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Is there any difference between conflunt kafka and apache kafka？
I want to know if there's any difference between apache kafka and the open sourced confluent kafka ?
Thanks,
Lei
wanglei2@geekplus.com.cn
Re: Is there any difference between conflunt kafka and apache kafka？
Posted by Blake Miller <bl...@gmail.com>.
I will chip in my 2c here as we use open source Kafka stuff in production,
and we use some of the Confluent and community additions.
Thus far we have not paid for anything other than cloud metal.
The Confluent team seems super legit to me. They are making a lot of useful
stuff freely available to the community. I think the Kafka they distribute
is just vanilla Apache Kafka. That is, they do not patch the broker code
just for "Confluent Kafka". They add things atop Kafka: the schema
registry, Kafka Connect, KSQL... and most interesting for our purposes, the
Kafka Streams java library (which is open source).
I would recommend using their stuff because:
1) there is no vendor lock-in that I can spot (you can go on using only the
free parts indefinitely)
2) these extra Confluent things are potentially quite useful
It might be a little more convenient, too. You would be in good company
running the confluent suite of kafka-related stuff.
On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 4:03 PM Mich Talebzadeh <mi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Sure we agree to differ.
>
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> accepting it.
>
> HTH,
>
> Dr Mich Talebzadeh
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> On Sat, 9 May 2020 at 16:14, Steven Miller <st...@idrathernotsay.com>
> wrote:
>
> > At the risk of starting a uh-huh-uhnt-uh battle, I would have to
> disagree.
> > There are seriously good people at Confluent, many of whom have been
> > pivotal to Kafka’s development. You can decide whether or not Confluent
> > makes sense for you for other reasons, but I wouldn’t go for a blanket
> no,
> > by any means.
> >
> > -Steve
> >
> > > On May 9, 2020, at 9:20 AM, Mich Talebzadeh <mich.talebzadeh@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I would say stick to Apache Kafka.
> > >
> > > These days every start-up sees some opportunities to grab a piece of
> > cake.
> > > Often ending up re-inventing the wheel to create an add-on that mimics
> > what
> > > already exists and charge license fees.
> > >
> > > One of the most pertinent exception is Apache HBase that has been
> around
> > > for 10 years. It is only supported as part of third-party suits of
> > products
> > > on Hadoop like Cloudera or Hortonworks. The great Apache community
> > supports
> > > it and I believe that is the reason it is so successful and widely
> used.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > Dr Mich Talebzadeh
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >> On Sat, 9 May 2020 at 09:46, wanglei2@geekplus.com.cn <
> > >> wanglei2@geekplus.com.cn> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I want to know if there's any difference between apache kafka and the
> > open
> > >> sourced confluent kafka ?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Lei
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> wanglei2@geekplus.com.cn
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>
Re: Is there any difference between conflunt kafka and apache kafka？
Posted by Mich Talebzadeh <mi...@gmail.com>.
Sure we agree to differ.
That is indeed a sign of civilised mind to entertain an idea without
accepting it.
HTH,
Dr Mich Talebzadeh
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On Sat, 9 May 2020 at 16:14, Steven Miller <st...@idrathernotsay.com> wrote:
> At the risk of starting a uh-huh-uhnt-uh battle, I would have to disagree.
> There are seriously good people at Confluent, many of whom have been
> pivotal to Kafka’s development. You can decide whether or not Confluent
> makes sense for you for other reasons, but I wouldn’t go for a blanket no,
> by any means.
>
> -Steve
>
> > On May 9, 2020, at 9:20 AM, Mich Talebzadeh <mi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would say stick to Apache Kafka.
> >
> > These days every start-up sees some opportunities to grab a piece of
> cake.
> > Often ending up re-inventing the wheel to create an add-on that mimics
> what
> > already exists and charge license fees.
> >
> > One of the most pertinent exception is Apache HBase that has been around
> > for 10 years. It is only supported as part of third-party suits of
> products
> > on Hadoop like Cloudera or Hortonworks. The great Apache community
> supports
> > it and I believe that is the reason it is so successful and widely used.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Dr Mich Talebzadeh
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >> On Sat, 9 May 2020 at 09:46, wanglei2@geekplus.com.cn <
> >> wanglei2@geekplus.com.cn> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I want to know if there's any difference between apache kafka and the
> open
> >> sourced confluent kafka ?
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Lei
> >>
> >>
> >> wanglei2@geekplus.com.cn
> >>
> >>
>
Re: Is there any difference between conflunt kafka and apache kafka？
Posted by "M. Manna" <ma...@gmail.com>.
I agree with Steve.
Also, it’s worth reading Jay’s PR last year regarding confluent community
licence.
Regards,
On Sat, 9 May 2020 at 16:14, Steven Miller <st...@idrathernotsay.com> wrote:
> At the risk of starting a uh-huh-uhnt-uh battle, I would have to disagree.
> There are seriously good people at Confluent, many of whom have been
> pivotal to Kafka’s development. You can decide whether or not Confluent
> makes sense for you for other reasons, but I wouldn’t go for a blanket no,
> by any means.
>
> -Steve
>
> > On May 9, 2020, at 9:20 AM, Mich Talebzadeh <mi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would say stick to Apache Kafka.
> >
> > These days every start-up sees some opportunities to grab a piece of
> cake.
> > Often ending up re-inventing the wheel to create an add-on that mimics
> what
> > already exists and charge license fees.
> >
> > One of the most pertinent exception is Apache HBase that has been around
> > for 10 years. It is only supported as part of third-party suits of
> products
> > on Hadoop like Cloudera or Hortonworks. The great Apache community
> supports
> > it and I believe that is the reason it is so successful and widely used.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Dr Mich Talebzadeh
> >
> >
> >
> > LinkedIn *
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >> On Sat, 9 May 2020 at 09:46, wanglei2@geekplus.com.cn <
> >> wanglei2@geekplus.com.cn> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I want to know if there's any difference between apache kafka and the
> open
> >> sourced confluent kafka ?
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Lei
> >>
> >>
> >> wanglei2@geekplus.com.cn
> >>
> >>
>
Re: Is there any difference between conflunt kafka and apache kafka？
Posted by Steven Miller <st...@idrathernotsay.com>.
At the risk of starting a uh-huh-uhnt-uh battle, I would have to disagree. There are seriously good people at Confluent, many of whom have been pivotal to Kafka’s development. You can decide whether or not Confluent makes sense for you for other reasons, but I wouldn’t go for a blanket no, by any means.
-Steve
> On May 9, 2020, at 9:20 AM, Mich Talebzadeh <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I would say stick to Apache Kafka.
>
> These days every start-up sees some opportunities to grab a piece of cake.
> Often ending up re-inventing the wheel to create an add-on that mimics what
> already exists and charge license fees.
>
> One of the most pertinent exception is Apache HBase that has been around
> for 10 years. It is only supported as part of third-party suits of products
> on Hadoop like Cloudera or Hortonworks. The great Apache community supports
> it and I believe that is the reason it is so successful and widely used.
>
> HTH
>
> Dr Mich Talebzadeh
>
>
>
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>> On Sat, 9 May 2020 at 09:46, wanglei2@geekplus.com.cn <
>> wanglei2@geekplus.com.cn> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I want to know if there's any difference between apache kafka and the open
>> sourced confluent kafka ?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lei
>>
>>
>> wanglei2@geekplus.com.cn
>>
>>
Re: Is there any difference between conflunt kafka and apache kafka？
Posted by Mich Talebzadeh <mi...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I would say stick to Apache Kafka.
These days every start-up sees some opportunities to grab a piece of cake.
Often ending up re-inventing the wheel to create an add-on that mimics what
already exists and charge license fees.
One of the most pertinent exception is Apache HBase that has been around
for 10 years. It is only supported as part of third-party suits of products
on Hadoop like Cloudera or Hortonworks. The great Apache community supports
it and I believe that is the reason it is so successful and widely used.
HTH
Dr Mich Talebzadeh
LinkedIn * https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=AAEAAAAWh2gBxianrbJd6zP6AcPCCdOABUrV8Pw
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On Sat, 9 May 2020 at 09:46, wanglei2@geekplus.com.cn <
wanglei2@geekplus.com.cn> wrote:
>
> I want to know if there's any difference between apache kafka and the open
> sourced confluent kafka ?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Lei
>
>
> wanglei2@geekplus.com.cn
>
>
Re: Is there any difference between conflunt kafka and apache kafka？
Posted by "M. Manna" <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hey LeiWang,
On Sat, 9 May 2020 at 09:46, wanglei2@geekplus.com.cn <
wanglei2@geekplus.com.cn> wrote:
>
> I want to know if there's any difference between apache kafka and the open
> sourced confluent kafka ?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Lei
If you visit confluent website, it’s pretty well summarised using 3
different licensing schemes (confluent community/apache/commercial).
I think that info will help you learn more.
Regards,
>
>
>
> wanglei2@geekplus.com.cn
>
>