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Posted to user@openmeetings.apache.org by Marius <nu...@gmail.com> on 2013/03/13 21:49:14 UTC
Easy login video chatroom
Hello,
I would like a system that works like this:
You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and
get a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video
rooms.
That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting started.
Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it
doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off…
Can someone point me in the right direction/help me get started? It
would be very much appreciated :)
Best regards,
Marius
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
I have fixed some of the issues that might be most critical.
But there is still a little bit to do (and to test) to make it 100%
resolved.
But if you like, you can checkout the latest revision (r >= r1457361) and
do start some tests.
Sebastian
2013/3/17 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
> I've logged the issues in
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-570
> you can follow up the status of that issue to see when its fixed and ready
> to re-test.
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> 2013/3/17 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
>
>> The issues of the 3th problem is in the "_stop" method in the
>> "baseVideoStream.lzx"
>>
>> _stop will only be execute a "clear" (that will un-attach the Camera from
>> the videoview)
>> if (_ns != null) //if there is a netstream attached to the video
>> => In the device settings _ns is null, cause you just want to show a
>> preview
>> The effect is that _stop will never call "clear"
>>
>> By adding a manual "clear" to the attachCamera function (and when the
>> window closes), the camera status light goes off when you choose "no
>> Audio/Video" as setting and click on "start conference".
>>
>> I will try to bundle a patch for those issues now.
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/3/17 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
>>
>> The problem is that the attachCamera method is invoked multiple times
>>> when the device video initializes:
>>>
>>> 1) As soon as the two combobox'es rendered completely each will call
>>> "attachCamera" and re-attach the video to the view
>>> 2) as soon as the user clicks "Allow" in the flash settings, the
>>> attachCamera function is invoked again (what for ?)
>>>
>>> Somehow this leads to a bug in the application that creates two videos
>>> and one is no more resizable.
>>>
>>> Also the video view that the attachCamera method is using is the wrong
>>> videoview.
>>> There are two preview video objects in the device settings:
>>> a) One for the actual current webcam view (aka "_publisher")
>>> b) One for the playback of the 5 second self recording test video (aka
>>> "_viewer")
>>> The attachCamera function attaches the stream to the _viewer instead of
>>> the _publisher.
>>>
>>> There is also a 3th problem (that is also present when having no
>>> "attachCamera" function enabled). But the auto-attaching of the Camera to
>>> the videoview makes it more obvious:
>>> When you click "no Audo/Video" as device settings, your webcam still
>>> shows the "red status light" as if some application access it. Actually
>>> this should no happen. The status light should turn off when you don't use
>>> your webcam. The issue is that the cam is somehow not currectly unattached
>>> from the videoview.
>>>
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/3/17 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Hi Marius,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for the demo video, that is really useful.
>>>>
>>>> I can confirm on the second bug.
>>>> "When I then select a cam resolution that's lower, the feed area
>>>> doesn't scale properly."
>>>> I will have a look at it.
>>>>
>>>> For the first one I am currently not sure yet how that can happen.
>>>> Seems like an issue with the resolution or initialization issue.
>>>>
>>>> Sebastian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/3/16 Marius <nu...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Clearing the cache made the old version work again, and getting an SVN
>>>>> checkout gave me revision 1457222, which indeed behaves differently.
>>>>> However, it still seems to have a few bugs:
>>>>> When I join a room and get the webcam selection screen, it shows a
>>>>> solid color rectangle. The color of this is somehow connected to the
>>>>> webcam, because if I wave my hand in front, it changes color. I suspect it
>>>>> might be an average, or the top left pixel color or something like that.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I click on one of the cam resolutions, it shows me a live feed.
>>>>> That's definitely an improvement over before.
>>>>> When I then select a cam resolution that's lower, the feed area
>>>>> doesn't scale properly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's a quick video showing the bugs:
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFtI2e0Qd04
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Marius, unfortunately my first fix for this issue was incomplete
>>>>>> You need r1456794 or later :(
>>>>>> probably browser cache should be cleaned to ensure changes are in
>>>>>> effect
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry, scratch that. The old version also doesn't work anymore for
>>>>>>> me, which implies that I changed something to my system that has an
>>>>>>> influence on it. Not sure what yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just tried running 1456769, which includes your new fix, and now
>>>>>>>> I'm not getting the video configuration window at all. Nothing happens upon
>>>>>>>> joining, and hitting the little green arrows does nothing either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm running Windows 7, JRE 6.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "black box" should be fixed now
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-563
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to be fair I never used this script (both win or *nix)
>>>>>>>>>> I would recommend to switch from derby to other db, this will
>>>>>>>>>> free java resources ....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Setting Xms to 768m seems to work:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms768m -Xmn512m -Xss256k
>>>>>>>>>>> -XX:+AggressiveOpts -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4
>>>>>>>>>>> -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16
>>>>>>>>>>> -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31
>>>>>>>>>>> -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Note that this is 64bit jre6, on windows 7. Not sure if that's
>>>>>>>>>>> relevant.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The issue might be related to that there's an "m" missing from
>>>>>>>>>>>> the end of "-Xms256". Note that this is freshly downloaded from
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Adding the "m" gives me a slightly different error now:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Too small initial heap for new size specified
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what the problem is now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, makes sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> red5-highperf gives me this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Too small initial heap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The JAVA_OPTS listed in red5-highperf are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms256 -Xmn512m -Xss256k
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -XX:+AggressiveOpts -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea users use appointments/private rooms and invite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only Admin can create public rooms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try to run with red5-highperf as first step
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heh yeah, sorry about that :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, so the basics are working okay. Email verification is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turned off, and upon login the user is dropped in the public room tab.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the next set of questions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Can I allow users to create public rooms by themselves?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or is the "idea" of OpenMeetings that they'll use the private rooms for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this and then invite people?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is this a simple out of memory error, or something more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serious? How do I give java more memory? (I'm assuming it's a flag I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to set in red5.bat. Will that Just Work™?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "org.springframework.scheduling.quartz.SchedulerFactoryBean#0_QuartzSchedulerThread"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [WARN] [NioProc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> essor-3] org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception caught PermGen space
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space[INFO]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [NioProcessor-3] org.red5.server.net.rtmp.codec.RTMPProtocolDecoder - Ac
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tion userservice.refreshSession
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "http-bio-0.0.0.0-5080-exec-8"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "pool-6-thread-2"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get it :) you are right it is offtopic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm referring to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What page are you refering to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every OM user can set its own language in the profile ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that page bothers me quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switch it O_O)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.1 can be downloaded from here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recompile flash to achieve this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> managed to get it installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simply following the 3 steps on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed more in line with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the user, where they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chatting. I don't need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. Then for me as the server host I have the problem that I can't find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out how I'm supposed to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is customizable? How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intuitive overview.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's a step in the right direction. However, the latest official release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is 2.0. Do you have any binaries for 2.1?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings hard: Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your webcam view in the setup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Choose micro", just have it default to the first option in the list the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first time you start. For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the most important part: Replace the black
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rectangle by a *constant live feed*. The black
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rectangle suggests that the cam is not working!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entire thing, here are a number of directed questions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing, other than what's sprinkled across the unstructured
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have the video feeds embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the height of the chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all. Is this possible at all without recompiling the source?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requirement when making an account?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up, of course, but we'll get to them later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Very good!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default.landing.zone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the list and rooms may appear like Dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the camera. The popular Skype has a setting more complicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than OpenMeetings. But I do not collectpersistents
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users' negative reports about this routine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> highlighting some issues relevant to the detriment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of priority functions. For example, in everyday
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usage logging is unnecessary repetitive and also the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default presentation in the first half of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dashboard. These two points are already solved with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the "remember me" and now with displaying lists of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rooms instead of traditional dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a great flux interface. I suggest a review of it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help eliminate the excesses in the OM GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complex for first time users, or users who only infrequently use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administrator’s Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change the default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g. to the Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings to open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do is select the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people to the meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when the user clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly into the meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting for which Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a version 2.1 running at the moment on which I could check.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have had difficulty entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware. I don’t know how much easier we could make this, but they still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have issues.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the administrator. I see that users have difficulty with the current
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface (Login and Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think they have too many options when they want to just entering a room and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work with them.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime, are you saying its too hard to build and test or you have an issue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with using flash and the general GUI?****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think that a simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it is 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings. Exactly why escapes the interface itself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Headless - 12.10.pdf -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> includes the latest H264
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> registration needed), and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chat + video rooms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even getting started.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the wiki, but it****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off... Can someone****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started? It would be very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
I've logged the issues in
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-570
you can follow up the status of that issue to see when its fixed and ready
to re-test.
Sebastian
2013/3/17 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
> The issues of the 3th problem is in the "_stop" method in the
> "baseVideoStream.lzx"
>
> _stop will only be execute a "clear" (that will un-attach the Camera from
> the videoview)
> if (_ns != null) //if there is a netstream attached to the video
> => In the device settings _ns is null, cause you just want to show a
> preview
> The effect is that _stop will never call "clear"
>
> By adding a manual "clear" to the attachCamera function (and when the
> window closes), the camera status light goes off when you choose "no
> Audio/Video" as setting and click on "start conference".
>
> I will try to bundle a patch for those issues now.
>
> Sebastian
>
>
>
> 2013/3/17 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
>
> The problem is that the attachCamera method is invoked multiple times when
>> the device video initializes:
>>
>> 1) As soon as the two combobox'es rendered completely each will call
>> "attachCamera" and re-attach the video to the view
>> 2) as soon as the user clicks "Allow" in the flash settings, the
>> attachCamera function is invoked again (what for ?)
>>
>> Somehow this leads to a bug in the application that creates two videos
>> and one is no more resizable.
>>
>> Also the video view that the attachCamera method is using is the wrong
>> videoview.
>> There are two preview video objects in the device settings:
>> a) One for the actual current webcam view (aka "_publisher")
>> b) One for the playback of the 5 second self recording test video (aka
>> "_viewer")
>> The attachCamera function attaches the stream to the _viewer instead of
>> the _publisher.
>>
>> There is also a 3th problem (that is also present when having no
>> "attachCamera" function enabled). But the auto-attaching of the Camera to
>> the videoview makes it more obvious:
>> When you click "no Audo/Video" as device settings, your webcam still
>> shows the "red status light" as if some application access it. Actually
>> this should no happen. The status light should turn off when you don't use
>> your webcam. The issue is that the cam is somehow not currectly unattached
>> from the videoview.
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>> 2013/3/17 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
>>
>> Hi Marius,
>>>
>>> thanks for the demo video, that is really useful.
>>>
>>> I can confirm on the second bug.
>>> "When I then select a cam resolution that's lower, the feed area doesn't
>>> scale properly."
>>> I will have a look at it.
>>>
>>> For the first one I am currently not sure yet how that can happen. Seems
>>> like an issue with the resolution or initialization issue.
>>>
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/3/16 Marius <nu...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Clearing the cache made the old version work again, and getting an SVN
>>>> checkout gave me revision 1457222, which indeed behaves differently.
>>>> However, it still seems to have a few bugs:
>>>> When I join a room and get the webcam selection screen, it shows a
>>>> solid color rectangle. The color of this is somehow connected to the
>>>> webcam, because if I wave my hand in front, it changes color. I suspect it
>>>> might be an average, or the top left pixel color or something like that.
>>>>
>>>> When I click on one of the cam resolutions, it shows me a live feed.
>>>> That's definitely an improvement over before.
>>>> When I then select a cam resolution that's lower, the feed area doesn't
>>>> scale properly.
>>>>
>>>> Here's a quick video showing the bugs:
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFtI2e0Qd04
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Marius, unfortunately my first fix for this issue was incomplete
>>>>> You need r1456794 or later :(
>>>>> probably browser cache should be cleaned to ensure changes are in
>>>>> effect
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, scratch that. The old version also doesn't work anymore for
>>>>>> me, which implies that I changed something to my system that has an
>>>>>> influence on it. Not sure what yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just tried running 1456769, which includes your new fix, and now
>>>>>>> I'm not getting the video configuration window at all. Nothing happens upon
>>>>>>> joining, and hitting the little green arrows does nothing either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm running Windows 7, JRE 6.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "black box" should be fixed now
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-563
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to be fair I never used this script (both win or *nix)
>>>>>>>>> I would recommend to switch from derby to other db, this will free
>>>>>>>>> java resources ....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Setting Xms to 768m seems to work:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms768m -Xmn512m -Xss256k
>>>>>>>>>> -XX:+AggressiveOpts -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4
>>>>>>>>>> -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16
>>>>>>>>>> -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31
>>>>>>>>>> -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Note that this is 64bit jre6, on windows 7. Not sure if that's
>>>>>>>>>> relevant.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Marius <nuntius.marii@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The issue might be related to that there's an "m" missing from
>>>>>>>>>>> the end of "-Xms256". Note that this is freshly downloaded from
>>>>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/.
>>>>>>>>>>> Adding the "m" gives me a slightly different error now:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>>>>>>>>>>> Too small initial heap for new size specified
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what the problem is now.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, makes sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> red5-highperf gives me this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Too small initial heap
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The JAVA_OPTS listed in red5-highperf are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms256 -Xmn512m -Xss256k
>>>>>>>>>>>> -XX:+AggressiveOpts -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4
>>>>>>>>>>>> -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16
>>>>>>>>>>>> -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea users use appointments/private rooms and invite
>>>>>>>>>>>>> others ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only Admin can create public rooms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> try to run with red5-highperf as first step
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heh yeah, sorry about that :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, so the basics are working okay. Email verification is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turned off, and upon login the user is dropped in the public room tab.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the next set of questions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Can I allow users to create public rooms by themselves? Or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the "idea" of OpenMeetings that they'll use the private rooms for this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and then invite people?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is this a simple out of memory error, or something more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serious? How do I give java more memory? (I'm assuming it's a flag I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to set in red5.bat. Will that Just Work™?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "org.springframework.scheduling.quartz.SchedulerFactoryBean#0_QuartzSchedulerThread"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [WARN] [NioProc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> essor-3] org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception caught PermGen space
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space[INFO]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [NioProcessor-3] org.red5.server.net.rtmp.codec.RTMPProtocolDecoder - Ac
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tion userservice.refreshSession
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "http-bio-0.0.0.0-5080-exec-8"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "pool-6-thread-2"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get it :) you are right it is offtopic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm referring to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What page are you refering to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every OM user can set its own language in the profile ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page bothers me quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it O_O)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.1 can be downloaded from here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recompile flash to achieve this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> managed to get it installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simply following the 3 steps on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed more in line with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the user, where they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chatting. I don't need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. Then for me as the server host I have the problem that I can't find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out how I'm supposed to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is customizable? How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intuitive overview.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's a step in the right direction. However, the latest official release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is 2.0. Do you have any binaries for 2.1?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings hard: Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your webcam view in the setup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Choose micro", just have it default to the first option in the list the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first time you start. For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the most important part: Replace the black
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rectangle by a *constant live feed*. The black
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rectangle suggests that the cam is not working!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entire thing, here are a number of directed questions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other than what's sprinkled across the unstructured
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have the video feeds embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the height of the chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all. Is this possible at all without recompiling the source?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requirement when making an account?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course, but we'll get to them later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Very good!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default.landing.zone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the list and rooms may appear like Dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the camera. The popular Skype has a setting more complicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than OpenMeetings. But I do not collect persistents
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users' negative reports about this routine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> highlighting some issues relevant to the detriment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of priority functions. For example, in everyday
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usage logging is unnecessary repetitive and also the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default presentation in the first half of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dashboard. These two points are already solved with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the "remember me" and now with displaying lists of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rooms instead of traditional dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great flux interface. I suggest a review of it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help eliminate the excesses in the OM GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complex for first time users, or users who only infrequently use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administrator’s Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change the default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g. to the Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings to open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do is select the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people to the meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when the user clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly into the meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting for which Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a version 2.1 running at the moment on which I could check.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had difficulty entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware. I don’t know how much easier we could make this, but they still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have issues.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the administrator. I see that users have difficulty with the current
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface (Login and Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think they have too many options when they want to just entering a room and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with them.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are you saying its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using flash and the general GUI?****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think that a simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it is 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings. Exactly why escapes the interface itself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Headless - 12.10.pdf -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> includes the latest H264
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> registration needed), and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chat + video rooms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even getting started.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the wiki, but it****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off... Can someone****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started? It would be very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
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Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
The issues of the 3th problem is in the "_stop" method in the
"baseVideoStream.lzx"
_stop will only be execute a "clear" (that will un-attach the Camera from
the videoview)
if (_ns != null) //if there is a netstream attached to the video
=> In the device settings _ns is null, cause you just want to show a preview
The effect is that _stop will never call "clear"
By adding a manual "clear" to the attachCamera function (and when the
window closes), the camera status light goes off when you choose "no
Audio/Video" as setting and click on "start conference".
I will try to bundle a patch for those issues now.
Sebastian
2013/3/17 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
> The problem is that the attachCamera method is invoked multiple times when
> the device video initializes:
>
> 1) As soon as the two combobox'es rendered completely each will call
> "attachCamera" and re-attach the video to the view
> 2) as soon as the user clicks "Allow" in the flash settings, the
> attachCamera function is invoked again (what for ?)
>
> Somehow this leads to a bug in the application that creates two videos and
> one is no more resizable.
>
> Also the video view that the attachCamera method is using is the wrong
> videoview.
> There are two preview video objects in the device settings:
> a) One for the actual current webcam view (aka "_publisher")
> b) One for the playback of the 5 second self recording test video (aka
> "_viewer")
> The attachCamera function attaches the stream to the _viewer instead of
> the _publisher.
>
> There is also a 3th problem (that is also present when having no
> "attachCamera" function enabled). But the auto-attaching of the Camera to
> the videoview makes it more obvious:
> When you click "no Audo/Video" as device settings, your webcam still shows
> the "red status light" as if some application access it. Actually this
> should no happen. The status light should turn off when you don't use your
> webcam. The issue is that the cam is somehow not currectly unattached from
> the videoview.
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> 2013/3/17 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
>
> Hi Marius,
>>
>> thanks for the demo video, that is really useful.
>>
>> I can confirm on the second bug.
>> "When I then select a cam resolution that's lower, the feed area doesn't
>> scale properly."
>> I will have a look at it.
>>
>> For the first one I am currently not sure yet how that can happen. Seems
>> like an issue with the resolution or initialization issue.
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/3/16 Marius <nu...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Clearing the cache made the old version work again, and getting an SVN
>>> checkout gave me revision 1457222, which indeed behaves differently.
>>> However, it still seems to have a few bugs:
>>> When I join a room and get the webcam selection screen, it shows a solid
>>> color rectangle. The color of this is somehow connected to the webcam,
>>> because if I wave my hand in front, it changes color. I suspect it might be
>>> an average, or the top left pixel color or something like that.
>>>
>>> When I click on one of the cam resolutions, it shows me a live feed.
>>> That's definitely an improvement over before.
>>> When I then select a cam resolution that's lower, the feed area doesn't
>>> scale properly.
>>>
>>> Here's a quick video showing the bugs:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFtI2e0Qd04
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Marius, unfortunately my first fix for this issue was incomplete
>>>> You need r1456794 or later :(
>>>> probably browser cache should be cleaned to ensure changes are in effect
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, scratch that. The old version also doesn't work anymore for me,
>>>>> which implies that I changed something to my system that has an influence
>>>>> on it. Not sure what yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I just tried running 1456769, which includes your new fix, and now
>>>>>> I'm not getting the video configuration window at all. Nothing happens upon
>>>>>> joining, and hitting the little green arrows does nothing either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm running Windows 7, JRE 6.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "black box" should be fixed now
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-563
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to be fair I never used this script (both win or *nix)
>>>>>>>> I would recommend to switch from derby to other db, this will free
>>>>>>>> java resources ....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Setting Xms to 768m seems to work:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms768m -Xmn512m -Xss256k
>>>>>>>>> -XX:+AggressiveOpts -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4
>>>>>>>>> -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16
>>>>>>>>> -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31
>>>>>>>>> -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Note that this is 64bit jre6, on windows 7. Not sure if that's
>>>>>>>>> relevant.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The issue might be related to that there's an "m" missing from
>>>>>>>>>> the end of "-Xms256". Note that this is freshly downloaded from
>>>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/.
>>>>>>>>>> Adding the "m" gives me a slightly different error now:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>>>>>>>>>> Too small initial heap for new size specified
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what the problem is now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Marius <nuntius.marii@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, makes sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> red5-highperf gives me this:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>>>>>>>>>>> Too small initial heap
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The JAVA_OPTS listed in red5-highperf are:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms256 -Xmn512m -Xss256k
>>>>>>>>>>> -XX:+AggressiveOpts -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4
>>>>>>>>>>> -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16
>>>>>>>>>>> -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31
>>>>>>>>>>> -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea users use appointments/private rooms and invite others
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Only Admin can create public rooms
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> try to run with red5-highperf as first step
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heh yeah, sorry about that :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, so the basics are working okay. Email verification is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> turned off, and upon login the user is dropped in the public room tab.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the next set of questions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Can I allow users to create public rooms by themselves? Or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the "idea" of OpenMeetings that they'll use the private rooms for this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and then invite people?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is this a simple out of memory error, or something more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> serious? How do I give java more memory? (I'm assuming it's a flag I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to set in red5.bat. Will that Just Work™?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "org.springframework.scheduling.quartz.SchedulerFactoryBean#0_QuartzSchedulerThread"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [WARN] [NioProc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> essor-3] org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception caught PermGen space
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space[INFO]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [NioProcessor-3] org.red5.server.net.rtmp.codec.RTMPProtocolDecoder - Ac
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tion userservice.refreshSession
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "http-bio-0.0.0.0-5080-exec-8"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "pool-6-thread-2"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get it :) you are right it is offtopic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm referring to https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What page are you refering to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every OM user can set its own language in the profile ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page bothers me quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it O_O)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.1 can be downloaded from here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recompile flash to achieve this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get it installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following the 3 steps on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed more in line with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the user, where they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chatting. I don't need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. Then for me as the server host I have the problem that I can't find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out how I'm supposed to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is customizable? How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intuitive overview.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's a step in the right direction. However, the latest official release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is 2.0. Do you have any binaries for 2.1?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings hard: Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your webcam view in the setup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Choose micro", just have it default to the first option in the list the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first time you start. For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by a *constant live feed*. The black rectangle suggests
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the cam is not working!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing, here are a number of directed questions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other than what's sprinkled across the unstructured
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the video feeds embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> height of the chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this possible at all without recompiling the source?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requirement when making an account?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course, but we'll get to them later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Very good!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default.landing.zone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the list and rooms may appear like Dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camera. The popular Skype has a setting more complicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than OpenMeetings. But I do not collect persistents
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users' negative reports about this routine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> highlighting some issues relevant to the detriment of priority
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functions. For example, in everyday usage logging is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unnecessary repetitive and also the default
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presentation in the first half of the dashboard. These
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two points are already solved with the "remember me" and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now with displaying lists of rooms instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> traditional dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great flux interface. I suggest a review of it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help eliminate the excesses in the OM GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complex for first time users, or users who only infrequently use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administrator’s Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change the default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g. to the Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings to open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do is select the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people to the meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when the user clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly into the meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting for which Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a version 2.1 running at the moment on which I could check.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had difficulty entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware. I don’t know how much easier we could make this, but they still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have issues.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administrator. I see that users have difficulty with the current interface
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Login and Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have too many options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with them.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are you saying its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using flash and the general GUI?****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think that a simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it is 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings. Exactly why escapes the interface itself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Headless - 12.10.pdf -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> includes the latest H264
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Cottham
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> registration needed), and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chat + video rooms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even getting started.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the wiki, but it****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off... Can someone****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
The problem is that the attachCamera method is invoked multiple times when
the device video initializes:
1) As soon as the two combobox'es rendered completely each will call
"attachCamera" and re-attach the video to the view
2) as soon as the user clicks "Allow" in the flash settings, the
attachCamera function is invoked again (what for ?)
Somehow this leads to a bug in the application that creates two videos and
one is no more resizable.
Also the video view that the attachCamera method is using is the wrong
videoview.
There are two preview video objects in the device settings:
a) One for the actual current webcam view (aka "_publisher")
b) One for the playback of the 5 second self recording test video (aka
"_viewer")
The attachCamera function attaches the stream to the _viewer instead of the
_publisher.
There is also a 3th problem (that is also present when having no
"attachCamera" function enabled). But the auto-attaching of the Camera to
the videoview makes it more obvious:
When you click "no Audo/Video" as device settings, your webcam still shows
the "red status light" as if some application access it. Actually this
should no happen. The status light should turn off when you don't use your
webcam. The issue is that the cam is somehow not currectly unattached from
the videoview.
Sebastian
2013/3/17 seba.wagner@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com>
> Hi Marius,
>
> thanks for the demo video, that is really useful.
>
> I can confirm on the second bug.
> "When I then select a cam resolution that's lower, the feed area doesn't
> scale properly."
> I will have a look at it.
>
> For the first one I am currently not sure yet how that can happen. Seems
> like an issue with the resolution or initialization issue.
>
> Sebastian
>
>
>
>
> 2013/3/16 Marius <nu...@gmail.com>
>
>> Thanks!
>> Clearing the cache made the old version work again, and getting an SVN
>> checkout gave me revision 1457222, which indeed behaves differently.
>> However, it still seems to have a few bugs:
>> When I join a room and get the webcam selection screen, it shows a solid
>> color rectangle. The color of this is somehow connected to the webcam,
>> because if I wave my hand in front, it changes color. I suspect it might be
>> an average, or the top left pixel color or something like that.
>>
>> When I click on one of the cam resolutions, it shows me a live feed.
>> That's definitely an improvement over before.
>> When I then select a cam resolution that's lower, the feed area doesn't
>> scale properly.
>>
>> Here's a quick video showing the bugs:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFtI2e0Qd04
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Marius, unfortunately my first fix for this issue was incomplete
>>> You need r1456794 or later :(
>>> probably browser cache should be cleaned to ensure changes are in effect
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry, scratch that. The old version also doesn't work anymore for me,
>>>> which implies that I changed something to my system that has an influence
>>>> on it. Not sure what yet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just tried running 1456769, which includes your new fix, and now I'm
>>>>> not getting the video configuration window at all. Nothing happens upon
>>>>> joining, and hitting the little green arrows does nothing either.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm running Windows 7, JRE 6.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "black box" should be fixed now
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-563
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to be fair I never used this script (both win or *nix)
>>>>>>> I would recommend to switch from derby to other db, this will free
>>>>>>> java resources ....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Setting Xms to 768m seems to work:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms768m -Xmn512m -Xss256k
>>>>>>>> -XX:+AggressiveOpts -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4
>>>>>>>> -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16
>>>>>>>> -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31
>>>>>>>> -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Note that this is 64bit jre6, on windows 7. Not sure if that's
>>>>>>>> relevant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The issue might be related to that there's an "m" missing from the
>>>>>>>>> end of "-Xms256". Note that this is freshly downloaded from
>>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/.
>>>>>>>>> Adding the "m" gives me a slightly different error now:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>>>>>>>>> Too small initial heap for new size specified
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't know what the problem is now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Okay, makes sense.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> red5-highperf gives me this:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>>>>>>>>>> Too small initial heap
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The JAVA_OPTS listed in red5-highperf are:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms256 -Xmn512m -Xss256k
>>>>>>>>>> -XX:+AggressiveOpts -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4
>>>>>>>>>> -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16
>>>>>>>>>> -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31
>>>>>>>>>> -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The idea users use appointments/private rooms and invite others
>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>> Only Admin can create public rooms
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> try to run with red5-highperf as first step
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Marius <nuntius.marii@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Heh yeah, sorry about that :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, so the basics are working okay. Email verification is
>>>>>>>>>>>> turned off, and upon login the user is dropped in the public room tab.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the next set of questions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Can I allow users to create public rooms by themselves? Or
>>>>>>>>>>>> is the "idea" of OpenMeetings that they'll use the private rooms for this
>>>>>>>>>>>> and then invite people?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is this a simple out of memory error, or something more
>>>>>>>>>>>> serious? How do I give java more memory? (I'm assuming it's a flag I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>> need to set in red5.bat. Will that Just Work™?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread
>>>>>>>>>>>> "org.springframework.scheduling.quartz.SchedulerFactoryBean#0_QuartzSchedulerThread"
>>>>>>>>>>>> [WARN] [NioProc
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> essor-3] org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler - Exception
>>>>>>>>>>>> caught PermGen space
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space[INFO]
>>>>>>>>>>>> [NioProcessor-3] org.red5.server.net.rtmp.codec.RTMPProtocolDecoder - Ac
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> tion userservice.refreshSession
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "http-bio-0.0.0.0-5080-exec-8"
>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "pool-6-thread-2"
>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get it :) you are right it is offtopic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm referring to https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What page are you refering to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every OM user can set its own language in the profile ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page bothers me quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it O_O)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.1 can be downloaded from here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recompile flash to achieve this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get it installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following the 3 steps on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more in line with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user, where they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chatting. I don't need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. Then for me as the server host I have the problem that I can't find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out how I'm supposed to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is customizable? How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intuitive overview.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's a step in the right direction. However, the latest official release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is 2.0. Do you have any binaries for 2.1?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings hard: Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your webcam view in the setup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Choose micro", just have it default to the first option in the list the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first time you start. For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by a *constant live feed*. The black rectangle suggests
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the cam is not working!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing, here are a number of directed questions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other than what's sprinkled across the unstructured
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the video feeds embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> height of the chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this possible at all without recompiling the source?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requirement when making an account?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course, but we'll get to them later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Very good!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default.landing.zone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list and rooms may appear like Dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camera. The popular Skype has a setting more complicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than OpenMeetings. But I do not collect persistents
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users' negative reports about this routine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> highlighting some issues relevant to the detriment of priority
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functions. For example, in everyday usage logging is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unnecessary repetitive and also the default
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presentation in the first half of the dashboard. These
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two points are already solved with the "remember me" and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now with displaying lists of rooms instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> traditional dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great flux interface. I suggest a review of it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help eliminate the excesses in the OM GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complex for first time users, or users who only infrequently use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administrator’s Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change the default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g. to the Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings to open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do is select the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people to the meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when the user clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly into the meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting for which Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a version 2.1 running at the moment on which I could check.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had difficulty entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware. I don’t know how much easier we could make this, but they still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have issues.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administrator. I see that users have difficulty with the current interface
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Login and Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have too many options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with them.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are you saying its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using flash and the general GUI?****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think that a simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it is 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings. Exactly why escapes the interface itself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Headless - 12.10.pdf -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> includes the latest H264
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Cottham
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Group IT Manager (Associate)
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> registration needed), and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chat + video rooms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting started.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the wiki, but it****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off... Can someone****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Hi Marius,
thanks for the demo video, that is really useful.
I can confirm on the second bug.
"When I then select a cam resolution that's lower, the feed area doesn't
scale properly."
I will have a look at it.
For the first one I am currently not sure yet how that can happen. Seems
like an issue with the resolution or initialization issue.
Sebastian
2013/3/16 Marius <nu...@gmail.com>
> Thanks!
> Clearing the cache made the old version work again, and getting an SVN
> checkout gave me revision 1457222, which indeed behaves differently.
> However, it still seems to have a few bugs:
> When I join a room and get the webcam selection screen, it shows a solid
> color rectangle. The color of this is somehow connected to the webcam,
> because if I wave my hand in front, it changes color. I suspect it might be
> an average, or the top left pixel color or something like that.
>
> When I click on one of the cam resolutions, it shows me a live feed.
> That's definitely an improvement over before.
> When I then select a cam resolution that's lower, the feed area doesn't
> scale properly.
>
> Here's a quick video showing the bugs:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFtI2e0Qd04
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hello Marius, unfortunately my first fix for this issue was incomplete
>> You need r1456794 or later :(
>> probably browser cache should be cleaned to ensure changes are in effect
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, scratch that. The old version also doesn't work anymore for me,
>>> which implies that I changed something to my system that has an influence
>>> on it. Not sure what yet.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just tried running 1456769, which includes your new fix, and now I'm
>>>> not getting the video configuration window at all. Nothing happens upon
>>>> joining, and hitting the little green arrows does nothing either.
>>>>
>>>> I'm running Windows 7, JRE 6.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "black box" should be fixed now
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-563
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> to be fair I never used this script (both win or *nix)
>>>>>> I would recommend to switch from derby to other db, this will free
>>>>>> java resources ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Setting Xms to 768m seems to work:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms768m -Xmn512m -Xss256k
>>>>>>> -XX:+AggressiveOpts -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4
>>>>>>> -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16
>>>>>>> -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31
>>>>>>> -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note that this is 64bit jre6, on windows 7. Not sure if that's
>>>>>>> relevant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The issue might be related to that there's an "m" missing from the
>>>>>>>> end of "-Xms256". Note that this is freshly downloaded from
>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/.
>>>>>>>> Adding the "m" gives me a slightly different error now:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>>>>>>>> Too small initial heap for new size specified
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't know what the problem is now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Okay, makes sense.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> red5-highperf gives me this:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>>>>>>>>> Too small initial heap
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The JAVA_OPTS listed in red5-highperf are:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms256 -Xmn512m -Xss256k
>>>>>>>>> -XX:+AggressiveOpts -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4
>>>>>>>>> -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16
>>>>>>>>> -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31
>>>>>>>>> -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The idea users use appointments/private rooms and invite others
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> Only Admin can create public rooms
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> try to run with red5-highperf as first step
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Heh yeah, sorry about that :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, so the basics are working okay. Email verification is
>>>>>>>>>>> turned off, and upon login the user is dropped in the public room tab.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the next set of questions:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Can I allow users to create public rooms by themselves? Or is
>>>>>>>>>>> the "idea" of OpenMeetings that they'll use the private rooms for this and
>>>>>>>>>>> then invite people?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is this a simple out of memory error, or something more
>>>>>>>>>>> serious? How do I give java more memory? (I'm assuming it's a flag I'll
>>>>>>>>>>> need to set in red5.bat. Will that Just Work™?)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread
>>>>>>>>>>> "org.springframework.scheduling.quartz.SchedulerFactoryBean#0_QuartzSchedulerThread"
>>>>>>>>>>> [WARN] [NioProc
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> essor-3] org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler - Exception
>>>>>>>>>>> caught PermGen space
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space[INFO] [NioProcessor-3]
>>>>>>>>>>> org.red5.server.net.rtmp.codec.RTMPProtocolDecoder - Ac
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> tion userservice.refreshSession
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "http-bio-0.0.0.0-5080-exec-8"
>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "pool-6-thread-2"
>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> get it :) you are right it is offtopic
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm referring to https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What page are you refering to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every OM user can set its own language in the profile ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page bothers me quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it O_O)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.1 can be downloaded from here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recompile flash to achieve this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get it installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following the 3 steps on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more in line with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user, where they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chatting. I don't need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. Then for me as the server host I have the problem that I can't find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out how I'm supposed to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is customizable? How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intuitive overview.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's a step in the right direction. However, the latest official release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is 2.0. Do you have any binaries for 2.1?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings hard: Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your webcam view in the setup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Choose micro", just have it default to the first option in the list the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first time you start. For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by a *constant live feed*. The black rectangle suggests
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the cam is not working!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing, here are a number of directed questions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other than what's sprinkled across the unstructured
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the video feeds embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> height of the chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this possible at all without recompiling the source?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification requirement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when making an account?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up, of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course, but we'll get to them later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Very good!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default.landing.zone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list and rooms may appear like Dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camera. The popular Skype has a setting more complicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than OpenMeetings. But I do not collect persistents
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users' negative reports about this routine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> highlighting some issues relevant to the detriment of priority
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functions. For example, in everyday usage logging is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unnecessary repetitive and also the default
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presentation in the first half of the dashboard. These
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two points are already solved with the "remember me" and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now with displaying lists of rooms instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> traditional dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great flux interface. I suggest a review of it to help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eliminate the excesses in the OM GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complex for first time users, or users who only infrequently use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administrator’s Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change the default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g. to the Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings to open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do is select the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people to the meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when the user clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly into the meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting for which Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a version 2.1 running at the moment on which I could check.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had difficulty entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware. I don’t know how much easier we could make this, but they still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have issues.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administrator. I see that users have difficulty with the current interface
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Login and Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have too many options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with them.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are you saying its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using flash and the general GUI?****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think that a simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it is 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings. Exactly why escapes the interface itself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Headless - 12.10.pdf -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> includes the latest H264
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Cottham
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed), and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> + video rooms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting started.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki, but it****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off... Can someone****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Marius <nu...@gmail.com>.
Thanks!
Clearing the cache made the old version work again, and getting an SVN
checkout gave me revision 1457222, which indeed behaves differently.
However, it still seems to have a few bugs:
When I join a room and get the webcam selection screen, it shows a solid
color rectangle. The color of this is somehow connected to the webcam,
because if I wave my hand in front, it changes color. I suspect it might be
an average, or the top left pixel color or something like that.
When I click on one of the cam resolutions, it shows me a live feed. That's
definitely an improvement over before.
When I then select a cam resolution that's lower, the feed area doesn't
scale properly.
Here's a quick video showing the bugs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFtI2e0Qd04
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hello Marius, unfortunately my first fix for this issue was incomplete
> You need r1456794 or later :(
> probably browser cache should be cleaned to ensure changes are in effect
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, scratch that. The old version also doesn't work anymore for me,
>> which implies that I changed something to my system that has an influence
>> on it. Not sure what yet.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I just tried running 1456769, which includes your new fix, and now I'm
>>> not getting the video configuration window at all. Nothing happens upon
>>> joining, and hitting the little green arrows does nothing either.
>>>
>>> I'm running Windows 7, JRE 6.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> "black box" should be fixed now
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-563
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> to be fair I never used this script (both win or *nix)
>>>>> I would recommend to switch from derby to other db, this will free
>>>>> java resources ....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Setting Xms to 768m seems to work:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms768m -Xmn512m -Xss256k
>>>>>> -XX:+AggressiveOpts -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4
>>>>>> -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16
>>>>>> -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31
>>>>>> -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note that this is 64bit jre6, on windows 7. Not sure if that's
>>>>>> relevant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The issue might be related to that there's an "m" missing from the
>>>>>>> end of "-Xms256". Note that this is freshly downloaded from
>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/.
>>>>>>> Adding the "m" gives me a slightly different error now:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>>>>>>> Too small initial heap for new size specified
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know what the problem is now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Okay, makes sense.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> red5-highperf gives me this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>>>>>>>> Too small initial heap
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The JAVA_OPTS listed in red5-highperf are:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms256 -Xmn512m -Xss256k
>>>>>>>> -XX:+AggressiveOpts -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4
>>>>>>>> -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16
>>>>>>>> -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31
>>>>>>>> -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The idea users use appointments/private rooms and invite others ...
>>>>>>>>> Only Admin can create public rooms
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> try to run with red5-highperf as first step
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Heh yeah, sorry about that :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Okay, so the basics are working okay. Email verification is
>>>>>>>>>> turned off, and upon login the user is dropped in the public room tab.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here's the next set of questions:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Can I allow users to create public rooms by themselves? Or is
>>>>>>>>>> the "idea" of OpenMeetings that they'll use the private rooms for this and
>>>>>>>>>> then invite people?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is this a simple out of memory error, or something more
>>>>>>>>>> serious? How do I give java more memory? (I'm assuming it's a flag I'll
>>>>>>>>>> need to set in red5.bat. Will that Just Work™?)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread
>>>>>>>>>> "org.springframework.scheduling.quartz.SchedulerFactoryBean#0_QuartzSchedulerThread"
>>>>>>>>>> [WARN] [NioProc
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> essor-3] org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler - Exception
>>>>>>>>>> caught PermGen space
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space[INFO] [NioProcessor-3]
>>>>>>>>>> org.red5.server.net.rtmp.codec.RTMPProtocolDecoder - Ac
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> tion userservice.refreshSession
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "http-bio-0.0.0.0-5080-exec-8"
>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "pool-6-thread-2" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
>>>>>>>>>> PermGen space
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> get it :) you are right it is offtopic
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Marius <nuntius.marii@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm referring to https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What page are you refering to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> every OM user can set its own language in the profile ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page bothers me quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it O_O)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.1 can be downloaded from here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recompile flash to achieve this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get it installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following the 3 steps on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more in line with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user, where they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chatting. I don't need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. Then for me as the server host I have the problem that I can't find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out how I'm supposed to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is customizable? How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intuitive overview.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a step in the right direction. However, the latest official release is 2.0.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any binaries for 2.1?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings hard: Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your webcam view in the setup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and "Choose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> micro", just have it default to the first option in the list the first time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you start. For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a *constant live feed*. The black rectangle suggests that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the cam is not working!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing, here are a number of directed questions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other than what's sprinkled across the unstructured wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the video feeds embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> height of the chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this possible at all without recompiling the source?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification requirement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when making an account?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up, of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course, but we'll get to them later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Very good!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default.landing.zone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list and rooms may appear like Dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camera. The popular Skype has a setting more complicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than OpenMeetings. But I do not collect persistents
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users' negative reports about this routine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some issues relevant to the detriment of priority
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functions. For example, in everyday usage logging is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unnecessary repetitive and also the default presentation in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the first half of the dashboard. These two points are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already solved with the "remember me" and now with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displaying lists of rooms instead of traditional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great flux interface. I suggest a review of it to help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eliminate the excesses in the OM GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complex for first time users, or users who only infrequently use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administrator’s Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change the default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g. to the Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings to open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do is select the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people to the meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when the user clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly into the meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting for which Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a version 2.1 running at the moment on which I could check.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficulty entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administrator. I see that users have difficulty with the current interface
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Login and Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have too many options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with them.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you saying its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flash and the general GUI?****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think that a simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it is 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings. Exactly why escapes the interface itself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Headless - 12.10.pdf -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the latest H264
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Cottham
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed), and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> + video rooms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting started.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki, but it****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off... Can someone****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>>
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Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Hello Marius, unfortunately my first fix for this issue was incomplete
You need r1456794 or later :(
probably browser cache should be cleaned to ensure changes are in effect
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry, scratch that. The old version also doesn't work anymore for me,
> which implies that I changed something to my system that has an influence
> on it. Not sure what yet.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I just tried running 1456769, which includes your new fix, and now I'm
>> not getting the video configuration window at all. Nothing happens upon
>> joining, and hitting the little green arrows does nothing either.
>>
>> I'm running Windows 7, JRE 6.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> "black box" should be fixed now
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-563
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> to be fair I never used this script (both win or *nix)
>>>> I would recommend to switch from derby to other db, this will free java
>>>> resources ....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Setting Xms to 768m seems to work:
>>>>>
>>>>> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms768m -Xmn512m -Xss256k -XX:+AggressiveOpts
>>>>> -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4 -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC
>>>>> -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90
>>>>> -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31 -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that this is 64bit jre6, on windows 7. Not sure if that's
>>>>> relevant.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Marius
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The issue might be related to that there's an "m" missing from the
>>>>>> end of "-Xms256". Note that this is freshly downloaded from
>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/.
>>>>>> Adding the "m" gives me a slightly different error now:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>>>>>> Too small initial heap for new size specified
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know what the problem is now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay, makes sense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> red5-highperf gives me this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>>>>>>> Too small initial heap
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The JAVA_OPTS listed in red5-highperf are:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms256 -Xmn512m -Xss256k
>>>>>>> -XX:+AggressiveOpts -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4
>>>>>>> -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16
>>>>>>> -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31
>>>>>>> -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The idea users use appointments/private rooms and invite others ...
>>>>>>>> Only Admin can create public rooms
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> try to run with red5-highperf as first step
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Heh yeah, sorry about that :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Okay, so the basics are working okay. Email verification is turned
>>>>>>>>> off, and upon login the user is dropped in the public room tab.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here's the next set of questions:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. Can I allow users to create public rooms by themselves? Or is
>>>>>>>>> the "idea" of OpenMeetings that they'll use the private rooms for this and
>>>>>>>>> then invite people?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2. Is this a simple out of memory error, or something more
>>>>>>>>> serious? How do I give java more memory? (I'm assuming it's a flag I'll
>>>>>>>>> need to set in red5.bat. Will that Just Work™?)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread
>>>>>>>>> "org.springframework.scheduling.quartz.SchedulerFactoryBean#0_QuartzSchedulerThread"
>>>>>>>>> [WARN] [NioProc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> essor-3] org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler - Exception
>>>>>>>>> caught PermGen space
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space[INFO] [NioProcessor-3]
>>>>>>>>> org.red5.server.net.rtmp.codec.RTMPProtocolDecoder - Ac
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> tion userservice.refreshSession
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "http-bio-0.0.0.0-5080-exec-8"
>>>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "pool-6-thread-2" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
>>>>>>>>> PermGen space
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> get it :) you are right it is offtopic
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm referring to https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What page are you refering to?
>>>>>>>>>>>> every OM user can set its own language in the profile ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that page
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bothers me quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> O_O)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.1 can be downloaded from here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recompile flash to achieve this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get it installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following the 3 steps on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more in line with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user, where they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chatting. I don't need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. Then for me as the server host I have the problem that I can't find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out how I'm supposed to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is customizable? How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intuitive overview.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a step in the right direction. However, the latest official release is 2.0.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any binaries for 2.1?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings hard: Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your webcam view in the setup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and "Choose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> micro", just have it default to the first option in the list the first time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you start. For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a *constant live feed*. The black rectangle suggests that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the cam is not working!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing, here are a number of directed questions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other than what's sprinkled across the unstructured wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video feeds embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> height of the chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this possible at all without recompiling the source?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification requirement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when making an account?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up, of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course, but we'll get to them later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Very good!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default.landing.zone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list and rooms may appear like Dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camera. The popular Skype has a setting more complicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than OpenMeetings. But I do not collect persistents
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users' negative reports about this routine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some issues relevant to the detriment of priority
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functions. For example, in everyday usage logging is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unnecessary repetitive and also the default presentation in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the first half of the dashboard. These two points are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already solved with the "remember me" and now with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displaying lists of rooms instead of traditional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flux interface. I suggest a review of it to help
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eliminate the excesses in the OM GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complex for first time users, or users who only infrequently use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administrator’s Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change the default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g. to the Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings to open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do is select the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the user clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into the meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for which Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version 2.1 running at the moment on which I could check.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficulty entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administrator. I see that users have difficulty with the current interface
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Login and Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have too many options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you saying its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flash and the general GUI?****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that a simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings. Exactly why escapes the interface itself.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ***
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 12.10.pdf -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the latest H264
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Cottham
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed), and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video rooms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting started.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki, but it****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Marius <nu...@gmail.com>.
Sorry, scratch that. The old version also doesn't work anymore for me,
which implies that I changed something to my system that has an influence
on it. Not sure what yet.
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just tried running 1456769, which includes your new fix, and now I'm not
> getting the video configuration window at all. Nothing happens upon
> joining, and hitting the little green arrows does nothing either.
>
> I'm running Windows 7, JRE 6.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> "black box" should be fixed now
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-563
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> to be fair I never used this script (both win or *nix)
>>> I would recommend to switch from derby to other db, this will free java
>>> resources ....
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Setting Xms to 768m seems to work:
>>>>
>>>> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms768m -Xmn512m -Xss256k -XX:+AggressiveOpts
>>>> -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4 -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC
>>>> -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90
>>>> -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31 -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>>>>
>>>> Note that this is 64bit jre6, on windows 7. Not sure if that's relevant.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Marius
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The issue might be related to that there's an "m" missing from the end
>>>>> of "-Xms256". Note that this is freshly downloaded from
>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/.
>>>>> Adding the "m" gives me a slightly different error now:
>>>>>
>>>>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>>>>> Too small initial heap for new size specified
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know what the problem is now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Marius
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay, makes sense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> red5-highperf gives me this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>>>>>> Too small initial heap
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The JAVA_OPTS listed in red5-highperf are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms256 -Xmn512m -Xss256k -XX:+AggressiveOpts
>>>>>> -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4 -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC
>>>>>> -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90
>>>>>> -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31 -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The idea users use appointments/private rooms and invite others ...
>>>>>>> Only Admin can create public rooms
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> try to run with red5-highperf as first step
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Heh yeah, sorry about that :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Okay, so the basics are working okay. Email verification is turned
>>>>>>>> off, and upon login the user is dropped in the public room tab.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's the next set of questions:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. Can I allow users to create public rooms by themselves? Or is
>>>>>>>> the "idea" of OpenMeetings that they'll use the private rooms for this and
>>>>>>>> then invite people?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2. Is this a simple out of memory error, or something more serious?
>>>>>>>> How do I give java more memory? (I'm assuming it's a flag I'll need to set
>>>>>>>> in red5.bat. Will that Just Work™?)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Exception in thread
>>>>>>>> "org.springframework.scheduling.quartz.SchedulerFactoryBean#0_QuartzSchedulerThread"
>>>>>>>> [WARN] [NioProc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> essor-3] org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler - Exception
>>>>>>>> caught PermGen space
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space[INFO] [NioProcessor-3]
>>>>>>>> org.red5.server.net.rtmp.codec.RTMPProtocolDecoder - Ac
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> tion userservice.refreshSession
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "http-bio-0.0.0.0-5080-exec-8"
>>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "pool-6-thread-2" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
>>>>>>>> PermGen space
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> get it :) you are right it is offtopic
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm referring to https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What page are you refering to?
>>>>>>>>>>> every OM user can set its own language in the profile ....
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Marius <nuntius.marii@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that page
>>>>>>>>>>>> bothers me quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch it
>>>>>>>>>>>> O_O)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.1 can be downloaded from here
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recompile flash to achieve this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get it installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following the 3 steps on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more in line with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user, where they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chatting. I don't need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. Then for me as the server host I have the problem that I can't find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out how I'm supposed to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is customizable? How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intuitive overview.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and that's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step in the right direction. However, the latest official release is 2.0.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any binaries for 2.1?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings hard: Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your webcam view in the setup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and "Choose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> micro", just have it default to the first option in the list the first time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you start. For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle by a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *constant live feed*. The black rectangle suggests that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cam is not working!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing, here are a number of directed questions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing, other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than what's sprinkled across the unstructured wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video feeds embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> height of the chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this possible at all without recompiling the source?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification requirement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when making an account?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up, of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course, but we'll get to them later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Very good!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default.landing.zone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and rooms may appear like Dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camera. The popular Skype has a setting more complicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than OpenMeetings. But I do not collect persistents users'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> negative reports about this routine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some issues relevant to the detriment of priority
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functions. For example, in everyday usage logging is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unnecessary repetitive and also the default presentation in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the first half of the dashboard. These two points are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already solved with the "remember me" and now with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displaying lists of rooms instead of traditional dashboard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flux interface. I suggest a review of it to help eliminate the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excesses in the OM GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complex for first time users, or users who only infrequently use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administrator’s Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change the default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g. to the Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings to open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do is select the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the user clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into the meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for which Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version 2.1 running at the moment on which I could check.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficulty entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administrator. I see that users have difficulty with the current interface
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Login and Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have too many options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you saying its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flash and the general GUI?****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that a simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly why escapes the interface itself.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 12.10.pdf -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the latest H264
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed), and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video rooms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting started.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki, but it****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Marius <nu...@gmail.com>.
I just tried running 1456769, which includes your new fix, and now I'm not
getting the video configuration window at all. Nothing happens upon
joining, and hitting the little green arrows does nothing either.
I'm running Windows 7, JRE 6.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
> "black box" should be fixed now
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-563
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> to be fair I never used this script (both win or *nix)
>> I would recommend to switch from derby to other db, this will free java
>> resources ....
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Setting Xms to 768m seems to work:
>>>
>>> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms768m -Xmn512m -Xss256k -XX:+AggressiveOpts
>>> -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4 -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC
>>> -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90
>>> -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31 -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>>>
>>> Note that this is 64bit jre6, on windows 7. Not sure if that's relevant.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Marius
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> The issue might be related to that there's an "m" missing from the end
>>>> of "-Xms256". Note that this is freshly downloaded from
>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/.
>>>> Adding the "m" gives me a slightly different error now:
>>>>
>>>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>>>> Too small initial heap for new size specified
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what the problem is now.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Marius
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Okay, makes sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> red5-highperf gives me this:
>>>>>
>>>>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>>>>> Too small initial heap
>>>>>
>>>>> The JAVA_OPTS listed in red5-highperf are:
>>>>>
>>>>> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms256 -Xmn512m -Xss256k -XX:+AggressiveOpts
>>>>> -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4 -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC
>>>>> -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90
>>>>> -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31 -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Marius
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The idea users use appointments/private rooms and invite others ...
>>>>>> Only Admin can create public rooms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> try to run with red5-highperf as first step
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heh yeah, sorry about that :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay, so the basics are working okay. Email verification is turned
>>>>>>> off, and upon login the user is dropped in the public room tab.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's the next set of questions:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Can I allow users to create public rooms by themselves? Or is the
>>>>>>> "idea" of OpenMeetings that they'll use the private rooms for this and then
>>>>>>> invite people?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Is this a simple out of memory error, or something more serious?
>>>>>>> How do I give java more memory? (I'm assuming it's a flag I'll need to set
>>>>>>> in red5.bat. Will that Just Work™?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Exception in thread
>>>>>>> "org.springframework.scheduling.quartz.SchedulerFactoryBean#0_QuartzSchedulerThread"
>>>>>>> [WARN] [NioProc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> essor-3] org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler - Exception
>>>>>>> caught PermGen space
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space[INFO] [NioProcessor-3]
>>>>>>> org.red5.server.net.rtmp.codec.RTMPProtocolDecoder - Ac
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tion userservice.refreshSession
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Exception in thread "http-bio-0.0.0.0-5080-exec-8"
>>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Exception in thread "pool-6-thread-2" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
>>>>>>> PermGen space
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> get it :) you are right it is offtopic
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm referring to https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What page are you refering to?
>>>>>>>>>> every OM user can set its own language in the profile ....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that page
>>>>>>>>>>> bothers me quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch it
>>>>>>>>>>> O_O)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.1 can be downloaded from here
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and
>>>>>>>>>>>> recompile flash to achieve this
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <
>>>>>>>>>>>> nuntius.marii@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get it installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>> following the 3 steps on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html .
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in line with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the user,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> where they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start chatting. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar, etc. Then for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> me as the server host I have the problem that I can't find out how I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have, what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> customizable? How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> intuitive overview.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and that's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> step in the right direction. However, the latest official release is 2.0.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any binaries for 2.1?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings hard: Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your webcam view in the setup.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and "Choose
>>>>>>>>>>>>> micro", just have it default to the first option in the list the first time
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you start. For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle by a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *constant live feed*. The black rectangle suggests that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cam is not working!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing, here are a number of directed questions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing, other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than what's sprinkled across the unstructured wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> video feeds embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> height of the chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this possible at all without recompiling the source?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification requirement
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when making an account?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up, of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> course, but we'll get to them later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Very good!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default.landing.zone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and rooms may appear like Dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camera. The popular Skype has a setting more complicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than OpenMeetings. But I do not collect persistents users'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> negative reports about this routine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some issues relevant to the detriment of priority functions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . For example, in everyday usage logging is unnecessary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repetitive and also the default presentation in the first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> half of the dashboard. These two points are already solved with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the "remember me" and now with displaying lists of rooms instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of traditional dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flux interface. I suggest a review of it to help eliminate the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excesses in the OM GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too complex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for first time users, or users who only infrequently use the interface.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administrator’s Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change the default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g. to the Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings to open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do is select the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the user clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into the meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for which Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version 2.1 running at the moment on which I could check.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ***
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficulty entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administrator. I see that users have difficulty with the current interface
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Login and Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have too many options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you saying its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flash and the general GUI?****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that a simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly why escapes the interface itself.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12.10.pdf -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the latest H264
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Cottham
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: +6173 319 2799
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web: www.robertbird.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be waived by the sending of this email. The contents of this email,
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)*****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the sender or its related entities accepts any liability for any
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed), and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video rooms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting started.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki, but it****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
"black box" should be fixed now
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-563
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
> to be fair I never used this script (both win or *nix)
> I would recommend to switch from derby to other db, this will free java
> resources ....
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Setting Xms to 768m seems to work:
>>
>> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms768m -Xmn512m -Xss256k -XX:+AggressiveOpts
>> -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4 -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC
>> -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90
>> -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31 -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>>
>> Note that this is 64bit jre6, on windows 7. Not sure if that's relevant.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Marius
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The issue might be related to that there's an "m" missing from the end
>>> of "-Xms256". Note that this is freshly downloaded from
>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/.
>>> Adding the "m" gives me a slightly different error now:
>>>
>>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>>> Too small initial heap for new size specified
>>>
>>> I don't know what the problem is now.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Marius
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Okay, makes sense.
>>>>
>>>> red5-highperf gives me this:
>>>>
>>>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>>>> Too small initial heap
>>>>
>>>> The JAVA_OPTS listed in red5-highperf are:
>>>>
>>>> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms256 -Xmn512m -Xss256k -XX:+AggressiveOpts
>>>> -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4 -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC
>>>> -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90
>>>> -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31 -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Marius
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The idea users use appointments/private rooms and invite others ...
>>>>> Only Admin can create public rooms
>>>>>
>>>>> try to run with red5-highperf as first step
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Heh yeah, sorry about that :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay, so the basics are working okay. Email verification is turned
>>>>>> off, and upon login the user is dropped in the public room tab.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's the next set of questions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Can I allow users to create public rooms by themselves? Or is the
>>>>>> "idea" of OpenMeetings that they'll use the private rooms for this and then
>>>>>> invite people?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Is this a simple out of memory error, or something more serious?
>>>>>> How do I give java more memory? (I'm assuming it's a flag I'll need to set
>>>>>> in red5.bat. Will that Just Work™?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Exception in thread
>>>>>> "org.springframework.scheduling.quartz.SchedulerFactoryBean#0_QuartzSchedulerThread"
>>>>>> [WARN] [NioProc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> essor-3] org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler - Exception
>>>>>> caught PermGen space
>>>>>>
>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space[INFO] [NioProcessor-3]
>>>>>> org.red5.server.net.rtmp.codec.RTMPProtocolDecoder - Ac
>>>>>>
>>>>>> tion userservice.refreshSession
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Exception in thread "http-bio-0.0.0.0-5080-exec-8"
>>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Exception in thread "pool-6-thread-2" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
>>>>>> PermGen space
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> get it :) you are right it is offtopic
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm referring to https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What page are you refering to?
>>>>>>>>> every OM user can set its own language in the profile ....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that page
>>>>>>>>>> bothers me quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch it
>>>>>>>>>> O_O)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2.1 can be downloaded from here
>>>>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and
>>>>>>>>>>> recompile flash to achieve this
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <nuntius.marii@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed to get
>>>>>>>>>>>> it installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply following
>>>>>>>>>>>> the 3 steps on http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html.
>>>>>>>>>>>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed more
>>>>>>>>>>>> in line with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the user,
>>>>>>>>>>>> where they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start chatting. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar, etc. Then for
>>>>>>>>>>>> me as the server host I have the problem that I can't find out how I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have, what is
>>>>>>>>>>>> customizable? How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an
>>>>>>>>>>>> intuitive overview.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and that's a
>>>>>>>>>>>> step in the right direction. However, the latest official release is 2.0.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any binaries for 2.1?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings hard: Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you
>>>>>>>>>>>> your webcam view in the setup.
>>>>>>>>>>>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and "Choose
>>>>>>>>>>>> micro", just have it default to the first option in the list the first time
>>>>>>>>>>>> you start. For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle by a *constant
>>>>>>>>>>>> live feed*. The black rectangle suggests that the cam is not
>>>>>>>>>>>> working!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire thing,
>>>>>>>>>>>> here are a number of directed questions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing, other
>>>>>>>>>>>> than what's sprinkled across the unstructured wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have the
>>>>>>>>>>>> video feeds embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the
>>>>>>>>>>>> height of the chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this possible at all without recompiling the source?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification requirement when
>>>>>>>>>>>> making an account?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up, of
>>>>>>>>>>>> course, but we'll get to them later.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Very good!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default.landing.zone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and rooms may appear like Dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camera. The popular Skype has a setting more complicated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than OpenMeetings. But I do not collect persistents users'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> negative reports about this routine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some issues relevant to the detriment of priority functions. For
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example, in everyday usage logging is unnecessary repetitivea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nd also the default presentation in the first half of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dashboard. These two points are already solved with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "remember me" and now with displaying lists of rooms instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of traditional dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flux interface. I suggest a review of it to help eliminate the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excesses in the OM GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too complex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for first time users, or users who only infrequently use the interface.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administrator’s Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change the default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g. to the Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings to open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do is select the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into the meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for which Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version 2.1 running at the moment on which I could check.**
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficulty entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administrator. I see that users have difficulty with the current interface
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Login and Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have too many options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saying its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using flash
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the general GUI?****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that a simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly why escapes the interface itself.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12.10.pdf -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latest H264
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Cottham
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed), and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video rooms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting started.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki, but it****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
to be fair I never used this script (both win or *nix)
I would recommend to switch from derby to other db, this will free java
resources ....
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Setting Xms to 768m seems to work:
>
> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms768m -Xmn512m -Xss256k -XX:+AggressiveOpts
> -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4 -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC
> -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90
> -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31 -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>
> Note that this is 64bit jre6, on windows 7. Not sure if that's relevant.
>
> Cheers,
> Marius
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The issue might be related to that there's an "m" missing from the end of
>> "-Xms256". Note that this is freshly downloaded from
>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/.
>> Adding the "m" gives me a slightly different error now:
>>
>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>> Too small initial heap for new size specified
>>
>> I don't know what the problem is now.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Marius
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, makes sense.
>>>
>>> red5-highperf gives me this:
>>>
>>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>>> Too small initial heap
>>>
>>> The JAVA_OPTS listed in red5-highperf are:
>>>
>>> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms256 -Xmn512m -Xss256k -XX:+AggressiveOpts
>>> -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4 -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC
>>> -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90
>>> -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31 -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Marius
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> The idea users use appointments/private rooms and invite others ...
>>>> Only Admin can create public rooms
>>>>
>>>> try to run with red5-highperf as first step
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Heh yeah, sorry about that :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, so the basics are working okay. Email verification is turned
>>>>> off, and upon login the user is dropped in the public room tab.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the next set of questions:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Can I allow users to create public rooms by themselves? Or is the
>>>>> "idea" of OpenMeetings that they'll use the private rooms for this and then
>>>>> invite people?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Is this a simple out of memory error, or something more serious?
>>>>> How do I give java more memory? (I'm assuming it's a flag I'll need to set
>>>>> in red5.bat. Will that Just Work™?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Exception in thread
>>>>> "org.springframework.scheduling.quartz.SchedulerFactoryBean#0_QuartzSchedulerThread"
>>>>> [WARN] [NioProc
>>>>>
>>>>> essor-3] org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler - Exception caught
>>>>> PermGen space
>>>>>
>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space[INFO] [NioProcessor-3]
>>>>> org.red5.server.net.rtmp.codec.RTMPProtocolDecoder - Ac
>>>>>
>>>>> tion userservice.refreshSession
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Exception in thread "http-bio-0.0.0.0-5080-exec-8"
>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
>>>>>
>>>>> Exception in thread "pool-6-thread-2" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
>>>>> PermGen space
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Marius
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> get it :) you are right it is offtopic
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm referring to https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What page are you refering to?
>>>>>>>> every OM user can set its own language in the profile ....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that page
>>>>>>>>> bothers me quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch it
>>>>>>>>> O_O)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2.1 can be downloaded from here
>>>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and recompile
>>>>>>>>>> flash to achieve this
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed to get
>>>>>>>>>>> it installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply following
>>>>>>>>>>> the 3 steps on http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html.
>>>>>>>>>>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed more
>>>>>>>>>>> in line with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the user,
>>>>>>>>>>> where they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start chatting. I
>>>>>>>>>>> don't need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar, etc. Then for
>>>>>>>>>>> me as the server host I have the problem that I can't find out how I'm
>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have, what is
>>>>>>>>>>> customizable? How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an
>>>>>>>>>>> intuitive overview.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and that's a
>>>>>>>>>>> step in the right direction. However, the latest official release is 2.0.
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any binaries for 2.1?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and OpenMeetings
>>>>>>>>>>> hard: Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you your webcam
>>>>>>>>>>> view in the setup.
>>>>>>>>>>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and "Choose
>>>>>>>>>>> micro", just have it default to the first option in the list the first time
>>>>>>>>>>> you start. For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
>>>>>>>>>>> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle by a *constant
>>>>>>>>>>> live feed*. The black rectangle suggests that the cam is not
>>>>>>>>>>> working!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire thing,
>>>>>>>>>>> here are a number of directed questions:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing, other
>>>>>>>>>>> than what's sprinkled across the unstructured wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
>>>>>>>>>>> the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have the
>>>>>>>>>>> video feeds embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the
>>>>>>>>>>> height of the chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all.
>>>>>>>>>>> Is this possible at all without recompiling the source?
>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification requirement when
>>>>>>>>>>> making an account?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up, of
>>>>>>>>>>> course, but we'll get to them later.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Very good!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> default.landing.zone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and rooms may appear like Dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the camera.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The popular Skype has a setting more complicated than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings. But I do not collect persistents users'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> negative reports about this routine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues relevant to the detriment of priority functions. For
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example, in everyday usage logging is unnecessary repetitivea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nd also the default presentation in the first half of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dashboard. These two points are already solved with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "remember me" and now with displaying lists of rooms instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of traditional dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flux interface. I suggest a review of it to help eliminate the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excesses in the OM GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too complex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for first time users, or users who only infrequently use the interface.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administrator’s Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change the default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g. to the Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings to open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do is select the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into the meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have a version
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.1 running at the moment on which I could check.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficulty entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administrator. I see that users have difficulty with the current interface
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Login and Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have too many options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saying its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using flash
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the general GUI?****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that a simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly why escapes the interface itself.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <Stephen.Cottham@robertbird.com.au
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12.10.pdf -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latest H264
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Cottham
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: +6173 319 2799
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web: www.robertbird.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contain legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recipient, please contact us immediately by return email and then delete
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed), and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video rooms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting started.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
--
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Maxim aka solomax
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Marius <nu...@gmail.com>.
Setting Xms to 768m seems to work:
set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms768m -Xmn512m -Xss256k -XX:+AggressiveOpts
-XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4 -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC
-XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90
-XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31 -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
Note that this is 64bit jre6, on windows 7. Not sure if that's relevant.
Cheers,
Marius
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The issue might be related to that there's an "m" missing from the end of
> "-Xms256". Note that this is freshly downloaded from
> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/.
> Adding the "m" gives me a slightly different error now:
>
> Error occurred during initialization of VM
> Too small initial heap for new size specified
>
> I don't know what the problem is now.
>
> Cheers,
> Marius
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Okay, makes sense.
>>
>> red5-highperf gives me this:
>>
>> Error occurred during initialization of VM
>> Too small initial heap
>>
>> The JAVA_OPTS listed in red5-highperf are:
>>
>> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms256 -Xmn512m -Xss256k -XX:+AggressiveOpts
>> -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4 -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC
>> -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90
>> -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31 -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Marius
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> The idea users use appointments/private rooms and invite others ...
>>> Only Admin can create public rooms
>>>
>>> try to run with red5-highperf as first step
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Heh yeah, sorry about that :)
>>>>
>>>> Okay, so the basics are working okay. Email verification is turned off,
>>>> and upon login the user is dropped in the public room tab.
>>>>
>>>> Here's the next set of questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Can I allow users to create public rooms by themselves? Or is the
>>>> "idea" of OpenMeetings that they'll use the private rooms for this and then
>>>> invite people?
>>>>
>>>> 2. Is this a simple out of memory error, or something more serious? How
>>>> do I give java more memory? (I'm assuming it's a flag I'll need to set in
>>>> red5.bat. Will that Just Work™?)
>>>>
>>>> Exception in thread
>>>> "org.springframework.scheduling.quartz.SchedulerFactoryBean#0_QuartzSchedulerThread"
>>>> [WARN] [NioProc
>>>>
>>>> essor-3] org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler - Exception caught
>>>> PermGen space
>>>>
>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space[INFO] [NioProcessor-3]
>>>> org.red5.server.net.rtmp.codec.RTMPProtocolDecoder - Ac
>>>>
>>>> tion userservice.refreshSession
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Exception in thread "http-bio-0.0.0.0-5080-exec-8"
>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
>>>>
>>>> Exception in thread "pool-6-thread-2" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
>>>> PermGen space
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Marius
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> get it :) you are right it is offtopic
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm referring to https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What page are you refering to?
>>>>>>> every OM user can set its own language in the profile ....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that page
>>>>>>>> bothers me quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch it
>>>>>>>> O_O)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2.1 can be downloaded from here
>>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>>> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and recompile
>>>>>>>>> flash to achieve this
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed to get
>>>>>>>>>> it installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply following
>>>>>>>>>> the 3 steps on http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html .
>>>>>>>>>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed more in
>>>>>>>>>> line with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the user,
>>>>>>>>>> where they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start chatting. I
>>>>>>>>>> don't need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar, etc. Then for
>>>>>>>>>> me as the server host I have the problem that I can't find out how I'm
>>>>>>>>>> supposed to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have, what is
>>>>>>>>>> customizable? How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an
>>>>>>>>>> intuitive overview.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and that's a
>>>>>>>>>> step in the right direction. However, the latest official release is 2.0.
>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any binaries for 2.1?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and OpenMeetings
>>>>>>>>>> hard: Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you your webcam
>>>>>>>>>> view in the setup.
>>>>>>>>>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and "Choose
>>>>>>>>>> micro", just have it default to the first option in the list the first time
>>>>>>>>>> you start. For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
>>>>>>>>>> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle by a *constant
>>>>>>>>>> live feed*. The black rectangle suggests that the cam is not
>>>>>>>>>> working!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire thing,
>>>>>>>>>> here are a number of directed questions:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing, other
>>>>>>>>>> than what's sprinkled across the unstructured wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
>>>>>>>>>> the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have the
>>>>>>>>>> video feeds embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the
>>>>>>>>>> height of the chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all.
>>>>>>>>>> Is this possible at all without recompiling the source?
>>>>>>>>>> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification requirement when
>>>>>>>>>> making an account?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up, of
>>>>>>>>>> course, but we'll get to them later.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Very good!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> default.landing.zone
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the list and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rooms may appear like Dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the camera.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The popular Skype has a setting more complicated than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings. But I do not collect persistents users' negative
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reports about this routine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting some
>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues relevant to the detriment of priority functions. For
>>>>>>>>>>>>> example, in everyday usage logging is unnecessary repetitive a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nd also the default presentation in the first half of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dashboard. These two points are already solved with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "remember me" and now with displaying lists of rooms instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of traditional dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great flux
>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface. I suggest a review of it to help eliminate the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> excesses in the OM GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too complex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for first time users, or users who only infrequently use the interface.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administrator’s Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change the default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g. to the Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings to open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do is select the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into the meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have a version
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.1 running at the moment on which I could check.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficulty entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administrator. I see that users have difficulty with the current interface
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Login and Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have too many options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saying its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using flash
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the general GUI?****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly why escapes the interface itself.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12.10.pdf -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latest H264
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Cottham
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: +6173 319 2799
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web: www.robertbird.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contain legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expressly stated, confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be waived by the sending of this email. The contents of this email,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> including any attachments, are intended solely for the use of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recipient, please contact us immediately by return email and then delete
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both messages. You may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this email or any attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the individual sender except where the sender expressly, and with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authority, states otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attachments for viruses or defects before opening or sending them on. None
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the sender or its related entities accepts any liability for any
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disclaimer added by CodeTwo Exchange Rules
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.codetwo.com****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Stephen Cottham**
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)*****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contain legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expressly stated, confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be waived by the sending of this email. The contents of this email,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> including any attachments, are intended solely for the use of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recipient, please contact us immediately by return email and then delete
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both messages. You may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this email or any attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the individual sender except where the sender expressly, and with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authority, states otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attachments for viruses or defects before opening or sending them on. None
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the sender or its related entities accepts any liability for any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consequential damage resulting from this email containing computer viruses.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disclaimer added by *CodeTwo Exchange Rules*****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed), and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat +
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video rooms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Marius <nu...@gmail.com>.
The issue might be related to that there's an "m" missing from the end of
"-Xms256". Note that this is freshly downloaded from
https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/.
Adding the "m" gives me a slightly different error now:
Error occurred during initialization of VM
Too small initial heap for new size specified
I don't know what the problem is now.
Cheers,
Marius
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Okay, makes sense.
>
> red5-highperf gives me this:
>
> Error occurred during initialization of VM
> Too small initial heap
>
> The JAVA_OPTS listed in red5-highperf are:
>
> set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms256 -Xmn512m -Xss256k -XX:+AggressiveOpts
> -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4 -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC
> -XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90
> -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31 -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
>
> Cheers,
> Marius
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> The idea users use appointments/private rooms and invite others ...
>> Only Admin can create public rooms
>>
>> try to run with red5-highperf as first step
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Heh yeah, sorry about that :)
>>>
>>> Okay, so the basics are working okay. Email verification is turned off,
>>> and upon login the user is dropped in the public room tab.
>>>
>>> Here's the next set of questions:
>>>
>>> 1. Can I allow users to create public rooms by themselves? Or is the
>>> "idea" of OpenMeetings that they'll use the private rooms for this and then
>>> invite people?
>>>
>>> 2. Is this a simple out of memory error, or something more serious? How
>>> do I give java more memory? (I'm assuming it's a flag I'll need to set in
>>> red5.bat. Will that Just Work™?)
>>>
>>> Exception in thread
>>> "org.springframework.scheduling.quartz.SchedulerFactoryBean#0_QuartzSchedulerThread"
>>> [WARN] [NioProc
>>>
>>> essor-3] org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler - Exception caught
>>> PermGen space
>>>
>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space[INFO] [NioProcessor-3]
>>> org.red5.server.net.rtmp.codec.RTMPProtocolDecoder - Ac
>>>
>>> tion userservice.refreshSession
>>>
>>>
>>> Exception in thread "http-bio-0.0.0.0-5080-exec-8"
>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
>>>
>>> Exception in thread "pool-6-thread-2" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError:
>>> PermGen space
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Marius
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> get it :) you are right it is offtopic
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm referring to https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What page are you refering to?
>>>>>> every OM user can set its own language in the profile ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that page
>>>>>>> bothers me quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch it
>>>>>>> O_O)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2.1 can be downloaded from here
>>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>>> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and recompile
>>>>>>>> flash to achieve this
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed to get it
>>>>>>>>> installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply following the 3
>>>>>>>>> steps on http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html .
>>>>>>>>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed more in
>>>>>>>>> line with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the user,
>>>>>>>>> where they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start chatting. I
>>>>>>>>> don't need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar, etc. Then for
>>>>>>>>> me as the server host I have the problem that I can't find out how I'm
>>>>>>>>> supposed to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have, what is
>>>>>>>>> customizable? How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an
>>>>>>>>> intuitive overview.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and that's a step
>>>>>>>>> in the right direction. However, the latest official release is 2.0. Do you
>>>>>>>>> have any binaries for 2.1?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and OpenMeetings
>>>>>>>>> hard: Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you your webcam
>>>>>>>>> view in the setup.
>>>>>>>>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and "Choose
>>>>>>>>> micro", just have it default to the first option in the list the first time
>>>>>>>>> you start. For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
>>>>>>>>> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle by a *constant
>>>>>>>>> live feed*. The black rectangle suggests that the cam is not
>>>>>>>>> working!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire thing,
>>>>>>>>> here are a number of directed questions:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing, other than
>>>>>>>>> what's sprinkled across the unstructured wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
>>>>>>>>> the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have the video
>>>>>>>>> feeds embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the height of
>>>>>>>>> the chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all. Is this
>>>>>>>>> possible at all without recompiling the source?
>>>>>>>>> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification requirement when
>>>>>>>>> making an account?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up, of course,
>>>>>>>>> but we'll get to them later.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Very good!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> default.landing.zone
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the list and
>>>>>>>>>>>> rooms may appear like Dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the camera.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The popular Skype has a setting more complicated than
>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings. But I do not collect persistents users' negative
>>>>>>>>>>>> reports about this routine.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting some
>>>>>>>>>>>> issues relevant to the detriment of priority functions. For
>>>>>>>>>>>> example, in everyday usage logging is unnecessary repetitive a
>>>>>>>>>>>> nd also the default presentation in the first half of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> dashboard. These two points are already solved with the
>>>>>>>>>>>> "remember me" and now with displaying lists of rooms instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>> traditional dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great flux
>>>>>>>>>>>> interface. I suggest a review of it to help eliminate the
>>>>>>>>>>>> excesses in the OM GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too complex for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> first time users, or users who only infrequently use the interface.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Administrator’s Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> change the default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g. to the Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings to open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do is select the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> user clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> into the meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ***
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have a version
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.1 running at the moment on which I could check.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had
>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficulty entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> administrator. I see that users have difficulty with the current interface
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Login and Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have too many options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ***
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> saying its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using flash
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the general GUI?****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly why escapes the interface itself.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ***
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12.10.pdf -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> latest H264
>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Cottham
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: +6173 319 2799
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web: www.robertbird.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contain legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>> expressly stated, confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be waived by the sending of this email. The contents of this email,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> including any attachments, are intended solely for the use of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recipient, please contact us immediately by return email and then delete
>>>>>>>>>>>>> both messages. You may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this email or any attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the individual sender except where the sender expressly, and with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> authority, states otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> attachments for viruses or defects before opening or sending them on. None
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the sender or its related entities accepts any liability for any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> consequential damage resulting from this email containing computer viruses.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disclaimer added by CodeTwo Exchange Rules
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.codetwo.com****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Stephen Cottham**
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)*****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/>****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contain legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>> expressly stated, confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be waived by the sending of this email. The contents of this email,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> including any attachments, are intended solely for the use of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recipient, please contact us immediately by return email and then delete
>>>>>>>>>>>>> both messages. You may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this email or any attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the individual sender except where the sender expressly, and with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> authority, states otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> attachments for viruses or defects before opening or sending them on. None
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the sender or its related entities accepts any liability for any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> consequential damage resulting from this email containing computer viruses.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disclaimer added by *CodeTwo Exchange Rules*****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.codetwo.com****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration
>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed), and get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rooms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> started.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be very
>>>>>>>>>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Marius <nu...@gmail.com>.
Okay, makes sense.
red5-highperf gives me this:
Error occurred during initialization of VM
Too small initial heap
The JAVA_OPTS listed in red5-highperf are:
set JAVA_OPTS= -Xmx768m -Xms256 -Xmn512m -Xss256k -XX:+AggressiveOpts
-XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:ParallelGCThreads=4 -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC
-XX:+UseParNewGC -XX:SurvivorRatio=16 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90
-XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=31 -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
Cheers,
Marius
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
> The idea users use appointments/private rooms and invite others ...
> Only Admin can create public rooms
>
> try to run with red5-highperf as first step
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Heh yeah, sorry about that :)
>>
>> Okay, so the basics are working okay. Email verification is turned off,
>> and upon login the user is dropped in the public room tab.
>>
>> Here's the next set of questions:
>>
>> 1. Can I allow users to create public rooms by themselves? Or is the
>> "idea" of OpenMeetings that they'll use the private rooms for this and then
>> invite people?
>>
>> 2. Is this a simple out of memory error, or something more serious? How
>> do I give java more memory? (I'm assuming it's a flag I'll need to set in
>> red5.bat. Will that Just Work™?)
>>
>> Exception in thread
>> "org.springframework.scheduling.quartz.SchedulerFactoryBean#0_QuartzSchedulerThread"
>> [WARN] [NioProc
>>
>> essor-3] org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler - Exception caught
>> PermGen space
>>
>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space[INFO] [NioProcessor-3]
>> org.red5.server.net.rtmp.codec.RTMPProtocolDecoder - Ac
>>
>> tion userservice.refreshSession
>>
>>
>> Exception in thread "http-bio-0.0.0.0-5080-exec-8"
>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
>>
>> Exception in thread "pool-6-thread-2" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen
>> space
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Marius
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> get it :) you are right it is offtopic
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm referring to https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What page are you refering to?
>>>>> every OM user can set its own language in the profile ....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that page
>>>>>> bothers me quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch it
>>>>>> O_O)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2.1 can be downloaded from here
>>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>>> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and recompile
>>>>>>> flash to achieve this
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed to get it
>>>>>>>> installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply following the 3
>>>>>>>> steps on http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html .
>>>>>>>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed more in
>>>>>>>> line with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the user,
>>>>>>>> where they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start chatting. I
>>>>>>>> don't need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar, etc. Then for
>>>>>>>> me as the server host I have the problem that I can't find out how I'm
>>>>>>>> supposed to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have, what is
>>>>>>>> customizable? How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an
>>>>>>>> intuitive overview.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and that's a step
>>>>>>>> in the right direction. However, the latest official release is 2.0. Do you
>>>>>>>> have any binaries for 2.1?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and OpenMeetings
>>>>>>>> hard: Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you your webcam
>>>>>>>> view in the setup.
>>>>>>>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and "Choose micro",
>>>>>>>> just have it default to the first option in the list the first time you
>>>>>>>> start. For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
>>>>>>>> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle by a *constant
>>>>>>>> live feed*. The black rectangle suggests that the cam is not
>>>>>>>> working!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire thing,
>>>>>>>> here are a number of directed questions:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing, other than
>>>>>>>> what's sprinkled across the unstructured wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
>>>>>>>> the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have the video
>>>>>>>> feeds embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the height of
>>>>>>>> the chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all. Is this
>>>>>>>> possible at all without recompiling the source?
>>>>>>>> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification requirement when
>>>>>>>> making an account?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up, of course,
>>>>>>>> but we'll get to them later.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <jaimebalb@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes. Very good!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> default.landing.zone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the list and
>>>>>>>>>>> rooms may appear like Dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the camera.
>>>>>>>>>>> The popular Skype has a setting more complicated than
>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings. But I do not collect persistents users' negative
>>>>>>>>>>> reports about this routine.
>>>>>>>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting some
>>>>>>>>>>> issues relevant to the detriment of priority functions. For
>>>>>>>>>>> example, in everyday usage logging is unnecessary repetitive and
>>>>>>>>>>> also the default presentation in the first half of the dashboard
>>>>>>>>>>> . These two points are already solved with the "remember me" and
>>>>>>>>>>> now with displaying lists of rooms instead of traditional
>>>>>>>>>>> dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great flux
>>>>>>>>>>> interface. I suggest a review of it to help eliminate the
>>>>>>>>>>> excesses in the OM GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too complex for
>>>>>>>>>>>> first time users, or users who only infrequently use the interface.
>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Administrator’s Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can
>>>>>>>>>>>> change the default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs,
>>>>>>>>>>>> e.g. to the Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set
>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings to open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has
>>>>>>>>>>>> to do is select the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when the user
>>>>>>>>>>>> clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly into the
>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).****
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting for
>>>>>>>>>>>> which Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have a version
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.1 running at the moment on which I could check.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had
>>>>>>>>>>>> difficulty entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> administrator. I see that users have difficulty with the current interface
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Login and Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they
>>>>>>>>>>>> have too many options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with them.*
>>>>>>>>>>>> ***
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>**
>>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are you
>>>>>>>>>>>> saying its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using flash
>>>>>>>>>>>> and the general GUI?****
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think that a
>>>>>>>>>>>> simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it is
>>>>>>>>>>>> 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly why escapes the interface itself.****
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>**
>>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>>>>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless -
>>>>>>>>>>>> 12.10.pdf -
>>>>>>>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes the
>>>>>>>>>>>> latest H264
>>>>>>>>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Cottham
>>>>>>>>>>>> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>>>>>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>>>>>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Web: www.robertbird.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed),
>>>>>>>>>>>> and get
>>>>>>>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video
>>>>>>>>>>>> rooms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting
>>>>>>>>>>>> started.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki,
>>>>>>>>>>>> but it****
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can
>>>>>>>>>>>> someone****
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would
>>>>>>>>>>>> be very
>>>>>>>>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
The idea users use appointments/private rooms and invite others ...
Only Admin can create public rooms
try to run with red5-highperf as first step
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Heh yeah, sorry about that :)
>
> Okay, so the basics are working okay. Email verification is turned off,
> and upon login the user is dropped in the public room tab.
>
> Here's the next set of questions:
>
> 1. Can I allow users to create public rooms by themselves? Or is the
> "idea" of OpenMeetings that they'll use the private rooms for this and then
> invite people?
>
> 2. Is this a simple out of memory error, or something more serious? How do
> I give java more memory? (I'm assuming it's a flag I'll need to set in
> red5.bat. Will that Just Work™?)
>
> Exception in thread
> "org.springframework.scheduling.quartz.SchedulerFactoryBean#0_QuartzSchedulerThread"
> [WARN] [NioProc
>
> essor-3] org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler - Exception caught
> PermGen space
>
> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space[INFO] [NioProcessor-3]
> org.red5.server.net.rtmp.codec.RTMPProtocolDecoder - Ac
>
> tion userservice.refreshSession
>
>
> Exception in thread "http-bio-0.0.0.0-5080-exec-8"
> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
>
> Exception in thread "pool-6-thread-2" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen
> space
>
> Cheers,
> Marius
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> get it :) you are right it is offtopic
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm referring to https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> What page are you refering to?
>>>> every OM user can set its own language in the profile ....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look!
>>>>>
>>>>> (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that page bothers
>>>>> me quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch it O_O)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2.1 can be downloaded from here
>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>>> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
>>>>>>
>>>>>> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and recompile
>>>>>> flash to achieve this
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed to get it
>>>>>>> installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply following the 3
>>>>>>> steps on http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html .
>>>>>>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed more in
>>>>>>> line with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the user,
>>>>>>> where they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start chatting. I
>>>>>>> don't need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar, etc. Then for
>>>>>>> me as the server host I have the problem that I can't find out how I'm
>>>>>>> supposed to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have, what is
>>>>>>> customizable? How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an
>>>>>>> intuitive overview.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and that's a step
>>>>>>> in the right direction. However, the latest official release is 2.0. Do you
>>>>>>> have any binaries for 2.1?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and OpenMeetings
>>>>>>> hard: Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you your webcam
>>>>>>> view in the setup.
>>>>>>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and "Choose micro",
>>>>>>> just have it default to the first option in the list the first time you
>>>>>>> start. For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
>>>>>>> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle by a *constant
>>>>>>> live feed*. The black rectangle suggests that the cam is not
>>>>>>> working!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire thing, here
>>>>>>> are a number of directed questions:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing, other than
>>>>>>> what's sprinkled across the unstructured wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
>>>>>>> the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have the video
>>>>>>> feeds embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the height of
>>>>>>> the chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all. Is this
>>>>>>> possible at all without recompiling the source?
>>>>>>> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification requirement when
>>>>>>> making an account?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up, of course,
>>>>>>> but we'll get to them later.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <ja...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes. Very good!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> default.landing.zone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <
>>>>>>>>> jaimebalb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the list and
>>>>>>>>>> rooms may appear like Dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the camera. The
>>>>>>>>>> popular Skype has a setting more complicated than OpenMeetings.
>>>>>>>>>> But I do not collect persistents users' negative reports about this
>>>>>>>>>> routine.
>>>>>>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting some
>>>>>>>>>> issues relevant to the detriment of priority functions. For
>>>>>>>>>> example, in everyday usage logging is unnecessary repetitive and
>>>>>>>>>> also the default presentation in the first half of the dashboard. These
>>>>>>>>>> two points are already solved with the "remember me" and now with
>>>>>>>>>> displaying lists of rooms instead of traditional dashboard.
>>>>>>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great flux
>>>>>>>>>> interface. I suggest a review of it to help eliminate the
>>>>>>>>>> excesses in the OM GUI.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too complex for
>>>>>>>>>>> first time users, or users who only infrequently use the interface.
>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the
>>>>>>>>>>> Administrator’s Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can
>>>>>>>>>>> change the default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs,
>>>>>>>>>>> e.g. to the Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set
>>>>>>>>>>> OpenMeetings to open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has
>>>>>>>>>>> to do is select the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people to the
>>>>>>>>>>> meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when the user
>>>>>>>>>>> clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly into the
>>>>>>>>>>> meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting for
>>>>>>>>>>> which Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have a version
>>>>>>>>>>> 2.1 running at the moment on which I could check.****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had
>>>>>>>>>>> difficulty entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware.
>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues.
>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the
>>>>>>>>>>> administrator. I see that users have difficulty with the current interface
>>>>>>>>>>> (Login and Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they
>>>>>>>>>>> have too many options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
>>>>>>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with them.**
>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>***
>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are you
>>>>>>>>>>> saying its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using flash
>>>>>>>>>>> and the general GUI?****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think that a
>>>>>>>>>>> simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it is
>>>>>>>>>>> 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>>>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings.
>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly why escapes the interface itself.****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>***
>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>>>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless -
>>>>>>>>>>> 12.10.pdf -
>>>>>>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes the
>>>>>>>>>>> latest H264
>>>>>>>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Cottham
>>>>>>>>>>> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>>>>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>>>>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)
>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: +6173 319 2799
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
>>>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
>>>>>>>>>>> Web: www.robertbird.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain
>>>>>>>>>>> legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly
>>>>>>>>>>> stated, confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be waived
>>>>>>>>>>> by the sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any
>>>>>>>>>>> attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to
>>>>>>>>>>> whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please
>>>>>>>>>>> contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages. You
>>>>>>>>>>> may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or any
>>>>>>>>>>> attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual
>>>>>>>>>>> sender except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states
>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses
>>>>>>>>>>> or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the sender or its
>>>>>>>>>>> related entities accepts any liability for any consequential damage
>>>>>>>>>>> resulting from this email containing computer viruses.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Disclaimer added by CodeTwo Exchange Rules
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.codetwo.com****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Stephen Cottham**
>>>>>>>>>>> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>>>>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>>>>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)*****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/>****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/>****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain
>>>>>>>>>>> legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly
>>>>>>>>>>> stated, confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be waived
>>>>>>>>>>> by the sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any
>>>>>>>>>>> attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to
>>>>>>>>>>> whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please
>>>>>>>>>>> contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages. You
>>>>>>>>>>> may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or any
>>>>>>>>>>> attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual
>>>>>>>>>>> sender except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states
>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses
>>>>>>>>>>> or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the sender or its
>>>>>>>>>>> related entities accepts any liability for any consequential damage
>>>>>>>>>>> resulting from this email containing computer viruses. ****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Disclaimer added by *CodeTwo Exchange Rules*****
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>>>>>>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>>>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed),
>>>>>>>>>>> and get
>>>>>>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video
>>>>>>>>>>> rooms.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting
>>>>>>>>>>> started.
>>>>>>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but
>>>>>>>>>>> it****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can
>>>>>>>>>>> someone****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would be
>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Marius <nu...@gmail.com>.
Heh yeah, sorry about that :)
Okay, so the basics are working okay. Email verification is turned off, and
upon login the user is dropped in the public room tab.
Here's the next set of questions:
1. Can I allow users to create public rooms by themselves? Or is the "idea"
of OpenMeetings that they'll use the private rooms for this and then invite
people?
2. Is this a simple out of memory error, or something more serious? How do
I give java more memory? (I'm assuming it's a flag I'll need to set in
red5.bat. Will that Just Work™?)
Exception in thread
"org.springframework.scheduling.quartz.SchedulerFactoryBean#0_QuartzSchedulerThread"
[WARN] [NioProc
essor-3] org.red5.server.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler - Exception caught
PermGen space
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space[INFO] [NioProcessor-3]
org.red5.server.net.rtmp.codec.RTMPProtocolDecoder - Ac
tion userservice.refreshSession
Exception in thread "http-bio-0.0.0.0-5080-exec-8"
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
Exception in thread "pool-6-thread-2" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen
space
Cheers,
Marius
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
> get it :) you are right it is offtopic
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm referring to https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> What page are you refering to?
>>> every OM user can set its own language in the profile ....
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look!
>>>>
>>>> (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that page bothers
>>>> me quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch it O_O)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 2.1 can be downloaded from here
>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>>> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
>>>>>
>>>>> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and recompile
>>>>> flash to achieve this
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed to get it
>>>>>> installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply following the 3
>>>>>> steps on http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html .
>>>>>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed more in
>>>>>> line with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the user,
>>>>>> where they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start chatting. I
>>>>>> don't need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar, etc. Then for
>>>>>> me as the server host I have the problem that I can't find out how I'm
>>>>>> supposed to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have, what is
>>>>>> customizable? How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an
>>>>>> intuitive overview.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and that's a step in
>>>>>> the right direction. However, the latest official release is 2.0. Do you
>>>>>> have any binaries for 2.1?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and OpenMeetings
>>>>>> hard: Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you your webcam
>>>>>> view in the setup.
>>>>>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and "Choose micro",
>>>>>> just have it default to the first option in the list the first time you
>>>>>> start. For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
>>>>>> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle by a *constant
>>>>>> live feed*. The black rectangle suggests that the cam is not working!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire thing, here
>>>>>> are a number of directed questions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing, other than
>>>>>> what's sprinkled across the unstructured wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
>>>>>> the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have the video
>>>>>> feeds embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the height of
>>>>>> the chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all. Is this
>>>>>> possible at all without recompiling the source?
>>>>>> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification requirement when
>>>>>> making an account?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up, of course,
>>>>>> but we'll get to them later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Marius
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <ja...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes. Very good!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> default.landing.zone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <jaimebalb@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the list and
>>>>>>>>> rooms may appear like Dashboard.
>>>>>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the camera. The
>>>>>>>>> popular Skype has a setting more complicated than OpenMeetings.
>>>>>>>>> But I do not collect persistents users' negative reports about this
>>>>>>>>> routine.
>>>>>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting some
>>>>>>>>> issues relevant to the detriment of priority functions. For
>>>>>>>>> example, in everyday usage logging is unnecessary repetitive and
>>>>>>>>> also the default presentation in the first half of the dashboard. These
>>>>>>>>> two points are already solved with the "remember me" and now with
>>>>>>>>> displaying lists of rooms instead of traditional dashboard.
>>>>>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great flux
>>>>>>>>> interface. I suggest a review of it to help eliminate the excesses in
>>>>>>>>> the OM GUI.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too complex for
>>>>>>>>>> first time users, or users who only infrequently use the interface.
>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the Administrator’s
>>>>>>>>>> Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can change the
>>>>>>>>>> default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs, e.g. to the
>>>>>>>>>> Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set OpenMeetings to
>>>>>>>>>> open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has to do is select
>>>>>>>>>> the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people to the
>>>>>>>>>> meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when the user
>>>>>>>>>> clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly into the
>>>>>>>>>> meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting for
>>>>>>>>>> which Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have a version
>>>>>>>>>> 2.1 running at the moment on which I could check.****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had
>>>>>>>>>> difficulty entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware.
>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues.
>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the
>>>>>>>>>> administrator. I see that users have difficulty with the current interface
>>>>>>>>>> (Login and Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they
>>>>>>>>>> have too many options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
>>>>>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with them.***
>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are you
>>>>>>>>>> saying its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using flash
>>>>>>>>>> and the general GUI?****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think that a
>>>>>>>>>> simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it is
>>>>>>>>>> 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings. Exactly
>>>>>>>>>> why escapes the interface itself.****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless -
>>>>>>>>>> 12.10.pdf -
>>>>>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes the
>>>>>>>>>> latest H264
>>>>>>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Cottham
>>>>>>>>>> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>>>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>>>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
>>>>>>>>>> Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)
>>>>>>>>>> Fax: +6173 319 2799
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
>>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
>>>>>>>>>> Web: www.robertbird.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain
>>>>>>>>>> legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly
>>>>>>>>>> stated, confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be waived
>>>>>>>>>> by the sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any
>>>>>>>>>> attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to
>>>>>>>>>> whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please
>>>>>>>>>> contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages. You
>>>>>>>>>> may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or any
>>>>>>>>>> attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual
>>>>>>>>>> sender except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states
>>>>>>>>>> otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses
>>>>>>>>>> or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the sender or its
>>>>>>>>>> related entities accepts any liability for any consequential damage
>>>>>>>>>> resulting from this email containing computer viruses.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Disclaimer added by CodeTwo Exchange Rules
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.codetwo.com****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Stephen Cottham**
>>>>>>>>>> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>>>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>>>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)*****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/>****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/>****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain
>>>>>>>>>> legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly
>>>>>>>>>> stated, confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be waived
>>>>>>>>>> by the sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any
>>>>>>>>>> attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to
>>>>>>>>>> whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please
>>>>>>>>>> contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages. You
>>>>>>>>>> may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or any
>>>>>>>>>> attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual
>>>>>>>>>> sender except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states
>>>>>>>>>> otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses
>>>>>>>>>> or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the sender or its
>>>>>>>>>> related entities accepts any liability for any consequential damage
>>>>>>>>>> resulting from this email containing computer viruses. ****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Disclaimer added by *CodeTwo Exchange Rules*****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> www.codetwo.com****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>>>>>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed),
>>>>>>>>>> and get
>>>>>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video
>>>>>>>>>> rooms.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting
>>>>>>>>>> started.
>>>>>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but
>>>>>>>>>> it****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can
>>>>>>>>>> someone****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would be
>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
get it :) you are right it is offtopic
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm referring to https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> What page are you refering to?
>> every OM user can set its own language in the profile ....
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look!
>>>
>>> (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that page bothers
>>> me quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch it O_O)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> 2.1 can be downloaded from here
>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>>> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
>>>>
>>>> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and recompile flash
>>>> to achieve this
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed to get it
>>>>> installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply following the 3
>>>>> steps on http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html .
>>>>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed more in line
>>>>> with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the user, where
>>>>> they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start chatting. I don't
>>>>> need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar, etc. Then for me as
>>>>> the server host I have the problem that I can't find out how I'm supposed
>>>>> to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have, what is customizable?
>>>>> How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an intuitive overview.
>>>>>
>>>>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and that's a step in
>>>>> the right direction. However, the latest official release is 2.0. Do you
>>>>> have any binaries for 2.1?
>>>>>
>>>>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and OpenMeetings hard:
>>>>> Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you your webcam view in
>>>>> the setup.
>>>>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and "Choose micro",
>>>>> just have it default to the first option in the list the first time you
>>>>> start. For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
>>>>> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle by a *constant
>>>>> live feed*. The black rectangle suggests that the cam is not working!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire thing, here
>>>>> are a number of directed questions:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing, other than
>>>>> what's sprinkled across the unstructured wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
>>>>> the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
>>>>> ?
>>>>> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have the video
>>>>> feeds embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the height of
>>>>> the chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all. Is this
>>>>> possible at all without recompiling the source?
>>>>> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification requirement when making
>>>>> an account?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up, of course, but
>>>>> we'll get to them later.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Marius
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <ja...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. Very good!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> default.landing.zone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <ja...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the list and
>>>>>>>> rooms may appear like Dashboard.
>>>>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the camera. The
>>>>>>>> popular Skype has a setting more complicated than OpenMeetings. But I
>>>>>>>> do not collect persistents users' negative reports about this
>>>>>>>> routine.
>>>>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting some
>>>>>>>> issues relevant to the detriment of priority functions. For example,
>>>>>>>> in everyday usage logging is unnecessary repetitive and also the
>>>>>>>> default presentation in the first half of the dashboard. These two
>>>>>>>> points are already solved with the "remember me" and now with
>>>>>>>> displaying lists of rooms instead of traditional dashboard.
>>>>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great flux
>>>>>>>> interface. I suggest a review of it to help eliminate the excesses in
>>>>>>>> the OM GUI.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too complex for
>>>>>>>>> first time users, or users who only infrequently use the interface.
>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the Administrator’s
>>>>>>>>> Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can change the
>>>>>>>>> default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs, e.g. to the
>>>>>>>>> Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set OpenMeetings to
>>>>>>>>> open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has to do is select
>>>>>>>>> the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people to the
>>>>>>>>> meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when the user
>>>>>>>>> clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly into the
>>>>>>>>> meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting for which
>>>>>>>>> Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have a version 2.1
>>>>>>>>> running at the moment on which I could check.****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had difficulty
>>>>>>>>> entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware. I don’t
>>>>>>>>> know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues.
>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the
>>>>>>>>> administrator. I see that users have difficulty with the current interface
>>>>>>>>> (Login and Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they
>>>>>>>>> have too many options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
>>>>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with them.****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are you saying
>>>>>>>>> its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using flash and
>>>>>>>>> the general GUI?****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think that a
>>>>>>>>> simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it is
>>>>>>>>> 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings. Exactly
>>>>>>>>> why escapes the interface itself.****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless -
>>>>>>>>> 12.10.pdf -
>>>>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes the latest
>>>>>>>>> H264
>>>>>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stephen Cottham
>>>>>>>>> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>>>>>>>>> Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
>>>>>>>>> Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)
>>>>>>>>> Fax: +6173 319 2799
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
>>>>>>>>> Web: www.robertbird.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain
>>>>>>>>> legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly
>>>>>>>>> stated, confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be waived
>>>>>>>>> by the sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any
>>>>>>>>> attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to
>>>>>>>>> whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please
>>>>>>>>> contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages. You
>>>>>>>>> may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or any
>>>>>>>>> attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual
>>>>>>>>> sender except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states
>>>>>>>>> otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses
>>>>>>>>> or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the sender or its
>>>>>>>>> related entities accepts any liability for any consequential damage
>>>>>>>>> resulting from this email containing computer viruses.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Disclaimer added by CodeTwo Exchange Rules
>>>>>>>>> http://www.codetwo.com****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Stephen Cottham**
>>>>>>>>> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)*****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/>****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/>****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain
>>>>>>>>> legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly
>>>>>>>>> stated, confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be waived
>>>>>>>>> by the sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any
>>>>>>>>> attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to
>>>>>>>>> whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please
>>>>>>>>> contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages. You
>>>>>>>>> may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or any
>>>>>>>>> attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual
>>>>>>>>> sender except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states
>>>>>>>>> otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses
>>>>>>>>> or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the sender or its
>>>>>>>>> related entities accepts any liability for any consequential damage
>>>>>>>>> resulting from this email containing computer viruses. ****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Disclaimer added by *CodeTwo Exchange Rules*****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> www.codetwo.com****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>>>>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed),
>>>>>>>>> and get
>>>>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video
>>>>>>>>> rooms.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting
>>>>>>>>> started.
>>>>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it
>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can
>>>>>>>>> someone****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would be
>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Marius <nu...@gmail.com>.
I'm referring to https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
> What page are you refering to?
> every OM user can set its own language in the profile ....
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look!
>>
>> (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that page bothers me
>> quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch it O_O)
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> 2.1 can be downloaded from here
>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>>> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
>>>
>>> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and recompile flash
>>> to achieve this
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed to get it
>>>> installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply following the 3
>>>> steps on http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html .
>>>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed more in line
>>>> with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the user, where
>>>> they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start chatting. I don't
>>>> need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar, etc. Then for me as
>>>> the server host I have the problem that I can't find out how I'm supposed
>>>> to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have, what is customizable?
>>>> How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an intuitive overview.
>>>>
>>>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and that's a step in
>>>> the right direction. However, the latest official release is 2.0. Do you
>>>> have any binaries for 2.1?
>>>>
>>>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and OpenMeetings hard:
>>>> Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you your webcam view in
>>>> the setup.
>>>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and "Choose micro",
>>>> just have it default to the first option in the list the first time you
>>>> start. For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
>>>> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle by a *constant
>>>> live feed*. The black rectangle suggests that the cam is not working!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire thing, here
>>>> are a number of directed questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing, other than
>>>> what's sprinkled across the unstructured wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
>>>> the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
>>>> ?
>>>> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have the video
>>>> feeds embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the height of
>>>> the chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all. Is this
>>>> possible at all without recompiling the source?
>>>> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification requirement when making
>>>> an account?
>>>>
>>>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up, of course, but
>>>> we'll get to them later.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Marius
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <ja...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes. Very good!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> default.landing.zone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <ja...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the list and rooms may
>>>>>>> appear like Dashboard.
>>>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the camera. The
>>>>>>> popular Skype has a setting more complicated than OpenMeetings. But I
>>>>>>> do not collect persistents users' negative reports about this
>>>>>>> routine.
>>>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting some issues
>>>>>>> relevant to the detriment of priority functions. For example, in
>>>>>>> everyday usage logging is unnecessary repetitive and also the
>>>>>>> default presentation in the first half of the dashboard. These two
>>>>>>> points are already solved with the "remember me" and now with
>>>>>>> displaying lists of rooms instead of traditional dashboard.
>>>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great flux
>>>>>>> interface. I suggest a review of it to help eliminate the excesses in
>>>>>>> the OM GUI.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too complex for
>>>>>>>> first time users, or users who only infrequently use the interface.
>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the Administrator’s
>>>>>>>> Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can change the
>>>>>>>> default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs, e.g. to the
>>>>>>>> Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set OpenMeetings to
>>>>>>>> open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has to do is select
>>>>>>>> the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people to the
>>>>>>>> meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when the user
>>>>>>>> clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly into the
>>>>>>>> meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting for which
>>>>>>>> Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have a version 2.1
>>>>>>>> running at the moment on which I could check.****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had difficulty
>>>>>>>> entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware. I don’t
>>>>>>>> know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues.
>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the administrator.
>>>>>>>> I see that users have difficulty with the current interface (Login and
>>>>>>>> Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they have too many
>>>>>>>> options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
>>>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with them.****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are you saying
>>>>>>>> its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using flash and
>>>>>>>> the general GUI?****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think that a
>>>>>>>> simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it is
>>>>>>>> 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings. Exactly
>>>>>>>> why escapes the interface itself.****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless -
>>>>>>>> 12.10.pdf -
>>>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes the latest
>>>>>>>> H264
>>>>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stephen Cottham
>>>>>>>> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>>>>>>>> Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
>>>>>>>> Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)
>>>>>>>> Fax: +6173 319 2799
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
>>>>>>>> Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
>>>>>>>> Web: www.robertbird.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain
>>>>>>>> legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly
>>>>>>>> stated, confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be waived
>>>>>>>> by the sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any
>>>>>>>> attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to
>>>>>>>> whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please
>>>>>>>> contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages. You
>>>>>>>> may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or any
>>>>>>>> attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual
>>>>>>>> sender except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states
>>>>>>>> otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses
>>>>>>>> or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the sender or its
>>>>>>>> related entities accepts any liability for any consequential damage
>>>>>>>> resulting from this email containing computer viruses.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Disclaimer added by CodeTwo Exchange Rules
>>>>>>>> http://www.codetwo.com****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Stephen Cottham**
>>>>>>>> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)*****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/>****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/>****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain
>>>>>>>> legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly
>>>>>>>> stated, confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be waived
>>>>>>>> by the sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any
>>>>>>>> attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to
>>>>>>>> whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please
>>>>>>>> contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages. You
>>>>>>>> may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or any
>>>>>>>> attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual
>>>>>>>> sender except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states
>>>>>>>> otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses
>>>>>>>> or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the sender or its
>>>>>>>> related entities accepts any liability for any consequential damage
>>>>>>>> resulting from this email containing computer viruses. ****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Disclaimer added by *CodeTwo Exchange Rules*****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> www.codetwo.com****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>>>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video
>>>>>>>> rooms.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting
>>>>>>>> started.
>>>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it
>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can someone
>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would be
>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
What page are you refering to?
every OM user can set its own language in the profile ....
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look!
>
> (Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that page bothers me
> quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch it O_O)
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> 2.1 can be downloaded from here
>> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
>> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
>>
>> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and recompile flash
>> to achieve this
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed to get it
>>> installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply following the 3
>>> steps on http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html .
>>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed more in line
>>> with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the user, where
>>> they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start chatting. I don't
>>> need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar, etc. Then for me as
>>> the server host I have the problem that I can't find out how I'm supposed
>>> to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have, what is customizable?
>>> How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an intuitive overview.
>>>
>>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and that's a step in
>>> the right direction. However, the latest official release is 2.0. Do you
>>> have any binaries for 2.1?
>>>
>>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and OpenMeetings hard:
>>> Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you your webcam view in
>>> the setup.
>>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and "Choose micro", just
>>> have it default to the first option in the list the first time you start.
>>> For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
>>> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle by a *constant
>>> live feed*. The black rectangle suggests that the cam is not working!
>>>
>>>
>>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire thing, here are
>>> a number of directed questions:
>>>
>>> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing, other than
>>> what's sprinkled across the unstructured wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
>>> the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
>>> ?
>>> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have the video feeds
>>> embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the height of the
>>> chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all. Is this
>>> possible at all without recompiling the source?
>>> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification requirement when making
>>> an account?
>>>
>>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up, of course, but
>>> we'll get to them later.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Marius
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <ja...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes. Very good!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>>
>>>>> default.landing.zone
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <ja...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> George,
>>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the list and rooms may
>>>>>> appear like Dashboard.
>>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the camera. The
>>>>>> popular Skype has a setting more complicated than OpenMeetings. But I
>>>>>> do not collect persistents users' negative reports about this routine
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting some issues
>>>>>> relevant to the detriment of priority functions. For example, in
>>>>>> everyday usage logging is unnecessary repetitive and also the
>>>>>> default presentation in the first half of the dashboard. These two
>>>>>> points are already solved with the "remember me" and now with
>>>>>> displaying lists of rooms instead of traditional dashboard.
>>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great flux
>>>>>> interface. I suggest a review of it to help eliminate the excesses in
>>>>>> the OM GUI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too complex for first
>>>>>>> time users, or users who only infrequently use the interface.****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the Administrator’s
>>>>>>> Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can change the
>>>>>>> default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs, e.g. to the
>>>>>>> Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set OpenMeetings to
>>>>>>> open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has to do is select
>>>>>>> the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people to the
>>>>>>> meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when the user
>>>>>>> clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly into the
>>>>>>> meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting for which
>>>>>>> Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have a version 2.1
>>>>>>> running at the moment on which I could check.****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had difficulty
>>>>>>> entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware. I don’t
>>>>>>> know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues.
>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the administrator.
>>>>>>> I see that users have difficulty with the current interface (Login and
>>>>>>> Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they have too many
>>>>>>> options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
>>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with them.****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are you saying
>>>>>>> its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using flash and
>>>>>>> the general GUI?****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think that a
>>>>>>> simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it is
>>>>>>> 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings. Exactly
>>>>>>> why escapes the interface itself.****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless - 12.10.pdf
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes the latest
>>>>>>> H264
>>>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stephen Cottham
>>>>>>> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>>>>>>> Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
>>>>>>> Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)
>>>>>>> Fax: +6173 319 2799
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
>>>>>>> Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
>>>>>>> Web: www.robertbird.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain
>>>>>>> legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly
>>>>>>> stated, confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be waived
>>>>>>> by the sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any
>>>>>>> attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to
>>>>>>> whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please
>>>>>>> contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages. You
>>>>>>> may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or any
>>>>>>> attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual
>>>>>>> sender except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states
>>>>>>> otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses
>>>>>>> or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the sender or its
>>>>>>> related entities accepts any liability for any consequential damage
>>>>>>> resulting from this email containing computer viruses.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Disclaimer added by CodeTwo Exchange Rules
>>>>>>> http://www.codetwo.com****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Stephen Cottham**
>>>>>>> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)*****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/>****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/>****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain
>>>>>>> legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly
>>>>>>> stated, confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be waived
>>>>>>> by the sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any
>>>>>>> attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to
>>>>>>> whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please
>>>>>>> contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages. You
>>>>>>> may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or any
>>>>>>> attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual
>>>>>>> sender except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states
>>>>>>> otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses
>>>>>>> or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the sender or its
>>>>>>> related entities accepts any liability for any consequential damage
>>>>>>> resulting from this email containing computer viruses. ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Disclaimer added by *CodeTwo Exchange Rules*****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.codetwo.com****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video rooms.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting
>>>>>>> started.
>>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it*
>>>>>>> ***
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can someone
>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would be very
>>>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WBR
>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Marius <nu...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll have a look!
(Unrelated note: The defaulting to local language on that page bothers me
quite a lot… especially since I can't find a way to switch it O_O)
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 2.1 can be downloaded from here
> https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
> I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
>
> other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and recompile flash
> to achieve this
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed to get it
>> installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply following the 3
>> steps on http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html .
>> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed more in line
>> with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the user, where
>> they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start chatting. I don't
>> need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar, etc. Then for me as
>> the server host I have the problem that I can't find out how I'm supposed
>> to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have, what is customizable?
>> How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an intuitive overview.
>>
>> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and that's a step in the
>> right direction. However, the latest official release is 2.0. Do you have
>> any binaries for 2.1?
>>
>> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and OpenMeetings hard:
>> Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you your webcam view in
>> the setup.
>> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and "Choose micro", just
>> have it default to the first option in the list the first time you start.
>> For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
>> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle by a *constant
>> live feed*. The black rectangle suggests that the cam is not working!
>>
>>
>> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire thing, here are
>> a number of directed questions:
>>
>> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing, other than what's
>> sprinkled across the unstructured wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
>> the configuration tab on the homepage<http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
>> ?
>> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have the video feeds
>> embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the height of the
>> chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all. Is this
>> possible at all without recompiling the source?
>> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification requirement when making an
>> account?
>>
>> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up, of course, but
>> we'll get to them later.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Marius
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <ja...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Yes. Very good!
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>>
>>>> default.landing.zone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <ja...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> George,
>>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the list and rooms may
>>>>> appear like Dashboard.
>>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the camera. The
>>>>> popular Skype has a setting more complicated than OpenMeetings. But I
>>>>> do not collect persistents users' negative reports about this routine.
>>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting some issues
>>>>> relevant to the detriment of priority functions. For example, in
>>>>> everyday usage logging is unnecessary repetitive and also the default
>>>>> presentation in the first half of the dashboard. These two points are
>>>>> already solved with the "remember me" and now with displaying lists of
>>>>> rooms instead of traditional dashboard.
>>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great flux
>>>>> interface. I suggest a review of it to help eliminate the excesses in
>>>>> the OM GUI.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too complex for first
>>>>>> time users, or users who only infrequently use the interface.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the Administrator’s
>>>>>> Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can change the
>>>>>> default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs, e.g. to the
>>>>>> Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set OpenMeetings to
>>>>>> open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has to do is select
>>>>>> the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people to the
>>>>>> meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when the user
>>>>>> clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly into the
>>>>>> meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting for which
>>>>>> Tab is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have a version 2.1
>>>>>> running at the moment on which I could check.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had difficulty
>>>>>> entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware. I don’t
>>>>>> know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues.*
>>>>>> ***
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the administrator. I
>>>>>> see that users have difficulty with the current interface (Login and
>>>>>> Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they have too many
>>>>>> options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
>>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with them.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are you saying
>>>>>> its too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using flash and
>>>>>> the general GUI?****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think that a
>>>>>> simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it is
>>>>>> 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings. Exactly why
>>>>>> escapes the interface itself.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>>
>>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless - 12.10.pdf -
>>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes the latest
>>>>>> H264
>>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stephen Cottham
>>>>>> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>>>>>> Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
>>>>>> Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)
>>>>>> Fax: +6173 319 2799
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
>>>>>> Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
>>>>>> Web: www.robertbird.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain
>>>>>> legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly
>>>>>> stated, confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be waived
>>>>>> by the sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any
>>>>>> attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to
>>>>>> whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please
>>>>>> contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages. You
>>>>>> may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or any
>>>>>> attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual
>>>>>> sender except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states
>>>>>> otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses
>>>>>> or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the sender or its
>>>>>> related entities accepts any liability for any consequential damage
>>>>>> resulting from this email containing computer viruses.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Disclaimer added by CodeTwo Exchange Rules
>>>>>> http://www.codetwo.com****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Stephen Cottham**
>>>>>> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)*****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/>****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/>****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain
>>>>>> legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly
>>>>>> stated, confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be waived
>>>>>> by the sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any
>>>>>> attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to
>>>>>> whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please
>>>>>> contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages. You
>>>>>> may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or any
>>>>>> attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual
>>>>>> sender except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states
>>>>>> otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses
>>>>>> or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the sender or its
>>>>>> related entities accepts any liability for any consequential damage
>>>>>> resulting from this email containing computer viruses. ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Disclaimer added by *CodeTwo Exchange Rules*****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.codetwo.com****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video rooms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting started.
>>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it**
>>>>>> **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can someone*
>>>>>> ***
>>>>>>
>>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would be very
>>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
2.1 can be downloaded from here https://builds.apache.org/job/openmeetings/
I'll try to take a look at "black rectangle" problem
other questions: you need to change Openlaszlo code and recompile flash
to achieve this
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed to get it
> installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply following the 3
> steps on http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html .
> As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed more in line
> with what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the user, where
> they login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start chatting. I don't
> need the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar, etc. Then for me as
> the server host I have the problem that I can't find out how I'm supposed
> to change stuff to my liking. What options do I have, what is customizable?
> How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an intuitive overview.
>
> I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and that's a step in the
> right direction. However, the latest official release is 2.0. Do you have
> any binaries for 2.1?
>
> About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and OpenMeetings hard:
> Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you your webcam view in
> the setup.
> This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and "Choose micro", just
> have it default to the first option in the list the first time you start.
> For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
> But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle by a *constant
> live feed*. The black rectangle suggests that the cam is not working!
>
>
> So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire thing, here are a
> number of directed questions:
>
> 1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing, other than what's
> sprinkled across the unstructured wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index> and
> the configuration tab on the homepage <http://openmeetings.apache.org/>
> ?
> 2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have the video feeds
> embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the height of the
> chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all. Is this
> possible at all without recompiling the source?
> 3. Can I get rid of the email verification requirement when making an
> account?
>
> I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up, of course, but
> we'll get to them later.
>
> Cheers,
> Marius
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <ja...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Yes. Very good!
>>
>>
>> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>>
>>> default.landing.zone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <ja...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> George,
>>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the list and rooms may
>>>> appear like Dashboard.
>>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the camera. The
>>>> popular Skype has a setting more complicated than OpenMeetings. But I
>>>> do not collect persistents users' negative reports about this routine.
>>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting some issues
>>>> relevant to the detriment of priority functions. For example, in
>>>> everyday usage logging is unnecessary repetitive and also the default
>>>> presentation in the first half of the dashboard. These two points are
>>>> already solved with the "remember me" and now with displaying lists of
>>>> rooms instead of traditional dashboard.
>>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great flux
>>>> interface. I suggest a review of it to help eliminate the excesses in
>>>> the OM GUI.
>>>>
>>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>>
>>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too complex for first
>>>>> time users, or users who only infrequently use the interface.****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the Administrator’s
>>>>> Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can change the
>>>>> default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs, e.g. to the
>>>>> Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set OpenMeetings to
>>>>> open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has to do is select
>>>>> the correct room to enter.****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people to the
>>>>> meeting via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when the user
>>>>> clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly into the
>>>>> meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting for which Tab
>>>>> is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have a version 2.1 running
>>>>> at the moment on which I could check.****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had difficulty
>>>>> entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware. I don’t
>>>>> know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues.**
>>>>> **
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>>
>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> Stephen,
>>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the administrator. I
>>>>> see that users have difficulty with the current interface (Login and
>>>>> Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they have too many
>>>>> options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
>>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with them.****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are you saying its
>>>>> too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using flash and the
>>>>> general GUI?****
>>>>>
>>>>> ****
>>>>>
>>>>> ****
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>>
>>>>> ****
>>>>>
>>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think that a
>>>>> simpler GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it is
>>>>> 100% Flash hinders more than it helps.
>>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings. Exactly why
>>>>> escapes the interface itself.****
>>>>>
>>>>> ****
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>>
>>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything?
>>>>>
>>>>> If so go here:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>>
>>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless - 12.10.pdf -
>>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes the latest H264
>>>>> compile steps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Stephen Cottham
>>>>> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>>>>> Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
>>>>> Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)
>>>>> Fax: +6173 319 2799
>>>>>
>>>>> Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
>>>>> Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
>>>>> Web: www.robertbird.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain
>>>>> legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly
>>>>> stated, confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be waived
>>>>> by the sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any
>>>>> attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to
>>>>> whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please
>>>>> contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages. You
>>>>> may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or any
>>>>> attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual
>>>>> sender except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states
>>>>> otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses
>>>>> or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the sender or its
>>>>> related entities accepts any liability for any consequential damage
>>>>> resulting from this email containing computer viruses.
>>>>>
>>>>> Disclaimer added by CodeTwo Exchange Rules
>>>>> http://www.codetwo.com****
>>>>>
>>>>> *Stephen Cottham**
>>>>> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia****
>>>>>
>>>>> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*****
>>>>>
>>>>> *Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)*****
>>>>>
>>>>> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*****
>>>>>
>>>>> ****
>>>>>
>>>>> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*****
>>>>>
>>>>> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*****
>>>>>
>>>>> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/>****
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/>****
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain
>>>>> legally privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly
>>>>> stated, confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be waived
>>>>> by the sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any
>>>>> attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to
>>>>> whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please
>>>>> contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages. You
>>>>> may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or any
>>>>> attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual
>>>>> sender except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states
>>>>> otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses
>>>>> or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the sender or its
>>>>> related entities accepts any liability for any consequential damage
>>>>> resulting from this email containing computer viruses. ****
>>>>>
>>>>> ****
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Disclaimer added by *CodeTwo Exchange Rules*****
>>>>>
>>>>> www.codetwo.com****
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and get
>>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video rooms.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting started.
>>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it***
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can someone**
>>>>> **
>>>>>
>>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would be very
>>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Marius****
>>>>>
>>>>> ****
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>
>>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Marius <nu...@gmail.com>.
Stephen: Sorry for being a bit vague. I actually managed to get it
installed (as a test on my windows PC) quite well by simply following the 3
steps on http://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html .
As for what the problem is then: my intentions are indeed more in line with
what Jaime described. I would like a simple GUI for the user, where they
login, get a list of rooms, and are able to start chatting. I don't need
the private rooms, the whiteboard, the calendar, etc. Then for me as the
server host I have the problem that I can't find out how I'm supposed to
change stuff to my liking. What options do I have, what is customizable?
How do I do that? I can't find documentation with an intuitive overview.
I indeed eventually found default.landing.zone, and that's a step in the
right direction. However, the latest official release is 2.0. Do you have
any binaries for 2.1?
About the camera: Here's what makes skype easy, and OpenMeetings hard:
Skype automatically grabs the defaults, and shows you your webcam view in
the setup.
This should be an easy fix: For "Choose webcam" and "Choose micro", just
have it default to the first option in the list the first time you start.
For cam resolution I'd suggest defaulting to 320x240.
But the most important part: Replace the black rectangle by a *constant
live feed*. The black rectangle suggests that the cam is not working!
So, now that I have a slightly better idea of the entire thing, here are a
number of directed questions:
1. Do you have a central documentation I'm missing, other than what's
sprinkled across the unstructured
wiki<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index>
and
the configuration tab on the homepage <http://openmeetings.apache.org/>?
2. Can I change the layout? Preferably, I would have the video feeds
embedded, not floating. I would also like to increase the height of the
chat area. I don't need the whiteboard space and such at all. Is this
possible at all without recompiling the source?
3. Can I get rid of the email verification requirement when making an
account?
I'll have more questions after I get the basics set up, of course, but
we'll get to them later.
Cheers,
Marius
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Jaime Balbino <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes. Very good!
>
>
> 2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>
>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>>
>> default.landing.zone
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <ja...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> George,
>>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the list and rooms may
>>> appear like Dashboard.
>>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the camera. The
>>> popular Skype has a setting more complicated than OpenMeetings. But I
>>> do not collect persistents users' negative reports about this routine.
>>> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting some issues
>>> relevant to the detriment of priority functions. For example, in
>>> everyday usage logging is unnecessary repetitive and also the default
>>> presentation in the first half of the dashboard. These two points are
>>> already solved with the "remember me" and now with displaying lists of
>>> rooms instead of traditional dashboard.
>>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great flux interface
>>> . I suggest a review of it to help eliminate the excesses in the OM GUI.
>>>
>>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>>
>>>> Jaime,****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too complex for first
>>>> time users, or users who only infrequently use the interface.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the Administrator’s
>>>> Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can change the
>>>> default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs, e.g. to the
>>>> Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set OpenMeetings to
>>>> open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has to do is select
>>>> the correct room to enter.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people to the meeting
>>>> via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when the user clicks
>>>> the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly into the
>>>> meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting for which Tab
>>>> is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have a version 2.1 running
>>>> at the moment on which I could check.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had difficulty
>>>> entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware. I don’t
>>>> know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues.***
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> George Kirkham****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Stephen,
>>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the administrator. I
>>>> see that users have difficulty with the current interface (Login and
>>>> Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they have too many
>>>> options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
>>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with them.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>
>>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are you saying its
>>>> too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using flash and the
>>>> general GUI?****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think that a simpler
>>>> GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it is 100% Flash
>>>> hinders more than it helps.
>>>> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings. Exactly why
>>>> escapes the interface itself.****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>>
>>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything?
>>>>
>>>> If so go here:
>>>>
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>>
>>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless - 12.10.pdf -
>>>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes the latest H264
>>>> compile steps.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Stephen Cottham
>>>> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>
>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>>>> Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
>>>> Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)
>>>> Fax: +6173 319 2799
>>>>
>>>> Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
>>>> Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
>>>> Web: www.robertbird.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain legally
>>>> privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly stated,
>>>> confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be waived by the
>>>> sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any
>>>> attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to
>>>> whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please
>>>> contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages. You
>>>> may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or any
>>>> attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual
>>>> sender except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states
>>>> otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses
>>>> or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the sender or its
>>>> related entities accepts any liability for any consequential damage
>>>> resulting from this email containing computer viruses.
>>>>
>>>> Disclaimer added by CodeTwo Exchange Rules
>>>> http://www.codetwo.com****
>>>>
>>>> *Stephen Cottham**
>>>> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>>
>>>> Robert Bird Group
>>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia****
>>>>
>>>> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*****
>>>>
>>>> *Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)*****
>>>>
>>>> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*****
>>>>
>>>> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*****
>>>>
>>>> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/>****
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/>****
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain legally
>>>> privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly stated,
>>>> confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be waived by the
>>>> sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any
>>>> attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to
>>>> whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please
>>>> contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages. You
>>>> may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or any
>>>> attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual
>>>> sender except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states
>>>> otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses
>>>> or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the sender or its
>>>> related entities accepts any liability for any consequential damage
>>>> resulting from this email containing computer viruses. ****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Disclaimer added by *CodeTwo Exchange Rules*****
>>>>
>>>> www.codetwo.com****
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and get
>>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video rooms.
>>>>
>>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting started.
>>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it****
>>>>
>>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can someone***
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would be very
>>>> much appreciated :)
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Marius****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
>
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Jaime Balbino <ja...@gmail.com>.
Yes. Very good!
2013/3/13 Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
>
> default.landing.zone
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <ja...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> George,
>> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the list and rooms may
>> appear like Dashboard.
>> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the camera. The popular
>> Skype has a setting more complicated than OpenMeetings. But I do not
>> collect persistents users' negative reports about this routine.
>> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting some issues
>> relevant to the detriment of priority functions. For example, in
>> everyday usage logging is unnecessary repetitive and also the default
>> presentation in the first half of the dashboard. These two points are
>> already solved with the "remember me" and now with displaying lists of
>> rooms instead of traditional dashboard.
>> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great flux interface. I
>> suggest a review of it to help eliminate the excesses in the OM GUI.
>>
>> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>>
>>
>> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>>
>>> Jaime,****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too complex for first
>>> time users, or users who only infrequently use the interface.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the Administrator’s
>>> Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can change the
>>> default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs, e.g. to the
>>> Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set OpenMeetings to
>>> open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has to do is select
>>> the correct room to enter.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people to the meeting
>>> via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when the user clicks
>>> the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly into the
>>> meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting for which Tab
>>> is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have a version 2.1 running
>>> at the moment on which I could check.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had difficulty
>>> entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware. I don’t
>>> know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Thanks,****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> George Kirkham****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Stephen,
>>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the administrator. I
>>> see that users have difficulty with the current interface (Login and
>>> Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they have too many
>>> options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
>>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with them.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>
>>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are you saying its
>>> too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using flash and the
>>> general GUI?****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think that a simpler
>>> GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it is 100% Flash
>>> hinders more than it helps.
>>> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings. Exactly why
>>> escapes the interface itself.****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>****
>>>
>>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything?
>>>
>>> If so go here:
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>>
>>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless - 12.10.pdf -
>>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes the latest H264
>>> compile steps.
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stephen Cottham
>>> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>
>>> Robert Bird Group
>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>>> Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
>>> Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)
>>> Fax: +6173 319 2799
>>>
>>> Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
>>> Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
>>> Web: www.robertbird.com
>>>
>>>
>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain legally
>>> privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly stated,
>>> confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be waived by the
>>> sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any
>>> attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to
>>> whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please
>>> contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages. You
>>> may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or any
>>> attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual
>>> sender except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states
>>> otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses
>>> or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the sender or its
>>> related entities accepts any liability for any consequential damage
>>> resulting from this email containing computer viruses.
>>>
>>> Disclaimer added by CodeTwo Exchange Rules
>>> http://www.codetwo.com****
>>>
>>> *Stephen Cottham**
>>> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>>
>>> Robert Bird Group
>>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia****
>>>
>>> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*****
>>>
>>> *Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)*****
>>>
>>> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*****
>>>
>>> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*****
>>>
>>> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/>****
>>>
>>> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/>****
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain legally
>>> privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly stated,
>>> confidentiality and/or legal privilege is not intended to be waived by the
>>> sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any
>>> attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to
>>> whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please
>>> contact us immediately by return email and then delete both messages. You
>>> may not otherwise read, forward, copy, use or disclose this email or any
>>> attachments. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual
>>> sender except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states
>>> otherwise. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses
>>> or defects before opening or sending them on. None of the sender or its
>>> related entities accepts any liability for any consequential damage
>>> resulting from this email containing computer viruses. ****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>>
>>> Disclaimer added by *CodeTwo Exchange Rules*****
>>>
>>> www.codetwo.com****
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I would like a system that works like this:
>>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and get
>>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video rooms.
>>>
>>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting started.
>>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it****
>>>
>>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can someone****
>>>
>>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would be very
>>> much appreciated :)
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Marius****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
http://openmeetings.apache.org/GeneralConfiguration.html
default.landing.zone
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jaime Balbino <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> George,
> I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the list and rooms may
> appear like Dashboard.
> I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the camera. The popular
> Skype has a setting more complicated than OpenMeetings. But I do not
> collect persistents users' negative reports about this routine.
> I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting some issues
> relevant to the detriment of priority functions. For example, in everyday
> usage logging is unnecessary repetitive and also the default presentation in
> the first half of the dashboard. These two points are already solved with
> the "remember me" and now with displaying lists of rooms instead of
> traditional dashboard.
> As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great flux interface. I
> suggest a review of it to help eliminate the excesses in the OM GUI.
>
> http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
>
>
> 2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
>
>> Jaime,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too complex for first time
>> users, or users who only infrequently use the interface.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the Administrator’s
>> Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can change the
>> default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs, e.g. to the
>> Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set OpenMeetings to
>> open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has to do is select
>> the correct room to enter.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people to the meeting
>> via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when the user clicks
>> the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly into the
>> meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting for which Tab is
>> the default when a user logs in, as I do not have a version 2.1 running at
>> the moment on which I could check.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I will also add that I have had many users who have had difficulty
>> entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware. I don’t
>> know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thanks,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> George Kirkham****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>>
>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Stephen,
>> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the administrator. I see
>> that users have difficulty with the current interface (Login and
>> Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they have too many
>> options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
>> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with them.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>****
>>
>> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are you saying its
>> too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using flash and the
>> general GUI?****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
>> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think that a simpler
>> GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it is 100% Flash
>> hinders more than it helps.
>> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings. Exactly why
>> escapes the interface itself.****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>****
>>
>> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything?
>>
>> If so go here:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
>> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>>
>> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless - 12.10.pdf -
>> this is an install from beginning to end which includes the latest H264
>> compile steps.
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Stephen Cottham
>> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>
>> Robert Bird Group
>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
>> Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
>> Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)
>> Fax: +6173 319 2799
>>
>> Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
>> Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
>> Web: www.robertbird.com
>>
>>
>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain legally
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>> *Stephen Cottham**
>> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>>
>> Robert Bird Group
>> Level 5, 333 Ann St
>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia****
>>
>> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*****
>>
>> *Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)*****
>>
>> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*****
>>
>> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*****
>>
>> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/>****
>>
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>>
>>
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
>> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I would like a system that works like this:
>> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and get
>> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video rooms.
>>
>> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting started.
>> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it****
>>
>> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can someone****
>>
>> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would be very
>> much appreciated :)
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Marius****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Jaime Balbino <ja...@gmail.com>.
George,
I'm testing version 2.1 and did not know that now the list and rooms may
appear like Dashboard.
I also do not know how easy it could be to adjust the camera. The popular
Skype has a setting more complicated than OpenMeetings. But I do not
collectpersistents
users' negative reports about this routine.
I think the interface has OM flux problems, highlighting some issues
relevant to the detriment of priority functions. For example, in everyday
usage logging is unnecessary repetitive and also the default presentation in
the first half of the dashboard. These two points are already solved with
the "remember me" and now with displaying lists of rooms instead of
traditional dashboard.
As I said in another e-mail, I think the LAMS has a great flux interface. I
suggest a review of it to help eliminate the excesses in the OM GUI.
http://demo.lamscommunity.org/lams/
2013/3/13 George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>
> Jaime,****
>
> ** **
>
> I understand what you mean about the GUI being too complex for first time
> users, or users who only infrequently use the interface.****
>
> ** **
>
> Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the Administrator’s
> Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can change the
> default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs, e.g. to the
> Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set OpenMeetings to
> open into the “Public rooms” Tab and then all the user has to do is select
> the correct room to enter.****
>
> ** **
>
> Alternatively you may also want to try “Inviting” people to the meeting
> via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when the user clicks
> the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly into the
> meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).****
>
> ** **
>
> I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting for which Tab is
> the default when a user logs in, as I do not have a version 2.1 running at
> the moment on which I could check.****
>
> ** **
>
> I will also add that I have had many users who have had difficulty
> entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware. I don’t
> know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues.****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> George Kirkham****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
>
> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>
> ** **
>
> Stephen,
> I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the administrator. I see
> that users have difficulty with the current interface (Login and
> Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they have too many
> options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
> Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with them.****
>
> ** **
>
> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>****
>
> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are you saying its too
> hard to build and test or you have an issue with using flash and the
> general GUI?****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>
> ****
>
> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think that a simpler
> GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it is 100% Flash
> hinders more than it helps.
> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings. Exactly why
> escapes the interface itself.****
>
> ****
>
> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>****
>
> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything?
>
> If so go here:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>
> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless - 12.10.pdf -
> this is an install from beginning to end which includes the latest H264
> compile steps.
>
> Best Regards
>
>
>
> Stephen Cottham
> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>
> Robert Bird Group
> Level 5, 333 Ann St
> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
> Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
> Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)
> Fax: +6173 319 2799
>
> Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
> Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
> Web: www.robertbird.com
>
>
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>
> *Stephen Cottham**
> *Group IT Manager (Associate)
>
> Robert Bird Group
> Level 5, 333 Ann St
> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia****
>
> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*****
>
> *Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)*****
>
> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*****
>
> ****
>
> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)*****
>
> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)*****
>
> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/>****
>
> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/>****
>
>
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like a system that works like this:
> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and get
> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video rooms.
>
> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting started.
> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it****
>
> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can someone****
>
> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would be very
> much appreciated :)
>
> Best regards,
> Marius****
>
> ****
>
> ** **
>
RE: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Jaime,
I understand what you mean about the GUI being too complex for first
time users, or users who only infrequently use the interface.
Version 2.1 has a feature that you can set in the Administrator's
Configuration (Manage system settings) section, which can change the
default Tab from Dashboard to one of the meeting rooms tabs, e.g. to the
Public Meeting rooms tab. This was created so we could set OpenMeetings
to open into the "Public rooms" Tab and then all the user has to do is
select the correct room to enter.
Alternatively you may also want to try "Inviting" people to the meeting
via the calendar or from within a meeting room, then when the user
clicks the link in the emailed invitation, they go almost directly into
the meeting room (no need to select which meeting room).
I apologise, I cannot tell you the administrator setting for which Tab
is the default when a user logs in, as I do not have a version 2.1
running at the moment on which I could check.
I will also add that I have had many users who have had difficulty
entering a room and selecting their Camera/Microphone hardware. I don't
know how much easier we could make this, but they still have issues.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
From: Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 14 March 2013 9:25 AM
To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
Subject: Re: Easy login video chatroom
Stephen,
I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the administrator. I
see that users have difficulty with the current interface (Login and
Dashboard). It is not really complicated, but they think they have too
many options when they want to just entering a room and talk.
Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with them.
2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>
Sorry I couldn't make sense of your response Jaime, are you saying its
too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using flash and the
general GUI?
From: Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
Sent: 13 March 2013 22:01
To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
Subject: Re: Easy login video chatroom
I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think that a simpler
GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it is 100%
Flash hinders more than it helps.
Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings. Exactly why
escapes the interface itself.
2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>
Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything?
If so go here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless - 12.10.pdf -
this is an install from beginning to end which includes the latest H264
compile steps.
Best Regards
Stephen Cottham
Group IT Manager (Associate)
Robert Bird Group
Level 5, 333 Ann St
Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
Phone: +6173 319 2777 <tel:%2B6173%20319%202777> (AUS)
Phone: +44207 633 2880 <tel:%2B44207%20633%202880> (UK)
Fax: +6173 319 2799 <tel:%2B6173%20319%202799>
Mobile: +61400 756 963 <tel:%2B61400%20756%20963> (AUS)
Mobile: +447900 918 616 <tel:%2B447900%20918%20616> (UK)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
Subject: Easy login video chatroom
Hello,
I would like a system that works like this:
You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and get
a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video rooms.
That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting started.
Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it
doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can someone
point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would be very
much appreciated :)
Best regards,
Marius
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Jaime Balbino <ja...@gmail.com>.
Stephen,
I'm putting the user's vision, not the vision of the administrator. I see that
users have difficulty with the current interface (Login and Dashboard). It is
not really complicated, but they think they have too many options when they
want to just entering a room and talk.
Plugins and mail invitations is much better to work with them.
2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>
> Sorry I couldn’t make sense of your response Jaime, are you saying its too
> hard to build and test or you have an issue with using flash and the
> general GUI?****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 13 March 2013 22:01
> *To:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: Easy login video chatroom****
>
> ** **
>
> I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think that a simpler
> GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it is 100% Flash
> hinders more than it helps.
> Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings. Exactly why
> escapes the interface itself.****
>
> ** **
>
> 2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>****
>
> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything?
>
> If so go here:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>
> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless - 12.10.pdf -
> this is an install from beginning to end which includes the latest H264
> compile steps.
>
> Best Regards
>
>
>
> Stephen Cottham
> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>
> Robert Bird Group
> Level 5, 333 Ann St
> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
> Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
> Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)
> Fax: +6173 319 2799
>
> Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
> Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
> Web: www.robertbird.com
>
>
> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain legally
> privileged information or copyright material. Unless expressly stated,
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> sending of this email. The contents of this email, including any
> attachments, are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to
> whom they are addressed. If you are not an intended recipient, please
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>
> Robert Bird Group
> Level 5, 333 Ann St
> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia****
>
> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)*
>
> *Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)*****
>
> *Fax: +6173 319 2799*
>
> ******
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like a system that works like this:
> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and get
> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video rooms.
>
> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting started.
> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it****
>
> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can someone****
>
> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would be very
> much appreciated :)
>
> Best regards,
> Marius****
>
> ** **
>
RE: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>.
Sorry I couldn't make sense of your response Jaime, are you saying its
too hard to build and test or you have an issue with using flash and the
general GUI?
From: Jaime Balbino [mailto:jaimebalb@gmail.com]
Sent: 13 March 2013 22:01
To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
Subject: Re: Easy login video chatroom
I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think that a simpler
GUI is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it is 100%
Flash hinders more than it helps.
Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings. Exactly why
escapes the interface itself.
2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>
Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything?
If so go here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless - 12.10.pdf -
this is an install from beginning to end which includes the latest H264
compile steps.
Best Regards
Stephen Cottham
Group IT Manager (Associate)
Robert Bird Group
Level 5, 333 Ann St
Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
Phone: +6173 319 2777 <tel:%2B6173%20319%202777> (AUS)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
Subject: Easy login video chatroom
Hello,
I would like a system that works like this:
You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and get
a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video rooms.
That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting started.
Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it
doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can someone
point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would be very
much appreciated :)
Best regards,
Marius
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Jaime Balbino <ja...@gmail.com>.
I think Marius refers to the ordinary user. I also think that a simpler GUI
is today, it is very difficult to the common user. As it is 100% Flash
hinders more than it helps.
Integration with other software helps a lot OpenMeetings. Exactly why escapes
the interface itself.
2013/3/13 Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>
> Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything?
>
> If so go here:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
> nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
>
> follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless - 12.10.pdf -
> this is an install from beginning to end which includes the latest H264
> compile steps.
>
> Best Regards
>
>
>
> Stephen Cottham
> Group IT Manager (Associate)
>
> Robert Bird Group
> Level 5, 333 Ann St
> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
> Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
> Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)
> Fax: +6173 319 2799
>
> Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
> Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
> Web: www.robertbird.com
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
> Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
> To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
> Subject: Easy login video chatroom
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like a system that works like this:
> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and get
> a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video rooms.
>
> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting started.
> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it
> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can someone
> point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would be very
> much appreciated :)
>
> Best regards,
> Marius
>
>
RE: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Stephen Cottham <St...@robertbird.com.au>.
Im assuming you want to build from scratch OS and everything?
If so go here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Tutorials+for+i
nstalling+OpenMeetings+and+Tools
follow the guide Installing OM2.x On Ubuntu64 - Headless - 12.10.pdf -
this is an install from beginning to end which includes the latest H264
compile steps.
Best Regards
Stephen Cottham
Group IT Manager (Associate)
Robert Bird Group
Level 5, 333 Ann St
Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia
Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)
Phone: +44207 633 2880 (UK)
Fax: +6173 319 2799
Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)
Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Marius [mailto:nuntius.marii@gmail.com]
Sent: 13 March 2013 20:49
To: user@openmeetings.apache.org
Subject: Easy login video chatroom
Hello,
I would like a system that works like this:
You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and get
a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video rooms.
That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting started.
Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it
doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off... Can someone
point me in the right direction/help me get started? It would be very
much appreciated :)
Best regards,
Marius
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
For what?
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Alexei Fedotov
<al...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Could you put it to jira?
> 21.03.2013 9:23 пользователь "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
> написал:
>
>> I see no need for this it is really one line of code :)
>> I can create project on github if you insist :)
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Maxim,
>>> Have you committed the page with these three methods for others to use
>>> as an example?
>>> 21.03.2013 8:02 пользователь "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>>> написал:
>>>
>>>> @Alexei there is no need in "special plug-in"
>>>> in case you need integration with you current site/CMS you should call
>>>> 3 REST methods (using JS/PHP) ant there is no need to "invent the wheel" :)
>>>>
>>>> I guess we can implement sort of "fully public" room in 3.0 available
>>>> as http://server/om/html/#room/666, I'm still not sure about this
>>>> since each room requires bandwidth and computing power. Anybody can DOS you
>>>> or start the recording until your HDD gets full .....
>>>>
>>>> I prefer to know "who did this and when"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
>>>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and
>>>>> get a list of public rooms.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me add here that Maxim has developed an excellent plugin. You can
>>>>> check it using the following:
>>>>> http://demo.dataved.ru/public/?firstname=Marius&lastname=vanVoorden
>>>>>
>>>>> And you can embed it anywhere using the following:
>>>>> <iframe src="
>>>>> http://demo.dataved.ru/public/?firstname=Marius&lastname=vanVoorden"
>>>>> width="800" height="600">
>>>>> </iframe>
>>>>>
>>>>> @Maxim, have you already pointed out where this plug-in is?
>>>>>
>>>>> I really liked the idea to have this functionality as a part of
>>>>> Openmeetings, yet our discussions fired many concerns.
>>>>> --
>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Hello,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I would like a system that works like this:
>>>>> > You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and
>>>>> > get a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video
>>>>> > rooms.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting
>>>>> started.
>>>>> > Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it
>>>>> > doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off…
>>>>> > Can someone point me in the right direction/help me get started? It
>>>>> > would be very much appreciated :)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Best regards,
>>>>> > Marius
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
Could you put it to jira?
21.03.2013 9:23 пользователь "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
написал:
> I see no need for this it is really one line of code :)
> I can create project on github if you insist :)
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Maxim,
>> Have you committed the page with these three methods for others to use as
>> an example?
>> 21.03.2013 8:02 пользователь "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>> написал:
>>
>>> @Alexei there is no need in "special plug-in"
>>> in case you need integration with you current site/CMS you should call 3
>>> REST methods (using JS/PHP) ant there is no need to "invent the wheel" :)
>>>
>>> I guess we can implement sort of "fully public" room in 3.0 available as
>>> http://server/om/html/#room/666, I'm still not sure about this since
>>> each room requires bandwidth and computing power. Anybody can DOS you or
>>> start the recording until your HDD gets full .....
>>>
>>> I prefer to know "who did this and when"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
>>> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and
>>>> get a list of public rooms.
>>>>
>>>> Let me add here that Maxim has developed an excellent plugin. You can
>>>> check it using the following:
>>>> http://demo.dataved.ru/public/?firstname=Marius&lastname=vanVoorden
>>>>
>>>> And you can embed it anywhere using the following:
>>>> <iframe src="
>>>> http://demo.dataved.ru/public/?firstname=Marius&lastname=vanVoorden"
>>>> width="800" height="600">
>>>> </iframe>
>>>>
>>>> @Maxim, have you already pointed out where this plug-in is?
>>>>
>>>> I really liked the idea to have this functionality as a part of
>>>> Openmeetings, yet our discussions fired many concerns.
>>>> --
>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Hello,
>>>> >
>>>> > I would like a system that works like this:
>>>> > You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and
>>>> > get a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video
>>>> > rooms.
>>>> >
>>>> > That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting started.
>>>> > Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it
>>>> > doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off…
>>>> > Can someone point me in the right direction/help me get started? It
>>>> > would be very much appreciated :)
>>>> >
>>>> > Best regards,
>>>> > Marius
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
I see no need for this it is really one line of code :)
I can create project on github if you insist :)
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Alexei Fedotov
<al...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Maxim,
> Have you committed the page with these three methods for others to use as
> an example?
> 21.03.2013 8:02 пользователь "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
> написал:
>
>> @Alexei there is no need in "special plug-in"
>> in case you need integration with you current site/CMS you should call 3
>> REST methods (using JS/PHP) ant there is no need to "invent the wheel" :)
>>
>> I guess we can implement sort of "fully public" room in 3.0 available as
>> http://server/om/html/#room/666, I'm still not sure about this since
>> each room requires bandwidth and computing power. Anybody can DOS you or
>> start the recording until your HDD gets full .....
>>
>> I prefer to know "who did this and when"
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> > You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and
>>> get a list of public rooms.
>>>
>>> Let me add here that Maxim has developed an excellent plugin. You can
>>> check it using the following:
>>> http://demo.dataved.ru/public/?firstname=Marius&lastname=vanVoorden
>>>
>>> And you can embed it anywhere using the following:
>>> <iframe src="
>>> http://demo.dataved.ru/public/?firstname=Marius&lastname=vanVoorden"
>>> width="800" height="600">
>>> </iframe>
>>>
>>> @Maxim, have you already pointed out where this plug-in is?
>>>
>>> I really liked the idea to have this functionality as a part of
>>> Openmeetings, yet our discussions fired many concerns.
>>> --
>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hello,
>>> >
>>> > I would like a system that works like this:
>>> > You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and
>>> > get a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video
>>> > rooms.
>>> >
>>> > That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting started.
>>> > Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it
>>> > doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off…
>>> > Can someone point me in the right direction/help me get started? It
>>> > would be very much appreciated :)
>>> >
>>> > Best regards,
>>> > Marius
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
Maxim,
Have you committed the page with these three methods for others to use as
an example?
21.03.2013 8:02 пользователь "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
написал:
> @Alexei there is no need in "special plug-in"
> in case you need integration with you current site/CMS you should call 3
> REST methods (using JS/PHP) ant there is no need to "invent the wheel" :)
>
> I guess we can implement sort of "fully public" room in 3.0 available as
> http://server/om/html/#room/666, I'm still not sure about this since each
> room requires bandwidth and computing power. Anybody can DOS you or start
> the recording until your HDD gets full .....
>
> I prefer to know "who did this and when"
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> > You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and get
>> a list of public rooms.
>>
>> Let me add here that Maxim has developed an excellent plugin. You can
>> check it using the following:
>> http://demo.dataved.ru/public/?firstname=Marius&lastname=vanVoorden
>>
>> And you can embed it anywhere using the following:
>> <iframe src="
>> http://demo.dataved.ru/public/?firstname=Marius&lastname=vanVoorden"
>> width="800" height="600">
>> </iframe>
>>
>> @Maxim, have you already pointed out where this plug-in is?
>>
>> I really liked the idea to have this functionality as a part of
>> Openmeetings, yet our discussions fired many concerns.
>> --
>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> http://dataved.ru/
>> +7 916 562 8095
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I would like a system that works like this:
>> > You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and
>> > get a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video
>> > rooms.
>> >
>> > That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting started.
>> > Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it
>> > doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off…
>> > Can someone point me in the right direction/help me get started? It
>> > would be very much appreciated :)
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Marius
>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
@Alexei there is no need in "special plug-in"
in case you need integration with you current site/CMS you should call 3
REST methods (using JS/PHP) ant there is no need to "invent the wheel" :)
I guess we can implement sort of "fully public" room in 3.0 available as
http://server/om/html/#room/666, I'm still not sure about this since each
room requires bandwidth and computing power. Anybody can DOS you or start
the recording until your HDD gets full .....
I prefer to know "who did this and when"
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and get
> a list of public rooms.
>
> Let me add here that Maxim has developed an excellent plugin. You can
> check it using the following:
> http://demo.dataved.ru/public/?firstname=Marius&lastname=vanVoorden
>
> And you can embed it anywhere using the following:
> <iframe src="
> http://demo.dataved.ru/public/?firstname=Marius&lastname=vanVoorden"
> width="800" height="600">
> </iframe>
>
> @Maxim, have you already pointed out where this plug-in is?
>
> I really liked the idea to have this functionality as a part of
> Openmeetings, yet our discussions fired many concerns.
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I would like a system that works like this:
> > You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and
> > get a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video
> > rooms.
> >
> > That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting started.
> > Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it
> > doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off…
> > Can someone point me in the right direction/help me get started? It
> > would be very much appreciated :)
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Marius
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: Easy login video chatroom
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and get a list of public rooms.
Let me add here that Maxim has developed an excellent plugin. You can
check it using the following:
http://demo.dataved.ru/public/?firstname=Marius&lastname=vanVoorden
And you can embed it anywhere using the following:
<iframe src="http://demo.dataved.ru/public/?firstname=Marius&lastname=vanVoorden"
width="800" height="600">
</iframe>
@Maxim, have you already pointed out where this plug-in is?
I really liked the idea to have this functionality as a part of
Openmeetings, yet our discussions fired many concerns.
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Marius <nu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I would like a system that works like this:
> You go to the site, choose a username (no registration needed), and
> get a list of public rooms. The rooms are very simple chat + video
> rooms.
>
> That's the basics. I'm having quite some trouble even getting started.
> Is there actually documentation somewhere? I found the wiki, but it
> doesn't seem to have a structure I can make sense off…
> Can someone point me in the right direction/help me get started? It
> would be very much appreciated :)
>
> Best regards,
> Marius