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Posted to dev@clerezza.apache.org by Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org> on 2014/06/11 21:39:40 UTC
FYI : common RDF interfaces
Hi there,
There is some discussion starting up at
https://github.com/wikier/commons-rdf/blob/master/README.md
on a small set of compatibility interfaces for RDF 1.1 concepts.
Andy
Re: FYI : common RDF interfaces
Posted by Peter Ansell <an...@gmail.com>.
On 12 June 2014 19:12, Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 12/06/14 09:46, Minto van der Sluis wrote:
>>
>> Hi Andy,
>>
>> This is very very interesting.
>>
>> I have been thinking about something similar the last few months. My
>> idea was to take part of Clerezza (rdf.core) as a base to try and make
>> it a java standard through the Java Community Process (jcp.org). Hoping
>> to increase adoption and boost the creation supporting tools.
>>
>> IMO this makes it possible to separate RDF tools from specific RDF
>> solutions.
>>
>> How can I join in?
>
>
> github style. Go comment!
>
> I can't see it being a short-then-done exercise, more a long term refinement
> of ideas. I (personally) hope it does not suffer from "mission creep".
I hope it doesn't suffer from mission creep either!
Peter
Re: FYI : common RDF interfaces
Posted by Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org>.
On 12/06/14 09:46, Minto van der Sluis wrote:
> Hi Andy,
>
> This is very very interesting.
>
> I have been thinking about something similar the last few months. My
> idea was to take part of Clerezza (rdf.core) as a base to try and make
> it a java standard through the Java Community Process (jcp.org). Hoping
> to increase adoption and boost the creation supporting tools.
>
> IMO this makes it possible to separate RDF tools from specific RDF
> solutions.
>
> How can I join in?
github style. Go comment!
I can't see it being a short-then-done exercise, more a long term
refinement of ideas. I (personally) hope it does not suffer from
"mission creep".
Andy
>
> Regards,
>
> Minto
>
>
> Andy Seaborne schreef op 11-6-2014 21:39:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> There is some discussion starting up at
>>
>> https://github.com/wikier/commons-rdf/blob/master/README.md
>>
>> on a small set of compatibility interfaces for RDF 1.1 concepts.
>>
>> Andy
>
>
Re: FYI : common RDF interfaces
Posted by Reto Gmür <re...@apache.org>.
Thanks Andy for the pointer!
Having a common set of library solely based on the standard would indeed be
great, and indeed what clerezza rdf.core aims too.
I have been planning to suggest some changes for rdf.core (after the
release I plan to push forward after my holidays in around two weeks). I
don't think that many changes are needed for RDF 1.1 but some changes
should be made to make the API more easy to understand and more consistent
with commonly use terms (at expenses of strict conformance with terms used
in spec).
Mainly some renaming and simplification:
- UriRef -> Iri
- LockableMGraph / MGraph /TripleCollection -> Graph (with the identity
criterion defined as in MGraph)
- Graph -> ImmutableGraph (with the current isomorphic == equals identity
criterion)
- TcProvider -> DataSet (adding a default graph)
An important design requirement that rdf.core imho must keep satisfying is
that it's suitable to wrap any data (even very large) and expose it using
the RDF. This requirement excludes introducing things like blank node IDs.
Cheers,
Reto
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Minto van der Sluis <mi...@xup.nl> wrote:
> Hi Andy,
>
> This is very very interesting.
>
> I have been thinking about something similar the last few months. My
> idea was to take part of Clerezza (rdf.core) as a base to try and make
> it a java standard through the Java Community Process (jcp.org). Hoping
> to increase adoption and boost the creation supporting tools.
>
> IMO this makes it possible to separate RDF tools from specific RDF
> solutions.
>
> How can I join in?
>
> Regards,
>
> Minto
>
>
> Andy Seaborne schreef op 11-6-2014 21:39:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > There is some discussion starting up at
> >
> > https://github.com/wikier/commons-rdf/blob/master/README.md
> >
> > on a small set of compatibility interfaces for RDF 1.1 concepts.
> >
> > Andy
>
>
> --
> ir. ing. Minto van der Sluis
> Software innovator / renovator
> Xup BV
>
> Mobiel: +31 (0) 626 014541
>
>
Re: FYI : common RDF interfaces
Posted by Minto van der Sluis <mi...@xup.nl>.
Hi Andy,
This is very very interesting.
I have been thinking about something similar the last few months. My
idea was to take part of Clerezza (rdf.core) as a base to try and make
it a java standard through the Java Community Process (jcp.org). Hoping
to increase adoption and boost the creation supporting tools.
IMO this makes it possible to separate RDF tools from specific RDF
solutions.
How can I join in?
Regards,
Minto
Andy Seaborne schreef op 11-6-2014 21:39:
> Hi there,
>
> There is some discussion starting up at
>
> https://github.com/wikier/commons-rdf/blob/master/README.md
>
> on a small set of compatibility interfaces for RDF 1.1 concepts.
>
> Andy
--
ir. ing. Minto van der Sluis
Software innovator / renovator
Xup BV
Mobiel: +31 (0) 626 014541