Re: Maturity Model and Graduation

[Steffen Rochel <st...@gmail.com>]

I started a draft assessment -
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+MXNet
based
on my personal view. Please keep in mind I'm new to the project and Apache
(just attended my first ApacheCon!!). The items I was not sure myself I
marked as "???".

Jim et all - looking for your guidance if the assessment should be
discussed further within PPMC, on private@ and next steps.

Steffen

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 1:53 PM Pedro Larroy <pe...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> So Isabel, are you saying that if we publish a clearer TODO list or
> contributions needed material we might get more contribution there?
>
> One thing that I like from other projects is to make a list of low-hanging
> fruit issues or easy contributions that newcomers can pick to get familiar
> with the project, especially in projects like MXNet in which some
> contributions might require significant ramp up time, technical and
> mathematical skills or domain knowledge.
>
> Pedro.
>
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 3:06 AM Isabel Drost-Fromm <is...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On 28/09/18 11:27, kellen sunderland wrote:
> > > I'd love to see some more
> > > sustained contribution from other open source communities to help us
> out
> > in
> > > this area
> >
> > That's not exactly the model I have seen to work. What I have seen works
> > really well at other projects is pulling users in as committers in a
> > scratch your own itch kind of way. For that to work you need to make it
> > clear what contributions you need, you need to make time to coach people
> > to become developers, you need to make your users accustomed to the way
> > you work as early as possible. It also helps to ask users for
> > contributions and offer mentoring help from your side along the way.
> >
> > I know that this is tedious work that needs a lot of motivating people,
> > mentoring people, explaining to people, however it makes for a
> > sustainable community of people that do the work out of self interest.
> >
> >
> >
> http://blog.isabel-drost.de/posts/open-development-and-inner-source-for-fun-and-profit.html
> >
> >
> > Isabel
> >
>

Re: Maturity Model and Graduation

[Pedro Larroy <pe...@gmail.com>]

Thanks Steffen

This document looks great and to me showcases clearly the areas in which we
can improve. CO50, CO30 and IN10 standout to me in particular.

Pedro.



On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 6:38 PM Steffen Rochel <st...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I started a draft assessment -
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+MXNet
> based
> on my personal view. Please keep in mind I'm new to the project and Apache
> (just attended my first ApacheCon!!). The items I was not sure myself I
> marked as "???".
>
> Jim et all - looking for your guidance if the assessment should be
> discussed further within PPMC, on private@ and next steps.
>
> Steffen
>
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 1:53 PM Pedro Larroy <pedro.larroy.lists@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > So Isabel, are you saying that if we publish a clearer TODO list or
> > contributions needed material we might get more contribution there?
> >
> > One thing that I like from other projects is to make a list of
> low-hanging
> > fruit issues or easy contributions that newcomers can pick to get
> familiar
> > with the project, especially in projects like MXNet in which some
> > contributions might require significant ramp up time, technical and
> > mathematical skills or domain knowledge.
> >
> > Pedro.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 3:06 AM Isabel Drost-Fromm <is...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 28/09/18 11:27, kellen sunderland wrote:
> > > > I'd love to see some more
> > > > sustained contribution from other open source communities to help us
> > out
> > > in
> > > > this area
> > >
> > > That's not exactly the model I have seen to work. What I have seen
> works
> > > really well at other projects is pulling users in as committers in a
> > > scratch your own itch kind of way. For that to work you need to make it
> > > clear what contributions you need, you need to make time to coach
> people
> > > to become developers, you need to make your users accustomed to the way
> > > you work as early as possible. It also helps to ask users for
> > > contributions and offer mentoring help from your side along the way.
> > >
> > > I know that this is tedious work that needs a lot of motivating people,
> > > mentoring people, explaining to people, however it makes for a
> > > sustainable community of people that do the work out of self interest.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://blog.isabel-drost.de/posts/open-development-and-inner-source-for-fun-and-profit.html
> > >
> > >
> > > Isabel
> > >
> >
>