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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> on 2015/02/03 22:57:29 UTC
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Streams 0.1-incubating release
This release announcement does not contain the required DISCLAIMER
necessary for all incubating projects.
Please see:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Steve Blackmon <sb...@apache.org>
wrote:
> I'm pleased to announce immediate availability of streams 0.1-incubating.
>
> Download links to the source code zip, md5, and asc are available from
> http://streams.incubator.apache.org.
>
> Steve Blackmon
> sblackmon@apache.org
>
>
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Streams 0.1-incubating release
Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
A google search of incubator release announcements
("site:mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general announce
incubating") reveals that only about 1/3 of them have the disclaimer.
So, neither policy nor practice are clear. I have logged
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-129 to clarify the
documentation of the policy.
Julian
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Joe Witt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Steve,
>
> I was under the impression that the comment was about the release itself
> (not the announcement). Only guidance I have found regarding the
> announcement itself is:
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#announcements It
> does contain a few TODOs though so there is likely some important
> information not provided there yet.
>
> Thanks
> Joe
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Steve Blackmon <sb...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Greg, Joe,
>>
>> I scanned both of those links and could not locate specific instructions
>> regarding the text of a release announcement.
>>
>> My streams announcement from earlier today would have been in compliance
>> if:
>> a) a short description of the project was included in the body
>> b) the project-specific incubator disclaimer (below) was included in the
>> body
>>
>> True or False?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Steve Blackmon
>> sblackmon@apache.org
>>
>> -----
>>
>> Disclaimer
>>
>> Apache Streams is an effort undergoing incubation at The Apache Software
>> Foundation (ASF) sponsored by the Apache Incubator PMC. Incubation is
>> required of all newly accepted projects until a further review indicates
>> that the infrastructure, communications, and decision making process have
>> stabilized in a manner consistent with other successful ASF projects. While
>> incubation status is not necessarily a reflection of the completeness or
>> stability of the code, it does indicate that the project has yet to be
>> fully endorsed by the ASF.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Joe Witt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Julian
>> >
>> > Take a look here:
>> >
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#notes-disclaimer
>> >
>> > Also in the checklist for things to validate
>> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#check-list It
>> > calls out the disclaimer.
>> >
>> > As a rep from a project that just finally cracked through on our first
>> > release - very much understand what you're thinking right now. Just
>> stick
>> > with it.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Joe
>> >
>> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > The "Disclaimers" section at
>> > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html says that the web
>> site,
>> > > documentation and releases should include a disclaimer. It does not say
>> > > that the release announcement should include a disclaimer.
>> > >
>> > > Can someone please clarify?
>> > >
>> > > Julian
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Feb 3, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > This release announcement does not contain the required DISCLAIMER
>> > > necessary for all incubating projects.
>> > >
>> > > Please see:
>> > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Steve Blackmon <sb...@apache.org>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I'm pleased to announce immediate availability of streams
>> 0.1-incubating.
>> > >
>> > > Download links to the source code zip, md5, and asc are available from
>> > > http://streams.incubator.apache.org.
>> > >
>> > > Steve Blackmon
>> > > sblackmon@apache.org
>> > >
>> >
>>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Streams 0.1-incubating release
Posted by Joe Witt <jo...@gmail.com>.
Steve,
I was under the impression that the comment was about the release itself
(not the announcement). Only guidance I have found regarding the
announcement itself is:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#announcements It
does contain a few TODOs though so there is likely some important
information not provided there yet.
Thanks
Joe
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Steve Blackmon <sb...@apache.org> wrote:
> Greg, Joe,
>
> I scanned both of those links and could not locate specific instructions
> regarding the text of a release announcement.
>
> My streams announcement from earlier today would have been in compliance
> if:
> a) a short description of the project was included in the body
> b) the project-specific incubator disclaimer (below) was included in the
> body
>
> True or False?
>
> Thanks,
> Steve Blackmon
> sblackmon@apache.org
>
> -----
>
> Disclaimer
>
> Apache Streams is an effort undergoing incubation at The Apache Software
> Foundation (ASF) sponsored by the Apache Incubator PMC. Incubation is
> required of all newly accepted projects until a further review indicates
> that the infrastructure, communications, and decision making process have
> stabilized in a manner consistent with other successful ASF projects. While
> incubation status is not necessarily a reflection of the completeness or
> stability of the code, it does indicate that the project has yet to be
> fully endorsed by the ASF.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Joe Witt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Julian
> >
> > Take a look here:
> >
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#notes-disclaimer
> >
> > Also in the checklist for things to validate
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#check-list It
> > calls out the disclaimer.
> >
> > As a rep from a project that just finally cracked through on our first
> > release - very much understand what you're thinking right now. Just
> stick
> > with it.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Joe
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > The "Disclaimers" section at
> > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html says that the web
> site,
> > > documentation and releases should include a disclaimer. It does not say
> > > that the release announcement should include a disclaimer.
> > >
> > > Can someone please clarify?
> > >
> > > Julian
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb 3, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > This release announcement does not contain the required DISCLAIMER
> > > necessary for all incubating projects.
> > >
> > > Please see:
> > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Steve Blackmon <sb...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm pleased to announce immediate availability of streams
> 0.1-incubating.
> > >
> > > Download links to the source code zip, md5, and asc are available from
> > > http://streams.incubator.apache.org.
> > >
> > > Steve Blackmon
> > > sblackmon@apache.org
> > >
> >
>
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Streams 0.1-incubating release
Posted by Steve Blackmon <sb...@apache.org>.
Greg, Joe,
I scanned both of those links and could not locate specific instructions
regarding the text of a release announcement.
My streams announcement from earlier today would have been in compliance if:
a) a short description of the project was included in the body
b) the project-specific incubator disclaimer (below) was included in the
body
True or False?
Thanks,
Steve Blackmon
sblackmon@apache.org
-----
Disclaimer
Apache Streams is an effort undergoing incubation at The Apache Software
Foundation (ASF) sponsored by the Apache Incubator PMC. Incubation is
required of all newly accepted projects until a further review indicates
that the infrastructure, communications, and decision making process have
stabilized in a manner consistent with other successful ASF projects. While
incubation status is not necessarily a reflection of the completeness or
stability of the code, it does indicate that the project has yet to be
fully endorsed by the ASF.
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Joe Witt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Julian
>
> Take a look here:
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#notes-disclaimer
>
> Also in the checklist for things to validate
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#check-list It
> calls out the disclaimer.
>
> As a rep from a project that just finally cracked through on our first
> release - very much understand what you're thinking right now. Just stick
> with it.
>
> Thanks
> Joe
>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > The "Disclaimers" section at
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html says that the web site,
> > documentation and releases should include a disclaimer. It does not say
> > that the release announcement should include a disclaimer.
> >
> > Can someone please clarify?
> >
> > Julian
> >
> >
> > On Feb 3, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > This release announcement does not contain the required DISCLAIMER
> > necessary for all incubating projects.
> >
> > Please see:
> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Steve Blackmon <sb...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I'm pleased to announce immediate availability of streams 0.1-incubating.
> >
> > Download links to the source code zip, md5, and asc are available from
> > http://streams.incubator.apache.org.
> >
> > Steve Blackmon
> > sblackmon@apache.org
> >
>
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Streams 0.1-incubating release
Posted by Joe Witt <jo...@gmail.com>.
Julian
Take a look here:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#notes-disclaimer
Also in the checklist for things to validate
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#check-list It
calls out the disclaimer.
As a rep from a project that just finally cracked through on our first
release - very much understand what you're thinking right now. Just stick
with it.
Thanks
Joe
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> The "Disclaimers" section at
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html says that the web site,
> documentation and releases should include a disclaimer. It does not say
> that the release announcement should include a disclaimer.
>
> Can someone please clarify?
>
> Julian
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This release announcement does not contain the required DISCLAIMER
> necessary for all incubating projects.
>
> Please see:
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html
>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Steve Blackmon <sb...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> I'm pleased to announce immediate availability of streams 0.1-incubating.
>
> Download links to the source code zip, md5, and asc are available from
> http://streams.incubator.apache.org.
>
> Steve Blackmon
> sblackmon@apache.org
>
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Streams 0.1-incubating release
Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
The "Disclaimers" section at
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html says that the web site,
documentation and releases should include a disclaimer. It does not say
that the release announcement should include a disclaimer.
Can someone please clarify?
Julian
On Feb 3, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
This release announcement does not contain the required DISCLAIMER
necessary for all incubating projects.
Please see:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Steve Blackmon <sb...@apache.org>
wrote:
I'm pleased to announce immediate availability of streams 0.1-incubating.
Download links to the source code zip, md5, and asc are available from
http://streams.incubator.apache.org.
Steve Blackmon
sblackmon@apache.org