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Zeppelin Incubator PMC report for January 2015
Guys,
as today as a due date for Incubator PMC report and Zeppelin has started an
incubation on 2014-12-23 I wanted to rise a question - if Zeppelin is
expected to prepare subj.
But it strikes me that it has been taken care of :)
So my question is:
1)the reporting, is it just about edition popper section of incubation
wiki? Or should it be posted here for review first?
Is it expected to happen the same way in future or is it something we
should be taking care of?
2) should we kindly ask other mentors to sign it off? Which makes sense to
me, especially in light of ongoing discussion in Incubator list.
I'm attaching the current report:
ZeppelinZeppelin is a collaborative data analytics and visualization
toolfor distributed, general-purpose data processing systems such
asApache Spark, Apache Flink, etc.Zeppelin has been incubating since
2014-12-23.Three most important issues to address in the move towards
graduation: 1. Complete the SGA 2. Migrate to ASF infrastructure 3.
Complete PODLINGNAMESEARCH-64Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC)
or ASF Board wish/need to be aware of? No.How has the community
developed since the last report? Zeppelin has just entered the ASF
Incubator and the onboarding is progressing nicely. All initial
committers have been issued ASF accounts and the basic INFRA has
been setup.How has the project developed since the last report? This
is the first report.Date of last release: N/AWhen were the last
committers or PMC members elected? N/ASigned-off-by: [x](zeppelin)
Konstantin Boudnik [ ](zeppelin) Hyunsik Choi [X](zeppelin) Ted
Dunning [ ](zeppelin) Henry Saputra [X](zeppelin) Roman
ShaposhnikShepherd/Mentor notes:
Re: Zeppelin Incubator PMC report for January 2015
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:41 PM, Alex B. <bz...@apache.org> wrote:
> So in other words my proposal is to rotate all Chair responsibilities by a
> "reporting period", and as before I'm willing to volunteer to do that.
>
Great idea.
Even just moving around the responsibility for the report is a great thing.
Re: Zeppelin Incubator PMC report for January 2015
Posted by Anthony Corbacho <an...@apache.org>.
Hi,
I like the idea or rotating responsibilities for the chair (report) things.
I guess now it is the perfect time for us to try and learn how to handle
that.
Everybody (that volunteer) should have a change to try at least once.
Cheers,
Anthony.
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Alex B. <bz...@apache.org> wrote:
> Just FYI: the reason I was suggesting a *rotation of responsibilities* at
> first is exactly not to start the journey in ASF with "picking a Chair, VP,
> etc".
>
> My suggestion is to give everyone equal opportunities to learn the bylaws
> of foundation, earn merit, study Apache Way from more experienced members
> first by doing everything necessary to represent the for ASF (of which
> reporting came as a first example)
>
>
> So in other words my proposal is to rotate all Chair responsibilities by a
> "reporting period", and as before I'm willing to volunteer to do that.
>
> Otherwise I feel like an infant project might be in trap of not really
> growing a democratic one..
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 3:22 PM, moon soo Lee <mo...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have couple of questions about PMC and Incubator and how they work.
> >
> > Roman suggested pick one who acting as a Chair for Zeppelin for PMC
> report.
> > Would it be wrong if i understand that acting as a Chair is also need to
> > take care of other things if there is an issue, just like TLP?
> > (Or is it carefully designed rule with some purpose that project in
> > incubator does not have Chair?)
> >
> > If having an acting as a Chair helps project, I'd like to volunteer,
> while
> > I believe I've been driving project and community from the beginning.
> >
> >
> > About rotating PMC report responsibility Alex suggested, while Zeppelin
> is
> > in incubator, I agree on it's positive side with one little concern.
> > Depends on when it graduates and number of new PPMC we can get, possibly
> > some people may have no chances. It if does not make any problem, I'm
> good
> > with it and I'll take next report after the Alex.
> >
> > Best,
> > moon
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Alex B. <bz...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Sounds great, thank you for explanation Roman.
> > > It is so true that to have such mentors as you guys is a great
> > opportunity
> > > for the project!
> > >
> > > If I may, I'd like to suggest we implement the *rotation of the
> reporting
> > > responsibility*: this way we maximise number of PPMC people involved in
> > ASF
> > > life. It should be possible as we have enough senior members on this
> list
> > > who can help.
> > >
> > > Having said that, I want to volunteer to take care of the next one,
> > > February report.
> > >
> > > Please, let me know what you think.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <
> > roman@shaposhnik.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > 2) should we kindly ask other mentors to sign it off? Which makes
> > > sense
> > > > > to
> > > > > > me, especially in light of ongoing discussion in Incubator list.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mentors are required to sign off on each and every report. I can
> also
> > > > > assure you that there'll be plenty of feedback for the first couple
> > of
> > > > > reports on dev@ ;-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have to say that having Roman as a co-mentor has not left me a lot
> to
> > > do
> > > > (which is good since I am swatting pretty hard on Kylin). This means
> > > that
> > > > signing off the report is something that I look forward to doing. I
> > > > finally get to do something!
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Zeppelin Incubator PMC report for January 2015
Posted by "Alex B." <bz...@apache.org>.
Just FYI: the reason I was suggesting a *rotation of responsibilities* at
first is exactly not to start the journey in ASF with "picking a Chair, VP,
etc".
My suggestion is to give everyone equal opportunities to learn the bylaws
of foundation, earn merit, study Apache Way from more experienced members
first by doing everything necessary to represent the for ASF (of which
reporting came as a first example)
So in other words my proposal is to rotate all Chair responsibilities by a
"reporting period", and as before I'm willing to volunteer to do that.
Otherwise I feel like an infant project might be in trap of not really
growing a democratic one..
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 3:22 PM, moon soo Lee <mo...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have couple of questions about PMC and Incubator and how they work.
>
> Roman suggested pick one who acting as a Chair for Zeppelin for PMC report.
> Would it be wrong if i understand that acting as a Chair is also need to
> take care of other things if there is an issue, just like TLP?
> (Or is it carefully designed rule with some purpose that project in
> incubator does not have Chair?)
>
> If having an acting as a Chair helps project, I'd like to volunteer, while
> I believe I've been driving project and community from the beginning.
>
>
> About rotating PMC report responsibility Alex suggested, while Zeppelin is
> in incubator, I agree on it's positive side with one little concern.
> Depends on when it graduates and number of new PPMC we can get, possibly
> some people may have no chances. It if does not make any problem, I'm good
> with it and I'll take next report after the Alex.
>
> Best,
> moon
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Alex B. <bz...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Sounds great, thank you for explanation Roman.
> > It is so true that to have such mentors as you guys is a great
> opportunity
> > for the project!
> >
> > If I may, I'd like to suggest we implement the *rotation of the reporting
> > responsibility*: this way we maximise number of PPMC people involved in
> ASF
> > life. It should be possible as we have enough senior members on this list
> > who can help.
> >
> > Having said that, I want to volunteer to take care of the next one,
> > February report.
> >
> > Please, let me know what you think.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <
> roman@shaposhnik.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > 2) should we kindly ask other mentors to sign it off? Which makes
> > sense
> > > > to
> > > > > me, especially in light of ongoing discussion in Incubator list.
> > > >
> > > > Mentors are required to sign off on each and every report. I can also
> > > > assure you that there'll be plenty of feedback for the first couple
> of
> > > > reports on dev@ ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > > I have to say that having Roman as a co-mentor has not left me a lot to
> > do
> > > (which is good since I am swatting pretty hard on Kylin). This means
> > that
> > > signing off the report is something that I look forward to doing. I
> > > finally get to do something!
> > >
> >
>
Re: Zeppelin Incubator PMC report for January 2015
Posted by moon soo Lee <mo...@apache.org>.
Hi,
I have couple of questions about PMC and Incubator and how they work.
Roman suggested pick one who acting as a Chair for Zeppelin for PMC report.
Would it be wrong if i understand that acting as a Chair is also need to
take care of other things if there is an issue, just like TLP?
(Or is it carefully designed rule with some purpose that project in
incubator does not have Chair?)
If having an acting as a Chair helps project, I'd like to volunteer, while
I believe I've been driving project and community from the beginning.
About rotating PMC report responsibility Alex suggested, while Zeppelin is
in incubator, I agree on it's positive side with one little concern.
Depends on when it graduates and number of new PPMC we can get, possibly
some people may have no chances. It if does not make any problem, I'm good
with it and I'll take next report after the Alex.
Best,
moon
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Alex B. <bz...@apache.org> wrote:
> Sounds great, thank you for explanation Roman.
> It is so true that to have such mentors as you guys is a great opportunity
> for the project!
>
> If I may, I'd like to suggest we implement the *rotation of the reporting
> responsibility*: this way we maximise number of PPMC people involved in ASF
> life. It should be possible as we have enough senior members on this list
> who can help.
>
> Having said that, I want to volunteer to take care of the next one,
> February report.
>
> Please, let me know what you think.
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > 2) should we kindly ask other mentors to sign it off? Which makes
> sense
> > > to
> > > > me, especially in light of ongoing discussion in Incubator list.
> > >
> > > Mentors are required to sign off on each and every report. I can also
> > > assure you that there'll be plenty of feedback for the first couple of
> > > reports on dev@ ;-)
> >
> >
> > I have to say that having Roman as a co-mentor has not left me a lot to
> do
> > (which is good since I am swatting pretty hard on Kylin). This means
> that
> > signing off the report is something that I look forward to doing. I
> > finally get to do something!
> >
>
Re: Zeppelin Incubator PMC report for January 2015
Posted by "Alex B." <bz...@apache.org>.
Sounds great, thank you for explanation Roman.
It is so true that to have such mentors as you guys is a great opportunity
for the project!
If I may, I'd like to suggest we implement the *rotation of the reporting
responsibility*: this way we maximise number of PPMC people involved in ASF
life. It should be possible as we have enough senior members on this list
who can help.
Having said that, I want to volunteer to take care of the next one,
February report.
Please, let me know what you think.
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
> wrote:
>
> > > 2) should we kindly ask other mentors to sign it off? Which makes sense
> > to
> > > me, especially in light of ongoing discussion in Incubator list.
> >
> > Mentors are required to sign off on each and every report. I can also
> > assure you that there'll be plenty of feedback for the first couple of
> > reports on dev@ ;-)
>
>
> I have to say that having Roman as a co-mentor has not left me a lot to do
> (which is good since I am swatting pretty hard on Kylin). This means that
> signing off the report is something that I look forward to doing. I
> finally get to do something!
>
Re: Zeppelin Incubator PMC report for January 2015
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
wrote:
> > 2) should we kindly ask other mentors to sign it off? Which makes sense
> to
> > me, especially in light of ongoing discussion in Incubator list.
>
> Mentors are required to sign off on each and every report. I can also
> assure you that there'll be plenty of feedback for the first couple of
> reports on dev@ ;-)
I have to say that having Roman as a co-mentor has not left me a lot to do
(which is good since I am swatting pretty hard on Kylin). This means that
signing off the report is something that I look forward to doing. I
finally get to do something!
Re: Zeppelin Incubator PMC report for January 2015
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Alex B. <bz...@apache.org> wrote:
> Guys,
>
> as today as a due date for Incubator PMC report and Zeppelin has started an
> incubation on 2014-12-23 I wanted to rise a question - if Zeppelin is
> expected to prepare subj.
> But it strikes me that it has been taken care of :)
Yes and I already did that. The report at this point only covered what
mentors have done wrt. on-boarding. Starting from the next one the
community is in charge or preparing one.
> So my question is:
> 1)the reporting, is it just about edition popper section of incubation
> wiki? Or should it be posted here for review first?
> Is it expected to happen the same way in future or is it something we
> should be taking care of?
Its up to you guys. You'll report monthly for two more months and then
quarterly. In a TLP project a Chair drives report creation and submission
to the board. I suggest you do the same -- decide on somebody who
would be acting as a Chair for Zeppelin and have that person:
1. create an initial report a week ahead of Incubator deadline (for podling
report submission)
2. circulate it on dev@ to gather feedback
3. post to the Incubator wiki for mentors to sign off
> 2) should we kindly ask other mentors to sign it off? Which makes sense to
> me, especially in light of ongoing discussion in Incubator list.
Mentors are required to sign off on each and every report. I can also
assure you that there'll be plenty of feedback for the first couple of
reports on dev@ ;-)
Thanks,
Roman.
Re: Zeppelin Incubator PMC report for January 2015
Posted by "Alex B." <bz...@apache.org>.
Sorry, formating went totally off in gmail.
Here is a link to current report
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2015
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Alex B. <bz...@apache.org> wrote:
> Guys,
>
> as today as a due date for Incubator PMC report and Zeppelin has started
> an incubation on 2014-12-23 I wanted to rise a question - if Zeppelin is
> expected to prepare subj.
>
> But it strikes me that it has been taken care of :)
>
> So my question is:
> 1)the reporting, is it just about edition popper section of incubation
> wiki? Or should it be posted here for review first?
> Is it expected to happen the same way in future or is it something we
> should be taking care of?
>
> 2) should we kindly ask other mentors to sign it off? Which makes sense to
> me, especially in light of ongoing discussion in Incubator list.
>
> I'm attaching the current report:
>
> ZeppelinZeppelin is a collaborative data analytics and visualization toolfor distributed, general-purpose data processing systems such asApache Spark, Apache Flink, etc.Zeppelin has been incubating since 2014-12-23.Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation: 1. Complete the SGA 2. Migrate to ASF infrastructure 3. Complete PODLINGNAMESEARCH-64Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be aware of? No.How has the community developed since the last report? Zeppelin has just entered the ASF Incubator and the onboarding is progressing nicely. All initial committers have been issued ASF accounts and the basic INFRA has been setup.How has the project developed since the last report? This is the first report.Date of last release: N/AWhen were the last committers or PMC members elected? N/ASigned-off-by: [x](zeppelin) Konstantin Boudnik [ ](zeppelin) Hyunsik Choi [X](zeppelin) Ted Dunning [ ](zeppelin) Henry Saputra [X](zeppelin) Roman ShaposhnikShepherd/Mentor notes:
>
>