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Posted to general@jakarta.apache.org by robert burrell donkin <ro...@mac.com> on 2002/07/28 21:35:56 UTC
the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange 2000 troubles with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
i wonder whether it'd be possible to add something to the bottom of the
posts (next to the unsubscribe message) to describe the purpose of this
list for people reading via news.
- robert
On Sunday, July 28, 2002, at 02:55 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> Yes. This is an unfortunate side effect (I hinted to this earlier) of
> what I call "the gmane effect". It provides
> those of us who *can't get mail* from apache lists for various reasons
> (such as the indisputable fact that
> Time Warner Cable SUCKS...got that google?), but it also means that
> people can subscribe without realizing
> its a mail list with any rules, topics, etc.
>
> -Andy
>
> George Hester wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the help. The newsgroup is labled gmane.comp.jakarta.general.
>> And
>> why is it I have to run in to someone like you that gives me a link
>> ending in
>> idiot? Why start that? Jesus if you do not want to provide the help I
>> do not
>> need to listen to your name calling. Si et nora!
>>
>> --
>> George Hester
>> _________________________________
>> "Danny Angus" <da...@apache.org> wrote in message
>> news:HKEFKPNPJLANNFPFMDKJMEFPDAAA.danny@apache.org...
>>
>>>> It may look like it is the wrong forum I agree. But it really
>>>> isn't.
>>>>
>>> No no, I think it is, this list is for PM related topics,
>>> project-by-project
>>> technical discussions are hosted elsewhere.
>>>
>>> http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html
>>>
>>> d.
>>>
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RE: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange 2000 troubles with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
This sounds like a good idea, assuming we don't want to blacklist gateways
like this.
> i wonder whether it'd be possible to add something to the bottom of the
> posts (next to the unsubscribe message) to describe the purpose of this
> list for people reading via news.
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Re: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange
2000troubles with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
Posted by John McNally <jm...@collab.net>.
The original response to your question was very polite. You were told
this was the wrong place to ask this question. You were told the
correct place to ask the question. And Robert also made a quick attempt
to provide some insight as to where the problem might be.
It was only after you ignored the recommendation to take your question
to the correct location, stating that you, who have never posted a
message to the list previously, knew that this was the correct location,
that people got irritated.
You were then provided with a pointer to the rules for the lists. It is
my opinion that the file name could be more diplomatic. It is also
available as love.html btw. But nevertheless it does give you an
"official" policy, since you were unwilling to listen to other
responses.
To the jakarata community. Could we give this file a better name like
wronglist.html
and give the reader the benefit of the doubt and start with something
like:
It appears you have managed to post to a mailing list without first
reading the rules. The Apache Jakarta community does not provide
newsgroups, so be aware that if you accessed this community through a
newsgroup or any other means that you are interacting with a mailing
list on the backend. These mailing lists have rules and topics and you
will need to follow them.
Then follow with the current text of idiot.html.
john mcnally
On Mon, 2002-07-29 at 20:58, George Hester wrote:
> What happens is I found this newsserver from Redhat for a question I had about
> Cygwin. It is a very strange newsgroup becuse at the Cygwin newsgroup I noticed
> I was getting mailings to my hotmail accouint but the were not appearing in the
> Newsgroup it self. And I started wondering how all these people knew what was
> going on when it seemed I was emailing to one particular person.
>
> I was stumped. But hey man all I want is to have my question answered
> sufficiently. I do not have the time or the inclination to analyze the
> heirarchy's and protocols going on here. If you have ever subscribed to a
> newsgroup you ought to know that you are not given warnings when you subscribe
> about what is acceptable in the newsgroup.
>
> Now at this Newsserver I do get a email telling me I have to respond to the
> message so that my post is accpted. I do that and I assume that that is all
> that is necessary.
>
> Now I do not plan to go to the Web Mailing for this newsgroup. It is not in a
> form that I like. But I also plan on making damn sure that what I post is
> sufficiently accpetable. I am sorry. I just don't understand why they call
> this newsgroup jakarta.general when general questions are met with such anger?
>
> --
> George Hester
> _________________________________
> "Danny Angus" <da...@apache.org> wrote in message
> news:HKEFKPNPJLANNFPFMDKJAEHCDAAA.danny@apache.org...
> > I found a list with pretty un-informative two/three word descriptions.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Henri Yandell [mailto:bayard@generationjava.com]
> > > Sent: 28 July 2002 21:13
> > > To: Jakarta General List
> > > Subject: Re: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange
> > > 2000troubles with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I went and looked at it, and can people subscribe without realising the
> > > information? gmane don't provide a list of mail lists, they make the user
> > > enter what type of mail list it is and what the mail list address is. To
> > > find this out, doesn't the user have to go through the mail list option on
> > > the website? By which point the user has read the blurb...
> > >
> > > Hen
> > >
> > > On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> > >
> > > > i wonder whether it'd be possible to add something to the bottom of the
> > > > posts (next to the unsubscribe message) to describe the purpose of this
> > > > list for people reading via news.
> > > >
> > > > - robert
> > > >
> > > > On Sunday, July 28, 2002, at 02:55 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yes. This is an unfortunate side effect (I hinted to this earlier) of
> > > > > what I call "the gmane effect". It provides
> > > > > those of us who *can't get mail* from apache lists for various reasons
> > > > > (such as the indisputable fact that
> > > > > Time Warner Cable SUCKS...got that google?), but it also means that
> > > > > people can subscribe without realizing
> > > > > its a mail list with any rules, topics, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Andy
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange 2000troubles with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
Posted by George Hester <he...@hotmail.com>.
Finally a kind word. Thanks.
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______________________________
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> I love you.
>
> You need it.
>
> George Hester wrote:
> > f#ck you all
> >
> > --
> > George Hester
> > ______________________________
> > "Paulo Gaspar" <pa...@krankikom.de> wrote in message
> > news:NEBBJJIICDPIINBNIJHJMENMCHAB.paulo.gaspar@krankikom.de...
> >
> >>He has neither time or inclination to do the right thing but he
> >>sure has loads of time and inclination to write long rants and
> >>also waste everybody else's time.
> >>
> >>I think George is really doing his best to deserve this URL:
> >> http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html
> >>
> >>Have fun,
> >>Paulo
> >>
> >>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Danny Angus [mailto:danny@apache.org]
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:58 AM
> >>>To: Jakarta General List
> >>>Subject: RE: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange
> >>>2000troubles with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I just don't understand
> >>>>why they call
> >>>>this newsgroup jakarta.general when general questions are met
> >>>>with such anger?
> >>>
> >>>1/ It wasn't a general question, it was a Tomcat specific question.
> >>>2/ Once we told you this instead of sending your question to the
> >>>right place
> >>>you started arguing.
> >>>
> >>>d.
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange 2000troubles
with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
I love you.
You need it.
George Hester wrote:
> f#ck you all
>
> --
> George Hester
> ______________________________
> "Paulo Gaspar" <pa...@krankikom.de> wrote in message
> news:NEBBJJIICDPIINBNIJHJMENMCHAB.paulo.gaspar@krankikom.de...
>
>>He has neither time or inclination to do the right thing but he
>>sure has loads of time and inclination to write long rants and
>>also waste everybody else's time.
>>
>>I think George is really doing his best to deserve this URL:
>> http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html
>>
>>Have fun,
>>Paulo
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Danny Angus [mailto:danny@apache.org]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:58 AM
>>>To: Jakarta General List
>>>Subject: RE: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange
>>>2000troubles with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I just don't understand
>>>>why they call
>>>>this newsgroup jakarta.general when general questions are met
>>>>with such anger?
>>>
>>>1/ It wasn't a general question, it was a Tomcat specific question.
>>>2/ Once we told you this instead of sending your question to the
>>>right place
>>>you started arguing.
>>>
>>>d.
>>>
>>>
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Re: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange 2000troubles
with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <an...@superlinksoftware.com>.
eeeewwww.
Paulo Gaspar wrote:
>That feeling is reciprocated.
>
>Have fun,
>Paulo
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: news [mailto:news@main.gmane.org]On Behalf Of George Hester
>>Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 10:34 PM
>>To: general@jakarta.apache.org
>>Subject: Re: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange
>>2000troubles with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
>>
>>
>>f#ck you all
>>
>>--
>>George Hester
>>______________________________
>>"Paulo Gaspar" <pa...@krankikom.de> wrote in message
>>news:NEBBJJIICDPIINBNIJHJMENMCHAB.paulo.gaspar@krankikom.de...
>>
>>
>>>He has neither time or inclination to do the right thing but he
>>>sure has loads of time and inclination to write long rants and
>>>also waste everybody else's time.
>>>
>>>I think George is really doing his best to deserve this URL:
>>> http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html
>>>
>>>Have fun,
>>>Paulo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Danny Angus [mailto:danny@apache.org]
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:58 AM
>>>>To: Jakarta General List
>>>>Subject: RE: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange
>>>>2000troubles with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I just don't understand
>>>>>why they call
>>>>>this newsgroup jakarta.general when general questions are met
>>>>>with such anger?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>1/ It wasn't a general question, it was a Tomcat specific question.
>>>>2/ Once we told you this instead of sending your question to the
>>>>right place
>>>>you started arguing.
>>>>
>>>>d.
>>>>
>>>>
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RE: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange 2000troubles with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
Posted by Paulo Gaspar <pa...@krankikom.de>.
That feeling is reciprocated.
Have fun,
Paulo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: news [mailto:news@main.gmane.org]On Behalf Of George Hester
> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 10:34 PM
> To: general@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Re: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange
> 2000troubles with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
>
>
> f#ck you all
>
> --
> George Hester
> ______________________________
> "Paulo Gaspar" <pa...@krankikom.de> wrote in message
> news:NEBBJJIICDPIINBNIJHJMENMCHAB.paulo.gaspar@krankikom.de...
> > He has neither time or inclination to do the right thing but he
> > sure has loads of time and inclination to write long rants and
> > also waste everybody else's time.
> >
> > I think George is really doing his best to deserve this URL:
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html
> >
> > Have fun,
> > Paulo
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Danny Angus [mailto:danny@apache.org]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:58 AM
> > > To: Jakarta General List
> > > Subject: RE: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange
> > > 2000troubles with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
> > >
> > >
> > > > I just don't understand
> > > > why they call
> > > > this newsgroup jakarta.general when general questions are met
> > > > with such anger?
> > >
> > > 1/ It wasn't a general question, it was a Tomcat specific question.
> > > 2/ Once we told you this instead of sending your question to the
> > > right place
> > > you started arguing.
> > >
> > > d.
> > >
> > >
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Re: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange 2000troubles with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
Posted by George Hester <he...@hotmail.com>.
f#ck you all
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______________________________
"Paulo Gaspar" <pa...@krankikom.de> wrote in message
news:NEBBJJIICDPIINBNIJHJMENMCHAB.paulo.gaspar@krankikom.de...
> He has neither time or inclination to do the right thing but he
> sure has loads of time and inclination to write long rants and
> also waste everybody else's time.
>
> I think George is really doing his best to deserve this URL:
> http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html
>
> Have fun,
> Paulo
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Danny Angus [mailto:danny@apache.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:58 AM
> > To: Jakarta General List
> > Subject: RE: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange
> > 2000troubles with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
> >
> >
> > > I just don't understand
> > > why they call
> > > this newsgroup jakarta.general when general questions are met
> > > with such anger?
> >
> > 1/ It wasn't a general question, it was a Tomcat specific question.
> > 2/ Once we told you this instead of sending your question to the
> > right place
> > you started arguing.
> >
> > d.
> >
> >
> > --
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<ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
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RE: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange 2000troubles with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
Posted by Paulo Gaspar <pa...@krankikom.de>.
He has neither time or inclination to do the right thing but he
sure has loads of time and inclination to write long rants and
also waste everybody else's time.
I think George is really doing his best to deserve this URL:
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html
Have fun,
Paulo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Danny Angus [mailto:danny@apache.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:58 AM
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: RE: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange
> 2000troubles with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
>
>
> > I just don't understand
> > why they call
> > this newsgroup jakarta.general when general questions are met
> > with such anger?
>
> 1/ It wasn't a general question, it was a Tomcat specific question.
> 2/ Once we told you this instead of sending your question to the
> right place
> you started arguing.
>
> d.
>
>
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RE: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange 2000troubles with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
> I just don't understand
> why they call
> this newsgroup jakarta.general when general questions are met
> with such anger?
1/ It wasn't a general question, it was a Tomcat specific question.
2/ Once we told you this instead of sending your question to the right place
you started arguing.
d.
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Re: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange 2000troubles with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
Posted by George Hester <he...@hotmail.com>.
What happens is I found this newsserver from Redhat for a question I had about
Cygwin. It is a very strange newsgroup becuse at the Cygwin newsgroup I noticed
I was getting mailings to my hotmail accouint but the were not appearing in the
Newsgroup it self. And I started wondering how all these people knew what was
going on when it seemed I was emailing to one particular person.
I was stumped. But hey man all I want is to have my question answered
sufficiently. I do not have the time or the inclination to analyze the
heirarchy's and protocols going on here. If you have ever subscribed to a
newsgroup you ought to know that you are not given warnings when you subscribe
about what is acceptable in the newsgroup.
Now at this Newsserver I do get a email telling me I have to respond to the
message so that my post is accpted. I do that and I assume that that is all
that is necessary.
Now I do not plan to go to the Web Mailing for this newsgroup. It is not in a
form that I like. But I also plan on making damn sure that what I post is
sufficiently accpetable. I am sorry. I just don't understand why they call
this newsgroup jakarta.general when general questions are met with such anger?
--
George Hester
_________________________________
"Danny Angus" <da...@apache.org> wrote in message
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> I found a list with pretty un-informative two/three word descriptions.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Henri Yandell [mailto:bayard@generationjava.com]
> > Sent: 28 July 2002 21:13
> > To: Jakarta General List
> > Subject: Re: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange
> > 2000troubles with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
> >
> >
> >
> > I went and looked at it, and can people subscribe without realising the
> > information? gmane don't provide a list of mail lists, they make the user
> > enter what type of mail list it is and what the mail list address is. To
> > find this out, doesn't the user have to go through the mail list option on
> > the website? By which point the user has read the blurb...
> >
> > Hen
> >
> > On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> >
> > > i wonder whether it'd be possible to add something to the bottom of the
> > > posts (next to the unsubscribe message) to describe the purpose of this
> > > list for people reading via news.
> > >
> > > - robert
> > >
> > > On Sunday, July 28, 2002, at 02:55 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes. This is an unfortunate side effect (I hinted to this earlier) of
> > > > what I call "the gmane effect". It provides
> > > > those of us who *can't get mail* from apache lists for various reasons
> > > > (such as the indisputable fact that
> > > > Time Warner Cable SUCKS...got that google?), but it also means that
> > > > people can subscribe without realizing
> > > > its a mail list with any rules, topics, etc.
> > > >
> > > > -Andy
> > > >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > For additional commands, e-mail: <ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
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RE: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange 2000troubles with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
I found a list with pretty un-informative two/three word descriptions.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henri Yandell [mailto:bayard@generationjava.com]
> Sent: 28 July 2002 21:13
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: Re: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange
> 2000troubles with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
>
>
>
> I went and looked at it, and can people subscribe without realising the
> information? gmane don't provide a list of mail lists, they make the user
> enter what type of mail list it is and what the mail list address is. To
> find this out, doesn't the user have to go through the mail list option on
> the website? By which point the user has read the blurb...
>
> Hen
>
> On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, robert burrell donkin wrote:
>
> > i wonder whether it'd be possible to add something to the bottom of the
> > posts (next to the unsubscribe message) to describe the purpose of this
> > list for people reading via news.
> >
> > - robert
> >
> > On Sunday, July 28, 2002, at 02:55 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> >
> > > Yes. This is an unfortunate side effect (I hinted to this earlier) of
> > > what I call "the gmane effect". It provides
> > > those of us who *can't get mail* from apache lists for various reasons
> > > (such as the indisputable fact that
> > > Time Warner Cable SUCKS...got that google?), but it also means that
> > > people can subscribe without realizing
> > > its a mail list with any rules, topics, etc.
> > >
> > > -Andy
> > >
>
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Re: the gmane effect [WAS Re: Has anyone noticed Exchange 2000
troubles with JRun 4 also Tomacat 4.0.1 installed?]
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
I went and looked at it, and can people subscribe without realising the
information? gmane don't provide a list of mail lists, they make the user
enter what type of mail list it is and what the mail list address is. To
find this out, doesn't the user have to go through the mail list option on
the website? By which point the user has read the blurb...
Hen
On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> i wonder whether it'd be possible to add something to the bottom of the
> posts (next to the unsubscribe message) to describe the purpose of this
> list for people reading via news.
>
> - robert
>
> On Sunday, July 28, 2002, at 02:55 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>
> > Yes. This is an unfortunate side effect (I hinted to this earlier) of
> > what I call "the gmane effect". It provides
> > those of us who *can't get mail* from apache lists for various reasons
> > (such as the indisputable fact that
> > Time Warner Cable SUCKS...got that google?), but it also means that
> > people can subscribe without realizing
> > its a mail list with any rules, topics, etc.
> >
> > -Andy
> >
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