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Ojdbc7 dependency issue
Hi,
I'm Niyaz. I'm from Azerbaijan. I'm a Senior Software Engineer in PASHA Bank
<https://pashabank.az> - the top corporate bank in Azerbaijan. We are using
Oracle as our core database system. For local projects, we're using ojdbc7
as a driver. We always facing with ojdbc7 dependency problem which is not
available in your repo. We're trying to solve this issue by other several
unsuccessful ways.
I'm asking you can you please add ojdbc7 (12.1.0.1, 12.1.0.2) driver to
your repository?
Best regards,
Niyaz Abbasov
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Re: Ojdbc7 dependency issue
Posted by Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>.
You need to talk to Oracle about this. They do not upload the artifacts and the license does not allow it.
There is btw a WebLogic Repository at Oracle which does contain the driver (under a rather strange coordinate).
Since you must run your own Repository anyway to have reliable and repeatable builds you would normally just upload the driver there.
Gruss
Bernd
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Von: Paul Hammant <pa...@hammant.org>
Gesendet: Samstag, März 16, 2019 3:20 PM
An: Maven Developers List
Betreff: Re: Ojdbc7 dependency issue
Does 'central' need to be immutable though? Feels like an arbitrary policy
to me. Or should there be workflows to remove items from there, and replace
with a 302? While that could be to repos elswhere, they could also be to
HTML pages with mvn.exe handling that and communicating that clearly in the
build log.
Some ten years ago a mal-configured WebSense at an airline was flling a
corporate Maven cache jars and poms suffixes that were actually HTML error
pages. Maven choked silently then and I'm not sure it has ever been fixed.
In a quick test now, if I do "ls > ~/.m2/repository/foo/bar/baz.pom" (and
jar), the build fails with a proximate cause message. The jars and poms are
not checked again for correctness once in the cache. Anyway the jar/pom
ingesting side of Maven could easily handle deprecation, obsolesence and
outright deletion better than it does.
Re: Ojdbc7 dependency issue
Posted by Paul Hammant <pa...@hammant.org>.
Does 'central' need to be immutable though? Feels like an arbitrary policy
to me. Or should there be workflows to remove items from there, and replace
with a 302? While that could be to repos elswhere, they could also be to
HTML pages with mvn.exe handling that and communicating that clearly in the
build log.
Some ten years ago a mal-configured WebSense at an airline was flling a
corporate Maven cache jars and poms suffixes that were actually HTML error
pages. Maven choked silently then and I'm not sure it has ever been fixed.
In a quick test now, if I do "ls > ~/.m2/repository/foo/bar/baz.pom" (and
jar), the build fails with a proximate cause message. The jars and poms are
not checked again for correctness once in the cache. Anyway the jar/pom
ingesting side of Maven could easily handle deprecation, obsolesence and
outright deletion better than it does.
Re: Ojdbc7 dependency issue
Posted by Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org>.
Am 2019-03-16 um 13:59 schrieb Karl Heinz Marbaise:
> Hi Paul,
>
> On 16.03.19 13:13, Paul Hammant wrote:
>> It is probably up to Oracle (not Apache) as to what is uploaded into
>> Maven
>> Central - https://mvnrepository.com/search?q=ojdbc7
>>
>> It could be that they have decided to not upload artifacts - "Last
>> Release
>> on Oct 30, 2017" - anymore.
>>
>
> If you take a deeper look into that:
>
> The link you gave:
> https://mvnrepository.com/search?q=ojdbc7
This looks illegal to me. I am quite certain that Oracle's license of
the driver forbid this.
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Re: Ojdbc7 dependency issue
Posted by Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>.
Hi Paul,
On 16.03.19 13:13, Paul Hammant wrote:
> It is probably up to Oracle (not Apache) as to what is uploaded into Maven
> Central - https://mvnrepository.com/search?q=ojdbc7
>
> It could be that they have decided to not upload artifacts - "Last Release
> on Oct 30, 2017" - anymore.
>
If you take a deeper look into that:
The link you gave:
https://mvnrepository.com/search?q=ojdbc7
References to a repository
http://nexus.saas.hand-china.com/content/repositories/rdc/
where I have my doubts that this is correct (based on the license)
Furthermore in Central repositoy you will find some artifacts which I
suppose have been uploaded not correctly:
https://search.maven.org/search?q=ojdbc7
But they will not removed. (Immuteability principle).
Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise
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Re: Ojdbc7 dependency issue
Posted by Laird Nelson <lj...@gmail.com>.
To use Oracle artifacts, see here:
https://docs.oracle.com/middleware/1213/core/MAVEN/config_maven_repo.htm#MAVEN9010
Best,
Laird
On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 5:13 AM Paul Hammant <pa...@hammant.org> wrote:
> It is probably up to Oracle (not Apache) as to what is uploaded into Maven
> Central - https://mvnrepository.com/search?q=ojdbc7
>
> It could be that they have decided to not upload artifacts - "Last Release
> on Oct 30, 2017" - anymore.
>
Re: Ojdbc7 dependency issue
Posted by Paul Hammant <pa...@hammant.org>.
It is probably up to Oracle (not Apache) as to what is uploaded into Maven
Central - https://mvnrepository.com/search?q=ojdbc7
It could be that they have decided to not upload artifacts - "Last Release
on Oct 30, 2017" - anymore.
Re: Ojdbc7 dependency issue
Posted by Anders Hammar <an...@hammar.net>.
This should have been posted to the users list, not the dev list.
As adding artifact manually to an internal repo manager is a maintenance
nightmare, I'd like to stress that Oracle does provide a Maven repository
which can be proxied instead (with a repo manager). More info here:
https://docs.oracle.com/middleware/1213/core/MAVEN/config_maven_repo.htm#MAVEN9010
Still, you do need to accept the Oracle licens but you will do that by
creating an account for the Maven repo.
/Anders
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 11:11 AM Niyaz Abbasov <ab...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Karl,
>
> Firstly, thank you very much for quick response.
>
> After sending you this email I surfed in forums and found that it's related
> with Oracle licenses.
>
> Your answer was very helpful and with understandable clarifyings.
>
> Thank you very much!
>
>
> Best regards,
> Niyaz Abbasov
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 16:04 Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > this is a question related to the usage of Maven or better of Central
> > repository which should be asked on the users list instead of the Dev
> list.
> >
> > Apart from that:
> >
> > The ojdbc drivers are from Oracle and will never be added to the central
> > repositories based on License restrictions of Oracle.
> >
> > The only clean solution is to have a repository manager in your company
> > and upload them into your repository manager. This requires to download
> > them from Oracle and acknowledge the Licesne of Oracle from your side.
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Karl Heinz Marbaise
> >
> > On 15.03.19 11:41, Niyaz Abbasov wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm Niyaz. I'm from Azerbaijan. I'm a Senior Software Engineer in PASHA
> > Bank
> > > <https://pashabank.az> - the top corporate bank in Azerbaijan. We are
> > using
> > > Oracle as our core database system. For local projects, we're using
> > ojdbc7
> > > as a driver. We always facing with ojdbc7 dependency problem which is
> not
> > > available in your repo. We're trying to solve this issue by other
> several
> > > unsuccessful ways.
> > >
> > > I'm asking you can you please add ojdbc7 (12.1.0.1, 12.1.0.2) driver to
> > > your repository?
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Niyaz Abbasov
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Ojdbc7 dependency issue
Posted by Niyaz Abbasov <ab...@gmail.com>.
Hi Karl,
Firstly, thank you very much for quick response.
After sending you this email I surfed in forums and found that it's related
with Oracle licenses.
Your answer was very helpful and with understandable clarifyings.
Thank you very much!
Best regards,
Niyaz Abbasov
On Sat, Mar 16, 2019, 16:04 Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> this is a question related to the usage of Maven or better of Central
> repository which should be asked on the users list instead of the Dev list.
>
> Apart from that:
>
> The ojdbc drivers are from Oracle and will never be added to the central
> repositories based on License restrictions of Oracle.
>
> The only clean solution is to have a repository manager in your company
> and upload them into your repository manager. This requires to download
> them from Oracle and acknowledge the Licesne of Oracle from your side.
>
> Kind regards
> Karl Heinz Marbaise
>
> On 15.03.19 11:41, Niyaz Abbasov wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm Niyaz. I'm from Azerbaijan. I'm a Senior Software Engineer in PASHA
> Bank
> > <https://pashabank.az> - the top corporate bank in Azerbaijan. We are
> using
> > Oracle as our core database system. For local projects, we're using
> ojdbc7
> > as a driver. We always facing with ojdbc7 dependency problem which is not
> > available in your repo. We're trying to solve this issue by other several
> > unsuccessful ways.
> >
> > I'm asking you can you please add ojdbc7 (12.1.0.1, 12.1.0.2) driver to
> > your repository?
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Niyaz Abbasov
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: Ojdbc7 dependency issue
Posted by Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>.
Hi,
this is a question related to the usage of Maven or better of Central
repository which should be asked on the users list instead of the Dev list.
Apart from that:
The ojdbc drivers are from Oracle and will never be added to the central
repositories based on License restrictions of Oracle.
The only clean solution is to have a repository manager in your company
and upload them into your repository manager. This requires to download
them from Oracle and acknowledge the Licesne of Oracle from your side.
Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise
On 15.03.19 11:41, Niyaz Abbasov wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm Niyaz. I'm from Azerbaijan. I'm a Senior Software Engineer in PASHA Bank
> <https://pashabank.az> - the top corporate bank in Azerbaijan. We are using
> Oracle as our core database system. For local projects, we're using ojdbc7
> as a driver. We always facing with ojdbc7 dependency problem which is not
> available in your repo. We're trying to solve this issue by other several
> unsuccessful ways.
>
> I'm asking you can you please add ojdbc7 (12.1.0.1, 12.1.0.2) driver to
> your repository?
>
>
> Best regards,
> Niyaz Abbasov
>
>
>
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Re: Ojdbc7 dependency issue
Posted by Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org>.
Am 2019-03-15 um 11:41 schrieb Niyaz Abbasov:
> Hi,
>
> I'm Niyaz. I'm from Azerbaijan. I'm a Senior Software Engineer in PASHA Bank
> <https://pashabank.az> - the top corporate bank in Azerbaijan. We are using
> Oracle as our core database system. For local projects, we're using ojdbc7
> as a driver. We always facing with ojdbc7 dependency problem which is not
> available in your repo. We're trying to solve this issue by other several
> unsuccessful ways.
>
> I'm asking you can you please add ojdbc7 (12.1.0.1, 12.1.0.2) driver to
> your repository?
Salam Niyaz,
as recommended by others, set up a repo manager like Nexus, create a
repo 'pasha-bank-thirdparty' and upload all Oracle-related JARs there.
Add that repo to your repo group and you are done. This is what I have
been doing for years at work.
Best greetings to my old home Baku,
Michael
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