log2log (Was: Re: Revisiting logging in MINA 2.0)

[Trustin Lee <tr...@gmail.com>]

On Dec 18, 2007 6:58 PM, Maarten Bosteels <mb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Dec 18, 2007 10:47 AM, Julien Vermillard <jv...@archean.fr> wrote:
> > On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:32:41 +0100
> > Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Trustin,
> > >
> > > I think that everybody should keep calm and peaceful. What are we
> > > discussing about ? A logging framework and nothing else.
> > >
> > > As you said, you have added a page explaining how to use SLF4J with
> > > MINA and another project. It works, it is simple, and you have added
> > > the full howto. So what is the problem? Does someone will trade off
> > > against MINA just because he has 'problem' with slf4j when we _know_
> > > that slf4j is not a problem at all? come on ... Adding 2 jars in a
> > > classpath is a good price to pay for benefit from MINA.
> > >
> >
> > Hi Emmanuel,
> > I think everybody understood your point. I think everybody agree here
> > for say slf4j is really not a problem. The idea is to give some
> > solution for the people who can't live with another dependency that
> > will look 'ugly' in their classpath (I know you think it's stupid :D).
> >
> > So that why releasing a patchset for them, or a mina.jar bundled with
> > slf4j-nop will be fine and will hurt nobody.
>
> Question remains if the MINA team should try to solve this, since we
> all agree that there is no problem with SLF4J ?
> I hope we're not sending out the wrong message about SLF4J by creating
> such a tool ?
>
> I think a lot of people (including me) would really like to see a
> massive adoption of SLF4J by other projects (instead of JCL)
> so that the entire java community can stop wasting time discussing
> logging frameworks :-p
> Of course, it's not MINA's task to promote SLF4J but at least we
> should give it the credit it deserves.

Well, it will also help adoption of SLF4J because the tool will
provide a mean to convert Log4J code to SLF4J code.  It will just give
some freedom of choice.  So it also can be a weapon to help SLF4J to
rule the world of logging.  :)

Trustin
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