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Posted to dev@subversion.apache.org by "Andreas J. Koenig" <an...@anima.de> on 2002/11/14 12:06:58 UTC
httpd CVS stability risk: snapshots available?
The dependency on httpd CVS version is a major pain. If things go
wrong you never know where to look: any of httpd, apr, apr-util or svn
may be the culprit.
IMO it would be a good idea if there were a snapshot tarball or
several snapshot tarballs representing a stable point that svn
developers/users could rely on. Alternatively an SVN repository for
these three would also be just as helpful.
Does any of such exist?
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Re: httpd CVS stability risk: snapshots available?
Posted by "Andreas J. Koenig" <an...@anima.de>.
>>>>> On 14 Nov 2002 15:44:46 -0600, Karl Fogel <kf...@newton.ch.collab.net> said:
> andreas.koenig@anima.de (Andreas J. Koenig) writes:
>> Finding the CVS repositories is no problem, the CVS URLs are written
>> down in the INSTALL file. But:
>>
>> Testing for a version that is only available from CVS is something
>> completely different than testing for a published version. The CVS
>> target is moving and may break any day now.
> No, I mean URLs for downloading tarballs. Do we not give those
> anywhere? I thought we did, but maybe not.
The INSTALL file mentions httpd-2.0.42 in the prerequisites section,
but in the "Building a Server" section it only talks about downloading
current from CVS.
httpd-2.0.42 and 2.0.43 do contain too old apr-util. If you replace
the old apr-util in 2.0.43 with the current CVS version of apr-util,
you cannot build httpd anymore.
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Re: httpd CVS stability risk: snapshots available?
Posted by Karl Fogel <kf...@newton.ch.collab.net>.
andreas.koenig@anima.de (Andreas J. Koenig) writes:
> Finding the CVS repositories is no problem, the CVS URLs are written
> down in the INSTALL file. But:
>
> Testing for a version that is only available from CVS is something
> completely different than testing for a published version. The CVS
> target is moving and may break any day now.
No, I mean URLs for downloading tarballs. Do we not give those
anywhere? I thought we did, but maybe not.
-K
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Re: httpd CVS stability risk: snapshots available?
Posted by "Andreas J. Koenig" <an...@anima.de>.
>>>>> On 14 Nov 2002 09:12:45 -0600, Karl Fogel <kf...@newton.ch.collab.net> said:
> andreas.koenig@anima.de (Andreas J. Koenig) writes:
>> The dependency on httpd CVS version is a major pain. If things go
>> wrong you never know where to look: any of httpd, apr, apr-util or svn
>> may be the culprit.
>>
>> IMO it would be a good idea if there were a snapshot tarball or
>> several snapshot tarballs representing a stable point that svn
>> developers/users could rely on. Alternatively an SVN repository for
>> these three would also be just as helpful.
>>
>> Does any of such exist?
> Well, we do recommend a particular release of Apache (it's 2.0.42 or
> higher right now). And since revision 3663, we also look for specific
> versions of APR and APR-UTIL.
> Maybe we don't publish these recommended versions prominently enough,
> though; did you have trouble finding them?
Finding the CVS repositories is no problem, the CVS URLs are written
down in the INSTALL file. But:
Testing for a version that is only available from CVS is something
completely different than testing for a published version. The CVS
target is moving and may break any day now.
I did have considerable problems building the svn server today. I had
to tweak several things and recompile several times. It took me hours
and I'm hesitant to write bugreports about these issues because of the
numerous small errors that can happen due to the interdependecies. I
cannot recommend building a server from scratch to anybody right now.
The problem is not finding the CVS versions. The problem is to make
all parts work together and--if it doesn't work--to write bugreports
that are reproducable.
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Re: httpd CVS stability risk: snapshots available?
Posted by Karl Fogel <kf...@newton.ch.collab.net>.
andreas.koenig@anima.de (Andreas J. Koenig) writes:
> The dependency on httpd CVS version is a major pain. If things go
> wrong you never know where to look: any of httpd, apr, apr-util or svn
> may be the culprit.
>
> IMO it would be a good idea if there were a snapshot tarball or
> several snapshot tarballs representing a stable point that svn
> developers/users could rely on. Alternatively an SVN repository for
> these three would also be just as helpful.
>
> Does any of such exist?
Well, we do recommend a particular release of Apache (it's 2.0.42 or
higher right now). And since revision 3663, we also look for specific
versions of APR and APR-UTIL.
Maybe we don't publish these recommended versions prominently enough,
though; did you have trouble finding them?
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