New example widget - learning guide

[Steve Lee <st...@fullmeasure.co.uk>]

I'm currently working on a widget for University of Oxford and would
like to submit it to Wookie for inclusion as a sample widget.

The widget is a simple learning guide that asks a series of questions
and allows the user to build up a list of follow-up actions by
clicking on links in the question text. Each question links to further
questions and the actions are either a text note or a link to a
further information in the form of a note or an external web page. The
questions and notes are contained in a xml data file and the internal
notes are formatted using Creole wiki format.

Would this be of interest to the Wookie community?

We have permission from University of Oxford. I have already discussed
this with Ross Gardler who has also worked on the code and he
suggested I sent this email.

The code is still a work in progress and can be found in this public repository:
http://opendirective.indefero.net/p/ipo/source/tree/master/

Thanks

Steve Lee
Programme Leader (Open Accessibility)
OpenDirective http://opendirective.com

Re: New example widget - learning guide

[Ross Gardler <rg...@opendirective.com>]

On 29 September 2011 16:31, Steve Lee <st...@fullmeasure.co.uk> wrote:
> We have permission from University of Oxford. I have already discussed
> this with Ross Gardler who has also worked on the code and he
> suggested I sent this email.
>
> The code is still a work in progress and can be found in this public repository:
> http://opendirective.indefero.net/p/ipo/source/tree/master/

Obviously I'm +1 on this. The only reason I've not just contributed it
to sandbox is because it is Steve's code and I want him to go through
the correct contribution process rather than have me cut corners.

Assuming no objections to this contribution Steve will submit a zip of
the code via Jira in the near future.

Ross

Re: New example widget - learning guide

[Steve Lee <st...@fullmeasure.co.uk>]

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Paul Sharples <p....@bolton.ac.uk> wrote:
> On 29/09/2011 16:31, Steve Lee wrote:
>>
>> I'm currently working on a widget for University of Oxford and would
>> like to submit it to Wookie for inclusion as a sample widget.
>>
>> The widget is a simple learning guide that asks a series of questions
>> and allows the user to build up a list of follow-up actions by
>> clicking on links in the question text. Each question links to further
>> questions and the actions are either a text note or a link to a
>> further information in the form of a note or an external web page. The
>> questions and notes are contained in a xml data file and the internal
>> notes are formatted using Creole wiki format.
>>
>> Would this be of interest to the Wookie community?
>
> This looks really good.  So +1 from me.
>
> A minor thing - I'm working on windows and the zipped .wgt file (built from
> the github files) didn't automatically import into wookie, giving a
> BadManifestException on config.xml. I had to move the xml declarations to be
> the first line in each xml file, before the license text. (Eclipse was also
> moaning about it) Once i did that it imported okay.

That's very interesting as I considered that might be a problem but
found several examples with comments first so assumed the parsers
would strip comments first (like c does). Perhaps I should have read
the XML spec. :) Whatever, you hit a problem so I will change. Thanks

Steve

Re: New example widget - learning guide

[Steve Lee <st...@fullmeasure.co.uk>]

I have now submitted the Walkthrough Widget to Jira for consideration.

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WOOKIE-253

Note that all licence references are *under* ASL and not *to* Apache
as previously discussed with Ross. This may need review. There is a
README.txt

Thanks

Steve

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Steve Lee <st...@fullmeasure.co.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Steve Lee <st...@fullmeasure.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> A minor thing - I'm working on windows and the zipped .wgt file (built
>>> from the github files) didn't automatically import into wookie, giving a
>>> BadManifestException on config.xml. I had to move the xml declarations to be
>>> the first line in each xml file, before the license text. (Eclipse was also
>>> moaning about it) Once i did that it imported okay.
>>>
>>> Good spot. It looks like Steve added the license headers before adding to
>>> the public repository and didn't test the new build. XML must always be the
>>> first line.
>>
>> I did test </gloat> but was pointing at wrong version </blush>
>
> I fixed this now and pushed it.
> From the XML spec it would appear to be a bug in the parser
>
> Steve

Re: New example widget - learning guide

[Steve Lee <st...@fullmeasure.co.uk>]

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Steve Lee <st...@fullmeasure.co.uk> wrote:
>>> A minor thing - I'm working on windows and the zipped .wgt file (built
>> from the github files) didn't automatically import into wookie, giving a
>> BadManifestException on config.xml. I had to move the xml declarations to be
>> the first line in each xml file, before the license text. (Eclipse was also
>> moaning about it) Once i did that it imported okay.
>>
>> Good spot. It looks like Steve added the license headers before adding to
>> the public repository and didn't test the new build. XML must always be the
>> first line.
>
> I did test </gloat> but was pointing at wrong version </blush>

I fixed this now and pushed it.
>From the XML spec it would appear to be a bug in the parser

Steve

Re: New example widget - learning guide

[Steve Lee <st...@fullmeasure.co.uk>]

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Ross Gardler
<rg...@opendirective.com> wrote:
> Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
> On Sep 29, 2011 6:24 PM, "Paul Sharples" <p....@bolton.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> On 29/09/2011 16:31, Steve Lee wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm currently working on a widget for University of Oxford and would
>>> like to submit it to Wookie for inclusion as a sample widget.
>>>
>>> The widget is a simple learning guide that asks a series of questions
>>> and allows the user to build up a list of follow-up actions by
>>> clicking on links in the question text. Each question links to further
>>> questions and the actions are either a text note or a link to a
>>> further information in the form of a note or an external web page. The
>>> questions and notes are contained in a xml data file and the internal
>>> notes are formatted using Creole wiki format.
>>>
>>> Would this be of interest to the Wookie community?
>>
>>
>> This looks really good.  So +1 from me.
>>
>> A minor thing - I'm working on windows and the zipped .wgt file (built
> from the github files) didn't automatically import into wookie, giving a
> BadManifestException on config.xml. I had to move the xml declarations to be
> the first line in each xml file, before the license text. (Eclipse was also
> moaning about it) Once i did that it imported okay.
>
> Good spot. It looks like Steve added the license headers before adding to
> the public repository and didn't test the new build. XML must always be the
> first line.

I did test </gloat> but was pointing at wrong version </blush>

Steve

Re: New example widget - learning guide

[Ross Gardler <rg...@opendirective.com>]

Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On Sep 29, 2011 6:24 PM, "Paul Sharples" <p....@bolton.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> On 29/09/2011 16:31, Steve Lee wrote:
>>
>> I'm currently working on a widget for University of Oxford and would
>> like to submit it to Wookie for inclusion as a sample widget.
>>
>> The widget is a simple learning guide that asks a series of questions
>> and allows the user to build up a list of follow-up actions by
>> clicking on links in the question text. Each question links to further
>> questions and the actions are either a text note or a link to a
>> further information in the form of a note or an external web page. The
>> questions and notes are contained in a xml data file and the internal
>> notes are formatted using Creole wiki format.
>>
>> Would this be of interest to the Wookie community?
>
>
> This looks really good.  So +1 from me.
>
> A minor thing - I'm working on windows and the zipped .wgt file (built
from the github files) didn't automatically import into wookie, giving a
BadManifestException on config.xml. I had to move the xml declarations to be
the first line in each xml file, before the license text. (Eclipse was also
moaning about it) Once i did that it imported okay.

Good spot. It looks like Steve added the license headers before adding to
the public repository and didn't test the new build. XML must always be the
first line.

Ross

>
>
>>
>> We have permission from University of Oxford. I have already discussed
>> this with Ross Gardler who has also worked on the code and he
>> suggested I sent this email.
>>
>> The code is still a work in progress and can be found in this public
repository:
>> http://opendirective.indefero.net/p/ipo/source/tree/master/
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Steve Lee
>> Programme Leader (Open Accessibility)
>> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
>
>

Re: New example widget - learning guide

[Paul Sharples <p....@bolton.ac.uk>]

On 29/09/2011 16:31, Steve Lee wrote:
> I'm currently working on a widget for University of Oxford and would
> like to submit it to Wookie for inclusion as a sample widget.
>
> The widget is a simple learning guide that asks a series of questions
> and allows the user to build up a list of follow-up actions by
> clicking on links in the question text. Each question links to further
> questions and the actions are either a text note or a link to a
> further information in the form of a note or an external web page. The
> questions and notes are contained in a xml data file and the internal
> notes are formatted using Creole wiki format.
>
> Would this be of interest to the Wookie community?

This looks really good.  So +1 from me.

A minor thing - I'm working on windows and the zipped .wgt file (built 
from the github files) didn't automatically import into wookie, giving a 
BadManifestException on config.xml. I had to move the xml declarations 
to be the first line in each xml file, before the license text. (Eclipse 
was also moaning about it) Once i did that it imported okay.

>
> We have permission from University of Oxford. I have already discussed
> this with Ross Gardler who has also worked on the code and he
> suggested I sent this email.
>
> The code is still a work in progress and can be found in this public repository:
> http://opendirective.indefero.net/p/ipo/source/tree/master/
>
> Thanks
>
> Steve Lee
> Programme Leader (Open Accessibility)
> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com

Re: New example widget - learning guide

[Steve Lee <st...@fullmeasure.co.uk>]

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Ross Gardler
<rg...@opendirective.com> wrote:
> On 30 September 2011 09:24, Scott Wilson <sc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 29 Sep 2011, at 16:31, Steve Lee wrote:
>
> ...
>
>> One thing I noticed was that the JQuery and JQueryMobile imports are done statically in the HTML rather than via <feature> - is that because of a version incompatibility issue?
>
> That was the tiny contribution I made to the code (removing the
> feature and adding static link). So I'll answer.

Thanks Ross

> If we use the feature from within Wookie then the application must be
> served by Wookie. If we use the static links then it works as a
> standalone webapp. Since the client isn't currently running Wookie and
> doesn't want to embed it in another application we saw no benefit to
> the client in tethering to Wookie just for this feature.

We could also use the CDN hosted files but going static removes
another dependency (and it's appears safe to redistribute)

> We also had a concern about the introduction of version
> incompatibilities that were not under our control. Steve has already
> raised a ticket about this. However, this was not something we
> experienced, just something we didn't want to expose our clients to.
> This can be resolved within Wookie though.

I did hit a version problem with a JQM function - details in the ticket

> Once the code is here we can optionally modify it to use features
> again, but until we use some other Wookie specific feature I see no
> benefit in it.

+1

Steve

Re: New example widget - learning guide

[Ross Gardler <rg...@opendirective.com>]

On 30 September 2011 09:24, Scott Wilson <sc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 29 Sep 2011, at 16:31, Steve Lee wrote:

...

> One thing I noticed was that the JQuery and JQueryMobile imports are done statically in the HTML rather than via <feature> - is that because of a version incompatibility issue?

That was the tiny contribution I made to the code (removing the
feature and adding static link). So I'll answer.

If we use the feature from within Wookie then the application must be
served by Wookie. If we use the static links then it works as a
standalone webapp. Since the client isn't currently running Wookie and
doesn't want to embed it in another application we saw no benefit to
the client in tethering to Wookie just for this feature.

We also had a concern about the introduction of version
incompatibilities that were not under our control. Steve has already
raised a ticket about this. However, this was not something we
experienced, just something we didn't want to expose our clients to.
This can be resolved within Wookie though.

Once the code is here we can optionally modify it to use features
again, but until we use some other Wookie specific feature I see no
benefit in it.

Ross

Re: New example widget - learning guide

[Steve Lee <st...@fullmeasure.co.uk>]

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Scott Wilson
<sc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 29 Sep 2011, at 16:31, Steve Lee wrote:
>
>> I'm currently working on a widget for University of Oxford and would
>> like to submit it to Wookie for inclusion as a sample widget.
>>
>> The widget is a simple learning guide that asks a series of questions
>> and allows the user to build up a list of follow-up actions by
>> clicking on links in the question text. Each question links to further
>> questions and the actions are either a text note or a link to a
>> further information in the form of a note or an external web page. The
>> questions and notes are contained in a xml data file and the internal
>> notes are formatted using Creole wiki format.
>>
>> Would this be of interest to the Wookie community?
>
> Sounds like an interesting widget - if you submit it as a new patch in Jira we can review it and add it to the sandbox.

Great.  I will do so.

>> We have permission from University of Oxford. I have already discussed
>> this with Ross Gardler who has also worked on the code and he
>> suggested I sent this email.
>>
>> The code is still a work in progress and can be found in this public repository:
>> http://opendirective.indefero.net/p/ipo/source/tree/master/
>
>
> One thing I noticed was that the JQuery and JQueryMobile imports are done statically in the HTML rather than via <feature> - is that because of a version incompatibility issue?

Correct. Plus as mention in ticket # it adds an extra dependency on Wookie

Hmm https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WOOKIE seems to be down.

Steve

RE: New example widget - learning guide

["Doherty, Anthony" <A....@ljmu.ac.uk>]

It does sound like an interesting project. Given what it does and the way it achieves it, it would make a good sample widget.

Anthony

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-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Wilson [mailto:scott.bradley.wilson@gmail.com] 
Sent: 30 September 2011 09:24
To: wookie-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: New example widget - learning guide

On 29 Sep 2011, at 16:31, Steve Lee wrote:

> I'm currently working on a widget for University of Oxford and would
> like to submit it to Wookie for inclusion as a sample widget.
> 
> The widget is a simple learning guide that asks a series of questions
> and allows the user to build up a list of follow-up actions by
> clicking on links in the question text. Each question links to further
> questions and the actions are either a text note or a link to a
> further information in the form of a note or an external web page. The
> questions and notes are contained in a xml data file and the internal
> notes are formatted using Creole wiki format.
> 
> Would this be of interest to the Wookie community?

Sounds like an interesting widget - if you submit it as a new patch in Jira we can review it and add it to the sandbox.

> We have permission from University of Oxford. I have already discussed
> this with Ross Gardler who has also worked on the code and he
> suggested I sent this email.
> 
> The code is still a work in progress and can be found in this public repository:
> http://opendirective.indefero.net/p/ipo/source/tree/master/


One thing I noticed was that the JQuery and JQueryMobile imports are done statically in the HTML rather than via <feature> - is that because of a version incompatibility issue?

> Thanks
> 
> Steve Lee
> Programme Leader (Open Accessibility)
> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com

Re: New example widget - learning guide

[Scott Wilson <sc...@gmail.com>]

On 29 Sep 2011, at 16:31, Steve Lee wrote:

> I'm currently working on a widget for University of Oxford and would
> like to submit it to Wookie for inclusion as a sample widget.
> 
> The widget is a simple learning guide that asks a series of questions
> and allows the user to build up a list of follow-up actions by
> clicking on links in the question text. Each question links to further
> questions and the actions are either a text note or a link to a
> further information in the form of a note or an external web page. The
> questions and notes are contained in a xml data file and the internal
> notes are formatted using Creole wiki format.
> 
> Would this be of interest to the Wookie community?

Sounds like an interesting widget - if you submit it as a new patch in Jira we can review it and add it to the sandbox.

> We have permission from University of Oxford. I have already discussed
> this with Ross Gardler who has also worked on the code and he
> suggested I sent this email.
> 
> The code is still a work in progress and can be found in this public repository:
> http://opendirective.indefero.net/p/ipo/source/tree/master/


One thing I noticed was that the JQuery and JQueryMobile imports are done statically in the HTML rather than via <feature> - is that because of a version incompatibility issue?

> Thanks
> 
> Steve Lee
> Programme Leader (Open Accessibility)
> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com