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Posted to dev@kafka.apache.org by Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> on 2016/03/03 23:36:47 UTC
[VOTE] Deprecating the old Scala producers for 0.10.0.0
Hi all,
The new Java producer was introduced in 0.8.2.0 (released in February
2015). It has become the default implementation for various tools since
0.9.0.0 (released in October 2015) and it is the only implementation with
support for the security features introduced in 0.9.0.0.
Given this, I think we should deprecate the old Scala producers for
0.10.0.0 by adding @deprecated annotations in the code and updating the the
documentation to encourage usage of the new Java producer. This would give
our users a stronger signal regarding our plans to focus on the new Java
producer going forward.
Note that this proposal is only about deprecating the old Scala producers as,
in my opinion, it is too early to do the same for the old Scala consumers. The
new Java consumer was only introduced in 0.9.0.0 and it's still marked as
beta. It would be good to have a full release cycle where the new consumer
is no longer in beta before we deprecate the old consumers. We are hoping
to remove the beta label for the consumer for 0.10.0.0, but that's a
separate discussion.
With regards to removal of the deprecated producers, the current thinking
is to remove all Scala clients at the same time, so it will take at least
two non bug-fix release cycles (it could take longer depending on users'
feedback).
The feedback was mostly positive in the discuss thread although some points
were raised about deprecating the old producers before deprecating the old
consumers:
http://search-hadoop.com/m/uyzND1KVJJmcbgAf2&subj=+DISCUSS+Deprecating+the+old+Scala+producers+for+the+next+release
The JIRA for tracking this is KAFKA-2982.
The vote will run for 72 hours.
Thanks,
Ismael
Re: [VOTE] Deprecating the old Scala producers for 0.10.0.0
Posted by Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk>.
Thanks everyone for voting. +1 from me too.
The vote passed with 6 binding +1s (Neha, Joe, Gwen, Guozhang, Joel, Ewen)
and 4 non-binding +1s (Becket, Ashish, Grant and me).
The discussion will now move to KAFKA-2982.
Ismael
On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Ewen Cheslack-Postava <ew...@confluent.io>
wrote:
> +1
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Joel Koshy <jj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > The new Java producer was introduced in 0.8.2.0 (released in February
> > > 2015). It has become the default implementation for various tools since
> > > 0.9.0.0 (released in October 2015) and it is the only implementation
> with
> > > support for the security features introduced in 0.9.0.0.
> > >
> > > Given this, I think we should deprecate the old Scala producers for
> > > 0.10.0.0 by adding @deprecated annotations in the code and updating the
> > the
> > > documentation to encourage usage of the new Java producer. This would
> > give
> > > our users a stronger signal regarding our plans to focus on the new
> Java
> > > producer going forward.
> > >
> > > Note that this proposal is only about deprecating the old Scala
> producers
> > > as,
> > > in my opinion, it is too early to do the same for the old Scala
> > consumers.
> > > The
> > > new Java consumer was only introduced in 0.9.0.0 and it's still marked
> as
> > > beta. It would be good to have a full release cycle where the new
> > consumer
> > > is no longer in beta before we deprecate the old consumers. We are
> hoping
> > > to remove the beta label for the consumer for 0.10.0.0, but that's a
> > > separate discussion.
> > >
> > > With regards to removal of the deprecated producers, the current
> thinking
> > > is to remove all Scala clients at the same time, so it will take at
> least
> > > two non bug-fix release cycles (it could take longer depending on
> users'
> > > feedback).
> > >
> > > The feedback was mostly positive in the discuss thread although some
> > points
> > > were raised about deprecating the old producers before deprecating the
> > old
> > > consumers:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://search-hadoop.com/m/uyzND1KVJJmcbgAf2&subj=+DISCUSS+Deprecating+the+old+Scala+producers+for+the+next+release
> > >
> > > The JIRA for tracking this is KAFKA-2982.
> > >
> > > The vote will run for 72 hours.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ismael
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Ewen
>
Re: [VOTE] Deprecating the old Scala producers for 0.10.0.0
Posted by Ewen Cheslack-Postava <ew...@confluent.io>.
+1
On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Joel Koshy <jj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The new Java producer was introduced in 0.8.2.0 (released in February
> > 2015). It has become the default implementation for various tools since
> > 0.9.0.0 (released in October 2015) and it is the only implementation with
> > support for the security features introduced in 0.9.0.0.
> >
> > Given this, I think we should deprecate the old Scala producers for
> > 0.10.0.0 by adding @deprecated annotations in the code and updating the
> the
> > documentation to encourage usage of the new Java producer. This would
> give
> > our users a stronger signal regarding our plans to focus on the new Java
> > producer going forward.
> >
> > Note that this proposal is only about deprecating the old Scala producers
> > as,
> > in my opinion, it is too early to do the same for the old Scala
> consumers.
> > The
> > new Java consumer was only introduced in 0.9.0.0 and it's still marked as
> > beta. It would be good to have a full release cycle where the new
> consumer
> > is no longer in beta before we deprecate the old consumers. We are hoping
> > to remove the beta label for the consumer for 0.10.0.0, but that's a
> > separate discussion.
> >
> > With regards to removal of the deprecated producers, the current thinking
> > is to remove all Scala clients at the same time, so it will take at least
> > two non bug-fix release cycles (it could take longer depending on users'
> > feedback).
> >
> > The feedback was mostly positive in the discuss thread although some
> points
> > were raised about deprecating the old producers before deprecating the
> old
> > consumers:
> >
> >
> >
> http://search-hadoop.com/m/uyzND1KVJJmcbgAf2&subj=+DISCUSS+Deprecating+the+old+Scala+producers+for+the+next+release
> >
> > The JIRA for tracking this is KAFKA-2982.
> >
> > The vote will run for 72 hours.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ismael
> >
>
--
Thanks,
Ewen
Re: [VOTE] Deprecating the old Scala producers for 0.10.0.0
Posted by Joel Koshy <jj...@gmail.com>.
+1
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The new Java producer was introduced in 0.8.2.0 (released in February
> 2015). It has become the default implementation for various tools since
> 0.9.0.0 (released in October 2015) and it is the only implementation with
> support for the security features introduced in 0.9.0.0.
>
> Given this, I think we should deprecate the old Scala producers for
> 0.10.0.0 by adding @deprecated annotations in the code and updating the the
> documentation to encourage usage of the new Java producer. This would give
> our users a stronger signal regarding our plans to focus on the new Java
> producer going forward.
>
> Note that this proposal is only about deprecating the old Scala producers
> as,
> in my opinion, it is too early to do the same for the old Scala consumers.
> The
> new Java consumer was only introduced in 0.9.0.0 and it's still marked as
> beta. It would be good to have a full release cycle where the new consumer
> is no longer in beta before we deprecate the old consumers. We are hoping
> to remove the beta label for the consumer for 0.10.0.0, but that's a
> separate discussion.
>
> With regards to removal of the deprecated producers, the current thinking
> is to remove all Scala clients at the same time, so it will take at least
> two non bug-fix release cycles (it could take longer depending on users'
> feedback).
>
> The feedback was mostly positive in the discuss thread although some points
> were raised about deprecating the old producers before deprecating the old
> consumers:
>
>
> http://search-hadoop.com/m/uyzND1KVJJmcbgAf2&subj=+DISCUSS+Deprecating+the+old+Scala+producers+for+the+next+release
>
> The JIRA for tracking this is KAFKA-2982.
>
> The vote will run for 72 hours.
>
> Thanks,
> Ismael
>
Re: [VOTE] Deprecating the old Scala producers for 0.10.0.0
Posted by Joe Stein <jo...@stealth.ly>.
+1
~ Joestein
On Mar 3, 2016 3:01 PM, "Neha Narkhede" <ne...@confluent.io> wrote:
> +1
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The new Java producer was introduced in 0.8.2.0 (released in February
> > 2015). It has become the default implementation for various tools since
> > 0.9.0.0 (released in October 2015) and it is the only implementation with
> > support for the security features introduced in 0.9.0.0.
> >
> > Given this, I think we should deprecate the old Scala producers for
> > 0.10.0.0 by adding @deprecated annotations in the code and updating the
> the
> > documentation to encourage usage of the new Java producer. This would
> give
> > our users a stronger signal regarding our plans to focus on the new Java
> > producer going forward.
> >
> > Note that this proposal is only about deprecating the old Scala producers
> > as,
> > in my opinion, it is too early to do the same for the old Scala
> consumers.
> > The
> > new Java consumer was only introduced in 0.9.0.0 and it's still marked as
> > beta. It would be good to have a full release cycle where the new
> consumer
> > is no longer in beta before we deprecate the old consumers. We are hoping
> > to remove the beta label for the consumer for 0.10.0.0, but that's a
> > separate discussion.
> >
> > With regards to removal of the deprecated producers, the current thinking
> > is to remove all Scala clients at the same time, so it will take at least
> > two non bug-fix release cycles (it could take longer depending on users'
> > feedback).
> >
> > The feedback was mostly positive in the discuss thread although some
> points
> > were raised about deprecating the old producers before deprecating the
> old
> > consumers:
> >
> >
> >
> http://search-hadoop.com/m/uyzND1KVJJmcbgAf2&subj=+DISCUSS+Deprecating+the+old+Scala+producers+for+the+next+release
> >
> > The JIRA for tracking this is KAFKA-2982.
> >
> > The vote will run for 72 hours.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ismael
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Neha
>
Re: [VOTE] Deprecating the old Scala producers for 0.10.0.0
Posted by Neha Narkhede <ne...@confluent.io>.
+1
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The new Java producer was introduced in 0.8.2.0 (released in February
> 2015). It has become the default implementation for various tools since
> 0.9.0.0 (released in October 2015) and it is the only implementation with
> support for the security features introduced in 0.9.0.0.
>
> Given this, I think we should deprecate the old Scala producers for
> 0.10.0.0 by adding @deprecated annotations in the code and updating the the
> documentation to encourage usage of the new Java producer. This would give
> our users a stronger signal regarding our plans to focus on the new Java
> producer going forward.
>
> Note that this proposal is only about deprecating the old Scala producers
> as,
> in my opinion, it is too early to do the same for the old Scala consumers.
> The
> new Java consumer was only introduced in 0.9.0.0 and it's still marked as
> beta. It would be good to have a full release cycle where the new consumer
> is no longer in beta before we deprecate the old consumers. We are hoping
> to remove the beta label for the consumer for 0.10.0.0, but that's a
> separate discussion.
>
> With regards to removal of the deprecated producers, the current thinking
> is to remove all Scala clients at the same time, so it will take at least
> two non bug-fix release cycles (it could take longer depending on users'
> feedback).
>
> The feedback was mostly positive in the discuss thread although some points
> were raised about deprecating the old producers before deprecating the old
> consumers:
>
>
> http://search-hadoop.com/m/uyzND1KVJJmcbgAf2&subj=+DISCUSS+Deprecating+the+old+Scala+producers+for+the+next+release
>
> The JIRA for tracking this is KAFKA-2982.
>
> The vote will run for 72 hours.
>
> Thanks,
> Ismael
>
--
Thanks,
Neha
Re: [VOTE] Deprecating the old Scala producers for 0.10.0.0
Posted by Guozhang Wang <wa...@gmail.com>.
+1.
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 9:26 PM, Grant Henke <gh...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> +1 (non-binding)
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Ashish Singh <as...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
> > +1 (non-binding)
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Becket Qin <be...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > +1 (non-binding)
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Gwen Shapira <gw...@confluent.io>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk>
> wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > The new Java producer was introduced in 0.8.2.0 (released in
> February
> > > > > 2015). It has become the default implementation for various tools
> > since
> > > > > 0.9.0.0 (released in October 2015) and it is the only
> implementation
> > > with
> > > > > support for the security features introduced in 0.9.0.0.
> > > > >
> > > > > Given this, I think we should deprecate the old Scala producers for
> > > > > 0.10.0.0 by adding @deprecated annotations in the code and updating
> > the
> > > > the
> > > > > documentation to encourage usage of the new Java producer. This
> would
> > > > give
> > > > > our users a stronger signal regarding our plans to focus on the new
> > > Java
> > > > > producer going forward.
> > > > >
> > > > > Note that this proposal is only about deprecating the old Scala
> > > > producers as,
> > > > > in my opinion, it is too early to do the same for the old Scala
> > > > consumers. The
> > > > > new Java consumer was only introduced in 0.9.0.0 and it's still
> > marked
> > > as
> > > > > beta. It would be good to have a full release cycle where the new
> > > > consumer
> > > > > is no longer in beta before we deprecate the old consumers. We are
> > > hoping
> > > > > to remove the beta label for the consumer for 0.10.0.0, but that's
> a
> > > > > separate discussion.
> > > > >
> > > > > With regards to removal of the deprecated producers, the current
> > > thinking
> > > > > is to remove all Scala clients at the same time, so it will take at
> > > least
> > > > > two non bug-fix release cycles (it could take longer depending on
> > > users'
> > > > > feedback).
> > > > >
> > > > > The feedback was mostly positive in the discuss thread although
> some
> > > > points
> > > > > were raised about deprecating the old producers before deprecating
> > the
> > > > old
> > > > > consumers:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://search-hadoop.com/m/uyzND1KVJJmcbgAf2&subj=+DISCUSS+Deprecating+the+old+Scala+producers+for+the+next+release
> > > > >
> > > > > The JIRA for tracking this is KAFKA-2982.
> > > > >
> > > > > The vote will run for 72 hours.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Ismael
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ashish
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Grant Henke
> Software Engineer | Cloudera
> grant@cloudera.com | twitter.com/gchenke | linkedin.com/in/granthenke
>
--
-- Guozhang
Re: [VOTE] Deprecating the old Scala producers for 0.10.0.0
Posted by Grant Henke <gh...@cloudera.com>.
+1 (non-binding)
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Ashish Singh <as...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> +1 (non-binding)
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Becket Qin <be...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > +1 (non-binding)
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Gwen Shapira <gw...@confluent.io> wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > The new Java producer was introduced in 0.8.2.0 (released in February
> > > > 2015). It has become the default implementation for various tools
> since
> > > > 0.9.0.0 (released in October 2015) and it is the only implementation
> > with
> > > > support for the security features introduced in 0.9.0.0.
> > > >
> > > > Given this, I think we should deprecate the old Scala producers for
> > > > 0.10.0.0 by adding @deprecated annotations in the code and updating
> the
> > > the
> > > > documentation to encourage usage of the new Java producer. This would
> > > give
> > > > our users a stronger signal regarding our plans to focus on the new
> > Java
> > > > producer going forward.
> > > >
> > > > Note that this proposal is only about deprecating the old Scala
> > > producers as,
> > > > in my opinion, it is too early to do the same for the old Scala
> > > consumers. The
> > > > new Java consumer was only introduced in 0.9.0.0 and it's still
> marked
> > as
> > > > beta. It would be good to have a full release cycle where the new
> > > consumer
> > > > is no longer in beta before we deprecate the old consumers. We are
> > hoping
> > > > to remove the beta label for the consumer for 0.10.0.0, but that's a
> > > > separate discussion.
> > > >
> > > > With regards to removal of the deprecated producers, the current
> > thinking
> > > > is to remove all Scala clients at the same time, so it will take at
> > least
> > > > two non bug-fix release cycles (it could take longer depending on
> > users'
> > > > feedback).
> > > >
> > > > The feedback was mostly positive in the discuss thread although some
> > > points
> > > > were raised about deprecating the old producers before deprecating
> the
> > > old
> > > > consumers:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://search-hadoop.com/m/uyzND1KVJJmcbgAf2&subj=+DISCUSS+Deprecating+the+old+Scala+producers+for+the+next+release
> > > >
> > > > The JIRA for tracking this is KAFKA-2982.
> > > >
> > > > The vote will run for 72 hours.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ismael
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Ashish
>
--
Grant Henke
Software Engineer | Cloudera
grant@cloudera.com | twitter.com/gchenke | linkedin.com/in/granthenke
Re: [VOTE] Deprecating the old Scala producers for 0.10.0.0
Posted by Ashish Singh <as...@cloudera.com>.
+1 (non-binding)
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Becket Qin <be...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 (non-binding)
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Gwen Shapira <gw...@confluent.io> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > The new Java producer was introduced in 0.8.2.0 (released in February
> > > 2015). It has become the default implementation for various tools since
> > > 0.9.0.0 (released in October 2015) and it is the only implementation
> with
> > > support for the security features introduced in 0.9.0.0.
> > >
> > > Given this, I think we should deprecate the old Scala producers for
> > > 0.10.0.0 by adding @deprecated annotations in the code and updating the
> > the
> > > documentation to encourage usage of the new Java producer. This would
> > give
> > > our users a stronger signal regarding our plans to focus on the new
> Java
> > > producer going forward.
> > >
> > > Note that this proposal is only about deprecating the old Scala
> > producers as,
> > > in my opinion, it is too early to do the same for the old Scala
> > consumers. The
> > > new Java consumer was only introduced in 0.9.0.0 and it's still marked
> as
> > > beta. It would be good to have a full release cycle where the new
> > consumer
> > > is no longer in beta before we deprecate the old consumers. We are
> hoping
> > > to remove the beta label for the consumer for 0.10.0.0, but that's a
> > > separate discussion.
> > >
> > > With regards to removal of the deprecated producers, the current
> thinking
> > > is to remove all Scala clients at the same time, so it will take at
> least
> > > two non bug-fix release cycles (it could take longer depending on
> users'
> > > feedback).
> > >
> > > The feedback was mostly positive in the discuss thread although some
> > points
> > > were raised about deprecating the old producers before deprecating the
> > old
> > > consumers:
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://search-hadoop.com/m/uyzND1KVJJmcbgAf2&subj=+DISCUSS+Deprecating+the+old+Scala+producers+for+the+next+release
> > >
> > > The JIRA for tracking this is KAFKA-2982.
> > >
> > > The vote will run for 72 hours.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ismael
> >
>
--
Regards,
Ashish
Re: [VOTE] Deprecating the old Scala producers for 0.10.0.0
Posted by Becket Qin <be...@gmail.com>.
+1 (non-binding)
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Gwen Shapira <gw...@confluent.io> wrote:
> +1
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The new Java producer was introduced in 0.8.2.0 (released in February
> > 2015). It has become the default implementation for various tools since
> > 0.9.0.0 (released in October 2015) and it is the only implementation with
> > support for the security features introduced in 0.9.0.0.
> >
> > Given this, I think we should deprecate the old Scala producers for
> > 0.10.0.0 by adding @deprecated annotations in the code and updating the
> the
> > documentation to encourage usage of the new Java producer. This would
> give
> > our users a stronger signal regarding our plans to focus on the new Java
> > producer going forward.
> >
> > Note that this proposal is only about deprecating the old Scala
> producers as,
> > in my opinion, it is too early to do the same for the old Scala
> consumers. The
> > new Java consumer was only introduced in 0.9.0.0 and it's still marked as
> > beta. It would be good to have a full release cycle where the new
> consumer
> > is no longer in beta before we deprecate the old consumers. We are hoping
> > to remove the beta label for the consumer for 0.10.0.0, but that's a
> > separate discussion.
> >
> > With regards to removal of the deprecated producers, the current thinking
> > is to remove all Scala clients at the same time, so it will take at least
> > two non bug-fix release cycles (it could take longer depending on users'
> > feedback).
> >
> > The feedback was mostly positive in the discuss thread although some
> points
> > were raised about deprecating the old producers before deprecating the
> old
> > consumers:
> >
> >
> http://search-hadoop.com/m/uyzND1KVJJmcbgAf2&subj=+DISCUSS+Deprecating+the+old+Scala+producers+for+the+next+release
> >
> > The JIRA for tracking this is KAFKA-2982.
> >
> > The vote will run for 72 hours.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ismael
>
Re: [VOTE] Deprecating the old Scala producers for 0.10.0.0
Posted by Gwen Shapira <gw...@confluent.io>.
+1
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Ismael Juma <is...@juma.me.uk> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The new Java producer was introduced in 0.8.2.0 (released in February
> 2015). It has become the default implementation for various tools since
> 0.9.0.0 (released in October 2015) and it is the only implementation with
> support for the security features introduced in 0.9.0.0.
>
> Given this, I think we should deprecate the old Scala producers for
> 0.10.0.0 by adding @deprecated annotations in the code and updating the the
> documentation to encourage usage of the new Java producer. This would give
> our users a stronger signal regarding our plans to focus on the new Java
> producer going forward.
>
> Note that this proposal is only about deprecating the old Scala producers as,
> in my opinion, it is too early to do the same for the old Scala consumers. The
> new Java consumer was only introduced in 0.9.0.0 and it's still marked as
> beta. It would be good to have a full release cycle where the new consumer
> is no longer in beta before we deprecate the old consumers. We are hoping
> to remove the beta label for the consumer for 0.10.0.0, but that's a
> separate discussion.
>
> With regards to removal of the deprecated producers, the current thinking
> is to remove all Scala clients at the same time, so it will take at least
> two non bug-fix release cycles (it could take longer depending on users'
> feedback).
>
> The feedback was mostly positive in the discuss thread although some points
> were raised about deprecating the old producers before deprecating the old
> consumers:
>
> http://search-hadoop.com/m/uyzND1KVJJmcbgAf2&subj=+DISCUSS+Deprecating+the+old+Scala+producers+for+the+next+release
>
> The JIRA for tracking this is KAFKA-2982.
>
> The vote will run for 72 hours.
>
> Thanks,
> Ismael