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Posted to mirrors@apache.org by Gerald Richter <ri...@ecos.de> on 2000/03/03 12:24:52 UTC

Mirroring of virtual host of apache.org (was: RE: mod Perl source missing???)

>From Brian:
> >
> > This means perl.apache.org is no longer mirrored by the apache mirrors?
> >
> > If this is true we either have to remove the mirrors pages from
> > perl.apache.org or setup things in another way (I don't know how), that
> > perl.apache.org get mirrored again.
>
> Yes, it means they aren't being mirrored, and yes, it would be goodness to
> come up with a mirroring strategy for apache.org vhosts.  I suggest
> discussing this on the mirrors@apache.org mailing list, where all the
> mirror maintainers are (supposedly) subscribed.
>

I am not part of the mirrors mailing list, but I forward this mail to there
and hope somebody can pick it up and have an idea how the other hosts
(perl.apache.org, xml.apache.org etc.) can be mirrored in the future. (In
the past they were just a subdirectory of www.apache.org and therefor
mirrored automaticly, because of the new directory structure this isn't true
anymore).

Since I not belong to the mirrors mailing list, please CC me any answers

Gerald

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Re: Mirroring of virtual host of apache.org (was: RE: mod Perl source missing???)

Posted by Pierpaolo Fumagalli <pi...@apache.org>.
Gerald Richter wrote:
> 
> >From Brian:
> > >
> > > This means perl.apache.org is no longer mirrored by the apache mirrors?
> > >
> > > If this is true we either have to remove the mirrors pages from
> > > perl.apache.org or setup things in another way (I don't know how), that
> > > perl.apache.org get mirrored again.
> >
> > Yes, it means they aren't being mirrored, and yes, it would be goodness to
> > come up with a mirroring strategy for apache.org vhosts.  I suggest
> > discussing this on the mirrors@apache.org mailing list, where all the
> > mirror maintainers are (supposedly) subscribed.
> >
> 
> I am not part of the mirrors mailing list, but I forward this mail to there
> and hope somebody can pick it up and have an idea how the other hosts
> (perl.apache.org, xml.apache.org etc.) can be mirrored in the future. (In
> the past they were just a subdirectory of www.apache.org and therefor
> mirrored automaticly, because of the new directory structure this isn't true
> anymore).
> 
> Since I not belong to the mirrors mailing list, please CC me any answers

It's not easy to find a solution regarding mirrors of all web sites,
since right now, jakarta and xml apache are both generated dinamically.
This is one of those issues I'll bring up to the ASF members meeting
next week-end, or at least, try to solve once for all whil we're all
there in the same place.

	Pier

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Re: Mirroring of virtual host of apache.org (was: RE: mod Perl source missing???)

Posted by Pierpaolo Fumagalli <pi...@apache.org>.
Gerald Richter wrote:
> 
> >From Brian:
> > >
> > > This means perl.apache.org is no longer mirrored by the apache mirrors?
> > >
> > > If this is true we either have to remove the mirrors pages from
> > > perl.apache.org or setup things in another way (I don't know how), that
> > > perl.apache.org get mirrored again.
> >
> > Yes, it means they aren't being mirrored, and yes, it would be goodness to
> > come up with a mirroring strategy for apache.org vhosts.  I suggest
> > discussing this on the mirrors@apache.org mailing list, where all the
> > mirror maintainers are (supposedly) subscribed.
> >
> 
> I am not part of the mirrors mailing list, but I forward this mail to there
> and hope somebody can pick it up and have an idea how the other hosts
> (perl.apache.org, xml.apache.org etc.) can be mirrored in the future. (In
> the past they were just a subdirectory of www.apache.org and therefor
> mirrored automaticly, because of the new directory structure this isn't true
> anymore).
> 
> Since I not belong to the mirrors mailing list, please CC me any answers

It's not easy to find a solution regarding mirrors of all web sites,
since right now, jakarta and xml apache are both generated dinamically.
This is one of those issues I'll bring up to the ASF members meeting
next week-end, or at least, try to solve once for all whil we're all
there in the same place.

	Pier

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Re: Mirroring of virtual host of apache.org (was: RE: mod Perl sourcemissing???)

Posted by Pierpaolo Fumagalli <pi...@apache.org>.
Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Pierpaolo Fumagalli wrote:
> 
> [...]
> > Will some of you be at ApacheCON in Orlando this year? I bet we could
> > better meet face to face and find a solution all together...
> 
> I know Stas will be there. I'm trying to find time for it too. Doug
> claimed he would be there too :) (but I doubt he's too interested in how
> we mirror stuff, heeh)
> 
>  - ask
> 
> --
> ask bjoern hansen - <http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/>
> more than 70M impressions per day, <http://valueclick.com>

I'll just a post on the first available bullettin board at the CON and
send a mail to the mirrors mailing list on the location/date/time of the
"meeting" (preferable if consumed with a nice beer sitting on a couch!)

	Pier

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Re: Mirroring of virtual host of apache.org (was: RE: mod Perl sourcemissing???)

Posted by Pierpaolo Fumagalli <pi...@apache.org>.
Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Pierpaolo Fumagalli wrote:
> 
> [...]
> > Will some of you be at ApacheCON in Orlando this year? I bet we could
> > better meet face to face and find a solution all together...
> 
> I know Stas will be there. I'm trying to find time for it too. Doug
> claimed he would be there too :) (but I doubt he's too interested in how
> we mirror stuff, heeh)
> 
>  - ask
> 
> --
> ask bjoern hansen - <http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/>
> more than 70M impressions per day, <http://valueclick.com>

I'll just a post on the first available bullettin board at the CON and
send a mail to the mirrors mailing list on the location/date/time of the
"meeting" (preferable if consumed with a nice beer sitting on a couch!)

	Pier

-- 
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-          P              I              E              R          -
stable structure erected over water to allow the docking of seacraft
<ma...@betaversion.org>    <http://www.betaversion.org/~pier/>
--------------------------------------------------------------------
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-------------------- <http://www.apachecon.com> --------------------

Re: Mirroring of virtual host of apache.org (was: RE: mod Perl sourcemissing???)

Posted by Ask Bjoern Hansen <as...@valueclick.com>.
On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Pierpaolo Fumagalli wrote:

[...]
> Will some of you be at ApacheCON in Orlando this year? I bet we could
> better meet face to face and find a solution all together...

I know Stas will be there. I'm trying to find time for it too. Doug
claimed he would be there too :) (but I doubt he's too interested in how
we mirror stuff, heeh)


 - ask

-- 
ask bjoern hansen - <http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/>
more than 70M impressions per day, <http://valueclick.com>


Re: Mirroring of virtual host of apache.org (was: RE: mod Perl sourcemissing???)

Posted by Ask Bjoern Hansen <as...@valueclick.com>.
On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Pierpaolo Fumagalli wrote:

[...]
> Will some of you be at ApacheCON in Orlando this year? I bet we could
> better meet face to face and find a solution all together...

I know Stas will be there. I'm trying to find time for it too. Doug
claimed he would be there too :) (but I doubt he's too interested in how
we mirror stuff, heeh)


 - ask

-- 
ask bjoern hansen - <http://www.netcetera.dk/~ask/>
more than 70M impressions per day, <http://valueclick.com>


Re: Mirroring of virtual host of apache.org (was: RE: mod Perl sourcemissing???)

Posted by Pierpaolo Fumagalli <pi...@apache.org>.
John wrote:
> 
> David Kirchner wrote:
> 
> > Personally, I'd like to go ahead and mirror perl/xml/etc as directories
> > off of the main apache mirror (in my case, http://apache.nwserv.com/) as
> > we were doing before, rather than set up more virtual host entries. What
> > does everyone else plan to do?
> >
> > Right now I am using rsync to mirror apache-site off of dev.apache.org -
> > are there plans to add xml and perl and etc to rsync?
> 
> My suggestion would be to allow separate rsync entries to download the additional
> sections, with maybe an "all" entry possible.  While this would be a bit of a pain
> to set up initially (for the maintainers, and to a small degree the mirrors), it
> does allow for flexibility in "what a mirror wants to download" . . . just a
> thought.
> 
>   Best, John.

Will some of you be at ApacheCON in Orlando this year? I bet we could
better meet face to face and find a solution all together...

	Pier


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Re: Mirroring of virtual host of apache.org (was: RE: mod Perl sourcemissing???)

Posted by Pierpaolo Fumagalli <pi...@apache.org>.
John wrote:
> 
> David Kirchner wrote:
> 
> > Personally, I'd like to go ahead and mirror perl/xml/etc as directories
> > off of the main apache mirror (in my case, http://apache.nwserv.com/) as
> > we were doing before, rather than set up more virtual host entries. What
> > does everyone else plan to do?
> >
> > Right now I am using rsync to mirror apache-site off of dev.apache.org -
> > are there plans to add xml and perl and etc to rsync?
> 
> My suggestion would be to allow separate rsync entries to download the additional
> sections, with maybe an "all" entry possible.  While this would be a bit of a pain
> to set up initially (for the maintainers, and to a small degree the mirrors), it
> does allow for flexibility in "what a mirror wants to download" . . . just a
> thought.
> 
>   Best, John.

Will some of you be at ApacheCON in Orlando this year? I bet we could
better meet face to face and find a solution all together...

	Pier


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-------------------- <http://www.apachecon.com> --------------------



Re: Mirroring of virtual host of apache.org (was: RE: mod Perl sourcemissing???)

Posted by John <we...@glock.missouri.edu>.
David Kirchner wrote:

> Personally, I'd like to go ahead and mirror perl/xml/etc as directories
> off of the main apache mirror (in my case, http://apache.nwserv.com/) as
> we were doing before, rather than set up more virtual host entries. What
> does everyone else plan to do?
>
> Right now I am using rsync to mirror apache-site off of dev.apache.org -
> are there plans to add xml and perl and etc to rsync?

My suggestion would be to allow separate rsync entries to download the additional
sections, with maybe an "all" entry possible.  While this would be a bit of a pain
to set up initially (for the maintainers, and to a small degree the mirrors), it
does allow for flexibility in "what a mirror wants to download" . . . just a
thought.

  Best, John.



Re: Mirroring of virtual host of apache.org (was: RE: mod Perl sourcemissing???)

Posted by Pierpaolo Fumagalli <pi...@apache.org>.
David Kirchner wrote:
> 
> Hi all -
> 
> Personally, I'd like to go ahead and mirror perl/xml/etc as directories
> off of the main apache mirror (in my case, http://apache.nwserv.com/) as
> we were doing before, rather than set up more virtual host entries. What
> does everyone else plan to do?
> 
> Right now I am using rsync to mirror apache-site off of dev.apache.org -
> are there plans to add xml and perl and etc to rsync?

It's an issue on how to organize the directories and the updates, since
all sites are sitting on the same machine... We'll see... Let me bring
this problem to the others @ ApacheCON...

	Pier

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--------------------------------------------------------------------
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-------------------- <http://www.apachecon.com> --------------------



Re: Mirroring of virtual host of apache.org (was: RE: mod Perl sourcemissing???)

Posted by John <we...@glock.missouri.edu>.
David Kirchner wrote:

> Personally, I'd like to go ahead and mirror perl/xml/etc as directories
> off of the main apache mirror (in my case, http://apache.nwserv.com/) as
> we were doing before, rather than set up more virtual host entries. What
> does everyone else plan to do?
>
> Right now I am using rsync to mirror apache-site off of dev.apache.org -
> are there plans to add xml and perl and etc to rsync?

My suggestion would be to allow separate rsync entries to download the additional
sections, with maybe an "all" entry possible.  While this would be a bit of a pain
to set up initially (for the maintainers, and to a small degree the mirrors), it
does allow for flexibility in "what a mirror wants to download" . . . just a
thought.

  Best, John.



Re: Mirroring of virtual host of apache.org (was: RE: mod Perl source missing???)

Posted by David Kirchner <dp...@nwserv.com>.
Hi all -

Personally, I'd like to go ahead and mirror perl/xml/etc as directories
off of the main apache mirror (in my case, http://apache.nwserv.com/) as
we were doing before, rather than set up more virtual host entries. What
does everyone else plan to do?

Right now I am using rsync to mirror apache-site off of dev.apache.org -
are there plans to add xml and perl and etc to rsync?

-- 
David Kirchner - dpk@nwserv.com
Northwest Web Services - http://www.nwserv.com/

On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Gerald Richter wrote:

> >From Brian:
> > >
> > > This means perl.apache.org is no longer mirrored by the apache mirrors?
> > >
> > > If this is true we either have to remove the mirrors pages from
> > > perl.apache.org or setup things in another way (I don't know how), that
> > > perl.apache.org get mirrored again.
> >
> > Yes, it means they aren't being mirrored, and yes, it would be goodness to
> > come up with a mirroring strategy for apache.org vhosts.  I suggest
> > discussing this on the mirrors@apache.org mailing list, where all the
> > mirror maintainers are (supposedly) subscribed.
> >
> 
> I am not part of the mirrors mailing list, but I forward this mail to there
> and hope somebody can pick it up and have an idea how the other hosts
> (perl.apache.org, xml.apache.org etc.) can be mirrored in the future. (In
> the past they were just a subdirectory of www.apache.org and therefor
> mirrored automaticly, because of the new directory structure this isn't true
> anymore).
> 
> Since I not belong to the mirrors mailing list, please CC me any answers
> 
> Gerald
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Gerald Richter    ecos electronic communication services gmbh
> Internetconnect * Webserver/-design/-datenbanken * Consulting
> 
> Post:       Tulpenstrasse 5         D-55276 Dienheim b. Mainz
> E-Mail:     richter@ecos.de         Voice:    +49 6133 925151
> WWW:        http://www.ecos.de      Fax:      +49 6133 925152
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>