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Next release?

Folks,

after we fixed the Oracle and the Mac OS X blockers are there any
other issues you feel that should be addressed before we can get to
the next release?

Anyway, should the next release be a beta or a release candidate? Even
though there have been additional patches, if there are no more major
open issues I would be +1 for a release candidate as 2.1 has been in
the release cycle for quite a while...

Oliver

P.S.: James would you be available for a next release soon, anyway?

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Re: Next release?

Posted by Oliver Zeigermann <ol...@gmail.com>.
OK I will start a vote on this...

Oliver


On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 23:32:29 -0800, James Mason <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> I can probably start putting something together this weekend. Target the
> release for the end of next week, let's say.
> 
> I'm torn between another beta and a release candidate. I'd really like
> to get 2.1 out before the end of the year, so I think I'd prefer the RC,
> but it really depends on the state of the open issues and I haven't been
> keeping up with those as close as I could be.
> 
> +1 for a release next week.
> +.5 for RC.
> 
> -James
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 2004-11-13 at 23:12 +0100, Oliver Zeigermann wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > after we fixed the Oracle and the Mac OS X blockers are there any
> > other issues you feel that should be addressed before we can get to
> > the next release?
> >
> > Anyway, should the next release be a beta or a release candidate? Even
> > though there have been additional patches, if there are no more major
> > open issues I would be +1 for a release candidate as 2.1 has been in
> > the release cycle for quite a while...
> >
> > Oliver
> >
> > P.S.: James would you be available for a next release soon, anyway?
> > 
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Re: Next release?

Posted by James Mason <ma...@apache.org>.
I can probably start putting something together this weekend. Target the
release for the end of next week, let's say.

I'm torn between another beta and a release candidate. I'd really like
to get 2.1 out before the end of the year, so I think I'd prefer the RC,
but it really depends on the state of the open issues and I haven't been
keeping up with those as close as I could be.

+1 for a release next week.
+.5 for RC.

-James

On Sat, 2004-11-13 at 23:12 +0100, Oliver Zeigermann wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> after we fixed the Oracle and the Mac OS X blockers are there any
> other issues you feel that should be addressed before we can get to
> the next release?
> 
> Anyway, should the next release be a beta or a release candidate? Even
> though there have been additional patches, if there are no more major
> open issues I would be +1 for a release candidate as 2.1 has been in
> the release cycle for quite a while...
> 
> Oliver
> 
> P.S.: James would you be available for a next release soon, anyway?
> 
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Re: Behavior of collection copies

Posted by Stefan Lützkendorf <lu...@apache.org>.
I agree, the depth-infinity delete is more understandable. And if we do 
a merge, we have to decide what to do with meta data and file content, 
because if I copy a file I expect that the properties are copied too.
So I think with the fix, I described, we have a better solution - close 
to the spec and more clear in behavior.

Stefan

Lisa Dusseault wrote:

> Not all servers do the depth-infinity delete during a copy, actually.  
> For better or for worse, Microsoft servers and I believe Xythos do a 
> merge of the contents when copying one folder over another.  I don't 
> think it would matter to those servers even if the spec were clearer, it 
> was a very conscious decision based on customer/user expectations.
> 
> Lisa
> 
> On Nov 16, 2004, at 5:52 AM, Stefan Lützkendorf wrote:
> 
>> Ok, seems I have found the problem.
>>
>> I fixed an copy issue some time ago.
>>
>> The following sequence
>>   mkcol /abc
>>   put   /abc/file1
>>   mkcol /def
>>   put   /def/file2
>>   copy  /abc -> /def
>>
>> leads to (before the fix)
>>   /abc
>>   /abc/file1
>>   /def
>>   /def/file1
>>   /def/file2
>>
>> that's wrong, I think, because if the target exists, it is to be 
>> deleted with Depth: infinity (see RFC2518, 8.8.4).
>> but if /def is deleted this way /def/file2 must disappear too
>>
>> So the correct result is
>>   /abc
>>   /abc/file1
>>   /def
>>   /def/file1.
>>
>> This is true for Binding too. But some of the Bind test cases rely on 
>> the older behavior, I will commit the changes to the testcases soon.
>>
>> With this functional, deltav and bind are running.
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>>
>> Stefan Lützkendorf wrote:
>>
>>> Currently some BIND testcases are failing (:-(. I'd like to fix this 
>>> before releasing again, but I'm currently not quite sure what the 
>>> problem is. I try ASAP.
>>> Stefan
>>> Oliver Zeigermann wrote:
>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>> after we fixed the Oracle and the Mac OS X blockers are there any
>>>> other issues you feel that should be addressed before we can get to
>>>> the next release?
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, should the next release be a beta or a release candidate? Even
>>>> though there have been additional patches, if there are no more major
>>>> open issues I would be +1 for a release candidate as 2.1 has been in
>>>> the release cycle for quite a while...
>>>>
>>>> Oliver
>>>>
>>>> P.S.: James would you be available for a next release soon, anyway?
>>>>
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>>
>> -- 
>> Stefan Lützkendorf  --  luetzkendorf@apache.org
>>
>>
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Behavior of collection copies

Posted by Lisa Dusseault <li...@osafoundation.org>.
Not all servers do the depth-infinity delete during a copy, actually.  
For better or for worse, Microsoft servers and I believe Xythos do a 
merge of the contents when copying one folder over another.  I don't 
think it would matter to those servers even if the spec were clearer, 
it was a very conscious decision based on customer/user expectations.

Lisa

On Nov 16, 2004, at 5:52 AM, Stefan Lützkendorf wrote:

> Ok, seems I have found the problem.
>
> I fixed an copy issue some time ago.
>
> The following sequence
>   mkcol /abc
>   put   /abc/file1
>   mkcol /def
>   put   /def/file2
>   copy  /abc -> /def
>
> leads to (before the fix)
>   /abc
>   /abc/file1
>   /def
>   /def/file1
>   /def/file2
>
> that's wrong, I think, because if the target exists, it is to be 
> deleted with Depth: infinity (see RFC2518, 8.8.4).
> but if /def is deleted this way /def/file2 must disappear too
>
> So the correct result is
>   /abc
>   /abc/file1
>   /def
>   /def/file1.
>
> This is true for Binding too. But some of the Bind test cases rely on 
> the older behavior, I will commit the changes to the testcases soon.
>
> With this functional, deltav and bind are running.
>
> Stefan
>
>
>
> Stefan Lützkendorf wrote:
>
>> Currently some BIND testcases are failing (:-(. I'd like to fix this 
>> before releasing again, but I'm currently not quite sure what the 
>> problem is. I try ASAP.
>> Stefan
>> Oliver Zeigermann wrote:
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> after we fixed the Oracle and the Mac OS X blockers are there any
>>> other issues you feel that should be addressed before we can get to
>>> the next release?
>>>
>>> Anyway, should the next release be a beta or a release candidate? 
>>> Even
>>> though there have been additional patches, if there are no more major
>>> open issues I would be +1 for a release candidate as 2.1 has been in
>>> the release cycle for quite a while...
>>>
>>> Oliver
>>>
>>> P.S.: James would you be available for a next release soon, anyway?
>>>
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>>>
>
> -- 
> Stefan Lützkendorf  --  luetzkendorf@apache.org
>
>
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Re: Next release?

Posted by Oliver Zeigermann <ol...@gmail.com>.
Great, I will commit Warwick's patch then and we will be ready for the
next release!  What will it be? Beta? RC?
Oliver


On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:52:33 +0100, Stefan Lützkendorf
<lu...@apache.org> wrote:
> Ok, seems I have found the problem.
> 
> I fixed an copy issue some time ago.
> 
> The following sequence
>    mkcol /abc
>    put   /abc/file1
>    mkcol /def
>    put   /def/file2
>    copy  /abc -> /def
> 
> leads to (before the fix)
>    /abc
>    /abc/file1
>    /def
>    /def/file1
>    /def/file2
> 
> that's wrong, I think, because if the target exists, it is to be deleted
> with Depth: infinity (see RFC2518, 8.8.4).
> but if /def is deleted this way /def/file2 must disappear too
> 
> So the correct result is
>    /abc
>    /abc/file1
>    /def
>    /def/file1.
> 
> This is true for Binding too. But some of the Bind test cases rely on
> the older behavior, I will commit the changes to the testcases soon.
> 
> With this functional, deltav and bind are running.
> 
> Stefan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Stefan Lützkendorf wrote:
> 
> > Currently some BIND testcases are failing (:-(. I'd like to fix this
> > before releasing again, but I'm currently not quite sure what the
> > problem is. I try ASAP.
> > Stefan
> >
> > Oliver Zeigermann wrote:
> >
> >> Folks,
> >>
> >> after we fixed the Oracle and the Mac OS X blockers are there any
> >> other issues you feel that should be addressed before we can get to
> >> the next release?
> >>
> >> Anyway, should the next release be a beta or a release candidate? Even
> >> though there have been additional patches, if there are no more major
> >> open issues I would be +1 for a release candidate as 2.1 has been in
> >> the release cycle for quite a while...
> >>
> >> Oliver
> >>
> >> P.S.: James would you be available for a next release soon, anyway?
> >>
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> 
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Re: Next release?

Posted by Stefan Lützkendorf <lu...@apache.org>.
Ok, seems I have found the problem.

I fixed an copy issue some time ago.

The following sequence
   mkcol /abc
   put   /abc/file1
   mkcol /def
   put   /def/file2
   copy  /abc -> /def

leads to (before the fix)
   /abc
   /abc/file1
   /def
   /def/file1
   /def/file2

that's wrong, I think, because if the target exists, it is to be deleted 
with Depth: infinity (see RFC2518, 8.8.4).
but if /def is deleted this way /def/file2 must disappear too

So the correct result is
   /abc
   /abc/file1
   /def
   /def/file1.

This is true for Binding too. But some of the Bind test cases rely on 
the older behavior, I will commit the changes to the testcases soon.

With this functional, deltav and bind are running.

Stefan



Stefan Lützkendorf wrote:

> Currently some BIND testcases are failing (:-(. I'd like to fix this 
> before releasing again, but I'm currently not quite sure what the 
> problem is. I try ASAP.
> Stefan
> 
> Oliver Zeigermann wrote:
> 
>> Folks,
>>
>> after we fixed the Oracle and the Mac OS X blockers are there any
>> other issues you feel that should be addressed before we can get to
>> the next release?
>>
>> Anyway, should the next release be a beta or a release candidate? Even
>> though there have been additional patches, if there are no more major
>> open issues I would be +1 for a release candidate as 2.1 has been in
>> the release cycle for quite a while...
>>
>> Oliver
>>
>> P.S.: James would you be available for a next release soon, anyway?
>>
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Re: Next release?

Posted by Oliver Zeigermann <ol...@gmail.com>.
OK, so we will wait for your fix and the one from Warwick. He will
need CVS karma before he can commit it, though. If this is critical I
will commit it for him...

Oliver


On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:11:28 +0100, Stefan Lützkendorf
<lu...@apache.org> wrote:
> Currently some BIND testcases are failing (:-(. I'd like to fix this
> before releasing again, but I'm currently not quite sure what the
> problem is. I try ASAP.
> Stefan
> 
> 
> 
> Oliver Zeigermann wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > after we fixed the Oracle and the Mac OS X blockers are there any
> > other issues you feel that should be addressed before we can get to
> > the next release?
> >
> > Anyway, should the next release be a beta or a release candidate? Even
> > though there have been additional patches, if there are no more major
> > open issues I would be +1 for a release candidate as 2.1 has been in
> > the release cycle for quite a while...
> >
> > Oliver
> >
> > P.S.: James would you be available for a next release soon, anyway?
> >
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> 
> -- 
> Stefan Lützkendorf  --  luetzkendorf@apache.org
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Next release?

Posted by Stefan Lützkendorf <lu...@apache.org>.
Currently some BIND testcases are failing (:-(. I'd like to fix this 
before releasing again, but I'm currently not quite sure what the 
problem is. I try ASAP.
Stefan

Oliver Zeigermann wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> after we fixed the Oracle and the Mac OS X blockers are there any
> other issues you feel that should be addressed before we can get to
> the next release?
> 
> Anyway, should the next release be a beta or a release candidate? Even
> though there have been additional patches, if there are no more major
> open issues I would be +1 for a release candidate as 2.1 has been in
> the release cycle for quite a while...
> 
> Oliver
> 
> P.S.: James would you be available for a next release soon, anyway?
> 
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