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[POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Next in my series of struts-user polls (please complain if this gets old).
What sort of ActionForms does everyone use?
#1 ActionForm
#2 DynaActionForm
Personally, I'm an advocate of the DynaActionForm as it seems to be able to
do 80-90% of everything I need to do and everything else can be done in my
business tier. I have, however, run into another person who is dead set
against using it. His rationale is that you are then unable to do custom
validation when you use the DynaValidatorForm... I think you can still do
it, it's just a little more difficult, but, I'm polling to see if I'm out in
left field...
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Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Posted by Graham Leggett <mi...@sharp.fm>.
Mainguy, Mike wrote:
> #1 ActionForm
> #2 DynaActionForm
I use DyanActionForms, as they are less work.
Less work, less time, less money, etc.
Regards,
Graham
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Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Posted by Koni Roth <ko...@bluewin.ch>.
#2 DynaActionForm
I don't think custom validation is difficult. We use commons validation
together with custom validation and it works fine.
Koni
Mainguy, Mike wrote:
> Next in my series of struts-user polls (please complain if this gets old).
>
> What sort of ActionForms does everyone use?
>
> #1 ActionForm
> #2 DynaActionForm
>
> Personally, I'm an advocate of the DynaActionForm as it seems to be able to
> do 80-90% of everything I need to do and everything else can be done in my
> business tier. I have, however, run into another person who is dead set
> against using it. His rationale is that you are then unable to do custom
> validation when you use the DynaValidatorForm... I think you can still do
> it, it's just a little more difficult, but, I'm polling to see if I'm out in
> left field...
>
>
>
>
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Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Posted by Adam Hardy <ah...@cyberspaceroad.com>.
On 09/30/2003 09:04 PM Ted Husted wrote:
> As mentioned, you can subclass DynaActionForm and create whatever custom
> validations you need for a particular set of fields.
>
> What's trickier is using different Validator validations without
> defining a new DynaActionForm. Here, the trick is that the Validator
> goes by the "attribute" property, not the "name" property. Since the
> attribute defaults to the name property, many people don't specify it.
> But you can use it to create a coarse-grained DynaActionForm, and then
> define different Validator forms to use with different workflows.
Hi Ted,
didn't have time to digest this when it first came over the wire but now
I'm looking at it, I'm puzzled why we have DynaValidatorActionForm as
well as DynaValidatorForm.
DynaValidatorForm allows us to specify a validation configuration for a
named form, i.e. the action mapping's name. If this is too restrictive,
we can, if I understand correctly, specify a different validation
configuration in the action mapping's attribute.
So why do we need DynaValidatorActionForm, which allows us to specify a
validation configuration based on the path? It seems superfluous, or is
there some kind of restriction on the 'attribute' attribute which I
don't know of?
Adam
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Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
As mentioned, you can subclass DynaActionForm and create whatever custom
validations you need for a particular set of fields.
What's trickier is using different Validator validations without
defining a new DynaActionForm. Here, the trick is that the Validator
goes by the "attribute" property, not the "name" property. Since the
attribute defaults to the name property, many people don't specify it.
But you can use it to create a coarse-grained DynaActionForm, and then
define different Validator forms to use with different workflows.
-Ted.
Mainguy, Mike wrote:
> Next in my series of struts-user polls (please complain if this gets old).
>
> What sort of ActionForms does everyone use?
>
> #1 ActionForm
> #2 DynaActionForm
>
> Personally, I'm an advocate of the DynaActionForm as it seems to be able to
> do 80-90% of everything I need to do and everything else can be done in my
> business tier. I have, however, run into another person who is dead set
> against using it. His rationale is that you are then unable to do custom
> validation when you use the DynaValidatorForm... I think you can still do
> it, it's just a little more difficult, but, I'm polling to see if I'm out in
> left field...
>
>
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Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Posted by Sgarlata Matt <sg...@bah.com>.
Definitely not old; I love the polls!
There is not a single regular ActionForm in my project. #2 all the way.
I will also mention that Craig McClanahan did some speed tests of
ActionForms vs. DynaActionForms and since ActionForms use reflection whereas
DynaActionForms do simple method calls on Maps, DynaActionForms run faster
in addition to being easier to create :)
Matt
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Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Posted by Adam Hardy <ah...@cyberspaceroad.com>.
DynaActionForm +1
On 09/30/2003 06:52 PM Mainguy, Mike wrote:
> Next in my series of struts-user polls (please complain if this gets old).
>
> What sort of ActionForms does everyone use?
>
> #1 ActionForm
> #2 DynaActionForm
>
> Personally, I'm an advocate of the DynaActionForm as it seems to be able to
> do 80-90% of everything I need to do and everything else can be done in my
> business tier. I have, however, run into another person who is dead set
> against using it. His rationale is that you are then unable to do custom
> validation when you use the DynaValidatorForm... I think you can still do
> it, it's just a little more difficult, but, I'm polling to see if I'm out in
> left field...
>
>
>
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Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Posted by "Craig R. McClanahan" <cr...@apache.org>.
Nick wrote:
>So why can't you write a unit test for Dyna*Forms? It's easy to load the struts-config.xml
>and create the necessary form beans for out-of-container testing.
>
>
This approach would be even easier if Struts provided some "mock
objects" infrastructure with premade utility classes that help you do
this sort of thing. That's one of the enhancement areas on my wishlist
for future versions of Struts.
Craig
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Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Posted by Nick <ni...@systemmobile.com>.
So why can't you write a unit test for Dyna*Forms? It's easy to load the struts-config.xml
and create the necessary form beans for out-of-container testing.
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 06:45:22PM +0800, Andrew Hill wrote:
> I subscribe to that school. I believe everything should have a unit test.
> Its a very good school...
>
> ...I just happen to be playing truant today.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:mgalbreath@dirtroad.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:41
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
>
>
> That's fine if, of course, you subscribe to the school of thought
> prescribing a pre-code test (which I do not).
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vic Cekvenic [mailto:cekvenich_vic@basebeans.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:06 AM
> To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
>
>
> +1 ActionForms.
>
> On of the benefits of Modular/MVC programing is that you can unit test a
> module, before integrating it.
>
> .V
>
> Andrew Hill wrote:
> > Call me old fashioned but I always use good old hand coded ActionForms.
> > Guess I like having something my compiler can get its teeth into. :-)
> >
> > Now that Im using Eclipse getters and setters are no problem at all. I
> love
> > that generate getter & setter menu option. :-)
> >
> > (Validation isnt an issue for me either way as Ive always found it more
> > convenient to do in the Action)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mainguy, Mike [mailto:MMainguy@kmart.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 00:52
> > To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
> > Subject: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
> >
> >
> > Next in my series of struts-user polls (please complain if this gets old).
> >
> > What sort of ActionForms does everyone use?
> >
> > #1 ActionForm
> > #2 DynaActionForm
> >
> > Personally, I'm an advocate of the DynaActionForm as it seems to be able
> to
> > do 80-90% of everything I need to do and everything else can be done in my
> > business tier. I have, however, run into another person who is dead set
> > against using it. His rationale is that you are then unable to do custom
> > validation when you use the DynaValidatorForm... I think you can still do
> > it, it's just a little more difficult, but, I'm polling to see if I'm out
> in
> > left field...
> >
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RE: [OT] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Posted by Andrew Hill <an...@gridnode.com>.
hmmm...
perhaps they need a section on Mark & me in the FAQ? ;-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:mgalbreath@dirtroad.net]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 19:22
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [OT] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
At the time, I couldn't think of a suitably rude-enough disparaging remark
for an expatriate Aussie. Nevertheless, for posterity's and newbies' sakes,
we do kid each other here from time-to-time and no real personal attacks are
tolerated.
That being said, Andrew, I never have liked you.
Mark
;-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Husted [mailto:husted@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 7:08 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
I know you guys are used to joshing each other, but let's still observe
the rule that while we might disrespect a technology choice, but we
don't disrespect the person making the choice.
Of course, anyone who knows Mark and Andrew knows this exchange is all
in good fun, but all of this gets archived for posterity, and people new
to the list can take it out of context.
-Ted.
Mark Galbreath wrote:
> Reread my post, you illiterate pseudo-limey!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Hill [mailto:andrew.david.hill@gridnode.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 6:45 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
>
> I subscribe to that school. I believe everything should have a unit test.
> Its a very good school...
>
> ...I just happen to be playing truant today.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:mgalbreath@dirtroad.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:41
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
>
> That's fine if, of course, you subscribe to the school of thought
> prescribing a pre-code test (which I do not).
>
> Mark
>
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RE: [OT] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Posted by Mark Galbreath <mg...@dirtroad.net>.
At the time, I couldn't think of a suitably rude-enough disparaging remark
for an expatriate Aussie. Nevertheless, for posterity's and newbies' sakes,
we do kid each other here from time-to-time and no real personal attacks are
tolerated.
That being said, Andrew, I never have liked you.
Mark
;-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Husted [mailto:husted@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 7:08 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
I know you guys are used to joshing each other, but let's still observe
the rule that while we might disrespect a technology choice, but we
don't disrespect the person making the choice.
Of course, anyone who knows Mark and Andrew knows this exchange is all
in good fun, but all of this gets archived for posterity, and people new
to the list can take it out of context.
-Ted.
Mark Galbreath wrote:
> Reread my post, you illiterate pseudo-limey!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Hill [mailto:andrew.david.hill@gridnode.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 6:45 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
>
> I subscribe to that school. I believe everything should have a unit test.
> Its a very good school...
>
> ...I just happen to be playing truant today.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:mgalbreath@dirtroad.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:41
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
>
> That's fine if, of course, you subscribe to the school of thought
> prescribing a pre-code test (which I do not).
>
> Mark
>
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Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
I know you guys are used to joshing each other, but let's still observe
the rule that while we might disrespect a technology choice, but we
don't disrespect the person making the choice.
Of course, anyone who knows Mark and Andrew knows this exchange is all
in good fun, but all of this gets archived for posterity, and people new
to the list can take it out of context.
-Ted.
Mark Galbreath wrote:
> Reread my post, you illiterate pseudo-limey!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Hill [mailto:andrew.david.hill@gridnode.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 6:45 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
>
> I subscribe to that school. I believe everything should have a unit test.
> Its a very good school...
>
> ...I just happen to be playing truant today.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:mgalbreath@dirtroad.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:41
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
>
> That's fine if, of course, you subscribe to the school of thought
> prescribing a pre-code test (which I do not).
>
> Mark
>
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RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Posted by Mark Galbreath <mg...@dirtroad.net>.
Reread my post, you illiterate pseudo-limey!
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Hill [mailto:andrew.david.hill@gridnode.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 6:45 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
I subscribe to that school. I believe everything should have a unit test.
Its a very good school...
...I just happen to be playing truant today.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:mgalbreath@dirtroad.net]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:41
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
That's fine if, of course, you subscribe to the school of thought
prescribing a pre-code test (which I do not).
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Vic Cekvenic [mailto:cekvenich_vic@basebeans.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:06 AM
To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
+1 ActionForms.
On of the benefits of Modular/MVC programing is that you can unit test a
module, before integrating it.
.V
Andrew Hill wrote:
> Call me old fashioned but I always use good old hand coded ActionForms.
> Guess I like having something my compiler can get its teeth into. :-)
>
> Now that Im using Eclipse getters and setters are no problem at all. I
love
> that generate getter & setter menu option. :-)
>
> (Validation isnt an issue for me either way as Ive always found it more
> convenient to do in the Action)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mainguy, Mike [mailto:MMainguy@kmart.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 00:52
> To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
>
>
> Next in my series of struts-user polls (please complain if this gets old).
>
> What sort of ActionForms does everyone use?
>
> #1 ActionForm
> #2 DynaActionForm
>
> Personally, I'm an advocate of the DynaActionForm as it seems to be able
to
> do 80-90% of everything I need to do and everything else can be done in my
> business tier. I have, however, run into another person who is dead set
> against using it. His rationale is that you are then unable to do custom
> validation when you use the DynaValidatorForm... I think you can still do
> it, it's just a little more difficult, but, I'm polling to see if I'm out
in
> left field...
>
>
>
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RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Posted by Andrew Hill <an...@gridnode.com>.
I subscribe to that school. I believe everything should have a unit test.
Its a very good school...
...I just happen to be playing truant today.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:mgalbreath@dirtroad.net]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:41
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
That's fine if, of course, you subscribe to the school of thought
prescribing a pre-code test (which I do not).
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Vic Cekvenic [mailto:cekvenich_vic@basebeans.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:06 AM
To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
+1 ActionForms.
On of the benefits of Modular/MVC programing is that you can unit test a
module, before integrating it.
.V
Andrew Hill wrote:
> Call me old fashioned but I always use good old hand coded ActionForms.
> Guess I like having something my compiler can get its teeth into. :-)
>
> Now that Im using Eclipse getters and setters are no problem at all. I
love
> that generate getter & setter menu option. :-)
>
> (Validation isnt an issue for me either way as Ive always found it more
> convenient to do in the Action)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mainguy, Mike [mailto:MMainguy@kmart.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 00:52
> To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
>
>
> Next in my series of struts-user polls (please complain if this gets old).
>
> What sort of ActionForms does everyone use?
>
> #1 ActionForm
> #2 DynaActionForm
>
> Personally, I'm an advocate of the DynaActionForm as it seems to be able
to
> do 80-90% of everything I need to do and everything else can be done in my
> business tier. I have, however, run into another person who is dead set
> against using it. His rationale is that you are then unable to do custom
> validation when you use the DynaValidatorForm... I think you can still do
> it, it's just a little more difficult, but, I'm polling to see if I'm out
in
> left field...
>
>
>
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RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Posted by Mark Galbreath <mg...@dirtroad.net>.
That's fine if, of course, you subscribe to the school of thought
prescribing a pre-code test (which I do not).
Mark
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From: Vic Cekvenic [mailto:cekvenich_vic@basebeans.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:06 AM
To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
+1 ActionForms.
On of the benefits of Modular/MVC programing is that you can unit test a
module, before integrating it.
.V
Andrew Hill wrote:
> Call me old fashioned but I always use good old hand coded ActionForms.
> Guess I like having something my compiler can get its teeth into. :-)
>
> Now that Im using Eclipse getters and setters are no problem at all. I
love
> that generate getter & setter menu option. :-)
>
> (Validation isnt an issue for me either way as Ive always found it more
> convenient to do in the Action)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mainguy, Mike [mailto:MMainguy@kmart.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 00:52
> To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
>
>
> Next in my series of struts-user polls (please complain if this gets old).
>
> What sort of ActionForms does everyone use?
>
> #1 ActionForm
> #2 DynaActionForm
>
> Personally, I'm an advocate of the DynaActionForm as it seems to be able
to
> do 80-90% of everything I need to do and everything else can be done in my
> business tier. I have, however, run into another person who is dead set
> against using it. His rationale is that you are then unable to do custom
> validation when you use the DynaValidatorForm... I think you can still do
> it, it's just a little more difficult, but, I'm polling to see if I'm out
in
> left field...
>
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Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Posted by Vic Cekvenic <ce...@basebeans.com>.
+1 ActionForms.
On of the benefits of Modular/MVC programing is that you can unit test a
module, before integrating it.
.V
Andrew Hill wrote:
> Call me old fashioned but I always use good old hand coded ActionForms.
> Guess I like having something my compiler can get its teeth into. :-)
>
> Now that Im using Eclipse getters and setters are no problem at all. I love
> that generate getter & setter menu option. :-)
>
> (Validation isnt an issue for me either way as Ive always found it more
> convenient to do in the Action)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mainguy, Mike [mailto:MMainguy@kmart.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 00:52
> To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
>
>
> Next in my series of struts-user polls (please complain if this gets old).
>
> What sort of ActionForms does everyone use?
>
> #1 ActionForm
> #2 DynaActionForm
>
> Personally, I'm an advocate of the DynaActionForm as it seems to be able to
> do 80-90% of everything I need to do and everything else can be done in my
> business tier. I have, however, run into another person who is dead set
> against using it. His rationale is that you are then unable to do custom
> validation when you use the DynaValidatorForm... I think you can still do
> it, it's just a little more difficult, but, I'm polling to see if I'm out in
> left field...
>
>
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RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Posted by Steve Raeburn <sr...@apache.org>.
#2 - It was I revelation when I realised I didn't need to write ActionForms!
(But one day soon I'm going to look at XDoclet to see what that can do for
me).
Steve
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mainguy, Mike [mailto:MMainguy@kmart.com]
> Sent: September 30, 2003 9:52 AM
> To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
>
>
> Next in my series of struts-user polls (please complain if this gets old).
>
> What sort of ActionForms does everyone use?
>
> #1 ActionForm
> #2 DynaActionForm
>
> Personally, I'm an advocate of the DynaActionForm as it seems to
> be able to
> do 80-90% of everything I need to do and everything else can be done in my
> business tier. I have, however, run into another person who is dead set
> against using it. His rationale is that you are then unable to do custom
> validation when you use the DynaValidatorForm... I think you can still do
> it, it's just a little more difficult, but, I'm polling to see if
> I'm out in
> left field...
>
>
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RE: [OT] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Posted by Mark Galbreath <mg...@dirtroad.net>.
Don't quit yer day job - the Malaysian Poet Laureate position is probably
tentative at best.
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Hill [mailto:andrew.david.hill@gridnode.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 7:10 AM
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Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=struts-user&m=102696975022454&w=2
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:mgalbreath@dirtroad.net]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:59
To: Struts Users Mailing List; andrew.david.hill@gridnode.com
Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
"when?"
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Hill [mailto:andrew.david.hill@gridnode.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 6:39 AM
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Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
That was me and it was over a year ago when I was a struts newbie...
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Hardy [mailto:ahardy.struts@cyberspaceroad.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:33
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
I remember a while back I think it was Mark made an excellent post about
his problem with ActionForms that went along the lines of 'Old Macdonald
had an ActionForm'.
Well basically I think the problem was he had edited an existing
ActionForm and messed up the getter / setter so that his JSP refused to
recognise the form as a Javabean and it ended up costing a fair few
hours work to track down the error.
So another +1 for DynaActionForms.
On 10/01/2003 06:02 AM Andrew Hill wrote:
> Call me old fashioned but I always use good old hand coded ActionForms.
> Guess I like having something my compiler can get its teeth into. :-)
>
> Now that Im using Eclipse getters and setters are no problem at all. I
love
> that generate getter & setter menu option. :-)
>
> (Validation isnt an issue for me either way as Ive always found it more
> convenient to do in the Action)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mainguy, Mike [mailto:MMainguy@kmart.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 00:52
> To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
>
>
> Next in my series of struts-user polls (please complain if this gets old).
>
> What sort of ActionForms does everyone use?
>
> #1 ActionForm
> #2 DynaActionForm
>
> Personally, I'm an advocate of the DynaActionForm as it seems to be able
to
> do 80-90% of everything I need to do and everything else can be done in my
> business tier. I have, however, run into another person who is dead set
> against using it. His rationale is that you are then unable to do custom
> validation when you use the DynaValidatorForm... I think you can still do
> it, it's just a little more difficult, but, I'm polling to see if I'm out
in
> left field...
>
>
>
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RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Posted by Andrew Hill <an...@gridnode.com>.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=struts-user&m=102696975022454&w=2
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:mgalbreath@dirtroad.net]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:59
To: Struts Users Mailing List; andrew.david.hill@gridnode.com
Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
"when?"
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Hill [mailto:andrew.david.hill@gridnode.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 6:39 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
That was me and it was over a year ago when I was a struts newbie...
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Hardy [mailto:ahardy.struts@cyberspaceroad.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:33
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
I remember a while back I think it was Mark made an excellent post about
his problem with ActionForms that went along the lines of 'Old Macdonald
had an ActionForm'.
Well basically I think the problem was he had edited an existing
ActionForm and messed up the getter / setter so that his JSP refused to
recognise the form as a Javabean and it ended up costing a fair few
hours work to track down the error.
So another +1 for DynaActionForms.
On 10/01/2003 06:02 AM Andrew Hill wrote:
> Call me old fashioned but I always use good old hand coded ActionForms.
> Guess I like having something my compiler can get its teeth into. :-)
>
> Now that Im using Eclipse getters and setters are no problem at all. I
love
> that generate getter & setter menu option. :-)
>
> (Validation isnt an issue for me either way as Ive always found it more
> convenient to do in the Action)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mainguy, Mike [mailto:MMainguy@kmart.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 00:52
> To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
>
>
> Next in my series of struts-user polls (please complain if this gets old).
>
> What sort of ActionForms does everyone use?
>
> #1 ActionForm
> #2 DynaActionForm
>
> Personally, I'm an advocate of the DynaActionForm as it seems to be able
to
> do 80-90% of everything I need to do and everything else can be done in my
> business tier. I have, however, run into another person who is dead set
> against using it. His rationale is that you are then unable to do custom
> validation when you use the DynaValidatorForm... I think you can still do
> it, it's just a little more difficult, but, I'm polling to see if I'm out
in
> left field...
>
>
>
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RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Posted by Mark Galbreath <mg...@dirtroad.net>.
"when?"
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Hill [mailto:andrew.david.hill@gridnode.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 6:39 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
That was me and it was over a year ago when I was a struts newbie...
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Hardy [mailto:ahardy.struts@cyberspaceroad.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:33
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
I remember a while back I think it was Mark made an excellent post about
his problem with ActionForms that went along the lines of 'Old Macdonald
had an ActionForm'.
Well basically I think the problem was he had edited an existing
ActionForm and messed up the getter / setter so that his JSP refused to
recognise the form as a Javabean and it ended up costing a fair few
hours work to track down the error.
So another +1 for DynaActionForms.
On 10/01/2003 06:02 AM Andrew Hill wrote:
> Call me old fashioned but I always use good old hand coded ActionForms.
> Guess I like having something my compiler can get its teeth into. :-)
>
> Now that Im using Eclipse getters and setters are no problem at all. I
love
> that generate getter & setter menu option. :-)
>
> (Validation isnt an issue for me either way as Ive always found it more
> convenient to do in the Action)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mainguy, Mike [mailto:MMainguy@kmart.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 00:52
> To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
>
>
> Next in my series of struts-user polls (please complain if this gets old).
>
> What sort of ActionForms does everyone use?
>
> #1 ActionForm
> #2 DynaActionForm
>
> Personally, I'm an advocate of the DynaActionForm as it seems to be able
to
> do 80-90% of everything I need to do and everything else can be done in my
> business tier. I have, however, run into another person who is dead set
> against using it. His rationale is that you are then unable to do custom
> validation when you use the DynaValidatorForm... I think you can still do
> it, it's just a little more difficult, but, I'm polling to see if I'm out
in
> left field...
>
>
>
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RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Posted by Andrew Hill <an...@gridnode.com>.
That was me and it was over a year ago when I was a struts newbie...
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Hardy [mailto:ahardy.struts@cyberspaceroad.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:33
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
I remember a while back I think it was Mark made an excellent post about
his problem with ActionForms that went along the lines of 'Old Macdonald
had an ActionForm'.
Well basically I think the problem was he had edited an existing
ActionForm and messed up the getter / setter so that his JSP refused to
recognise the form as a Javabean and it ended up costing a fair few
hours work to track down the error.
So another +1 for DynaActionForms.
On 10/01/2003 06:02 AM Andrew Hill wrote:
> Call me old fashioned but I always use good old hand coded ActionForms.
> Guess I like having something my compiler can get its teeth into. :-)
>
> Now that Im using Eclipse getters and setters are no problem at all. I
love
> that generate getter & setter menu option. :-)
>
> (Validation isnt an issue for me either way as Ive always found it more
> convenient to do in the Action)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mainguy, Mike [mailto:MMainguy@kmart.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 00:52
> To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
>
>
> Next in my series of struts-user polls (please complain if this gets old).
>
> What sort of ActionForms does everyone use?
>
> #1 ActionForm
> #2 DynaActionForm
>
> Personally, I'm an advocate of the DynaActionForm as it seems to be able
to
> do 80-90% of everything I need to do and everything else can be done in my
> business tier. I have, however, run into another person who is dead set
> against using it. His rationale is that you are then unable to do custom
> validation when you use the DynaValidatorForm... I think you can still do
> it, it's just a little more difficult, but, I'm polling to see if I'm out
in
> left field...
>
>
>
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Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Posted by Adam Hardy <ah...@cyberspaceroad.com>.
I remember a while back I think it was Mark made an excellent post about
his problem with ActionForms that went along the lines of 'Old Macdonald
had an ActionForm'.
Well basically I think the problem was he had edited an existing
ActionForm and messed up the getter / setter so that his JSP refused to
recognise the form as a Javabean and it ended up costing a fair few
hours work to track down the error.
So another +1 for DynaActionForms.
On 10/01/2003 06:02 AM Andrew Hill wrote:
> Call me old fashioned but I always use good old hand coded ActionForms.
> Guess I like having something my compiler can get its teeth into. :-)
>
> Now that Im using Eclipse getters and setters are no problem at all. I love
> that generate getter & setter menu option. :-)
>
> (Validation isnt an issue for me either way as Ive always found it more
> convenient to do in the Action)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mainguy, Mike [mailto:MMainguy@kmart.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 00:52
> To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
>
>
> Next in my series of struts-user polls (please complain if this gets old).
>
> What sort of ActionForms does everyone use?
>
> #1 ActionForm
> #2 DynaActionForm
>
> Personally, I'm an advocate of the DynaActionForm as it seems to be able to
> do 80-90% of everything I need to do and everything else can be done in my
> business tier. I have, however, run into another person who is dead set
> against using it. His rationale is that you are then unable to do custom
> validation when you use the DynaValidatorForm... I think you can still do
> it, it's just a little more difficult, but, I'm polling to see if I'm out in
> left field...
>
>
>
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RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Posted by Andrew Hill <an...@gridnode.com>.
Call me old fashioned but I always use good old hand coded ActionForms.
Guess I like having something my compiler can get its teeth into. :-)
Now that Im using Eclipse getters and setters are no problem at all. I love
that generate getter & setter menu option. :-)
(Validation isnt an issue for me either way as Ive always found it more
convenient to do in the Action)
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From: Mainguy, Mike [mailto:MMainguy@kmart.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 00:52
To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Next in my series of struts-user polls (please complain if this gets old).
What sort of ActionForms does everyone use?
#1 ActionForm
#2 DynaActionForm
Personally, I'm an advocate of the DynaActionForm as it seems to be able to
do 80-90% of everything I need to do and everything else can be done in my
business tier. I have, however, run into another person who is dead set
against using it. His rationale is that you are then unable to do custom
validation when you use the DynaValidatorForm... I think you can still do
it, it's just a little more difficult, but, I'm polling to see if I'm out in
left field...
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