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Posted to dev@clerezza.apache.org by Oliver Strässer <ol...@getunik.com> on 2011/01/12 17:57:53 UTC
AW: Scala Page and Cookies
Hi tsuy
i tried your approach today.
I retrieve from the RequestProperties. getHttpHeaders method only a MultivaluedMap.
So I havn't access to the cookies.
Isn't the a way to access the javax.ws.rs.core.HttpHeaders object in ssp?
oli
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Tsuyoshi Ito [mailto:tsuy.ito@trialox.org]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 2010 18:08
An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Scala Page and Cookies
Hi Oli
There is the possibility to retrieve some of the header information
from requestProperties (an inner class in
org.apache.clerezza.platform.typerendering.Renderlet)
e.g. you can use requestProperties.getHttpHeaders in your ssp
But I haven't used it yet. So I am not sure if it is possible to set
or read cookies - also I am not sure if this task should be done in
ssp.
Cheers
Tsuy
2010/12/23 Oliver Strässer <ol...@getunik.com>:
> some ideas?
>
> Von: Oliver Strässer
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Dezember 2010 09:29
> An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Scala Page and Cookies
>
> Hi
>
> I need to write and read Cookies, while I render the scala server page.
> Is there a posibility to retrieve the request object and the response bject in scala?
>
> cheers
> oli
>
>
>
>
> --[cid:image001.png@01CBA1BA.ADAA76D0]<http://twitter.com/getunik>-[cid:image002.png@01CBA1BA.ADAA76D0]<http://www.facebook.com/pages/getunikcom/124320320041>----------------------------------------------
>
> --getunik ag-------------------------------------------
>
> oliver straesser oliver.straesser@getunik.com<ma...@getunik.com>
> hardturmstrasse 101 fon: +41 (0)44 388 55 88
> ch-8005 zuerich fax: +41 (0)44 388 55 89
>
> --aktuelles getunik projekt-------------------------
> Agieren Sie lokal! Geo Marketing für Ihre E-Mail Kampagne: www.geomarketing.com<http://www.geomarketing.com/>
>
> --best of swiss web awards 2009------------------
> Gold & Silber für Connect2Earth / Bronze für WWF UK
>
> we make the web a better place - www.getunik.com<http://www.getunik.com/>
>
>
>
>
> *****************************************************************
> P Bitte drucken Sie dieses E-Mail nur bei Bedarf aus. Die Umwelt dankt es Ihnen.
> *****************************************************************
>
>
--
--trialox ag--------------------------------------
Tsuyoshi Ito
Binzmuehlestrasse 14
CH-8050 Zürich
Tel. +41 44 635 75 77
URL: http://trialox.org
Re: Scala Page and Cookies
Posted by Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <re...@trialox.org>.
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Oliver Strässer <
oliver.straesser@getunik.com> wrote:
> Hi tsuy
>
> i tried your approach today.
> I retrieve from the RequestProperties. getHttpHeaders method only a
> MultivaluedMap.
> So I havn't access to the cookies.
>
> Isn't the a way to access the javax.ws.rs.core.HttpHeaders object in ssp?
>
I think it would be good to make this possible.
For setting cookies howver, I think the ssp is definitively the wrong
place, both conceptually (presentation layer) as well implementationally
(the entity body is produced after the headers). If in a weird occasion you
really think you need something similar you can still set cookies via
java-script.
Cheers,
Reto
>
>
> oli
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Tsuyoshi Ito [mailto:tsuy.ito@trialox.org]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 2010 18:08
> An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Scala Page and Cookies
>
> Hi Oli
>
> There is the possibility to retrieve some of the header information
> from requestProperties (an inner class in
> org.apache.clerezza.platform.typerendering.Renderlet)
>
> e.g. you can use requestProperties.getHttpHeaders in your ssp
>
> But I haven't used it yet. So I am not sure if it is possible to set
> or read cookies - also I am not sure if this task should be done in
> ssp.
>
> Cheers
> Tsuy
>
> 2010/12/23 Oliver Strässer <ol...@getunik.com>:
> > some ideas?
> >
> > Von: Oliver Strässer
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Dezember 2010 09:29
> > An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Betreff: Scala Page and Cookies
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I need to write and read Cookies, while I render the scala server page.
> > Is there a posibility to retrieve the request object and the response
> bject in scala?
> >
> > cheers
> > oli
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --[cid:image001.png@01CBA1BA.ADAA76D0]<http://twitter.com/getunik
> >-[cid:image002.png@01CBA1BA.ADAA76D0]<
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/getunikcom/124320320041
> >----------------------------------------------
> >
> > --getunik ag-------------------------------------------
> >
> > oliver straesser oliver.straesser@getunik.com<mailto:
> oliver.straesser@getunik.com>
> > hardturmstrasse 101 fon: +41 (0)44 388 55 88
> > ch-8005 zuerich fax: +41 (0)44 388 55 89
> >
> > --aktuelles getunik projekt-------------------------
> > Agieren Sie lokal! Geo Marketing für Ihre E-Mail Kampagne:
> www.geomarketing.com<http://www.geomarketing.com/>
> >
> > --best of swiss web awards 2009------------------
> > Gold & Silber für Connect2Earth / Bronze für WWF UK
> >
> > we make the web a better place - www.getunik.com<http://www.getunik.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *****************************************************************
> > P Bitte drucken Sie dieses E-Mail nur bei Bedarf aus. Die Umwelt dankt es
> Ihnen.
> > *****************************************************************
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> --trialox ag--------------------------------------
>
> Tsuyoshi Ito
> Binzmuehlestrasse 14
> CH-8050 Zürich
> Tel. +41 44 635 75 77
> URL: http://trialox.org
>
Re: Scala Page and Cookies
Posted by Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <re...@trialox.org>.
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Oliver Strässer <
oliver.straesser@getunik.com> wrote:
> nobody an idea?
> i need the cookies to prefille my form, after I validate the form
> serverside.
>
>
> perhaps it's an architecture question of my application or a generall
> question.
>
> I'd like to save "session"-like data on a specific place, which is conform
> with the rest approach.
> so I don't want so safe the form data in a user graph.
>
>
> so the question is:
> how you build systems like
>
>
- a shop basket? (not logged in)
>
I
> - validate forms and prefille the form (not logged in)
> - collect data over a few sites (a process with a few steps) (not logged
> in)
> - create a questionnaire or a quiz over a few sites (not logged in)
>
>
> how you save and retrieve the data in a secure way and in a rest conform
> way?
>
>
>
> cheers
> oli
>
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Oliver Strässer
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Januar 2011 17:58
> An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: AW: Scala Page and Cookies
>
> Hi tsuy
>
> i tried your approach today.
> I retrieve from the RequestProperties. getHttpHeaders method only a
> MultivaluedMap.
> So I havn't access to the cookies.
>
> Isn't the a way to access the javax.ws.rs.core.HttpHeaders object in ssp?
>
>
> oli
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Tsuyoshi Ito [mailto:tsuy.ito@trialox.org]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 2010 18:08
> An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Scala Page and Cookies
>
> Hi Oli
>
> There is the possibility to retrieve some of the header information
> from requestProperties (an inner class in
> org.apache.clerezza.platform.typerendering.Renderlet)
>
> e.g. you can use requestProperties.getHttpHeaders in your ssp
>
> But I haven't used it yet. So I am not sure if it is possible to set
> or read cookies - also I am not sure if this task should be done in
> ssp.
>
> Cheers
> Tsuy
>
> 2010/12/23 Oliver Strässer <ol...@getunik.com>:
> > some ideas?
> >
> > Von: Oliver Strässer
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Dezember 2010 09:29
> > An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Betreff: Scala Page and Cookies
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I need to write and read Cookies, while I render the scala server page.
> > Is there a posibility to retrieve the request object and the response
> bject in scala?
> >
> > cheers
> > oli
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --[cid:image001.png@01CBA1BA.ADAA76D0]<http://twitter.com/getunik
> >-[cid:image002.png@01CBA1BA.ADAA76D0]<
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/getunikcom/124320320041
> >----------------------------------------------
> >
> > --getunik ag-------------------------------------------
> >
> > oliver straesser oliver.straesser@getunik.com<mailto:
> oliver.straesser@getunik.com>
> > hardturmstrasse 101 fon: +41 (0)44 388 55 88
> > ch-8005 zuerich fax: +41 (0)44 388 55 89
> >
> > --aktuelles getunik projekt-------------------------
> > Agieren Sie lokal! Geo Marketing für Ihre E-Mail Kampagne:
> www.geomarketing.com<http://www.geomarketing.com/>
> >
> > --best of swiss web awards 2009------------------
> > Gold & Silber für Connect2Earth / Bronze für WWF UK
> >
> > we make the web a better place - www.getunik.com<http://www.getunik.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *****************************************************************
> > P Bitte drucken Sie dieses E-Mail nur bei Bedarf aus. Die Umwelt dankt es
> Ihnen.
> > *****************************************************************
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> --trialox ag--------------------------------------
>
> Tsuyoshi Ito
> Binzmuehlestrasse 14
> CH-8050 Zürich
> Tel. +41 44 635 75 77
> URL: http://trialox.org
>
AW: Scala Page and Cookies
Posted by Oliver Strässer <ol...@getunik.com>.
yeah, correct this one
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: reto@trialox.org [mailto:reto@trialox.org] Im Auftrag von Reto Bachmann-Gmuer
Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Januar 2011 12:56
An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Scala Page and Cookies
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Oliver Strässer <
oliver.straesser@getunik.com> wrote:
> i see your points.
>
> you aske about the connection between cookies and validation. I think about
> using the cookies only as place to store data in a redirect (of the
> validation service).
>
>
> to give more flexibility to the developers it would be cool, that the
> initial request (httpservletrequest) is available in every ssp (like the
> uriInfo object). so I could read the cookies in every ssp template too and
> many more informaiton (acceptlanguages for example).
>
> for me it isn't possible to extend the typehandler (I'm on a cms-widget of
> trialox cms).
>
>
> conclusion:
>
> what you think about extending the the available objects in the ssp, with
> the httpservletrequest object?
>
> httpservletrequest is not possible as the clerezza-jaxrs implementation is
not servlet based, what we could make available is
javax.ws.rs.core.HttpHeaders
reto
>
>
> cheers
> oli
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: reto@trialox.org [mailto:reto@trialox.org] Im Auftrag von Reto
> Bachmann-Gmuer
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Januar 2011 11:16
> An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Scala Page and Cookies
>
> before I activated some keyboard shortcut I didn't know about...
>
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Oliver Strässer <
> oliver.straesser@getunik.com> wrote:
>
> > nobody an idea?
> > i need the cookies to prefille my form, after I validate the form
> > serverside.
> >
> >
> > perhaps it's an architecture question of my application or a generall
> > question.
> >
> > I'd like to save "session"-like data on a specific place, which is
> conform
> > with the rest approach.
> > so I don't want so safe the form data in a user graph.
> >
> >
> > so the question is:
> > how you build systems like
> >
> > - a shop basket? (not logged in)
> >
> I see the following options:
> - Client-side: You never actually change page, in the browser an ajax
> application let you navigate through the shop but you never actually leave
> the page with this application, with this you can keep variables in js
> while
> retrieving new content with background-requests
> - Cookies: If the user is not logged in you cannot associate the data to
> the
> context-node (via UserContextProvider) but you can still read and set the
> cookie in your root resources or typehandlers and add the contents of the
> shopping basket to the returned resource
>
>
> > - validate forms and prefille the form (not logged in)
> >
> - I don't see the connection between cookies and validation, validation is
> ideally done both client-side and server-side.
> - As for preventing the user from repeatedly entering the phone-number in
> multiple forms asking for it, I see that reading cookies from ssp might be
> a
> more straight-forward way than adding the infromation to the
> response-resource. Alternatively this values could be read from cookies
> using javascript.
>
>
> > - collect data over a few sites (a process with a few steps) (not logged
> > in)
> >
> - Cookies can be used but there's no need to set or read them in the ssp.
> Alternatively the data entered in previous steps cen be contained as hidden
> form fields in the current page
>
>
>
> > - create a questionnaire or a quiz over a few sites (not logged in)
> >
> - Same as above
>
> how you save and retrieve the data in a secure way and in a rest conform
> > way?
> >
> as long as you don't create a session on the server, but have the client
> deal with data (either using cookies, hidden fields of javascript) you're
> on
> the RESTfull side.
>
>
> Cheers,
> reto
>
> >
> >
> >
> > cheers
> > oli
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Oliver Strässer
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Januar 2011 17:58
> > An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Betreff: AW: Scala Page and Cookies
> >
> > Hi tsuy
> >
> > i tried your approach today.
> > I retrieve from the RequestProperties. getHttpHeaders method only a
> > MultivaluedMap.
> > So I havn't access to the cookies.
> >
> > Isn't the a way to access the javax.ws.rs.core.HttpHeaders object in ssp?
> >
> >
> > oli
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Tsuyoshi Ito [mailto:tsuy.ito@trialox.org]
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 2010 18:08
> > An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Betreff: Re: Scala Page and Cookies
> >
> > Hi Oli
> >
> > There is the possibility to retrieve some of the header information
> > from requestProperties (an inner class in
> > org.apache.clerezza.platform.typerendering.Renderlet)
> >
> > e.g. you can use requestProperties.getHttpHeaders in your ssp
> >
> > But I haven't used it yet. So I am not sure if it is possible to set
> > or read cookies - also I am not sure if this task should be done in
> > ssp.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Tsuy
> >
> > 2010/12/23 Oliver Strässer <ol...@getunik.com>:
> > > some ideas?
> > >
> > > Von: Oliver Strässer
> > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Dezember 2010 09:29
> > > An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > > Betreff: Scala Page and Cookies
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I need to write and read Cookies, while I render the scala server
> page.
> > > Is there a posibility to retrieve the request object and the response
> > bject in scala?
> > >
> > > cheers
> > > oli
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --[cid:image001.png@01CBA1BA.ADAA76D0]<http://twitter.com/getunik
> > >-[cid:image002.png@01CBA1BA.ADAA76D0]<
> > http://www.facebook.com/pages/getunikcom/124320320041
> > >----------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > --getunik ag-------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > oliver straesser oliver.straesser@getunik.com<mailto:
> > oliver.straesser@getunik.com>
> > > hardturmstrasse 101 fon: +41 (0)44 388 55 88
> > > ch-8005 zuerich fax: +41 (0)44 388 55 89
> > >
> > > --aktuelles getunik projekt-------------------------
> > > Agieren Sie lokal! Geo Marketing für Ihre E-Mail Kampagne:
> > www.geomarketing.com<http://www.geomarketing.com/>
> > >
> > > --best of swiss web awards 2009------------------
> > > Gold & Silber für Connect2Earth / Bronze für WWF UK
> > >
> > > we make the web a better place - www.getunik.com<
> http://www.getunik.com/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *****************************************************************
> > > P Bitte drucken Sie dieses E-Mail nur bei Bedarf aus. Die Umwelt dankt
> es
> > Ihnen.
> > > *****************************************************************
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > --trialox ag--------------------------------------
> >
> > Tsuyoshi Ito
> > Binzmuehlestrasse 14
> > CH-8050 Zürich
> > Tel. +41 44 635 75 77
> > URL: http://trialox.org
> >
>
Re: Scala Page and Cookies
Posted by Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <re...@trialox.org>.
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Oliver Strässer <
oliver.straesser@getunik.com> wrote:
> i see your points.
>
> you aske about the connection between cookies and validation. I think about
> using the cookies only as place to store data in a redirect (of the
> validation service).
>
>
> to give more flexibility to the developers it would be cool, that the
> initial request (httpservletrequest) is available in every ssp (like the
> uriInfo object). so I could read the cookies in every ssp template too and
> many more informaiton (acceptlanguages for example).
>
> for me it isn't possible to extend the typehandler (I'm on a cms-widget of
> trialox cms).
>
>
> conclusion:
>
> what you think about extending the the available objects in the ssp, with
> the httpservletrequest object?
>
> httpservletrequest is not possible as the clerezza-jaxrs implementation is
not servlet based, what we could make available is
javax.ws.rs.core.HttpHeaders
reto
>
>
> cheers
> oli
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: reto@trialox.org [mailto:reto@trialox.org] Im Auftrag von Reto
> Bachmann-Gmuer
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Januar 2011 11:16
> An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Scala Page and Cookies
>
> before I activated some keyboard shortcut I didn't know about...
>
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Oliver Strässer <
> oliver.straesser@getunik.com> wrote:
>
> > nobody an idea?
> > i need the cookies to prefille my form, after I validate the form
> > serverside.
> >
> >
> > perhaps it's an architecture question of my application or a generall
> > question.
> >
> > I'd like to save "session"-like data on a specific place, which is
> conform
> > with the rest approach.
> > so I don't want so safe the form data in a user graph.
> >
> >
> > so the question is:
> > how you build systems like
> >
> > - a shop basket? (not logged in)
> >
> I see the following options:
> - Client-side: You never actually change page, in the browser an ajax
> application let you navigate through the shop but you never actually leave
> the page with this application, with this you can keep variables in js
> while
> retrieving new content with background-requests
> - Cookies: If the user is not logged in you cannot associate the data to
> the
> context-node (via UserContextProvider) but you can still read and set the
> cookie in your root resources or typehandlers and add the contents of the
> shopping basket to the returned resource
>
>
> > - validate forms and prefille the form (not logged in)
> >
> - I don't see the connection between cookies and validation, validation is
> ideally done both client-side and server-side.
> - As for preventing the user from repeatedly entering the phone-number in
> multiple forms asking for it, I see that reading cookies from ssp might be
> a
> more straight-forward way than adding the infromation to the
> response-resource. Alternatively this values could be read from cookies
> using javascript.
>
>
> > - collect data over a few sites (a process with a few steps) (not logged
> > in)
> >
> - Cookies can be used but there's no need to set or read them in the ssp.
> Alternatively the data entered in previous steps cen be contained as hidden
> form fields in the current page
>
>
>
> > - create a questionnaire or a quiz over a few sites (not logged in)
> >
> - Same as above
>
> how you save and retrieve the data in a secure way and in a rest conform
> > way?
> >
> as long as you don't create a session on the server, but have the client
> deal with data (either using cookies, hidden fields of javascript) you're
> on
> the RESTfull side.
>
>
> Cheers,
> reto
>
> >
> >
> >
> > cheers
> > oli
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Oliver Strässer
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Januar 2011 17:58
> > An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Betreff: AW: Scala Page and Cookies
> >
> > Hi tsuy
> >
> > i tried your approach today.
> > I retrieve from the RequestProperties. getHttpHeaders method only a
> > MultivaluedMap.
> > So I havn't access to the cookies.
> >
> > Isn't the a way to access the javax.ws.rs.core.HttpHeaders object in ssp?
> >
> >
> > oli
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Tsuyoshi Ito [mailto:tsuy.ito@trialox.org]
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 2010 18:08
> > An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Betreff: Re: Scala Page and Cookies
> >
> > Hi Oli
> >
> > There is the possibility to retrieve some of the header information
> > from requestProperties (an inner class in
> > org.apache.clerezza.platform.typerendering.Renderlet)
> >
> > e.g. you can use requestProperties.getHttpHeaders in your ssp
> >
> > But I haven't used it yet. So I am not sure if it is possible to set
> > or read cookies - also I am not sure if this task should be done in
> > ssp.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Tsuy
> >
> > 2010/12/23 Oliver Strässer <ol...@getunik.com>:
> > > some ideas?
> > >
> > > Von: Oliver Strässer
> > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Dezember 2010 09:29
> > > An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > > Betreff: Scala Page and Cookies
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I need to write and read Cookies, while I render the scala server
> page.
> > > Is there a posibility to retrieve the request object and the response
> > bject in scala?
> > >
> > > cheers
> > > oli
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --[cid:image001.png@01CBA1BA.ADAA76D0]<http://twitter.com/getunik
> > >-[cid:image002.png@01CBA1BA.ADAA76D0]<
> > http://www.facebook.com/pages/getunikcom/124320320041
> > >----------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > --getunik ag-------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > oliver straesser oliver.straesser@getunik.com<mailto:
> > oliver.straesser@getunik.com>
> > > hardturmstrasse 101 fon: +41 (0)44 388 55 88
> > > ch-8005 zuerich fax: +41 (0)44 388 55 89
> > >
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>
AW: Scala Page and Cookies
Posted by Oliver Strässer <ol...@getunik.com>.
i see your points.
you aske about the connection between cookies and validation. I think about using the cookies only as place to store data in a redirect (of the validation service).
to give more flexibility to the developers it would be cool, that the initial request (httpservletrequest) is available in every ssp (like the uriInfo object). so I could read the cookies in every ssp template too and many more informaiton (acceptlanguages for example).
for me it isn't possible to extend the typehandler (I'm on a cms-widget of trialox cms).
conclusion:
what you think about extending the the available objects in the ssp, with the httpservletrequest object?
cheers
oli
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: reto@trialox.org [mailto:reto@trialox.org] Im Auftrag von Reto Bachmann-Gmuer
Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Januar 2011 11:16
An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Scala Page and Cookies
before I activated some keyboard shortcut I didn't know about...
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Oliver Strässer <
oliver.straesser@getunik.com> wrote:
> nobody an idea?
> i need the cookies to prefille my form, after I validate the form
> serverside.
>
>
> perhaps it's an architecture question of my application or a generall
> question.
>
> I'd like to save "session"-like data on a specific place, which is conform
> with the rest approach.
> so I don't want so safe the form data in a user graph.
>
>
> so the question is:
> how you build systems like
>
> - a shop basket? (not logged in)
>
I see the following options:
- Client-side: You never actually change page, in the browser an ajax
application let you navigate through the shop but you never actually leave
the page with this application, with this you can keep variables in js while
retrieving new content with background-requests
- Cookies: If the user is not logged in you cannot associate the data to the
context-node (via UserContextProvider) but you can still read and set the
cookie in your root resources or typehandlers and add the contents of the
shopping basket to the returned resource
> - validate forms and prefille the form (not logged in)
>
- I don't see the connection between cookies and validation, validation is
ideally done both client-side and server-side.
- As for preventing the user from repeatedly entering the phone-number in
multiple forms asking for it, I see that reading cookies from ssp might be a
more straight-forward way than adding the infromation to the
response-resource. Alternatively this values could be read from cookies
using javascript.
> - collect data over a few sites (a process with a few steps) (not logged
> in)
>
- Cookies can be used but there's no need to set or read them in the ssp.
Alternatively the data entered in previous steps cen be contained as hidden
form fields in the current page
> - create a questionnaire or a quiz over a few sites (not logged in)
>
- Same as above
how you save and retrieve the data in a secure way and in a rest conform
> way?
>
as long as you don't create a session on the server, but have the client
deal with data (either using cookies, hidden fields of javascript) you're on
the RESTfull side.
Cheers,
reto
>
>
>
> cheers
> oli
>
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Oliver Strässer
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Januar 2011 17:58
> An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: AW: Scala Page and Cookies
>
> Hi tsuy
>
> i tried your approach today.
> I retrieve from the RequestProperties. getHttpHeaders method only a
> MultivaluedMap.
> So I havn't access to the cookies.
>
> Isn't the a way to access the javax.ws.rs.core.HttpHeaders object in ssp?
>
>
> oli
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Tsuyoshi Ito [mailto:tsuy.ito@trialox.org]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 2010 18:08
> An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Scala Page and Cookies
>
> Hi Oli
>
> There is the possibility to retrieve some of the header information
> from requestProperties (an inner class in
> org.apache.clerezza.platform.typerendering.Renderlet)
>
> e.g. you can use requestProperties.getHttpHeaders in your ssp
>
> But I haven't used it yet. So I am not sure if it is possible to set
> or read cookies - also I am not sure if this task should be done in
> ssp.
>
> Cheers
> Tsuy
>
> 2010/12/23 Oliver Strässer <ol...@getunik.com>:
> > some ideas?
> >
> > Von: Oliver Strässer
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Dezember 2010 09:29
> > An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Betreff: Scala Page and Cookies
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I need to write and read Cookies, while I render the scala server page.
> > Is there a posibility to retrieve the request object and the response
> bject in scala?
> >
> > cheers
> > oli
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --[cid:image001.png@01CBA1BA.ADAA76D0]<http://twitter.com/getunik
> >-[cid:image002.png@01CBA1BA.ADAA76D0]<
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/getunikcom/124320320041
> >----------------------------------------------
> >
> > --getunik ag-------------------------------------------
> >
> > oliver straesser oliver.straesser@getunik.com<mailto:
> oliver.straesser@getunik.com>
> > hardturmstrasse 101 fon: +41 (0)44 388 55 88
> > ch-8005 zuerich fax: +41 (0)44 388 55 89
> >
> > --aktuelles getunik projekt-------------------------
> > Agieren Sie lokal! Geo Marketing für Ihre E-Mail Kampagne:
> www.geomarketing.com<http://www.geomarketing.com/>
> >
> > --best of swiss web awards 2009------------------
> > Gold & Silber für Connect2Earth / Bronze für WWF UK
> >
> > we make the web a better place - www.getunik.com<http://www.getunik.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *****************************************************************
> > P Bitte drucken Sie dieses E-Mail nur bei Bedarf aus. Die Umwelt dankt es
> Ihnen.
> > *****************************************************************
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> --trialox ag--------------------------------------
>
> Tsuyoshi Ito
> Binzmuehlestrasse 14
> CH-8050 Zürich
> Tel. +41 44 635 75 77
> URL: http://trialox.org
>
Re: Scala Page and Cookies
Posted by Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <re...@trialox.org>.
before I activated some keyboard shortcut I didn't know about...
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Oliver Strässer <
oliver.straesser@getunik.com> wrote:
> nobody an idea?
> i need the cookies to prefille my form, after I validate the form
> serverside.
>
>
> perhaps it's an architecture question of my application or a generall
> question.
>
> I'd like to save "session"-like data on a specific place, which is conform
> with the rest approach.
> so I don't want so safe the form data in a user graph.
>
>
> so the question is:
> how you build systems like
>
> - a shop basket? (not logged in)
>
I see the following options:
- Client-side: You never actually change page, in the browser an ajax
application let you navigate through the shop but you never actually leave
the page with this application, with this you can keep variables in js while
retrieving new content with background-requests
- Cookies: If the user is not logged in you cannot associate the data to the
context-node (via UserContextProvider) but you can still read and set the
cookie in your root resources or typehandlers and add the contents of the
shopping basket to the returned resource
> - validate forms and prefille the form (not logged in)
>
- I don't see the connection between cookies and validation, validation is
ideally done both client-side and server-side.
- As for preventing the user from repeatedly entering the phone-number in
multiple forms asking for it, I see that reading cookies from ssp might be a
more straight-forward way than adding the infromation to the
response-resource. Alternatively this values could be read from cookies
using javascript.
> - collect data over a few sites (a process with a few steps) (not logged
> in)
>
- Cookies can be used but there's no need to set or read them in the ssp.
Alternatively the data entered in previous steps cen be contained as hidden
form fields in the current page
> - create a questionnaire or a quiz over a few sites (not logged in)
>
- Same as above
how you save and retrieve the data in a secure way and in a rest conform
> way?
>
as long as you don't create a session on the server, but have the client
deal with data (either using cookies, hidden fields of javascript) you're on
the RESTfull side.
Cheers,
reto
>
>
>
> cheers
> oli
>
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Oliver Strässer
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Januar 2011 17:58
> An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: AW: Scala Page and Cookies
>
> Hi tsuy
>
> i tried your approach today.
> I retrieve from the RequestProperties. getHttpHeaders method only a
> MultivaluedMap.
> So I havn't access to the cookies.
>
> Isn't the a way to access the javax.ws.rs.core.HttpHeaders object in ssp?
>
>
> oli
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Tsuyoshi Ito [mailto:tsuy.ito@trialox.org]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 2010 18:08
> An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Scala Page and Cookies
>
> Hi Oli
>
> There is the possibility to retrieve some of the header information
> from requestProperties (an inner class in
> org.apache.clerezza.platform.typerendering.Renderlet)
>
> e.g. you can use requestProperties.getHttpHeaders in your ssp
>
> But I haven't used it yet. So I am not sure if it is possible to set
> or read cookies - also I am not sure if this task should be done in
> ssp.
>
> Cheers
> Tsuy
>
> 2010/12/23 Oliver Strässer <ol...@getunik.com>:
> > some ideas?
> >
> > Von: Oliver Strässer
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Dezember 2010 09:29
> > An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Betreff: Scala Page and Cookies
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I need to write and read Cookies, while I render the scala server page.
> > Is there a posibility to retrieve the request object and the response
> bject in scala?
> >
> > cheers
> > oli
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --[cid:image001.png@01CBA1BA.ADAA76D0]<http://twitter.com/getunik
> >-[cid:image002.png@01CBA1BA.ADAA76D0]<
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/getunikcom/124320320041
> >----------------------------------------------
> >
> > --getunik ag-------------------------------------------
> >
> > oliver straesser oliver.straesser@getunik.com<mailto:
> oliver.straesser@getunik.com>
> > hardturmstrasse 101 fon: +41 (0)44 388 55 88
> > ch-8005 zuerich fax: +41 (0)44 388 55 89
> >
> > --aktuelles getunik projekt-------------------------
> > Agieren Sie lokal! Geo Marketing für Ihre E-Mail Kampagne:
> www.geomarketing.com<http://www.geomarketing.com/>
> >
> > --best of swiss web awards 2009------------------
> > Gold & Silber für Connect2Earth / Bronze für WWF UK
> >
> > we make the web a better place - www.getunik.com<http://www.getunik.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *****************************************************************
> > P Bitte drucken Sie dieses E-Mail nur bei Bedarf aus. Die Umwelt dankt es
> Ihnen.
> > *****************************************************************
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> --trialox ag--------------------------------------
>
> Tsuyoshi Ito
> Binzmuehlestrasse 14
> CH-8050 Zürich
> Tel. +41 44 635 75 77
> URL: http://trialox.org
>
AW: Scala Page and Cookies
Posted by Oliver Strässer <ol...@getunik.com>.
nobody an idea?
i need the cookies to prefille my form, after I validate the form serverside.
perhaps it's an architecture question of my application or a generall question.
I'd like to save "session"-like data on a specific place, which is conform with the rest approach.
so I don't want so safe the form data in a user graph.
so the question is:
how you build systems like
- a shop basket? (not logged in)
- validate forms and prefille the form (not logged in)
- collect data over a few sites (a process with a few steps) (not logged in)
- create a questionnaire or a quiz over a few sites (not logged in)
how you save and retrieve the data in a secure way and in a rest conform way?
cheers
oli
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Oliver Strässer
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Januar 2011 17:58
An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: AW: Scala Page and Cookies
Hi tsuy
i tried your approach today.
I retrieve from the RequestProperties. getHttpHeaders method only a MultivaluedMap.
So I havn't access to the cookies.
Isn't the a way to access the javax.ws.rs.core.HttpHeaders object in ssp?
oli
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Tsuyoshi Ito [mailto:tsuy.ito@trialox.org]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Dezember 2010 18:08
An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Scala Page and Cookies
Hi Oli
There is the possibility to retrieve some of the header information
from requestProperties (an inner class in
org.apache.clerezza.platform.typerendering.Renderlet)
e.g. you can use requestProperties.getHttpHeaders in your ssp
But I haven't used it yet. So I am not sure if it is possible to set
or read cookies - also I am not sure if this task should be done in
ssp.
Cheers
Tsuy
2010/12/23 Oliver Strässer <ol...@getunik.com>:
> some ideas?
>
> Von: Oliver Strässer
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Dezember 2010 09:29
> An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Scala Page and Cookies
>
> Hi
>
> I need to write and read Cookies, while I render the scala server page.
> Is there a posibility to retrieve the request object and the response bject in scala?
>
> cheers
> oli
>
>
>
>
> --[cid:image001.png@01CBA1BA.ADAA76D0]<http://twitter.com/getunik>-[cid:image002.png@01CBA1BA.ADAA76D0]<http://www.facebook.com/pages/getunikcom/124320320041>----------------------------------------------
>
> --getunik ag-------------------------------------------
>
> oliver straesser oliver.straesser@getunik.com<ma...@getunik.com>
> hardturmstrasse 101 fon: +41 (0)44 388 55 88
> ch-8005 zuerich fax: +41 (0)44 388 55 89
>
> --aktuelles getunik projekt-------------------------
> Agieren Sie lokal! Geo Marketing für Ihre E-Mail Kampagne: www.geomarketing.com<http://www.geomarketing.com/>
>
> --best of swiss web awards 2009------------------
> Gold & Silber für Connect2Earth / Bronze für WWF UK
>
> we make the web a better place - www.getunik.com<http://www.getunik.com/>
>
>
>
>
> *****************************************************************
> P Bitte drucken Sie dieses E-Mail nur bei Bedarf aus. Die Umwelt dankt es Ihnen.
> *****************************************************************
>
>
--
--trialox ag--------------------------------------
Tsuyoshi Ito
Binzmuehlestrasse 14
CH-8050 Zürich
Tel. +41 44 635 75 77
URL: http://trialox.org