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[jira] Created: (GERONIMO-254) ServerInfo is too darned useful

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        Key: GERONIMO-254
    Summary: ServerInfo is too darned useful
       Type: Improvement

     Status: Open
   Priority: Minor

    Project: Apache Geronimo
 Components: 
             general
   Versions:
             1.0-M2

   Assignee: Dain Sundstrom
   Reporter: Jeremy Boynes

    Created: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 4:00 PM
    Updated: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 4:00 PM

Description:
This GBean provides information on the system including the location of the install which is used to find data files. The location itself is transient (so installs can be moved) but needs to be injected early.

It seems reasonable to have a reference to this available by magic, which means moving it to the kernel.


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[jira] Closed: (GERONIMO-254) ServerInfo is too darned useful

Posted by "Dain Sundstrom (JIRA)" <de...@geronimo.apache.org>.
     [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-254?page=all ]
     
Dain Sundstrom closed GERONIMO-254:
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    Resolution: Won't Fix

Coupling lots of services to ServerInfo is a sign of a poor configuration system.  We need to address the root case instead of masking it with an easier interface.

> ServerInfo is too darned useful
> -------------------------------
>
>          Key: GERONIMO-254
>          URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-254
>      Project: Geronimo
>         Type: Improvement
>   Components: general
>     Versions: 1.0-M2
>     Reporter: Jeremy Boynes
>     Assignee: Dain Sundstrom
>     Priority: Minor

>
> This GBean provides information on the system including the location of the install which is used to find data files. The location itself is transient (so installs can be moved) but needs to be injected early.
> It seems reasonable to have a reference to this available by magic, which means moving it to the kernel.

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[jira] Closed: (GERONIMO-254) ServerInfo is too darned useful

Posted by "Dain Sundstrom (JIRA)" <de...@geronimo.apache.org>.
     [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-254?page=all ]
     
Dain Sundstrom closed GERONIMO-254:
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    Resolution: Won't Fix

No need to keep this issue open.  When someone has a specific request they can open a new issue.

> ServerInfo is too darned useful
> -------------------------------
>
>          Key: GERONIMO-254
>          URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-254
>      Project: Geronimo
>         Type: Improvement
>   Components: general
>     Versions: 1.0-M2
>     Reporter: Jeremy Boynes
>     Assignee: Dain Sundstrom
>     Priority: Minor

>
> This GBean provides information on the system including the location of the install which is used to find data files. The location itself is transient (so installs can be moved) but needs to be injected early.
> It seems reasonable to have a reference to this available by magic, which means moving it to the kernel.

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Re: [jira] Reopened: (GERONIMO-254) ServerInfo is too darned useful

Posted by David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>.
what happens when ServerInfo (or the supplying gbean) stops?

Personally, I'd rather see an annoying poorly worded issue than no 
issue.

david jencks

On Jul 26, 2005, at 4:07 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:

> Please don't reopen.  I find these placeholder issues annoying and 
> misleading.  If you have specific improvement, then open a new issue.
>
> On this specific issue, Spring solved this by allowing an attribute 
> value to be the result of invoking another bean.  So we would have 
> something like this:
>
> <property name="someDir">
>     <invoke service="ServerInfo" method="resolve">
>         <parameter index="0">var/mydir</parameter>
>     </invoke>
> </property>
>
> BTW I just made up this xml, but you get the idea.  Instead of storing 
> a specific attribute value, you tell the container to invoke another 
> bean and use the return value for the property value.
>
> -dain
>
> On Jul 26, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Jeremy Boynes (JIRA) wrote:
>
>>      [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-254?page=all ]
>>
>> Jeremy Boynes reopened GERONIMO-254:
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Reopened as a placeholder until we know what the "root cause" is. 
>> Perhaps then we can close this and link to the issue that is fixing 
>> that problem.
>>
>>
>>> ServerInfo is too darned useful
>>> -------------------------------
>>>
>>>          Key: GERONIMO-254
>>>          URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-254
>>>      Project: Geronimo
>>>         Type: Improvement
>>>   Components: general
>>>     Versions: 1.0-M2
>>>     Reporter: Jeremy Boynes
>>>     Assignee: Dain Sundstrom
>>>     Priority: Minor
>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> This GBean provides information on the system including the location 
>>> of the install which is used to find data files. The location itself 
>>> is transient (so installs can be moved) but needs to be injected 
>>> early.
>>> It seems reasonable to have a reference to this available by magic, 
>>> which means moving it to the kernel.
>>>
>>
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Re: [jira] Reopened: (GERONIMO-254) ServerInfo is too darned useful

Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <li...@toolazydogs.com>.
This strikes me as a cool idea. 

Can we please get out of the habit of replying to Jira notifications 
and, instead, add comments to the Jira issues themselves or start new 
threads?


Regards,
Alan

On 7/26/2005 4:07 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:

> Please don't reopen.  I find these placeholder issues annoying and  
> misleading.  If you have specific improvement, then open a new issue.
>
> On this specific issue, Spring solved this by allowing an attribute  
> value to be the result of invoking another bean.  So we would have  
> something like this:
>
> <property name="someDir">
>     <invoke service="ServerInfo" method="resolve">
>         <parameter index="0">var/mydir</parameter>
>     </invoke>
> </property>
>
> BTW I just made up this xml, but you get the idea.  Instead of  
> storing a specific attribute value, you tell the container to invoke  
> another bean and use the return value for the property value.
>
> -dain
>
> On Jul 26, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Jeremy Boynes (JIRA) wrote:
>
>>      [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-254?page=all ]
>>
>> Jeremy Boynes reopened GERONIMO-254:
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Reopened as a placeholder until we know what the "root cause" is.  
>> Perhaps then we can close this and link to the issue that is fixing  
>> that problem.
>>
>>
>>> ServerInfo is too darned useful
>>> -------------------------------
>>>
>>>          Key: GERONIMO-254
>>>          URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-254
>>>      Project: Geronimo
>>>         Type: Improvement
>>>   Components: general
>>>     Versions: 1.0-M2
>>>     Reporter: Jeremy Boynes
>>>     Assignee: Dain Sundstrom
>>>     Priority: Minor
>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> This GBean provides information on the system including the  
>>> location of the install which is used to find data files. The  
>>> location itself is transient (so installs can be moved) but needs  
>>> to be injected early.
>>> It seems reasonable to have a reference to this available by  magic, 
>>> which means moving it to the kernel.
>>>
>>
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Re: [jira] Reopened: (GERONIMO-254) ServerInfo is too darned useful

Posted by Jeremy Boynes <jb...@apache.org>.
Dain Sundstrom wrote:
> Please don't reopen.  I find these placeholder issues annoying and  
> misleading.  If you have specific improvement, then open a new issue.

Please don't close issues without indicating why something is not 
relevant. Your message states that there is a different problem but you 
didn't identify what it is or link to an issue for it - that's how 
issues get missed.

Out of common courtesy, you might have asked for clarification first.

There is now a thread going on about it, so please reopen at least until 
we reach consensus.

--
Jeremy

Re: [jira] Reopened: (GERONIMO-254) ServerInfo is too darned useful

Posted by Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com>.
Please don't reopen.  I find these placeholder issues annoying and  
misleading.  If you have specific improvement, then open a new issue.

On this specific issue, Spring solved this by allowing an attribute  
value to be the result of invoking another bean.  So we would have  
something like this:

<property name="someDir">
     <invoke service="ServerInfo" method="resolve">
         <parameter index="0">var/mydir</parameter>
     </invoke>
</property>

BTW I just made up this xml, but you get the idea.  Instead of  
storing a specific attribute value, you tell the container to invoke  
another bean and use the return value for the property value.

-dain

On Jul 26, 2005, at 3:43 PM, Jeremy Boynes (JIRA) wrote:

>      [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-254?page=all ]
>
> Jeremy Boynes reopened GERONIMO-254:
> ------------------------------------
>
>
> Reopened as a placeholder until we know what the "root cause" is.  
> Perhaps then we can close this and link to the issue that is fixing  
> that problem.
>
>
>> ServerInfo is too darned useful
>> -------------------------------
>>
>>          Key: GERONIMO-254
>>          URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-254
>>      Project: Geronimo
>>         Type: Improvement
>>   Components: general
>>     Versions: 1.0-M2
>>     Reporter: Jeremy Boynes
>>     Assignee: Dain Sundstrom
>>     Priority: Minor
>>
>
>
>>
>> This GBean provides information on the system including the  
>> location of the install which is used to find data files. The  
>> location itself is transient (so installs can be moved) but needs  
>> to be injected early.
>> It seems reasonable to have a reference to this available by  
>> magic, which means moving it to the kernel.
>>
>
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[jira] Reopened: (GERONIMO-254) ServerInfo is too darned useful

Posted by "Jeremy Boynes (JIRA)" <de...@geronimo.apache.org>.
     [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-254?page=all ]
     
Jeremy Boynes reopened GERONIMO-254:
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Reopened as a placeholder until we know what the "root cause" is. Perhaps then we can close this and link to the issue that is fixing that problem.

> ServerInfo is too darned useful
> -------------------------------
>
>          Key: GERONIMO-254
>          URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-254
>      Project: Geronimo
>         Type: Improvement
>   Components: general
>     Versions: 1.0-M2
>     Reporter: Jeremy Boynes
>     Assignee: Dain Sundstrom
>     Priority: Minor

>
> This GBean provides information on the system including the location of the install which is used to find data files. The location itself is transient (so installs can be moved) but needs to be injected early.
> It seems reasonable to have a reference to this available by magic, which means moving it to the kernel.

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