Draft for Podling Report - Please Review and Improve

[Mirko Kämpf <mi...@gmail.com>]

Hello everybody,

in this email is the draft for the podling report for July.

Here is the draft in the Wiki:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#PodlingReports-July2023
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#PodlingReports-June2023>

After missing the report again in June, we still can make it in time for
this month.
Please provide us your feedback so that we can hand in the report tomorrow.

Many thanks.

Cheers,
Mirko




July 2023

*Training
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#training>*

The Training project aims to develop resources which can be used for
training purposes in various media formats, languages and for various
Apache and non-Apache target projects.

Training has been incubating since 2019-02-21.

In June, we started adjusting the project goals. Besides a pure focus on
content creation tools we have identified the need for two additional
aspects:
(1) For ASF processes some documentation exists, e.g.
https://community.apache.org/contributor-ladder, but the ASF member journey
is still a challenge for many new members, especially those with less
coding experience.
As a solution it has been suggested to provide training material for the
following problems:
* You've just graduated to a TLP. What are the challenges you will now face?
* New committer onboarding
* New PMC member onboarding
* New PMC Chair onboarding
* New board member onboarding

(2) Creation of some general recommendations/guidelines for:
 * managing/validation of training material contributions of arbitrary ASF
projects
has been propsed.

Initial discussion of the topics have been started.

*We expand our focus now on the following aspects:*

*We have to work on strategies to increase the** participation and the
visibility of the project and its goals.*

*Besides requests** for contributions from individual contributors** from
other Apache projects we want to show what the Apache Training project can
offer to those projects**.*

*We should build on the assumption that synergy and network effects can
help us to increase the community around training and skill management
topics.*


*Three most important unfinished issues to address before graduating:*
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#three-most-important-unfinished-issues-to-address-before-graduating>

   1. Improve the community participation (other Apache projects should
   actively be linked to this project, since they "have the content")
   2. *(Re)define the short-, mid-, and long-term goals of the project.*
   3. *Select an approach to handle non coding / non document related tasks
   (e.g., community related activities on events)*
   4. *Create a strategy how this projects contributes to or is supported
   by other Apache projects*
   5. Create a tutorial on how the tools provided by this project can be
   used to create own content
   6. Review current policies around contribution review and releases to
   find a pragmatic compromise

*Are there any issues that the IPMC or ASF Board need to be aware of?*
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#are-there-any-issues-that-the-ipmc-or-asf-board-need-to-be-aware-of>

The Training Project needs more contribution from other Apache projects,
hence a clear communication strategy for interlinking existing projects
with the Apache Training project is needed.

We need feedback from other Apache projects on the presentations and
trainings developed till now.



*In order to improve this collaboration we suggest to investigate the
status of other project’s documentation in a systematic approach,
especially with an eye on available training related material.*

*How has the community developed since the last report?*
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#how-has-the-community-developed-since-the-last-report>



*Activity has started to grow since the last report. We again failed to
provide the report on time, but this will change soon.Two persons joined
our conversation on the dev-list (Eric and Rich).*


*How has the project developed since the last report?*
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#how-has-the-project-developed-since-the-last-report>

An pro-active request for a content / tool donation has been placed - but
it was rejected. The person I asked has no longer access to the tool I had
in mind.

Creation of a ASF onboarding training module has been announced.

A tool for inspecting documentation in Github repositories (ASF projects)
which will lead towards automatic training related content extraction has
been started.

PR activity continuous on a low level since the last report.


*How would you assess the podling's maturity?*
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#how-would-you-assess-the-podlings-maturity>

There are currently some issues with this podling that we are working to
address, we believe that the issues are not yet critical and can be turned
around from within the community but want to make the board aware of this
early on.

   -  Initial setup oft he project’s structure: *Goals and strategy needs
   refinement.*
   -  Working towards first release: *What type of artefacts to release is
   not clear, due to unclear goals and strategy.*
   -  Community building: *The community exists of a very small number of
   people but is more or less invisible, as of today (April 2023).*
   -  Nearing graduation: *Currently, we are far away from graduation.*


*When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?*
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#when-were-the-last-committers-or-ppmc-members-elected>

November 2020


*Have your mentors been helpful and responsive?*
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#have-your-mentors-been-helpful-and-responsive>

Mentors have been responsive and helpful when reached out to.


*Is the PPMC managing the podling's brand / trademarks?*
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#is-the-ppmc-managing-the-podlings-brand--trademarks>

The name search process has not yet been started, as there is still time to
do that if and when graduation draws nearer.

The PPMC is actively monitoring usage of the Podlings current name on other
sites.

The Podling is not directly affiliating with any sponsors donating content
and presenting an independent image on the webpage.


*Signed-off-by:*
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#signed-off-by>

   -  (training) Craig Russell
   Comments:

   -  (training) Christofer Dutz
   Comments:

   -  (training) Justin Mclean
   Comments:

   -  (training) Lars Francke
   Comments:







-- 

Dr. rer. nat. Mirko Kämpf
Müchelner Str. 23
06259 Frankleben

Re: Draft for Podling Report - Please Review and Improve

[Eric Tessenow <er...@gmail.com>]

Hi Mirko,

I looks good to me.

Best,

Eric

On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 at 20:47, Mirko Kämpf <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everybody,
>
> in this email is the draft for the podling report for July.
>
> Here is the draft in the Wiki:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#PodlingReports-July2023
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#PodlingReports-June2023
> >
>
> After missing the report again in June, we still can make it in time for
> this month.
> Please provide us your feedback so that we can hand in the report tomorrow.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Cheers,
> Mirko
>
>
>
>
> July 2023
>
> *Training
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#training
> >*
>
> The Training project aims to develop resources which can be used for
> training purposes in various media formats, languages and for various
> Apache and non-Apache target projects.
>
> Training has been incubating since 2019-02-21.
>
> In June, we started adjusting the project goals. Besides a pure focus on
> content creation tools we have identified the need for two additional
> aspects:
> (1) For ASF processes some documentation exists, e.g.
> https://community.apache.org/contributor-ladder, but the ASF member
> journey
> is still a challenge for many new members, especially those with less
> coding experience.
> As a solution it has been suggested to provide training material for the
> following problems:
> * You've just graduated to a TLP. What are the challenges you will now
> face?
> * New committer onboarding
> * New PMC member onboarding
> * New PMC Chair onboarding
> * New board member onboarding
>
> (2) Creation of some general recommendations/guidelines for:
>  * managing/validation of training material contributions of arbitrary ASF
> projects
> has been propsed.
>
> Initial discussion of the topics have been started.
>
> *We expand our focus now on the following aspects:*
>
> *We have to work on strategies to increase the** participation and the
> visibility of the project and its goals.*
>
> *Besides requests** for contributions from individual contributors** from
> other Apache projects we want to show what the Apache Training project can
> offer to those projects**.*
>
> *We should build on the assumption that synergy and network effects can
> help us to increase the community around training and skill management
> topics.*
>
>
> *Three most important unfinished issues to address before graduating:*
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#three-most-important-unfinished-issues-to-address-before-graduating
> >
>
>    1. Improve the community participation (other Apache projects should
>    actively be linked to this project, since they "have the content")
>    2. *(Re)define the short-, mid-, and long-term goals of the project.*
>    3. *Select an approach to handle non coding / non document related tasks
>    (e.g., community related activities on events)*
>    4. *Create a strategy how this projects contributes to or is supported
>    by other Apache projects*
>    5. Create a tutorial on how the tools provided by this project can be
>    used to create own content
>    6. Review current policies around contribution review and releases to
>    find a pragmatic compromise
>
> *Are there any issues that the IPMC or ASF Board need to be aware of?*
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#are-there-any-issues-that-the-ipmc-or-asf-board-need-to-be-aware-of
> >
>
> The Training Project needs more contribution from other Apache projects,
> hence a clear communication strategy for interlinking existing projects
> with the Apache Training project is needed.
>
> We need feedback from other Apache projects on the presentations and
> trainings developed till now.
>
>
>
> *In order to improve this collaboration we suggest to investigate the
> status of other project’s documentation in a systematic approach,
> especially with an eye on available training related material.*
>
> *How has the community developed since the last report?*
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#how-has-the-community-developed-since-the-last-report
> >
>
>
>
> *Activity has started to grow since the last report. We again failed to
> provide the report on time, but this will change soon.Two persons joined
> our conversation on the dev-list (Eric and Rich).*
>
>
> *How has the project developed since the last report?*
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#how-has-the-project-developed-since-the-last-report
> >
>
> An pro-active request for a content / tool donation has been placed - but
> it was rejected. The person I asked has no longer access to the tool I had
> in mind.
>
> Creation of a ASF onboarding training module has been announced.
>
> A tool for inspecting documentation in Github repositories (ASF projects)
> which will lead towards automatic training related content extraction has
> been started.
>
> PR activity continuous on a low level since the last report.
>
>
> *How would you assess the podling's maturity?*
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#how-would-you-assess-the-podlings-maturity
> >
>
> There are currently some issues with this podling that we are working to
> address, we believe that the issues are not yet critical and can be turned
> around from within the community but want to make the board aware of this
> early on.
>
>    -  Initial setup oft he project’s structure: *Goals and strategy needs
>    refinement.*
>    -  Working towards first release: *What type of artefacts to release is
>    not clear, due to unclear goals and strategy.*
>    -  Community building: *The community exists of a very small number of
>    people but is more or less invisible, as of today (April 2023).*
>    -  Nearing graduation: *Currently, we are far away from graduation.*
>
>
> *When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?*
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#when-were-the-last-committers-or-ppmc-members-elected
> >
>
> November 2020
>
>
> *Have your mentors been helpful and responsive?*
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#have-your-mentors-been-helpful-and-responsive
> >
>
> Mentors have been responsive and helpful when reached out to.
>
>
> *Is the PPMC managing the podling's brand / trademarks?*
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#is-the-ppmc-managing-the-podlings-brand--trademarks
> >
>
> The name search process has not yet been started, as there is still time to
> do that if and when graduation draws nearer.
>
> The PPMC is actively monitoring usage of the Podlings current name on other
> sites.
>
> The Podling is not directly affiliating with any sponsors donating content
> and presenting an independent image on the webpage.
>
>
> *Signed-off-by:*
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#signed-off-by
> >
>
>    -  (training) Craig Russell
>    Comments:
>
>    -  (training) Christofer Dutz
>    Comments:
>
>    -  (training) Justin Mclean
>    Comments:
>
>    -  (training) Lars Francke
>    Comments:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Dr. rer. nat. Mirko Kämpf
> Müchelner Str. 23
> 06259 Frankleben
>


-- 
Eric Tessenow M.A.


Platz der Jugend 4

16227 Eberswalde


*phone:*    +49 0176 4072 9853

Re: Draft for Podling Report - Please Review and Improve

[Lars Francke <la...@gmail.com>]

Mirko,

thank you.
I just submitted the report.
Unfortunately, it needs to be in markdown and follow some annoying
rules. I've tried to convert it.
I hope that works for everyone.

I added my sign-off as well.

Cheers,
Lars

On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 8:47 PM Mirko Kämpf <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everybody,
>
> in this email is the draft for the podling report for July.
>
> Here is the draft in the Wiki:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#PodlingReports-July2023
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#PodlingReports-June2023>
>
> After missing the report again in June, we still can make it in time for
> this month.
> Please provide us your feedback so that we can hand in the report tomorrow.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Cheers,
> Mirko
>
>
>
>
> July 2023
>
> *Training
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#training>*
>
> The Training project aims to develop resources which can be used for
> training purposes in various media formats, languages and for various
> Apache and non-Apache target projects.
>
> Training has been incubating since 2019-02-21.
>
> In June, we started adjusting the project goals. Besides a pure focus on
> content creation tools we have identified the need for two additional
> aspects:
> (1) For ASF processes some documentation exists, e.g.
> https://community.apache.org/contributor-ladder, but the ASF member journey
> is still a challenge for many new members, especially those with less
> coding experience.
> As a solution it has been suggested to provide training material for the
> following problems:
> * You've just graduated to a TLP. What are the challenges you will now face?
> * New committer onboarding
> * New PMC member onboarding
> * New PMC Chair onboarding
> * New board member onboarding
>
> (2) Creation of some general recommendations/guidelines for:
>  * managing/validation of training material contributions of arbitrary ASF
> projects
> has been propsed.
>
> Initial discussion of the topics have been started.
>
> *We expand our focus now on the following aspects:*
>
> *We have to work on strategies to increase the** participation and the
> visibility of the project and its goals.*
>
> *Besides requests** for contributions from individual contributors** from
> other Apache projects we want to show what the Apache Training project can
> offer to those projects**.*
>
> *We should build on the assumption that synergy and network effects can
> help us to increase the community around training and skill management
> topics.*
>
>
> *Three most important unfinished issues to address before graduating:*
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#three-most-important-unfinished-issues-to-address-before-graduating>
>
>    1. Improve the community participation (other Apache projects should
>    actively be linked to this project, since they "have the content")
>    2. *(Re)define the short-, mid-, and long-term goals of the project.*
>    3. *Select an approach to handle non coding / non document related tasks
>    (e.g., community related activities on events)*
>    4. *Create a strategy how this projects contributes to or is supported
>    by other Apache projects*
>    5. Create a tutorial on how the tools provided by this project can be
>    used to create own content
>    6. Review current policies around contribution review and releases to
>    find a pragmatic compromise
>
> *Are there any issues that the IPMC or ASF Board need to be aware of?*
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#are-there-any-issues-that-the-ipmc-or-asf-board-need-to-be-aware-of>
>
> The Training Project needs more contribution from other Apache projects,
> hence a clear communication strategy for interlinking existing projects
> with the Apache Training project is needed.
>
> We need feedback from other Apache projects on the presentations and
> trainings developed till now.
>
>
>
> *In order to improve this collaboration we suggest to investigate the
> status of other project’s documentation in a systematic approach,
> especially with an eye on available training related material.*
>
> *How has the community developed since the last report?*
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#how-has-the-community-developed-since-the-last-report>
>
>
>
> *Activity has started to grow since the last report. We again failed to
> provide the report on time, but this will change soon.Two persons joined
> our conversation on the dev-list (Eric and Rich).*
>
>
> *How has the project developed since the last report?*
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#how-has-the-project-developed-since-the-last-report>
>
> An pro-active request for a content / tool donation has been placed - but
> it was rejected. The person I asked has no longer access to the tool I had
> in mind.
>
> Creation of a ASF onboarding training module has been announced.
>
> A tool for inspecting documentation in Github repositories (ASF projects)
> which will lead towards automatic training related content extraction has
> been started.
>
> PR activity continuous on a low level since the last report.
>
>
> *How would you assess the podling's maturity?*
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#how-would-you-assess-the-podlings-maturity>
>
> There are currently some issues with this podling that we are working to
> address, we believe that the issues are not yet critical and can be turned
> around from within the community but want to make the board aware of this
> early on.
>
>    -  Initial setup oft he project’s structure: *Goals and strategy needs
>    refinement.*
>    -  Working towards first release: *What type of artefacts to release is
>    not clear, due to unclear goals and strategy.*
>    -  Community building: *The community exists of a very small number of
>    people but is more or less invisible, as of today (April 2023).*
>    -  Nearing graduation: *Currently, we are far away from graduation.*
>
>
> *When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?*
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#when-were-the-last-committers-or-ppmc-members-elected>
>
> November 2020
>
>
> *Have your mentors been helpful and responsive?*
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#have-your-mentors-been-helpful-and-responsive>
>
> Mentors have been responsive and helpful when reached out to.
>
>
> *Is the PPMC managing the podling's brand / trademarks?*
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#is-the-ppmc-managing-the-podlings-brand--trademarks>
>
> The name search process has not yet been started, as there is still time to
> do that if and when graduation draws nearer.
>
> The PPMC is actively monitoring usage of the Podlings current name on other
> sites.
>
> The Podling is not directly affiliating with any sponsors donating content
> and presenting an independent image on the webpage.
>
>
> *Signed-off-by:*
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TRAINING/Podling+Reports#signed-off-by>
>
>    -  (training) Craig Russell
>    Comments:
>
>    -  (training) Christofer Dutz
>    Comments:
>
>    -  (training) Justin Mclean
>    Comments:
>
>    -  (training) Lars Francke
>    Comments:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Dr. rer. nat. Mirko Kämpf
> Müchelner Str. 23
> 06259 Frankleben