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Is there any way to convert help content to ODF or word document?
Hi all
Is there any way to convert help content to ODF or word document?
Best regards.
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Aron
Re: Is there any way to convert help content to ODF or word document?
Posted by JZA <ac...@gmail.com>.
We (OpenOffice) already translate all the Help documentation into many
languages:
https://translate.apache.org/projects/aoo40help/
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:26 AM, aronsoyol <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for your kind reply.
>
> My final purpose is that convert the complied and translated(may be any
> language) help contents to an single editable document such as ODF or WORD
> or any other format.
> So in your opinion, what is the easiest way to do this?
>
> Thank you and best regards.
>
> 2015-07-22 12:54 GMT+09:00 JZA <ac...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Here is on the source tree for Writer:
> >
> >
> http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/helpcontent2/source/text/swriter/
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:52 PM, JZA <ac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On download page you will see a link for source code, download the zip,
> > > open it and look for the Helpcontent2 folder.
> > > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Helpcontent2
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:41 PM, aronsoyol <ar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thank you ,but
> > >> >
> > >> > If you are tlaking about the AOO helpfiles, they are simply HTML.
> > >>
> > >> I am so sorry, I am so silly to find where those html files are,.
> Could
> > >> you
> > >> please tell me the actual paths?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2015-07-22 11:52 GMT+09:00 JZA <ac...@gmail.com>:
> > >>
> > >> > If you are tlaking about the AOO helpfiles, they are simply HTML,
> sure
> > >> you
> > >> > can download the files from the source code as-is.
> > >> >
> > >> > But I dont think there is an ODF of the helpfiles, there is so much
> > >> other
> > >> > documentation that is on ODF already. Might have better luck reading
> > >> that.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 9:45 PM, aronsoyol <ar...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi all
> > >> > > Is there any way to convert help content to ODF or word
> document?
> > >> > > Best regards.
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Aron
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Alexandro Colorado
> > >> > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> > >> > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Aron
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Alexandro Colorado
> > > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> > > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Alexandro Colorado
> > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Aron
>
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Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributor
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Re: Is there any way to convert help content to ODF or word document?
Posted by aronsoyol <ar...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for your kind reply.
My final purpose is that convert the complied and translated(may be any
language) help contents to an single editable document such as ODF or WORD
or any other format.
So in your opinion, what is the easiest way to do this?
Thank you and best regards.
2015-07-22 12:54 GMT+09:00 JZA <ac...@gmail.com>:
> Here is on the source tree for Writer:
>
> http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/helpcontent2/source/text/swriter/
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:52 PM, JZA <ac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On download page you will see a link for source code, download the zip,
> > open it and look for the Helpcontent2 folder.
> > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Helpcontent2
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:41 PM, aronsoyol <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Thank you ,but
> >> >
> >> > If you are tlaking about the AOO helpfiles, they are simply HTML.
> >>
> >> I am so sorry, I am so silly to find where those html files are,. Could
> >> you
> >> please tell me the actual paths?
> >>
> >>
> >> 2015-07-22 11:52 GMT+09:00 JZA <ac...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> > If you are tlaking about the AOO helpfiles, they are simply HTML, sure
> >> you
> >> > can download the files from the source code as-is.
> >> >
> >> > But I dont think there is an ODF of the helpfiles, there is so much
> >> other
> >> > documentation that is on ODF already. Might have better luck reading
> >> that.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 9:45 PM, aronsoyol <ar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi all
> >> > > Is there any way to convert help content to ODF or word document?
> >> > > Best regards.
> >> > > --
> >> > > Aron
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Alexandro Colorado
> >> > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> >> > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Aron
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Alexandro Colorado
> > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
>
--
Aron
Re: Is there any way to convert help content to ODF or word document?
Posted by JZA <ac...@gmail.com>.
Here is on the source tree for Writer:
http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/helpcontent2/source/text/swriter/
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:52 PM, JZA <ac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On download page you will see a link for source code, download the zip,
> open it and look for the Helpcontent2 folder.
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Helpcontent2
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:41 PM, aronsoyol <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you ,but
>> >
>> > If you are tlaking about the AOO helpfiles, they are simply HTML.
>>
>> I am so sorry, I am so silly to find where those html files are,. Could
>> you
>> please tell me the actual paths?
>>
>>
>> 2015-07-22 11:52 GMT+09:00 JZA <ac...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> > If you are tlaking about the AOO helpfiles, they are simply HTML, sure
>> you
>> > can download the files from the source code as-is.
>> >
>> > But I dont think there is an ODF of the helpfiles, there is so much
>> other
>> > documentation that is on ODF already. Might have better luck reading
>> that.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 9:45 PM, aronsoyol <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi all
>> > > Is there any way to convert help content to ODF or word document?
>> > > Best regards.
>> > > --
>> > > Aron
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Alexandro Colorado
>> > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
>> > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Aron
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
>
--
Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributor
882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Is there any way to convert help content to ODF or word document?
Posted by JZA <ac...@gmail.com>.
On download page you will see a link for source code, download the zip,
open it and look for the Helpcontent2 folder.
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Helpcontent2
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:41 PM, aronsoyol <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you ,but
> >
> > If you are tlaking about the AOO helpfiles, they are simply HTML.
>
> I am so sorry, I am so silly to find where those html files are,. Could you
> please tell me the actual paths?
>
>
> 2015-07-22 11:52 GMT+09:00 JZA <ac...@gmail.com>:
>
> > If you are tlaking about the AOO helpfiles, they are simply HTML, sure
> you
> > can download the files from the source code as-is.
> >
> > But I dont think there is an ODF of the helpfiles, there is so much other
> > documentation that is on ODF already. Might have better luck reading
> that.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 9:45 PM, aronsoyol <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all
> > > Is there any way to convert help content to ODF or word document?
> > > Best regards.
> > > --
> > > Aron
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Alexandro Colorado
> > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Aron
>
--
Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributor
882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Is there any way to convert help content to ODF or word document?
Posted by aronsoyol <ar...@gmail.com>.
Thank you ,but
>
> If you are tlaking about the AOO helpfiles, they are simply HTML.
I am so sorry, I am so silly to find where those html files are,. Could you
please tell me the actual paths?
2015-07-22 11:52 GMT+09:00 JZA <ac...@gmail.com>:
> If you are tlaking about the AOO helpfiles, they are simply HTML, sure you
> can download the files from the source code as-is.
>
> But I dont think there is an ODF of the helpfiles, there is so much other
> documentation that is on ODF already. Might have better luck reading that.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 9:45 PM, aronsoyol <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> > Is there any way to convert help content to ODF or word document?
> > Best regards.
> > --
> > Aron
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
>
--
Aron
Re: Is there any way to convert help content to ODF or word document?
Posted by JZA <ac...@gmail.com>.
If you are tlaking about the AOO helpfiles, they are simply HTML, sure you
can download the files from the source code as-is.
But I dont think there is an ODF of the helpfiles, there is so much other
documentation that is on ODF already. Might have better luck reading that.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 9:45 PM, aronsoyol <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all
> Is there any way to convert help content to ODF or word document?
> Best regards.
> --
> Aron
>
--
Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributor
882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Is there any way to convert help content to ODF or word document?
Posted by aronsoyol <ar...@gmail.com>.
Thank you very much
2015-07-23 20:41 GMT+09:00 Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>:
> Hi Aron,
>
> aronsoyol schrieb:
>
>> Thank you
>>
>>
>> My question is, why do you want such document?
>>>
>>
>> Because user want an independent manual(or guide book). Like this
>> https://www.openoffice.org/support/books.html
>>
>> But those books in amazon are 1,not translated 2,may be licensed 3.not
>> editable (we did some hack,and we need to explain what is different from
>> original openoffice) , 4. not correspond to newest version of OpenOffice.
>>
>> So I think it is probably good to just convert help contents to an
>> editable
>> document. Or is there any easiest way else to do this work?
>>
>> Thank you very much and best regards.
>>
>
> If you accept to work under Creative Common Attribution 3.0 license
> (CC-BY) [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/], then you can start
> with those tutorials provided by ODF Authors [http://www.odfauthors.org/]
>
> The latest version for OOo is on
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/OOo3.3_Chapters_ODT.
> But that is without sidebar.
>
> You should look at the versions for LibreOffice too. [
> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/] There are differences
> to Apache OpenOffice and you will need to adjust it, but it might be faster
> than starting from scratch.
>
> If you will provide one book, then "Getting Started" will be suitable.
>
> Which is the target language? Perhaps there exists already some
> translations. Have a look at http://www.libreoffice.org/community/nlc/
>
>
> Kind regards
> Regina
>
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Re: Is there any way to convert help content to ODF or word document?
Posted by Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>.
Hi Aron,
aronsoyol schrieb:
> Thank you
>
>
>> My question is, why do you want such document?
>
> Because user want an independent manual(or guide book). Like this
> https://www.openoffice.org/support/books.html
>
> But those books in amazon are 1,not translated 2,may be licensed 3.not
> editable (we did some hack,and we need to explain what is different from
> original openoffice) , 4. not correspond to newest version of OpenOffice.
>
> So I think it is probably good to just convert help contents to an editable
> document. Or is there any easiest way else to do this work?
>
> Thank you very much and best regards.
If you accept to work under Creative Common Attribution 3.0 license
(CC-BY) [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/], then you can
start with those tutorials provided by ODF Authors
[http://www.odfauthors.org/]
The latest version for OOo is on
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/OOo3.3_Chapters_ODT.
But that is without sidebar.
You should look at the versions for LibreOffice too.
[http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/] There are
differences to Apache OpenOffice and you will need to adjust it, but it
might be faster than starting from scratch.
If you will provide one book, then "Getting Started" will be suitable.
Which is the target language? Perhaps there exists already some
translations. Have a look at http://www.libreoffice.org/community/nlc/
Kind regards
Regina
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Re: Is there any way to convert help content to ODF or word document?
Posted by aronsoyol <ar...@gmail.com>.
Thank you
> My question is, why do you want such document?
Because user want an independent manual(or guide book). Like this
https://www.openoffice.org/support/books.html
But those books in amazon are 1,not translated 2,may be licensed 3.not
editable (we did some hack,and we need to explain what is different from
original openoffice) , 4. not correspond to newest version of OpenOffice.
So I think it is probably good to just convert help contents to an editable
document. Or is there any easiest way else to do this work?
Thank you very much and best regards.
2015-07-22 20:42 GMT+09:00 Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>:
> Hi,
>
> aronsoyol schrieb:
>
>> Hi all
>> Is there any way to convert help content to ODF or word document?
>> Best regards.
>>
>>
> You can do it, but it makes no sense.
>
> The help files are written in XML, file name extension is xhp. You find
> these files in the *.jar archives in the folder "help" in an installed AOO.
> For the in-build help viewer they are transformed to HTML by the
> transformation "main_transform.xsl" and styled by "default.css". You can
> look at the result of this, when you call the help, e.g. via F1, and choose
> "HTML source" from the context menu.
>
> The help is not organized as a lot of independent files, but it is more
> like a building set. Some parts are embedded in several pages, some parts
> are only shown under special conditions, some parts are not shown directly
> in the help, but only as tooltip. Contents and Index are no special files,
> but generated.
>
> The help is context sensitive. If you are working on a special function in
> Calc, calling the help will show the information about this special
> function, for example.
>
> For all these reasons, it makes no sense to collect all these files into
> one document.
>
> My question is, why do you want such document?
>
> Kind regards
> Regina
>
>
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Aron
Re: Is there any way to convert help content to ODF or word document?
Posted by Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>.
Hi,
aronsoyol schrieb:
> Hi all
> Is there any way to convert help content to ODF or word document?
> Best regards.
>
You can do it, but it makes no sense.
The help files are written in XML, file name extension is xhp. You find
these files in the *.jar archives in the folder "help" in an installed
AOO. For the in-build help viewer they are transformed to HTML by the
transformation "main_transform.xsl" and styled by "default.css". You can
look at the result of this, when you call the help, e.g. via F1, and
choose "HTML source" from the context menu.
The help is not organized as a lot of independent files, but it is more
like a building set. Some parts are embedded in several pages, some
parts are only shown under special conditions, some parts are not shown
directly in the help, but only as tooltip. Contents and Index are no
special files, but generated.
The help is context sensitive. If you are working on a special function
in Calc, calling the help will show the information about this special
function, for example.
For all these reasons, it makes no sense to collect all these files into
one document.
My question is, why do you want such document?
Kind regards
Regina
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