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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com> on 2002/11/28 05:46:02 UTC

[STATUS] (incubator) Wed Nov 27 23:46:01 EST 2002

APACHE INCUBATOR PROJECT STATUS:                          -*-indented-text-*-
Last modified at [$Date: 2002/10/27 15:23:52 $]

Background:
    o See the bottom of this file for the official resolution/
      charter-as-it-stands
    o IRC channel #apache-incubator on irc.openprojects.net
      traffic is logged to <URL:http://Source-Zone.Org/apache-irc/>
      so that the content of interactive discussions is available
      to everyone
    o Mailing lists:
      - general@incubator.apache.org (send to
         general-subscribe@incubator.apache.org)
    o This status file is mailed to general@incubator.apache.org
      every Wednesday

Project committers (as of 2002-10-27):
    o incubator:
      abannert,coar,fielding,fitz,gstein,jim,nicolaken,striker
    o incubator-site:
      abannert,coar,fielding,fitz,gstein,jim,nicolaken,striker

Release:
    none yet; still ramping up

Resolved Issues:
    none yet; still ramping up

Pending issues:
    o Coming up with a set of bylaws for the project
    o the Website. Use Forrest?

Possible topics for educational documents
    o A document which describes the 'ideal' way a project has to
      go to be successfully integrated into the ASF: the flow of the
      normal incubation process should be pictured
    o Glossary of important ASF terms and phrases
      (this was considered as very helpful on the reorg@ list)
    o Compact, but also encyclopedic link-directory which points
      to important info on the other ASF sites (e.g. to the Jakarta
      Charter or to the HTTPd dev pages)
    o General License-/Licensing documentation (ASL1.1, ASL2.2,
      TCK, JSPA)

The complete text of the resolution that was passed which created this
project is:

       WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
       interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
       Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
       Committee charged with accepting new products into the
       Foundation, providing guidance and support to help each new
       product engender their own collaborative community, educating
       new developers in the philosophy and guidelines for
       collaborative development as defined by the members of the
       Foundation, and proposing to the board the promotion of such
       products to independent PMC status once their community has
       reached maturity.

       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
       Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Incubator PMC", be
       and hereby is established pursuant to the Bylaws of the
       Foundation; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the Apache Incubator PMC be and hereby is
       responsible for the acceptance and oversight of new products
       submitted or proposed to become part of the Foundation; and be
       it further

       RESOLVED, that the Apache Incubator PMC is responsible for
       providing guidance and ensuring that subprojects under its
       purview develop products according to the Foundation's
       philosophy and guidelines for collaborative development; and be
       it further

       RESOLVED, that the Apache Incubator PMC is responsible for
       regularly evaluating products under its purview and making the
       determination in each case of whether the product should be
       abandoned, continue to receive guidance and support, or
       proposed to the board for promotion to full project status as
       part of an existing or new Foundation PMC; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Incubator"
       be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
       serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
       of the Apache Incubator PMC, and to have primary responsibility
       for management of the subprojects within the scope and
       responsibility of the Apache Incubator PMC; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
       hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
       Apache Incubator PMC:

              Aaron Bannert
              Nicola Ken Barozzi
              Ken Coar
              Roy T. Fielding
              B. W. Fitzpatrick
              Jim Jagielski
              Greg Stein
              Sander Striker

       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Jim Jagielski be
       and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
       Incubator, to serve in accordance with and subject to the
       direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
       Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
       disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
       further

       RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Incubator PMC be and hereby
       is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
       encourage open development and increased participation in the
       Apache Incubator Project.

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Re: [STATUS] (incubator) Wed Nov 27 23:46:01 EST 2002

Posted by Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com>.
Ben Hyde wrote:
> 
> >> You don't want to support the candy-bowl platform?
> >
> > never heard that phrase.
> 
> That's the platform upon which make_new_developer is handed out
> like candy.

oh.  no, i do not care to support a candy-bowl make_new_committer()
(as opposed to make_new_developer()) scenario.

Re: [STATUS] (incubator) Wed Nov 27 23:46:01 EST 2002

Posted by Ben Hyde <bh...@pobox.com>.
>> You don't want to support the candy-bowl platform?
>
> never heard that phrase.

That's the platform upon which make_new_developer is handed out
like candy.


Re: [STATUS] (incubator) Wed Nov 27 23:46:01 EST 2002

Posted by Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com>.
Ben Hyde wrote:
> 
> You don't want to support the candy-bowl platform?

never heard that phrase.



Re: [STATUS] (incubator) Wed Nov 27 23:46:01 EST 2002

Posted by Ben Hyde <bh...@pobox.com>.
It sounded a little paternal.  shug.

On Monday, December 2, 2002, at 11:38 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> Ben Hyde wrote:
>>
>> "Educating new developers" licenses the incubator to inject it's self
>> into body of the routine make_new_committer()
>
> this is a problem?  meseems we have had ample demonstration lately
> that many of the various instantiations of make_new_committer() are
> either flawed or stubbed.

You don't want to support the candy-bowl platform?


Re: [STATUS] (incubator) Wed Nov 27 23:46:01 EST 2002

Posted by Rodent of Unusual Size <Ke...@Golux.Com>.
Ben Hyde wrote:
> 
> "Educating new developers" licenses the incubator to inject it's self
> into body of the routine make_new_committer()

this is a problem?  meseems we have had ample demonstration lately
that many of the various instantiations of make_new_committer() are
either flawed or stubbed.

Re: [STATUS] (incubator) Wed Nov 27 23:46:01 EST 2002

Posted by Ben Hyde <bh...@pobox.com>.
On Wednesday, November 27, 2002, at 11:46 PM, Rodent of Unusual Size 
wrote:

> APACHE INCUBATOR PROJECT STATUS:                          
> -*-indented-text-....The complete text of the resolution that was 
> passed which created this
> project ...
>
>        ... educating
>        new developers in the philosophy and guidelines for
>        collaborative development as defined by the members of the
>        Foundation ...

I'd not noticed that clause.  Oh my.  I wish that said: "accumulate
resources to aid in understanding the philosophy and guidelines
for collaborative development as practiced by members of
the Foundation".

"Educating new developers" licenses the incubator to inject it's self
into body of the routine make_new_committer(); instead of what I felt
was the intent of this project, i.e. to inject something into the body
of make_new_project().

  - ben