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testing done?
Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is gone, that's why I'm asking.
Thanks.
RE: testing done?
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
Oh, sorry,
Work computer: JDK, 1.8.0_171, JRE, 1.8.0_201
Home computer: JDK, 10.0.2, JRE, 1.8.0_181
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From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:35 AM
To: peter@webparity.net
Cc: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid>; joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>; netcat@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: testing done?
Well, let’s start by understanding your environment. Which operating system are you on? Which JDK?
Gj
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 15:30, <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
> Also, when I click SAVE, it takes forever or not at all and I have to
> KILL NBs.
>
> I'm running NB's on a 250 gb SSD Drive so there's NO excuse for this
> not working. I don't understand, people.
>
> Please advise because 10 and 11 for me are NOT reliable.
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
> Owner and Developer
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: peter@webparity.net <pe...@webparity.net>
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 7:25 AM
> To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>;
> 'joe schmo' <ge...@hotmail.com>
> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: RE: testing done?
>
> All,
>
> I'm experiencing a lag when using NB 10. I format and get a message,
> "it's taking too long..."
>
> Scrolling is DELAYED... 1 - 3s...
>
> I've changed the -J-Xms1024m but boosting it up to 2048 like I did for
> NB
> 8.2 which works without issues. NB 10 and 11 LOCKS UP after a while
> and have to close it with Task Manager.
>
> I click Garbage collection and the number stays around 748/1024.
>
> I’m concerned that I can't use the best of NB 10 and 11 but cannot. I
> have to revert back to using 8.2 since 10 and 11 are not stable...
>
> ANY SUGGESTIONS would be greatly appreciated. I've been using NB since
> 2013. My company is pushing me to use InteliJ and Eclipse, both which SUCK!
>
> Thoughts, please?
>
> netbeans_default_options="-J-XX:+UseStringDeduplication -J-Xss2m
> -J-Xms1024m -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2
> -J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true
> -J-Dapple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz=true -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true
> -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=true -J-Dsun.zip.disableMemoryMapping=true
> -J-Dplugin.manager.check.updates=false
> -J-Dnetbeans.extbrowser.manual_chrome_plugin_install=yes
> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.net=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang.ref=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.security=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.prefs/java.util.prefs=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=jdk.jshell/jdk.jshell=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-modules=jdk.jshell
> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/java.awt.peer=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.beans.editors=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.im=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-exports=jdk.internal.jvmstat/sun.jvmstat.monitor=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-exports=java.management/sun.management=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-exports=java.base/sun.reflect.annotation=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-exports=jdk.javadoc/com.sun.tools.javadoc.main=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J-XX:+IgnoreUnrecognizedVMOptions --fontsize 18"
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 11:26 PM
> To: joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>
> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
> Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
>
> Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has
> been done.
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is
> > gone, that's why I'm asking.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
>
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RE: testing done?
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
Sorry, I keep forgetting to reply to all
How do I ignore .spec.ts?
^(CVS|SCCS|vssver.?\.scc|#.*#|%.*%|_svn)$|~$|^\.(?!htaccess$).*$
Also, what I’m seeing is the first line of nearly every .ts file states,
PROJECT ERROR: Cannot find definition for cropperjs
This is false, since it’s in the typings.d.ts file and @type was created as well.
This red line’s the FIRST LINE of ever .ts file but does not throw any error on compile or when it runs…
This has shown up in NB 8.2, 9, 10, 11…
Thank you
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From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:57 PM
To: peter@webparity.net
Cc: Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>; netcat@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: testing done?
Are you aware you can exclude complete folders from being scanned by NetBeans, which could speed parsing up a lot? See the Files section in the Miscellaneous tab of the Options window.
Gj
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 20:36, <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > wrote:
Geertjan,
First we have a number of components and services written by our team in India. What’s huge is that number. There are over 15,000 objects saved in git not including the node_modules folder.
Some of these files are over 2500 lines, some as little as 50.
Just to let you know, when I run compodoc (an npm library for documentation of Angular projects) it crashes due to memory problems but this is a known issue with Compodoc and Vincent the creator of the library is addressing this.
There are over 200 folders in the hierarchal structure…
They are all .ts, .spec.ts, .scss, .html in most of the folders.
That’s what I mean by huge.
Hope this helps
Peter Borreggine
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From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com <ma...@googlemail.com> >
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:25 PM
To: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net>
Cc: Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> >; netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: testing done?
They are huge, with what, exactly? What is it that is huge? The number of files written by you yourself? The number of lines of code per file? The number of JavaScript libraries downloaded by your framework? So, great, your projects are huge, but in what way, exactly?
Gj
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 17:18, <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > > wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, but how do I make a Head Dump?
I'm running Node JS, Angular 5 and 7 on different projects and THEY ARE HUGE.
My home projects a minimalist and my work projects are MASSIVE...
That "may" be the issues. Also, I only run 1 or 2 projects in my project group as keeping ALL open will really clog up the plumbing
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From: Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> <mailto:laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> > >
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:03 AM
To: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> <mailto:netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> >
Subject: Re: testing done?
Well it would be good to know which modules are you using, like you are developing some UI with Nod JS.
Also you could make some heapdump if you feel the slowness. ore even before and after that.
A sample project and steps to follow to reproduce the issue.
More details the better.
On 3/28/19 8:51 AM, peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > wrote:
> I use WIN 10 PRO on all my machines.
>
> My home system is a 2 TB drive, not SSD, my work computer is a 250 GB SSD drive.
>
> My home system NB 10 seems to be "stable" for now... better than my work computer.
>
> My Work computer has CARBON BLACK for the Anti-virus and I'm VPN to my corporate network through my home network.
>
> My home system uses Trend Micro Titanium for Anti-virus.
>
> The slowness is more on my work system (ACER LAPTOP) and my home computer is a 2 year old HP Pavilion Desktop with 16 GB memory.
>
> My work computer (ACER LAPTOP) has only 8 GB memory.
>
> Whatever else you need, I'll send.
>
> Thank you
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
> Owner and Developer
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> > >
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:35 AM
> To: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> >
> Cc: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid <mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid <ma...@googlemail.com.invalid> > >; joe
> schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> <mailto:geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> > >; netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> <mailto:netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> >
> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
> Well, let’s start by understanding your environment. Which operating system are you on? Which JDK?
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 15:30, <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > > wrote:
>
>> Also, when I click SAVE, it takes forever or not at all and I have to
>> KILL NBs.
>>
>> I'm running NB's on a 250 gb SSD Drive so there's NO excuse for this
>> not working. I don't understand, people.
>>
>> Please advise because 10 and 11 for me are NOT reliable.
>>
>>
>> Peter Borreggine
>> Owner and Developer
>> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
>> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
>> Business WA State License: 603-501-609
>> 360-830-8926 C
>>
>> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
>> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>>
>> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s)
>> and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are
>> not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > >
>> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 7:25 AM
>> To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> > >;
>> 'joe schmo' <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> <mailto:geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> > >
>> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> <mailto:netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> >
>> Subject: RE: testing done?
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I'm experiencing a lag when using NB 10. I format and get a message,
>> "it's taking too long..."
>>
>> Scrolling is DELAYED... 1 - 3s...
>>
>> I've changed the -J-Xms1024m but boosting it up to 2048 like I did
>> for NB
>> 8.2 which works without issues. NB 10 and 11 LOCKS UP after a while
>> and have to close it with Task Manager.
>>
>> I click Garbage collection and the number stays around 748/1024.
>>
>> I’m concerned that I can't use the best of NB 10 and 11 but cannot. I
>> have to revert back to using 8.2 since 10 and 11 are not stable...
>>
>> ANY SUGGESTIONS would be greatly appreciated. I've been using NB
>> since 2013. My company is pushing me to use InteliJ and Eclipse, both which SUCK!
>>
>> Thoughts, please?
>>
>> netbeans_default_options="-J-XX:+UseStringDeduplication -J-Xss2m
>> -J-Xms1024m -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2
>> -J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true
>> -J-Dapple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz=true -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true
>> -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=true -J-Dsun.zip.disableMemoryMapping=true
>> -J-Dplugin.manager.check.updates=false
>> -J-Dnetbeans.extbrowser.manual_chrome_plugin_install=yes
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.net <http://java.net> <http://java.net> =ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang.ref=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.security=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.prefs/java.util.prefs=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=jdk.jshell/jdk.jshell=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-modules=jdk.jshell
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/java.awt.peer=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.beans.editors=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.im <http://sun.awt.im> <http://sun.awt.im> =ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=jdk.internal.jvmstat/sun.jvmstat.monitor=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.management/sun.management=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.base/sun.reflect.annotation=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=jdk.javadoc/com.sun.tools.javadoc.main=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J-XX:+IgnoreUnrecognizedVMOptions --fontsize 18"
>>
>>
>> Peter Borreggine
>> Owner and Developer
>> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
>> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
>> Business WA State
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>> 360-830-8926 C
>>
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>> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> > >
>> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 11:26 PM
>> To: joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> <mailto:geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> > >
>> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> <mailto:netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> >
>> Subject: Re: testing done?
>>
>> Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
>>
>> Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has
>> been done.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> <mailto:geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> > > wrote:
>>
>>> Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is
>>> gone, that's why I'm asking.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com>.
Hi Scott,
My JSE project has 622 java files (about 130k ncsl). But I’ve used NB 8
at a previous company without any of the delays you mention - and there, I
had a JSE project with some 4,000+ Java files.
tom
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:07 AM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I’m not the only one in my organization that has issues with NB speed, and
> that was with 8.2.
> Some of the others choose to use Eclipse because these operations are so
> much faster (no perceivable delay vs seconds of delay in NB).
>
> I’m the only one that has tried NB 11 so far.
>
> I will try to see if I can make a Maven project template that will load my
> project for testing purposes It would be too much work to make a similar
> size project from scratch and small projects are less likely to exhibit the
> problem.
>
> Just curious, how many java files are in the projects you are using?
>
> I have a bit over 900 .java files in multiple sub-projects. Usually 3 or
> 4 of the subprojects would be open in NB. The three main projects have:
>
> 489 java files
> 304 java files
> 61 java files
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Are others seeing the slowness?"
>
> I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you describe.
> I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my project with
> JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first used it in 1999) and
> 8.2 was pretty quick compared to some previous releases. I certainly
> didn't think it was any slower in doing the activities you mention than,
> say, IntelliJ that I recently tried out for a week or so. If you thought
> 8.2 was already slow, perhaps it's something environmental related - i.e.
> something in your setup.
> (a few years ago, some people were having problems with NB on networked
> file systems. Is your project on a shared/networked drive? Just stabbing
> in the dark.)
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:33 AM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share
>> my project.
>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is
>> basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing
>> happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for
>> several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a
>> private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>>
>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
>> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so
>> far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than
>> other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping
>> the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some
>> sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I
>> don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my
>> project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
>>
>> Are others seeing the slowness?
>>
>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the
>> time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE,
>> sometimes more.
>>
>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>>
>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can
>> collect something useful.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
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RE: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
There are only 44 .java files for me and I never program in Java. I'm an Angular/Node/Bootstrap guy. This is for 8.2
There are only 33 being used in NB 10
There are only 36 being used in NB 11
This is for me...
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Subject: Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
I’m not the only one in my organization that has issues with NB speed, and that was with 8.2.
Some of the others choose to use Eclipse because these operations are so much faster (no perceivable delay vs seconds of delay in NB).
I’m the only one that has tried NB 11 so far.
I will try to see if I can make a Maven project template that will load my project for testing purposes It would be too much work to make a similar size project from scratch and small projects are less likely to exhibit the problem.
Just curious, how many java files are in the projects you are using?
I have a bit over 900 .java files in multiple sub-projects. Usually 3 or 4 of the subprojects would be open in NB. The three main projects have:
489 java files
304 java files
61 java files
Scott
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Are others seeing the slowness?"
>
> I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you describe. I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my project with JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first used it in 1999) and 8.2 was pretty quick compared to some previous releases. I certainly didn't think it was any slower in doing the activities you mention than, say, IntelliJ that I recently tried out for a week or so. If you thought 8.2 was already slow, perhaps it's something environmental related - i.e. something in your setup.
> (a few years ago, some people were having problems with NB on
> networked file systems. Is your project on a shared/networked drive?
> Just stabbing in the dark.)
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:33 AM Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share my project.
> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>
> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have
> so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much
> slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB
> 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t
> interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help
> find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and
> not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide
> helpful reports :-(
>
> Are others seeing the slowness?
>
> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE, sometimes more.
>
> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>
> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can collect something useful.
>
> Scott
>
>
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RE: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
There are only 44 .java files for me and I never program in Java. I'm an Angular/Node/Bootstrap guy. This is for 8.2
There are only 33 being used in NB 10
There are only 36 being used in NB 11
This is for me...
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Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 8:08 AM
To: Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com>
Cc: dev <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>; netcat <ne...@netbeans.apache.org>; Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
Subject: Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
I’m not the only one in my organization that has issues with NB speed, and that was with 8.2.
Some of the others choose to use Eclipse because these operations are so much faster (no perceivable delay vs seconds of delay in NB).
I’m the only one that has tried NB 11 so far.
I will try to see if I can make a Maven project template that will load my project for testing purposes It would be too much work to make a similar size project from scratch and small projects are less likely to exhibit the problem.
Just curious, how many java files are in the projects you are using?
I have a bit over 900 .java files in multiple sub-projects. Usually 3 or 4 of the subprojects would be open in NB. The three main projects have:
489 java files
304 java files
61 java files
Scott
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Are others seeing the slowness?"
>
> I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you describe. I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my project with JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first used it in 1999) and 8.2 was pretty quick compared to some previous releases. I certainly didn't think it was any slower in doing the activities you mention than, say, IntelliJ that I recently tried out for a week or so. If you thought 8.2 was already slow, perhaps it's something environmental related - i.e. something in your setup.
> (a few years ago, some people were having problems with NB on
> networked file systems. Is your project on a shared/networked drive?
> Just stabbing in the dark.)
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:33 AM Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share my project.
> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>
> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have
> so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much
> slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB
> 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t
> interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help
> find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and
> not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide
> helpful reports :-(
>
> Are others seeing the slowness?
>
> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE, sometimes more.
>
> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>
> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can collect something useful.
>
> Scott
>
>
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RE: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
OH? So Gradle is "built-into" NBs?
Forgive my ignorance. Thank you
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Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 8:14 AM
To: dev <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
Cc: Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com>; netcat <ne...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
You are using Gradle. There is no reason not to believe that the problems you encounter are with Gradle.
Also, Kirk has provided clear guidance about how to help identify the cause of the problem here.
And here is the project I use in NetBeans, considerably more than 900 files, etc: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
Gj
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:07 PM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I’m not the only one in my organization that has issues with NB speed,
> and that was with 8.2.
> Some of the others choose to use Eclipse because these operations are
> so much faster (no perceivable delay vs seconds of delay in NB).
>
> I’m the only one that has tried NB 11 so far.
>
> I will try to see if I can make a Maven project template that will
> load my project for testing purposes It would be too much work to make
> a similar size project from scratch and small projects are less likely
> to exhibit the problem.
>
> Just curious, how many java files are in the projects you are using?
>
> I have a bit over 900 .java files in multiple sub-projects. Usually 3
> or
> 4 of the subprojects would be open in NB. The three main projects have:
>
> 489 java files
> 304 java files
> 61 java files
>
> Scott
>
>
> > On Apr 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > "Are others seeing the slowness?"
> >
> > I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you
> describe. I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my
> project with JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first
> used it in 1999) and 8.2 was pretty quick compared to some previous
> releases. I certainly didn't think it was any slower in doing the
> activities you mention than, say, IntelliJ that I recently tried out
> for a week or so. If you thought 8.2 was already slow, perhaps it's
> something environmental related - i.e. something in your setup.
> > (a few years ago, some people were having problems with NB on
> > networked
> file systems. Is your project on a shared/networked drive? Just
> stabbing in the dark.)
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:33 AM Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t
> > share
> my project.
> > I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the
> > problem
> is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete -
> nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t
> appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second
> delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
> >
> > In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have
> so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much
> slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB
> 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t
> interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help
> find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and
> not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide
> helpful reports :-(
> >
> > Are others seeing the slowness?
> >
> > Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use
> > all
> the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the
> IDE, sometimes more.
> >
> > I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> > I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
> >
> > Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe
> > I
> can collect something useful.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Kodewerk <ki...@kodewerk.com>.
Hi,
It is my belief that we can solve this with about 2 or 3 strategically timed thread dumps. The thing with execution profiling is that it will pick up the hot method. In this case there is likely something hung up and it’s very likely that the execution profiler will miss it. The NB execution profiler misses just about every non-event causing a performance regression unless you configure it appropriately. Stack traces only contain the safe-point bias which I suspect won’t be a factor in this case. But without *any* data, this is all speculation.
Kind regards,
Kirk
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 9:15 AM, <pe...@webparity.net> <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
>
> NB 11 just locked up cutting and pasting, then just got a message: not responsive for 20 sec... Sent 10 review and reports...
>
>
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> To: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
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> Subject: Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
>
> I understand that nothing will happen unless I can provide some useful data. That is why I started the conversation. I will try to collect the requested data.
>
> There are times when NB is responsive, and other times when it is painfully slow. I have to be ready to get the data when the slowdowns are presenting.
>
> I have also noticed that NB 11 seems to use significantly more memory. That may be related. But right now NB is responsive, though I am working from home at the moment via Remote Desktop, so it isn’t ideal eating conditions.
> I remember NB taking less than 1GB most of the time, but NB 11 is about double.
>
>
> Scott
>
>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:14 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> You are using Gradle. There is no reason not to believe that the
>> problems you encounter are with Gradle.
>>
>> Also, Kirk has provided clear guidance about how to help identify the
>> cause of the problem here.
>>
>> And here is the project I use in NetBeans, considerably more than 900
>> files, etc: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:07 PM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m not the only one in my organization that has issues with NB
>>> speed, and that was with 8.2.
>>> Some of the others choose to use Eclipse because these operations are
>>> so much faster (no perceivable delay vs seconds of delay in NB).
>>>
>>> I’m the only one that has tried NB 11 so far.
>>>
>>> I will try to see if I can make a Maven project template that will
>>> load my project for testing purposes It would be too much work to
>>> make a similar size project from scratch and small projects are less
>>> likely to exhibit the problem.
>>>
>>> Just curious, how many java files are in the projects you are using?
>>>
>>> I have a bit over 900 .java files in multiple sub-projects. Usually
>>> 3 or
>>> 4 of the subprojects would be open in NB. The three main projects have:
>>>
>>> 489 java files
>>> 304 java files
>>> 61 java files
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Are others seeing the slowness?"
>>>>
>>>> I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you
>>> describe. I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my
>>> project with JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first
>>> used it in 1999) and 8.2 was pretty quick compared to some previous
>>> releases. I certainly didn't think it was any slower in doing the
>>> activities you mention than, say, IntelliJ that I recently tried out
>>> for a week or so. If you thought 8.2 was already slow, perhaps it's
>>> something environmental related - i.e. something in your setup.
>>>> (a few years ago, some people were having problems with NB on
>>>> networked
>>> file systems. Is your project on a shared/networked drive? Just
>>> stabbing in the dark.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:33 AM Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t
>>>> share
>>> my project.
>>>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the
>>>> problem
>>> is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete -
>>> nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t
>>> appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second
>>> delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>>>>
>>>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
>>> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I
>>> have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is
>>> much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness
>>> of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease
>>> don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to
>>> help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug
>>> NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to
>>> provide helpful reports :-(
>>>>
>>>> Are others seeing the slowness?
>>>>
>>>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use
>>>> all
>>> the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from
>>> the IDE, sometimes more.
>>>>
>>>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
>>>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe
>>>> I
>>> can collect something useful.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> http://landofwolf.blogspot.com/ <http://landofwolf.blogspot.com/>
>>>
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RE: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
Darn it!
I thought that by clicking review and report it did it automatically. That would be a great thing to automatically create a JIRA ticket when a problem occurs. Do you all concur?
Because having to retype everything slows progress.
V/r
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Subject: Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
You did? I was under the impression that in Apache Netbeans you had to manually create a Jira ticket.
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:15 PM <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > wrote:
NB 11 just locked up cutting and pasting, then just got a message: not responsive for 20 sec... Sent 10 review and reports...
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Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 8:37 AM
To: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan@apache.org <ma...@apache.org> >
Cc: dev <dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org> >; Thomas Wolf <tjwolf@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> >; netcat <netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> >
Subject: Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
I understand that nothing will happen unless I can provide some useful data. That is why I started the conversation. I will try to collect the requested data.
There are times when NB is responsive, and other times when it is painfully slow. I have to be ready to get the data when the slowdowns are presenting.
I have also noticed that NB 11 seems to use significantly more memory. That may be related. But right now NB is responsive, though I am working from home at the moment via Remote Desktop, so it isn’t ideal eating conditions.
I remember NB taking less than 1GB most of the time, but NB 11 is about double.
Scott
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:14 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan@apache.org <ma...@apache.org> > wrote:
>
> You are using Gradle. There is no reason not to believe that the
> problems you encounter are with Gradle.
>
> Also, Kirk has provided clear guidance about how to help identify the
> cause of the problem here.
>
> And here is the project I use in NetBeans, considerably more than 900
> files, etc: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:07 PM Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>> I’m not the only one in my organization that has issues with NB
>> speed, and that was with 8.2.
>> Some of the others choose to use Eclipse because these operations are
>> so much faster (no perceivable delay vs seconds of delay in NB).
>>
>> I’m the only one that has tried NB 11 so far.
>>
>> I will try to see if I can make a Maven project template that will
>> load my project for testing purposes It would be too much work to
>> make a similar size project from scratch and small projects are less
>> likely to exhibit the problem.
>>
>> Just curious, how many java files are in the projects you are using?
>>
>> I have a bit over 900 .java files in multiple sub-projects. Usually
>> 3 or
>> 4 of the subprojects would be open in NB. The three main projects have:
>>
>> 489 java files
>> 304 java files
>> 61 java files
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Wolf <tjwolf@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>
>>> "Are others seeing the slowness?"
>>>
>>> I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you
>> describe. I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my
>> project with JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first
>> used it in 1999) and 8.2 was pretty quick compared to some previous
>> releases. I certainly didn't think it was any slower in doing the
>> activities you mention than, say, IntelliJ that I recently tried out
>> for a week or so. If you thought 8.2 was already slow, perhaps it's
>> something environmental related - i.e. something in your setup.
>>> (a few years ago, some people were having problems with NB on
>>> networked
>> file systems. Is your project on a shared/networked drive? Just
>> stabbing in the dark.)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:33 AM Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>> <mailto:swpalmer@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> >> wrote:
>>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t
>>> share
>> my project.
>>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the
>>> problem
>> is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete -
>> nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t
>> appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second
>> delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>>>
>>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
>> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I
>> have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is
>> much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness
>> of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease
>> don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to
>> help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug
>> NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to
>> provide helpful reports :-(
>>>
>>> Are others seeing the slowness?
>>>
>>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use
>>> all
>> the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from
>> the IDE, sometimes more.
>>>
>>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
>>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>>>
>>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe
>>> I
>> can collect something useful.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
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RE: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
Darn it!
I thought that by clicking review and report it did it automatically. That would be a great thing to automatically create a JIRA ticket when a problem occurs. Do you all concur?
Because having to retype everything slows progress.
V/r
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Subject: Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
You did? I was under the impression that in Apache Netbeans you had to manually create a Jira ticket.
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:15 PM <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > wrote:
NB 11 just locked up cutting and pasting, then just got a message: not responsive for 20 sec... Sent 10 review and reports...
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Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 8:37 AM
To: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan@apache.org <ma...@apache.org> >
Cc: dev <dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org> >; Thomas Wolf <tjwolf@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> >; netcat <netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> >
Subject: Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
I understand that nothing will happen unless I can provide some useful data. That is why I started the conversation. I will try to collect the requested data.
There are times when NB is responsive, and other times when it is painfully slow. I have to be ready to get the data when the slowdowns are presenting.
I have also noticed that NB 11 seems to use significantly more memory. That may be related. But right now NB is responsive, though I am working from home at the moment via Remote Desktop, so it isn’t ideal eating conditions.
I remember NB taking less than 1GB most of the time, but NB 11 is about double.
Scott
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:14 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan@apache.org <ma...@apache.org> > wrote:
>
> You are using Gradle. There is no reason not to believe that the
> problems you encounter are with Gradle.
>
> Also, Kirk has provided clear guidance about how to help identify the
> cause of the problem here.
>
> And here is the project I use in NetBeans, considerably more than 900
> files, etc: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:07 PM Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>> I’m not the only one in my organization that has issues with NB
>> speed, and that was with 8.2.
>> Some of the others choose to use Eclipse because these operations are
>> so much faster (no perceivable delay vs seconds of delay in NB).
>>
>> I’m the only one that has tried NB 11 so far.
>>
>> I will try to see if I can make a Maven project template that will
>> load my project for testing purposes It would be too much work to
>> make a similar size project from scratch and small projects are less
>> likely to exhibit the problem.
>>
>> Just curious, how many java files are in the projects you are using?
>>
>> I have a bit over 900 .java files in multiple sub-projects. Usually
>> 3 or
>> 4 of the subprojects would be open in NB. The three main projects have:
>>
>> 489 java files
>> 304 java files
>> 61 java files
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Wolf <tjwolf@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>>>
>>> "Are others seeing the slowness?"
>>>
>>> I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you
>> describe. I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my
>> project with JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first
>> used it in 1999) and 8.2 was pretty quick compared to some previous
>> releases. I certainly didn't think it was any slower in doing the
>> activities you mention than, say, IntelliJ that I recently tried out
>> for a week or so. If you thought 8.2 was already slow, perhaps it's
>> something environmental related - i.e. something in your setup.
>>> (a few years ago, some people were having problems with NB on
>>> networked
>> file systems. Is your project on a shared/networked drive? Just
>> stabbing in the dark.)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:33 AM Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
>> <mailto:swpalmer@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> >> wrote:
>>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t
>>> share
>> my project.
>>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the
>>> problem
>> is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete -
>> nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t
>> appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second
>> delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>>>
>>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
>> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I
>> have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is
>> much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness
>> of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease
>> don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to
>> help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug
>> NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to
>> provide helpful reports :-(
>>>
>>> Are others seeing the slowness?
>>>
>>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use
>>> all
>> the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from
>> the IDE, sometimes more.
>>>
>>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
>>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>>>
>>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe
>>> I
>> can collect something useful.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com>.
You did? I was under the impression that in Apache Netbeans you had to
manually create a Jira ticket.
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:15 PM <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
> NB 11 just locked up cutting and pasting, then just got a message: not
> responsive for 20 sec... Sent 10 review and reports...
>
>
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> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 8:37 AM
> To: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
> Cc: dev <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>; Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com>;
> netcat <ne...@netbeans.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
>
> I understand that nothing will happen unless I can provide some useful
> data. That is why I started the conversation. I will try to collect the
> requested data.
>
> There are times when NB is responsive, and other times when it is
> painfully slow. I have to be ready to get the data when the slowdowns are
> presenting.
>
> I have also noticed that NB 11 seems to use significantly more memory.
> That may be related. But right now NB is responsive, though I am working
> from home at the moment via Remote Desktop, so it isn’t ideal eating
> conditions.
> I remember NB taking less than 1GB most of the time, but NB 11 is about
> double.
>
>
> Scott
>
> > On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:14 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > You are using Gradle. There is no reason not to believe that the
> > problems you encounter are with Gradle.
> >
> > Also, Kirk has provided clear guidance about how to help identify the
> > cause of the problem here.
> >
> > And here is the project I use in NetBeans, considerably more than 900
> > files, etc: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:07 PM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I’m not the only one in my organization that has issues with NB
> >> speed, and that was with 8.2.
> >> Some of the others choose to use Eclipse because these operations are
> >> so much faster (no perceivable delay vs seconds of delay in NB).
> >>
> >> I’m the only one that has tried NB 11 so far.
> >>
> >> I will try to see if I can make a Maven project template that will
> >> load my project for testing purposes It would be too much work to
> >> make a similar size project from scratch and small projects are less
> >> likely to exhibit the problem.
> >>
> >> Just curious, how many java files are in the projects you are using?
> >>
> >> I have a bit over 900 .java files in multiple sub-projects. Usually
> >> 3 or
> >> 4 of the subprojects would be open in NB. The three main projects have:
> >>
> >> 489 java files
> >> 304 java files
> >> 61 java files
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "Are others seeing the slowness?"
> >>>
> >>> I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you
> >> describe. I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my
> >> project with JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first
> >> used it in 1999) and 8.2 was pretty quick compared to some previous
> >> releases. I certainly didn't think it was any slower in doing the
> >> activities you mention than, say, IntelliJ that I recently tried out
> >> for a week or so. If you thought 8.2 was already slow, perhaps it's
> >> something environmental related - i.e. something in your setup.
> >>> (a few years ago, some people were having problems with NB on
> >>> networked
> >> file systems. Is your project on a shared/networked drive? Just
> >> stabbing in the dark.)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:33 AM Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
> >> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t
> >>> share
> >> my project.
> >>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the
> >>> problem
> >> is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete -
> >> nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t
> >> appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second
> >> delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
> >>>
> >>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
> >> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I
> >> have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is
> >> much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness
> >> of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease
> >> don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to
> >> help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug
> >> NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to
> >> provide helpful reports :-(
> >>>
> >>> Are others seeing the slowness?
> >>>
> >>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use
> >>> all
> >> the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from
> >> the IDE, sometimes more.
> >>>
> >>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> >>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
> >>>
> >>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe
> >>> I
> >> can collect something useful.
> >>>
> >>> Scott
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Kodewerk <ki...@kodewerk.com>.
Hi,
It is my belief that we can solve this with about 2 or 3 strategically timed thread dumps. The thing with execution profiling is that it will pick up the hot method. In this case there is likely something hung up and it’s very likely that the execution profiler will miss it. The NB execution profiler misses just about every non-event causing a performance regression unless you configure it appropriately. Stack traces only contain the safe-point bias which I suspect won’t be a factor in this case. But without *any* data, this is all speculation.
Kind regards,
Kirk
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 9:15 AM, <pe...@webparity.net> <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
>
> NB 11 just locked up cutting and pasting, then just got a message: not responsive for 20 sec... Sent 10 review and reports...
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
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> Subject: Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
>
> I understand that nothing will happen unless I can provide some useful data. That is why I started the conversation. I will try to collect the requested data.
>
> There are times when NB is responsive, and other times when it is painfully slow. I have to be ready to get the data when the slowdowns are presenting.
>
> I have also noticed that NB 11 seems to use significantly more memory. That may be related. But right now NB is responsive, though I am working from home at the moment via Remote Desktop, so it isn’t ideal eating conditions.
> I remember NB taking less than 1GB most of the time, but NB 11 is about double.
>
>
> Scott
>
>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:14 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> You are using Gradle. There is no reason not to believe that the
>> problems you encounter are with Gradle.
>>
>> Also, Kirk has provided clear guidance about how to help identify the
>> cause of the problem here.
>>
>> And here is the project I use in NetBeans, considerably more than 900
>> files, etc: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:07 PM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m not the only one in my organization that has issues with NB
>>> speed, and that was with 8.2.
>>> Some of the others choose to use Eclipse because these operations are
>>> so much faster (no perceivable delay vs seconds of delay in NB).
>>>
>>> I’m the only one that has tried NB 11 so far.
>>>
>>> I will try to see if I can make a Maven project template that will
>>> load my project for testing purposes It would be too much work to
>>> make a similar size project from scratch and small projects are less
>>> likely to exhibit the problem.
>>>
>>> Just curious, how many java files are in the projects you are using?
>>>
>>> I have a bit over 900 .java files in multiple sub-projects. Usually
>>> 3 or
>>> 4 of the subprojects would be open in NB. The three main projects have:
>>>
>>> 489 java files
>>> 304 java files
>>> 61 java files
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Are others seeing the slowness?"
>>>>
>>>> I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you
>>> describe. I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my
>>> project with JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first
>>> used it in 1999) and 8.2 was pretty quick compared to some previous
>>> releases. I certainly didn't think it was any slower in doing the
>>> activities you mention than, say, IntelliJ that I recently tried out
>>> for a week or so. If you thought 8.2 was already slow, perhaps it's
>>> something environmental related - i.e. something in your setup.
>>>> (a few years ago, some people were having problems with NB on
>>>> networked
>>> file systems. Is your project on a shared/networked drive? Just
>>> stabbing in the dark.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:33 AM Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t
>>>> share
>>> my project.
>>>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the
>>>> problem
>>> is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete -
>>> nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t
>>> appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second
>>> delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>>>>
>>>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
>>> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I
>>> have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is
>>> much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness
>>> of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease
>>> don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to
>>> help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug
>>> NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to
>>> provide helpful reports :-(
>>>>
>>>> Are others seeing the slowness?
>>>>
>>>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use
>>>> all
>>> the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from
>>> the IDE, sometimes more.
>>>>
>>>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
>>>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe
>>>> I
>>> can collect something useful.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com>.
On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:37 PM, Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com.INVALID> wrote:
>
> On 4/12/19 11:15 AM, peter@webparity.net wrote:
>> NB 11 just locked up cutting and pasting
>
> Is there a good reason for this entire thread to be cross-posted?
I originally include groups that I thought could help. I’m fine with just dev.
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com.INVALID>.
On 4/12/19 11:15 AM, peter@webparity.net wrote:
> NB 11 just locked up cutting and pasting
Is there a good reason for this entire thread to be cross-posted?
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com>.
You did? I was under the impression that in Apache Netbeans you had to
manually create a Jira ticket.
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:15 PM <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
> NB 11 just locked up cutting and pasting, then just got a message: not
> responsive for 20 sec... Sent 10 review and reports...
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
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> From: Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 8:37 AM
> To: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
> Cc: dev <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>; Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com>;
> netcat <ne...@netbeans.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
>
> I understand that nothing will happen unless I can provide some useful
> data. That is why I started the conversation. I will try to collect the
> requested data.
>
> There are times when NB is responsive, and other times when it is
> painfully slow. I have to be ready to get the data when the slowdowns are
> presenting.
>
> I have also noticed that NB 11 seems to use significantly more memory.
> That may be related. But right now NB is responsive, though I am working
> from home at the moment via Remote Desktop, so it isn’t ideal eating
> conditions.
> I remember NB taking less than 1GB most of the time, but NB 11 is about
> double.
>
>
> Scott
>
> > On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:14 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > You are using Gradle. There is no reason not to believe that the
> > problems you encounter are with Gradle.
> >
> > Also, Kirk has provided clear guidance about how to help identify the
> > cause of the problem here.
> >
> > And here is the project I use in NetBeans, considerably more than 900
> > files, etc: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:07 PM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I’m not the only one in my organization that has issues with NB
> >> speed, and that was with 8.2.
> >> Some of the others choose to use Eclipse because these operations are
> >> so much faster (no perceivable delay vs seconds of delay in NB).
> >>
> >> I’m the only one that has tried NB 11 so far.
> >>
> >> I will try to see if I can make a Maven project template that will
> >> load my project for testing purposes It would be too much work to
> >> make a similar size project from scratch and small projects are less
> >> likely to exhibit the problem.
> >>
> >> Just curious, how many java files are in the projects you are using?
> >>
> >> I have a bit over 900 .java files in multiple sub-projects. Usually
> >> 3 or
> >> 4 of the subprojects would be open in NB. The three main projects have:
> >>
> >> 489 java files
> >> 304 java files
> >> 61 java files
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "Are others seeing the slowness?"
> >>>
> >>> I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you
> >> describe. I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my
> >> project with JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first
> >> used it in 1999) and 8.2 was pretty quick compared to some previous
> >> releases. I certainly didn't think it was any slower in doing the
> >> activities you mention than, say, IntelliJ that I recently tried out
> >> for a week or so. If you thought 8.2 was already slow, perhaps it's
> >> something environmental related - i.e. something in your setup.
> >>> (a few years ago, some people were having problems with NB on
> >>> networked
> >> file systems. Is your project on a shared/networked drive? Just
> >> stabbing in the dark.)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:33 AM Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
> >> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t
> >>> share
> >> my project.
> >>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the
> >>> problem
> >> is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete -
> >> nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t
> >> appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second
> >> delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
> >>>
> >>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
> >> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I
> >> have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is
> >> much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness
> >> of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease
> >> don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to
> >> help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug
> >> NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to
> >> provide helpful reports :-(
> >>>
> >>> Are others seeing the slowness?
> >>>
> >>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use
> >>> all
> >> the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from
> >> the IDE, sometimes more.
> >>>
> >>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> >>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
> >>>
> >>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe
> >>> I
> >> can collect something useful.
> >>>
> >>> Scott
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>> http://landofwolf.blogspot.com/ <http://landofwolf.blogspot.com/>
> >>
>
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RE: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
NB 11 just locked up cutting and pasting, then just got a message: not responsive for 20 sec... Sent 10 review and reports...
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Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 8:37 AM
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Cc: dev <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>; Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com>; netcat <ne...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
I understand that nothing will happen unless I can provide some useful data. That is why I started the conversation. I will try to collect the requested data.
There are times when NB is responsive, and other times when it is painfully slow. I have to be ready to get the data when the slowdowns are presenting.
I have also noticed that NB 11 seems to use significantly more memory. That may be related. But right now NB is responsive, though I am working from home at the moment via Remote Desktop, so it isn’t ideal eating conditions.
I remember NB taking less than 1GB most of the time, but NB 11 is about double.
Scott
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:14 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> You are using Gradle. There is no reason not to believe that the
> problems you encounter are with Gradle.
>
> Also, Kirk has provided clear guidance about how to help identify the
> cause of the problem here.
>
> And here is the project I use in NetBeans, considerably more than 900
> files, etc: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:07 PM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I’m not the only one in my organization that has issues with NB
>> speed, and that was with 8.2.
>> Some of the others choose to use Eclipse because these operations are
>> so much faster (no perceivable delay vs seconds of delay in NB).
>>
>> I’m the only one that has tried NB 11 so far.
>>
>> I will try to see if I can make a Maven project template that will
>> load my project for testing purposes It would be too much work to
>> make a similar size project from scratch and small projects are less
>> likely to exhibit the problem.
>>
>> Just curious, how many java files are in the projects you are using?
>>
>> I have a bit over 900 .java files in multiple sub-projects. Usually
>> 3 or
>> 4 of the subprojects would be open in NB. The three main projects have:
>>
>> 489 java files
>> 304 java files
>> 61 java files
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Are others seeing the slowness?"
>>>
>>> I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you
>> describe. I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my
>> project with JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first
>> used it in 1999) and 8.2 was pretty quick compared to some previous
>> releases. I certainly didn't think it was any slower in doing the
>> activities you mention than, say, IntelliJ that I recently tried out
>> for a week or so. If you thought 8.2 was already slow, perhaps it's
>> something environmental related - i.e. something in your setup.
>>> (a few years ago, some people were having problems with NB on
>>> networked
>> file systems. Is your project on a shared/networked drive? Just
>> stabbing in the dark.)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:33 AM Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t
>>> share
>> my project.
>>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the
>>> problem
>> is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete -
>> nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t
>> appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second
>> delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>>>
>>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
>> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I
>> have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is
>> much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness
>> of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease
>> don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to
>> help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug
>> NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to
>> provide helpful reports :-(
>>>
>>> Are others seeing the slowness?
>>>
>>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use
>>> all
>> the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from
>> the IDE, sometimes more.
>>>
>>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
>>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>>>
>>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe
>>> I
>> can collect something useful.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> http://landofwolf.blogspot.com/ <http://landofwolf.blogspot.com/>
>>
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RE: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
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Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 8:37 AM
To: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
Cc: dev <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>; Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com>; netcat <ne...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
I understand that nothing will happen unless I can provide some useful data. That is why I started the conversation. I will try to collect the requested data.
There are times when NB is responsive, and other times when it is painfully slow. I have to be ready to get the data when the slowdowns are presenting.
I have also noticed that NB 11 seems to use significantly more memory. That may be related. But right now NB is responsive, though I am working from home at the moment via Remote Desktop, so it isn’t ideal eating conditions.
I remember NB taking less than 1GB most of the time, but NB 11 is about double.
Scott
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:14 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> You are using Gradle. There is no reason not to believe that the
> problems you encounter are with Gradle.
>
> Also, Kirk has provided clear guidance about how to help identify the
> cause of the problem here.
>
> And here is the project I use in NetBeans, considerably more than 900
> files, etc: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:07 PM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I’m not the only one in my organization that has issues with NB
>> speed, and that was with 8.2.
>> Some of the others choose to use Eclipse because these operations are
>> so much faster (no perceivable delay vs seconds of delay in NB).
>>
>> I’m the only one that has tried NB 11 so far.
>>
>> I will try to see if I can make a Maven project template that will
>> load my project for testing purposes It would be too much work to
>> make a similar size project from scratch and small projects are less
>> likely to exhibit the problem.
>>
>> Just curious, how many java files are in the projects you are using?
>>
>> I have a bit over 900 .java files in multiple sub-projects. Usually
>> 3 or
>> 4 of the subprojects would be open in NB. The three main projects have:
>>
>> 489 java files
>> 304 java files
>> 61 java files
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Are others seeing the slowness?"
>>>
>>> I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you
>> describe. I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my
>> project with JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first
>> used it in 1999) and 8.2 was pretty quick compared to some previous
>> releases. I certainly didn't think it was any slower in doing the
>> activities you mention than, say, IntelliJ that I recently tried out
>> for a week or so. If you thought 8.2 was already slow, perhaps it's
>> something environmental related - i.e. something in your setup.
>>> (a few years ago, some people were having problems with NB on
>>> networked
>> file systems. Is your project on a shared/networked drive? Just
>> stabbing in the dark.)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:33 AM Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t
>>> share
>> my project.
>>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the
>>> problem
>> is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete -
>> nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t
>> appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second
>> delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>>>
>>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
>> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I
>> have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is
>> much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness
>> of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease
>> don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to
>> help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug
>> NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to
>> provide helpful reports :-(
>>>
>>> Are others seeing the slowness?
>>>
>>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use
>>> all
>> the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from
>> the IDE, sometimes more.
>>>
>>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
>>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>>>
>>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe
>>> I
>> can collect something useful.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com>.
I understand that nothing will happen unless I can provide some useful data. That is why I started the conversation. I will try to collect the requested data.
There are times when NB is responsive, and other times when it is painfully slow. I have to be ready to get the data when the slowdowns are presenting.
I have also noticed that NB 11 seems to use significantly more memory. That may be related. But right now NB is responsive, though I am working from home at the moment via Remote Desktop, so it isn’t ideal eating conditions.
I remember NB taking less than 1GB most of the time, but NB 11 is about double.
Scott
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:14 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> You are using Gradle. There is no reason not to believe that the problems
> you encounter are with Gradle.
>
> Also, Kirk has provided clear guidance about how to help identify the cause
> of the problem here.
>
> And here is the project I use in NetBeans, considerably more than 900
> files, etc: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:07 PM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I’m not the only one in my organization that has issues with NB speed, and
>> that was with 8.2.
>> Some of the others choose to use Eclipse because these operations are so
>> much faster (no perceivable delay vs seconds of delay in NB).
>>
>> I’m the only one that has tried NB 11 so far.
>>
>> I will try to see if I can make a Maven project template that will load my
>> project for testing purposes It would be too much work to make a similar
>> size project from scratch and small projects are less likely to exhibit the
>> problem.
>>
>> Just curious, how many java files are in the projects you are using?
>>
>> I have a bit over 900 .java files in multiple sub-projects. Usually 3 or
>> 4 of the subprojects would be open in NB. The three main projects have:
>>
>> 489 java files
>> 304 java files
>> 61 java files
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Are others seeing the slowness?"
>>>
>>> I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you
>> describe. I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my
>> project with JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first used it
>> in 1999) and 8.2 was pretty quick compared to some previous releases. I
>> certainly didn't think it was any slower in doing the activities you
>> mention than, say, IntelliJ that I recently tried out for a week or so. If
>> you thought 8.2 was already slow, perhaps it's something environmental
>> related - i.e. something in your setup.
>>> (a few years ago, some people were having problems with NB on networked
>> file systems. Is your project on a shared/networked drive? Just stabbing
>> in the dark.)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:33 AM Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share
>> my project.
>>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem
>> is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing
>> happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for
>> several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a
>> private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>>>
>>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
>> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so
>> far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than
>> other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping
>> the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some
>> sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I
>> don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my
>> project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
>>>
>>> Are others seeing the slowness?
>>>
>>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all
>> the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE,
>> sometimes more.
>>>
>>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
>>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>>>
>>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I
>> can collect something useful.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com>.
I understand that nothing will happen unless I can provide some useful data. That is why I started the conversation. I will try to collect the requested data.
There are times when NB is responsive, and other times when it is painfully slow. I have to be ready to get the data when the slowdowns are presenting.
I have also noticed that NB 11 seems to use significantly more memory. That may be related. But right now NB is responsive, though I am working from home at the moment via Remote Desktop, so it isn’t ideal eating conditions.
I remember NB taking less than 1GB most of the time, but NB 11 is about double.
Scott
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 11:14 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> You are using Gradle. There is no reason not to believe that the problems
> you encounter are with Gradle.
>
> Also, Kirk has provided clear guidance about how to help identify the cause
> of the problem here.
>
> And here is the project I use in NetBeans, considerably more than 900
> files, etc: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:07 PM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I’m not the only one in my organization that has issues with NB speed, and
>> that was with 8.2.
>> Some of the others choose to use Eclipse because these operations are so
>> much faster (no perceivable delay vs seconds of delay in NB).
>>
>> I’m the only one that has tried NB 11 so far.
>>
>> I will try to see if I can make a Maven project template that will load my
>> project for testing purposes It would be too much work to make a similar
>> size project from scratch and small projects are less likely to exhibit the
>> problem.
>>
>> Just curious, how many java files are in the projects you are using?
>>
>> I have a bit over 900 .java files in multiple sub-projects. Usually 3 or
>> 4 of the subprojects would be open in NB. The three main projects have:
>>
>> 489 java files
>> 304 java files
>> 61 java files
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Are others seeing the slowness?"
>>>
>>> I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you
>> describe. I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my
>> project with JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first used it
>> in 1999) and 8.2 was pretty quick compared to some previous releases. I
>> certainly didn't think it was any slower in doing the activities you
>> mention than, say, IntelliJ that I recently tried out for a week or so. If
>> you thought 8.2 was already slow, perhaps it's something environmental
>> related - i.e. something in your setup.
>>> (a few years ago, some people were having problems with NB on networked
>> file systems. Is your project on a shared/networked drive? Just stabbing
>> in the dark.)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:33 AM Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share
>> my project.
>>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem
>> is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing
>> happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for
>> several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a
>> private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>>>
>>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
>> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so
>> far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than
>> other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping
>> the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some
>> sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I
>> don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my
>> project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
>>>
>>> Are others seeing the slowness?
>>>
>>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all
>> the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE,
>> sometimes more.
>>>
>>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
>>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>>>
>>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I
>> can collect something useful.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
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>>> http://landofwolf.blogspot.com/ <http://landofwolf.blogspot.com/>
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RE: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
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OH? So Gradle is "built-into" NBs?
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To: dev <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
Cc: Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com>; netcat <ne...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
You are using Gradle. There is no reason not to believe that the problems you encounter are with Gradle.
Also, Kirk has provided clear guidance about how to help identify the cause of the problem here.
And here is the project I use in NetBeans, considerably more than 900 files, etc: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
Gj
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:07 PM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I’m not the only one in my organization that has issues with NB speed,
> and that was with 8.2.
> Some of the others choose to use Eclipse because these operations are
> so much faster (no perceivable delay vs seconds of delay in NB).
>
> I’m the only one that has tried NB 11 so far.
>
> I will try to see if I can make a Maven project template that will
> load my project for testing purposes It would be too much work to make
> a similar size project from scratch and small projects are less likely
> to exhibit the problem.
>
> Just curious, how many java files are in the projects you are using?
>
> I have a bit over 900 .java files in multiple sub-projects. Usually 3
> or
> 4 of the subprojects would be open in NB. The three main projects have:
>
> 489 java files
> 304 java files
> 61 java files
>
> Scott
>
>
> > On Apr 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > "Are others seeing the slowness?"
> >
> > I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you
> describe. I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my
> project with JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first
> used it in 1999) and 8.2 was pretty quick compared to some previous
> releases. I certainly didn't think it was any slower in doing the
> activities you mention than, say, IntelliJ that I recently tried out
> for a week or so. If you thought 8.2 was already slow, perhaps it's
> something environmental related - i.e. something in your setup.
> > (a few years ago, some people were having problems with NB on
> > networked
> file systems. Is your project on a shared/networked drive? Just
> stabbing in the dark.)
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:33 AM Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t
> > share
> my project.
> > I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the
> > problem
> is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete -
> nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t
> appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second
> delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
> >
> > In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have
> so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much
> slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB
> 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t
> interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help
> find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and
> not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide
> helpful reports :-(
> >
> > Are others seeing the slowness?
> >
> > Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use
> > all
> the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the
> IDE, sometimes more.
> >
> > I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> > I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
> >
> > Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe
> > I
> can collect something useful.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
You are using Gradle. There is no reason not to believe that the problems
you encounter are with Gradle.
Also, Kirk has provided clear guidance about how to help identify the cause
of the problem here.
And here is the project I use in NetBeans, considerably more than 900
files, etc: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
Gj
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:07 PM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I’m not the only one in my organization that has issues with NB speed, and
> that was with 8.2.
> Some of the others choose to use Eclipse because these operations are so
> much faster (no perceivable delay vs seconds of delay in NB).
>
> I’m the only one that has tried NB 11 so far.
>
> I will try to see if I can make a Maven project template that will load my
> project for testing purposes It would be too much work to make a similar
> size project from scratch and small projects are less likely to exhibit the
> problem.
>
> Just curious, how many java files are in the projects you are using?
>
> I have a bit over 900 .java files in multiple sub-projects. Usually 3 or
> 4 of the subprojects would be open in NB. The three main projects have:
>
> 489 java files
> 304 java files
> 61 java files
>
> Scott
>
>
> > On Apr 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > "Are others seeing the slowness?"
> >
> > I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you
> describe. I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my
> project with JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first used it
> in 1999) and 8.2 was pretty quick compared to some previous releases. I
> certainly didn't think it was any slower in doing the activities you
> mention than, say, IntelliJ that I recently tried out for a week or so. If
> you thought 8.2 was already slow, perhaps it's something environmental
> related - i.e. something in your setup.
> > (a few years ago, some people were having problems with NB on networked
> file systems. Is your project on a shared/networked drive? Just stabbing
> in the dark.)
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:33 AM Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share
> my project.
> > I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem
> is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing
> happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for
> several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a
> private member of a class less than 100 lines.
> >
> > In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so
> far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than
> other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping
> the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some
> sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I
> don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my
> project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
> >
> > Are others seeing the slowness?
> >
> > Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all
> the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE,
> sometimes more.
> >
> > I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> > I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
> >
> > Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I
> can collect something useful.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: netcat-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org <mailto:
> netcat-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org>
> > For additional commands, e-mail: netcat-help@netbeans.apache.org
> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> >
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> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > tjwolf@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>
> > http://landofwolf.blogspot.com/ <http://landofwolf.blogspot.com/>
>
Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
You are using Gradle. There is no reason not to believe that the problems
you encounter are with Gradle.
Also, Kirk has provided clear guidance about how to help identify the cause
of the problem here.
And here is the project I use in NetBeans, considerably more than 900
files, etc: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans
Gj
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:07 PM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I’m not the only one in my organization that has issues with NB speed, and
> that was with 8.2.
> Some of the others choose to use Eclipse because these operations are so
> much faster (no perceivable delay vs seconds of delay in NB).
>
> I’m the only one that has tried NB 11 so far.
>
> I will try to see if I can make a Maven project template that will load my
> project for testing purposes It would be too much work to make a similar
> size project from scratch and small projects are less likely to exhibit the
> problem.
>
> Just curious, how many java files are in the projects you are using?
>
> I have a bit over 900 .java files in multiple sub-projects. Usually 3 or
> 4 of the subprojects would be open in NB. The three main projects have:
>
> 489 java files
> 304 java files
> 61 java files
>
> Scott
>
>
> > On Apr 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > "Are others seeing the slowness?"
> >
> > I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you
> describe. I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my
> project with JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first used it
> in 1999) and 8.2 was pretty quick compared to some previous releases. I
> certainly didn't think it was any slower in doing the activities you
> mention than, say, IntelliJ that I recently tried out for a week or so. If
> you thought 8.2 was already slow, perhaps it's something environmental
> related - i.e. something in your setup.
> > (a few years ago, some people were having problems with NB on networked
> file systems. Is your project on a shared/networked drive? Just stabbing
> in the dark.)
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:33 AM Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share
> my project.
> > I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem
> is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing
> happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for
> several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a
> private member of a class less than 100 lines.
> >
> > In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so
> far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than
> other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping
> the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some
> sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I
> don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my
> project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
> >
> > Are others seeing the slowness?
> >
> > Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all
> the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE,
> sometimes more.
> >
> > I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> > I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
> >
> > Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I
> can collect something useful.
> >
> > Scott
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com>.
Hi Scott,
My JSE project has 622 java files (about 130k ncsl). But I’ve used NB 8
at a previous company without any of the delays you mention - and there, I
had a JSE project with some 4,000+ Java files.
tom
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:07 AM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I’m not the only one in my organization that has issues with NB speed, and
> that was with 8.2.
> Some of the others choose to use Eclipse because these operations are so
> much faster (no perceivable delay vs seconds of delay in NB).
>
> I’m the only one that has tried NB 11 so far.
>
> I will try to see if I can make a Maven project template that will load my
> project for testing purposes It would be too much work to make a similar
> size project from scratch and small projects are less likely to exhibit the
> problem.
>
> Just curious, how many java files are in the projects you are using?
>
> I have a bit over 900 .java files in multiple sub-projects. Usually 3 or
> 4 of the subprojects would be open in NB. The three main projects have:
>
> 489 java files
> 304 java files
> 61 java files
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Are others seeing the slowness?"
>
> I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you describe.
> I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my project with
> JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first used it in 1999) and
> 8.2 was pretty quick compared to some previous releases. I certainly
> didn't think it was any slower in doing the activities you mention than,
> say, IntelliJ that I recently tried out for a week or so. If you thought
> 8.2 was already slow, perhaps it's something environmental related - i.e.
> something in your setup.
> (a few years ago, some people were having problems with NB on networked
> file systems. Is your project on a shared/networked drive? Just stabbing
> in the dark.)
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:33 AM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share
>> my project.
>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is
>> basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing
>> happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for
>> several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a
>> private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>>
>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
>> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so
>> far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than
>> other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping
>> the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some
>> sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I
>> don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my
>> project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
>>
>> Are others seeing the slowness?
>>
>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the
>> time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE,
>> sometimes more.
>>
>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>>
>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can
>> collect something useful.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com>.
I’m not the only one in my organization that has issues with NB speed, and that was with 8.2.
Some of the others choose to use Eclipse because these operations are so much faster (no perceivable delay vs seconds of delay in NB).
I’m the only one that has tried NB 11 so far.
I will try to see if I can make a Maven project template that will load my project for testing purposes It would be too much work to make a similar size project from scratch and small projects are less likely to exhibit the problem.
Just curious, how many java files are in the projects you are using?
I have a bit over 900 .java files in multiple sub-projects. Usually 3 or 4 of the subprojects would be open in NB. The three main projects have:
489 java files
304 java files
61 java files
Scott
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Are others seeing the slowness?"
>
> I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you describe. I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my project with JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first used it in 1999) and 8.2 was pretty quick compared to some previous releases. I certainly didn't think it was any slower in doing the activities you mention than, say, IntelliJ that I recently tried out for a week or so. If you thought 8.2 was already slow, perhaps it's something environmental related - i.e. something in your setup.
> (a few years ago, some people were having problems with NB on networked file systems. Is your project on a shared/networked drive? Just stabbing in the dark.)
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:33 AM Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share my project.
> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>
> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
>
> Are others seeing the slowness?
>
> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE, sometimes more.
>
> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>
> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can collect something useful.
>
> Scott
>
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com>.
I’m not the only one in my organization that has issues with NB speed, and that was with 8.2.
Some of the others choose to use Eclipse because these operations are so much faster (no perceivable delay vs seconds of delay in NB).
I’m the only one that has tried NB 11 so far.
I will try to see if I can make a Maven project template that will load my project for testing purposes It would be too much work to make a similar size project from scratch and small projects are less likely to exhibit the problem.
Just curious, how many java files are in the projects you are using?
I have a bit over 900 .java files in multiple sub-projects. Usually 3 or 4 of the subprojects would be open in NB. The three main projects have:
489 java files
304 java files
61 java files
Scott
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Are others seeing the slowness?"
>
> I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you describe. I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my project with JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first used it in 1999) and 8.2 was pretty quick compared to some previous releases. I certainly didn't think it was any slower in doing the activities you mention than, say, IntelliJ that I recently tried out for a week or so. If you thought 8.2 was already slow, perhaps it's something environmental related - i.e. something in your setup.
> (a few years ago, some people were having problems with NB on networked file systems. Is your project on a shared/networked drive? Just stabbing in the dark.)
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:33 AM Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share my project.
> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>
> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
>
> Are others seeing the slowness?
>
> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE, sometimes more.
>
> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>
> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can collect something useful.
>
> Scott
>
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com>.
"Are others seeing the slowness?"
I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you describe.
I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my project with
JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first used it in 1999) and
8.2 was pretty quick compared to some previous releases. I certainly
didn't think it was any slower in doing the activities you mention than,
say, IntelliJ that I recently tried out for a week or so. If you thought
8.2 was already slow, perhaps it's something environmental related - i.e.
something in your setup.
(a few years ago, some people were having problems with NB on networked
file systems. Is your project on a shared/networked drive? Just stabbing
in the dark.)
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:33 AM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share
> my project.
> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is
> basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing
> happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for
> several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a
> private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>
> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so
> far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than
> other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping
> the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some
> sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I
> don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my
> project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
>
> Are others seeing the slowness?
>
> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the
> time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE,
> sometimes more.
>
> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>
> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can
> collect something useful.
>
> Scott
>
>
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RE: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
I love NB's and will never switch. I've been using it since 2013... and love it. But the lagging, the locking up on save, the memory leaks, the not being able to format... really is frustrating. The other thing, I have only 1 or 2 projects in a group open so, it's not massive projects in the app doing it. The background scanning takes forever... scanning for external changes suspends not by my doing... just sits there... can't CLOSE IT...
Something I stated to John Chen in 1999 at the Sybase Techwave in Florida about Powerbuilder was, "Why are you putting out a product riddled with bugs when you can BEAT the competition and put a product as close to free of bugs?" Well, being Chinese that was an insult which I didn't know... his response on the stage with the CEO of Tibco and other tech companies was, "Are you a plant?" I worked for Sybase (former employee).
The next day, Raj Nathan, the VP stood in front of the 3000 people and vindicated me. He committed to put out PB 5.0 as free from bugs as possible. I saw John going in to a meeting and stopped him, apologized for unconsciously insulting him and he thanked me for being so bold and bringing it to his attention.
But that's what WE NEED here folks. Eat the elephant one bite at a time.
Let's do what we need before putting it out there. We know there are bugs, we know there are problems, let's fix one at a time, prioritize them as P1, P2, or P3 where P1 is a showstopper, P2 has a workaround and P3 is plainly cosmetic. I'm old school and 59 years old. Been doing this for over 35 years.
Let's BEAT the competition and put out the best product we can.
Agreed?
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Subject: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share my project.
I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
Are others seeing the slowness?
Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE, sometimes more.
I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can collect something useful.
Scott
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by John Neffenger <jo...@status6.com>.
On 4/12/19 7:26 AM, Scott Palmer wrote:
> Are others seeing the slowness?
>
> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE, sometimes more.
I saw these delays in NetBeans 10, but I'm unable to reproduce them just
now in NetBeans 11. It would take 10 to 15 seconds to display the source
code of a superclass from a library, for example, when Ctrl-clicking on
the class name with the mouse.
What I found at the time was that NetBeans was very sensitive to how you
attached the Java source files to the modular JAR files of a library.
What worked for me was to follow the instructions below under the
heading "JavaFX and NetBeans" (which should work regardless of the
library you're using):
https://openjfx.io/openjfx-docs/
In particular, I had to avoid attaching the sources to the Global
Library and instead list the JAR files separately in my project and
attach each module's sources to its own JAR file. You do that by
selecting the JAR file, clicking the Edit button, and adding the
expanded source directory in the Source text field. (I had to unzip the
"src.zip" folder of the library to get the separate module source folders.)
After that, instead of taking 15 seconds (or more), clicking through to
the library sources was instantaneous.
But as I said, I'm unable to reproduce the slowness problem on NetBeans
11, but I still get constant java.lang.AssertionError exceptions when I
attach the sources the "wrong" way.
John
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Thomas Wolf <tj...@gmail.com>.
"Are others seeing the slowness?"
I just switched from 8.2 to 11 and haven't seen the slowness you describe.
I'm running the IDE with Java 11.0.1+13LTS (on a Mac) and my project with
JDK 8. Also, I've used NB since the early days (first used it in 1999) and
8.2 was pretty quick compared to some previous releases. I certainly
didn't think it was any slower in doing the activities you mention than,
say, IntelliJ that I recently tried out for a week or so. If you thought
8.2 was already slow, perhaps it's something environmental related - i.e.
something in your setup.
(a few years ago, some people were having problems with NB on networked
file systems. Is your project on a shared/networked drive? Just stabbing
in the dark.)
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:33 AM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share
> my project.
> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is
> basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing
> happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for
> several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a
> private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>
> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so
> far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than
> other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping
> the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some
> sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I
> don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my
> project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
>
> Are others seeing the slowness?
>
> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the
> time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE,
> sometimes more.
>
> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>
> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can
> collect something useful.
>
> Scott
>
>
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Kodewerk <ki...@kodewerk.com>.
Hi all,
All projects suffer from regressions from time to time. The only way to deal with them is to gather data, which I’ve asked for, and analyze it to see what can be done to fix it. What is unhelpful are messages about this or that sucks. It’s subjective and offensive.
Kind regards,
Kirk
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 8:18 AM, peter@webparity.net wrote:
>
> I’m not using Gradle... hate it. We have problems at work with Gradle on InteliJ which also sucks.
>
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> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 7:31 AM
> To: Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com>
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>
> Well, possibly it is related to Gradle.
>
> Can you see if you can reproduce these problems without using Gradle-based Java projects.
>
> Gj
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:26 PM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t
>> share my project.
>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem
>> is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete -
>> nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t
>> appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second
>> delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>>
>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
>> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have
>> so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much
>> slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB
>> 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t
>> interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help
>> find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and
>> not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide
>> helpful reports :-(
>>
>> Are others seeing the slowness?
>>
>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all
>> the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the
>> IDE, sometimes more.
>>
>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>>
>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I
>> can collect something useful.
>>
>> Scott
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Kodewerk <ki...@kodewerk.com>.
Hi all,
All projects suffer from regressions from time to time. The only way to deal with them is to gather data, which I’ve asked for, and analyze it to see what can be done to fix it. What is unhelpful are messages about this or that sucks. It’s subjective and offensive.
Kind regards,
Kirk
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 8:18 AM, peter@webparity.net wrote:
>
> I’m not using Gradle... hate it. We have problems at work with Gradle on InteliJ which also sucks.
>
>
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> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 7:31 AM
> To: Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
>
> Well, possibly it is related to Gradle.
>
> Can you see if you can reproduce these problems without using Gradle-based Java projects.
>
> Gj
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:26 PM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t
>> share my project.
>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem
>> is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete -
>> nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t
>> appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second
>> delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>>
>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
>> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have
>> so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much
>> slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB
>> 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t
>> interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help
>> find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and
>> not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide
>> helpful reports :-(
>>
>> Are others seeing the slowness?
>>
>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all
>> the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the
>> IDE, sometimes more.
>>
>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>>
>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I
>> can collect something useful.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
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RE: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
I’m not using Gradle... hate it. We have problems at work with Gradle on InteliJ which also sucks.
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To: Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Well, possibly it is related to Gradle.
Can you see if you can reproduce these problems without using Gradle-based Java projects.
Gj
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:26 PM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t
> share my project.
> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem
> is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete -
> nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t
> appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second
> delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>
> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have
> so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much
> slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB
> 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t
> interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help
> find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and
> not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide
> helpful reports :-(
>
> Are others seeing the slowness?
>
> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all
> the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the
> IDE, sometimes more.
>
> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>
> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I
> can collect something useful.
>
> Scott
>
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RE: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
I’m not using Gradle... hate it. We have problems at work with Gradle on InteliJ which also sucks.
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To: Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com>
Cc: dev <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>; netcat <ne...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Well, possibly it is related to Gradle.
Can you see if you can reproduce these problems without using Gradle-based Java projects.
Gj
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:26 PM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t
> share my project.
> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem
> is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete -
> nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t
> appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second
> delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>
> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have
> so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much
> slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB
> 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t
> interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help
> find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and
> not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide
> helpful reports :-(
>
> Are others seeing the slowness?
>
> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all
> the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the
> IDE, sometimes more.
>
> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>
> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I
> can collect something useful.
>
> Scott
>
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
Well, possibly it is related to Gradle.
Can you see if you can reproduce these problems without using Gradle-based
Java projects.
Gj
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:26 PM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share
> my project.
> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is
> basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing
> happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for
> several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a
> private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>
> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so
> far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than
> other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping
> the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some
> sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I
> don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my
> project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
>
> Are others seeing the slowness?
>
> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the
> time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE,
> sometimes more.
>
> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>
> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can
> collect something useful.
>
> Scott
>
>
Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com>.
That explains the increase in the maximum heap. The machine has 12GB RAM. However, even when I forced a GC it was still using all of that memory. Between 1.6 GB and 1.85GB. My estimate based on a fresh start and also using NB 8.2 is that it should have been under 700MB.
I was using only gradle-based Java projects. PHP shouldn’t have been activated.
Scott
> On Apr 13, 2019, at 10:37 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> There might be a leak or two (especially in the PHP parser), though the increased memory usage is due to we removed the 1 Gb cap on the NB memory usage, allowing the JVM to decide on it's own which results ~2gb usage on systems which have 8 Gb RAM or up. I have 32 Gb and NetBeans memory usage rarely goes above 2 Gb.
>
> On 4/13/19 7:32 AM, Scott Palmer wrote:
>> NB has 2G. It sometimes gets up there and is using 1.8 of that. I suspect a leak somewhere. That is much higher usage than NB 8.2 and when I restarted the initial memory usage was over 1G less. But the stalls happen when usage is low.
>>
>> So far this appears to be a Windows issue with file system calls that are occasionally orders of magnitude slower than they should be.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>> On Apr 13, 2019, at 9:35 AM, Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Don’t suppose default java memory settings may also be coming in to play here? Maybe bumping these up some might help?
>>>
>>> Eric Bresie
>>> Ebresie@gmail.com
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
There might be a leak or two (especially in the PHP parser), though the
increased memory usage is due to we removed the 1 Gb cap on the NB
memory usage, allowing the JVM to decide on it's own which results ~2gb
usage on systems which have 8 Gb RAM or up. I have 32 Gb and NetBeans
memory usage rarely goes above 2 Gb.
On 4/13/19 7:32 AM, Scott Palmer wrote:
> NB has 2G. It sometimes gets up there and is using 1.8 of that. I suspect a leak somewhere. That is much higher usage than NB 8.2 and when I restarted the initial memory usage was over 1G less. But the stalls happen when usage is low.
>
> So far this appears to be a Windows issue with file system calls that are occasionally orders of magnitude slower than they should be.
>
> Scott
>
>> On Apr 13, 2019, at 9:35 AM, Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Don’t suppose default java memory settings may also be coming in to play here? Maybe bumping these up some might help?
>>
>> Eric Bresie
>> Ebresie@gmail.com
>>> On April 12, 2019 at 9:31:22 AM CDT, Kodewerk <ki...@kodewerk.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Scott,
>>>
>>> I’d check to see if NB is in a long GC pause first. If not, then take 2-3 thread dumps during the slow bit and post them. Your project code will not show up in the thread dump. You can use jstack to obtain the thread dumps. Just have everything set to trigger (small script) so you don’t miss the event.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Kirk
>>>
>>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 7:26 AM, Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share my project.
>>>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>>>>
>>>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
>>>>
>>>> Are others seeing the slowness?
>>>>
>>>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE, sometimes more.
>>>>
>>>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
>>>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can collect something useful.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com>.
NB has 2G. It sometimes gets up there and is using 1.8 of that. I suspect a leak somewhere. That is much higher usage than NB 8.2 and when I restarted the initial memory usage was over 1G less. But the stalls happen when usage is low.
So far this appears to be a Windows issue with file system calls that are occasionally orders of magnitude slower than they should be.
Scott
> On Apr 13, 2019, at 9:35 AM, Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Don’t suppose default java memory settings may also be coming in to play here? Maybe bumping these up some might help?
>
> Eric Bresie
> Ebresie@gmail.com
>> On April 12, 2019 at 9:31:22 AM CDT, Kodewerk <ki...@kodewerk.com> wrote:
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> I’d check to see if NB is in a long GC pause first. If not, then take 2-3 thread dumps during the slow bit and post them. Your project code will not show up in the thread dump. You can use jstack to obtain the thread dumps. Just have everything set to trigger (small script) so you don’t miss the event.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Kirk
>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 7:26 AM, Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share my project.
>>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>>>
>>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
>>>
>>> Are others seeing the slowness?
>>>
>>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE, sometimes more.
>>>
>>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
>>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>>>
>>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can collect something useful.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
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Re: Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com>.
Don’t suppose default java memory settings may also be coming in to play here? Maybe bumping these up some might help?
Eric Bresie
Ebresie@gmail.com
> On April 12, 2019 at 9:31:22 AM CDT, Kodewerk <ki...@kodewerk.com> wrote:
> Hi Scott,
>
> I’d check to see if NB is in a long GC pause first. If not, then take 2-3 thread dumps during the slow bit and post them. Your project code will not show up in the thread dump. You can use jstack to obtain the thread dumps. Just have everything set to trigger (small script) so you don’t miss the event.
>
> Kind regards,
> Kirk
>
> > On Apr 12, 2019, at 7:26 AM, Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share my project.
> > I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
> >
> > In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
> >
> > Are others seeing the slowness?
> >
> > Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE, sometimes more.
> >
> > I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> > I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
> >
> > Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can collect something useful.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Kodewerk <ki...@kodewerk.com>.
Hi Scott,
I’d check to see if NB is in a long GC pause first. If not, then take 2-3 thread dumps during the slow bit and post them. Your project code will not show up in the thread dump. You can use jstack to obtain the thread dumps. Just have everything set to trigger (small script) so you don’t miss the event.
Kind regards,
Kirk
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 7:26 AM, Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share my project.
> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>
> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
>
> Are others seeing the slowness?
>
> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE, sometimes more.
>
> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>
> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can collect something useful.
>
> Scott
>
>
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Kodewerk <ki...@kodewerk.com>.
Hi Scott,
I’d check to see if NB is in a long GC pause first. If not, then take 2-3 thread dumps during the slow bit and post them. Your project code will not show up in the thread dump. You can use jstack to obtain the thread dumps. Just have everything set to trigger (small script) so you don’t miss the event.
Kind regards,
Kirk
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 7:26 AM, Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share my project.
> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>
> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
>
> Are others seeing the slowness?
>
> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE, sometimes more.
>
> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>
> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can collect something useful.
>
> Scott
>
>
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
Well, possibly it is related to Gradle.
Can you see if you can reproduce these problems without using Gradle-based
Java projects.
Gj
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:26 PM Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share
> my project.
> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is
> basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing
> happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for
> several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a
> private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>
> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
> considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so
> far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than
> other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping
> the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some
> sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I
> don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my
> project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
>
> Are others seeing the slowness?
>
> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the
> time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE,
> sometimes more.
>
> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>
> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can
> collect something useful.
>
> Scott
>
>
Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>.
I have an ASUS laptop
Processor Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU N4200 @ 1.10GHz, 1101 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 8.00 GB
I have dual boot, Windows 10 and Ubuntu 18.04. Start up time for NetBeans is much slower on Windows 10 than Ubuntu. I do not have any programs in my start up for Windows and when I start NetBeans 11.1 vc2 (no open projects) it takes about 4 minutes. On Ubuntu it takes about 1 minute.
I realize I have a slow computer and I'm not necessarily looking to fix this issue, this is just an FYI in case you need a test case for performance issues.
BC
________________________________
From: Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>
Sent: April 15, 2019 5:09 AM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
Subject: AW: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Hey all and Tim,
please have in mind, if you open a simple PHP project or a small project (< 100 files) or mid size Project or big project in IntelliJ or Eclipse (only one project), we don’t have such a Performance issue. So it seems that they are make it different. So yes maybe it is about the not signed executable with no installer (For windows). IntelliJ and Eclipse are both JVM applications too.
Cheers
Chris
Von: Tim Boudreau
Gesendet: Samstag, 13. April 2019 22:26
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
If we're talking about Windows, there is an issue I went a few rounds with
engineers at Microsoft with over 15 years ago:
What really happens on Windows when you stat a file (say, with
File.isDirectory, checking time stamp, etc.), the calling thread is put to
sleep, the job is put on a queue, the kernel answers the question and the
thread is woken up). If I recall correctly, we were simply flooding the OS
with such calls.
At the time, we did some instrumenting of the JDK and collected the major
culprits, and where possible, eliminated those calls, or at least ensured
they weren't done repeatedly for the same file. There was nothing beyond
that that could be done from the JVM side.
-Tim
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:38 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thank you for the data!
>
> I'm going to create a JIRA Issue and attach these there.
>
> At the first sight there is something really bad on the Windows
> Filesystem side.
>
> From the 10 second completion time at lead 5.5 seconds were spent in a
> Java.ioFile.list() and java.io.File.isDirectory() call. Both have native
> implementations. Usually at this point we suspecting some AntiVirus
> software/ Windows Defender.
>
> My theory on this: As NetBeans is not (yet) installed with a signed
> windows installer, the Security software(s) are handling it more
> suspicious, checking every disk activity. As NetBeans uses really lot of
> disk io, this is bogging down its performacne on Windows (and that's why
> we are not seeing it on Linux/ Mac). As 8.2 has a signed installer, it
> might get better scores at the sec software and that results better IO.
> This is just a theory.
>
> On 4/12/19 12:41 PM, Scott Palmer wrote:
> > Here is snapshot data for two events. One auto-complete (ctrl-Space)
> > taking 10s, the other getting a hint (alt-Enter) taking 7s. Yes it
> > does look like something is blocked. I’ve copied you and Jan directly
> > in case the list strips attachements.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 12, 2019, at 3:34 PM, Kodewerk <kirk@kodewerk.com
> >> <ma...@kodewerk.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Scott,
> >>
> >> Please export Snapshot data. As I mentioned before, this is likely a
> >> stalled thread and as such an execution profiler is likely to not
> >> report it. The most useful view IME are thread dumps at about 1
> >> second intervals.
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Kirk
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
> >>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I just experienced a 10s delay before the auto-complete popup
> >>> appeared (did see the “Please wait…” though). That was the second
> >>> press of auto-complete at the same spot. The first attempt took 8
> >>> seconds. I triggered the profiling for each, but I suspect the
> >>> first attempt may be tainted because the Gradle project was stuck
> >>> loading - there was a dependency that it couldn’t get. I commented
> >>> out that dependency (didn’t need it) so project was loaded fully and
> >>> tried again. This is with a very tiny toy project. I single-class
> >>> microbenchmark using the JMH gradle plugin.
> >>>
> >>> There are options to export “Sanpshot Data”, “Forward Calls”,
> >>> “Hotspots” … which of these do you want?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Scott
> >>>
> >>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:06 PM, Jan Lahoda <lahoda@gmail.com
> >>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Scott,
> >>>>
> >>>> In this case, it might be useful/helpful if we had the self
> >>>> profiler snapshots. Possibly for one of the features, e.g. code
> >>>> completion:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow<
> http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow>
> >>>>
> >>>> (Refactoring/findusages is currently much faster with nb-javac than
> >>>> without it, but the difference should be much smaller for code
> >>>> completion, etc.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Jan
> >>>>
> >>>> 12. dubna 2019 16:26:29 SELČ, Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
> >>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> napsal:
> >>>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t
> >>>> share my project.
> >>>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the
> >>>> problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke
> >>>> auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename
> >>>> - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages -
> >>>> extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less
> >>>> than 100 lines.
> >>>>
> >>>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not
> >>>> good considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2.
> >>>> I have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it
> >>>> is much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the
> >>>> slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch
> >>>> IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I
> >>>> would like to help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the
> >>>> bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes
> >>>> it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
> >>>>
> >>>> Are others seeing the slowness?
> >>>>
> >>>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use
> >>>> all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response
> >>>> from the IDE, sometimes more.
> >>>>
> >>>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> >>>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe
> >>>> I can collect something useful.
> >>>>
> >>>> Scott
> >>>> To unsubscribe,
> >>>> e-mail:dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> >>>> <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> >>>> For additional commands,
> >>>> e-mail:dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> >>>> <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists<
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Odesláno z mého telefonu s Androidem pomocí pošty K-9 Mail. Omluvte
> >>>> prosím moji stručnost.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >> <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> >> For additional commands,
> >> e-mail:dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> >> <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> >>
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> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >
>
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AW: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.
Hey all and Tim,
please have in mind, if you open a simple PHP project or a small project (< 100 files) or mid size Project or big project in IntelliJ or Eclipse (only one project), we don’t have such a Performance issue. So it seems that they are make it different. So yes maybe it is about the not signed executable with no installer (For windows). IntelliJ and Eclipse are both JVM applications too.
Cheers
Chris
Von: Tim Boudreau
Gesendet: Samstag, 13. April 2019 22:26
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
If we're talking about Windows, there is an issue I went a few rounds with
engineers at Microsoft with over 15 years ago:
What really happens on Windows when you stat a file (say, with
File.isDirectory, checking time stamp, etc.), the calling thread is put to
sleep, the job is put on a queue, the kernel answers the question and the
thread is woken up). If I recall correctly, we were simply flooding the OS
with such calls.
At the time, we did some instrumenting of the JDK and collected the major
culprits, and where possible, eliminated those calls, or at least ensured
they weren't done repeatedly for the same file. There was nothing beyond
that that could be done from the JVM side.
-Tim
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:38 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thank you for the data!
>
> I'm going to create a JIRA Issue and attach these there.
>
> At the first sight there is something really bad on the Windows
> Filesystem side.
>
> From the 10 second completion time at lead 5.5 seconds were spent in a
> Java.ioFile.list() and java.io.File.isDirectory() call. Both have native
> implementations. Usually at this point we suspecting some AntiVirus
> software/ Windows Defender.
>
> My theory on this: As NetBeans is not (yet) installed with a signed
> windows installer, the Security software(s) are handling it more
> suspicious, checking every disk activity. As NetBeans uses really lot of
> disk io, this is bogging down its performacne on Windows (and that's why
> we are not seeing it on Linux/ Mac). As 8.2 has a signed installer, it
> might get better scores at the sec software and that results better IO.
> This is just a theory.
>
> On 4/12/19 12:41 PM, Scott Palmer wrote:
> > Here is snapshot data for two events. One auto-complete (ctrl-Space)
> > taking 10s, the other getting a hint (alt-Enter) taking 7s. Yes it
> > does look like something is blocked. I’ve copied you and Jan directly
> > in case the list strips attachements.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 12, 2019, at 3:34 PM, Kodewerk <kirk@kodewerk.com
> >> <ma...@kodewerk.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Scott,
> >>
> >> Please export Snapshot data. As I mentioned before, this is likely a
> >> stalled thread and as such an execution profiler is likely to not
> >> report it. The most useful view IME are thread dumps at about 1
> >> second intervals.
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Kirk
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
> >>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I just experienced a 10s delay before the auto-complete popup
> >>> appeared (did see the “Please wait…” though). That was the second
> >>> press of auto-complete at the same spot. The first attempt took 8
> >>> seconds. I triggered the profiling for each, but I suspect the
> >>> first attempt may be tainted because the Gradle project was stuck
> >>> loading - there was a dependency that it couldn’t get. I commented
> >>> out that dependency (didn’t need it) so project was loaded fully and
> >>> tried again. This is with a very tiny toy project. I single-class
> >>> microbenchmark using the JMH gradle plugin.
> >>>
> >>> There are options to export “Sanpshot Data”, “Forward Calls”,
> >>> “Hotspots” … which of these do you want?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Scott
> >>>
> >>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:06 PM, Jan Lahoda <lahoda@gmail.com
> >>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Scott,
> >>>>
> >>>> In this case, it might be useful/helpful if we had the self
> >>>> profiler snapshots. Possibly for one of the features, e.g. code
> >>>> completion:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow<
> http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow>
> >>>>
> >>>> (Refactoring/findusages is currently much faster with nb-javac than
> >>>> without it, but the difference should be much smaller for code
> >>>> completion, etc.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Jan
> >>>>
> >>>> 12. dubna 2019 16:26:29 SELČ, Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
> >>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> napsal:
> >>>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t
> >>>> share my project.
> >>>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the
> >>>> problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke
> >>>> auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename
> >>>> - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages -
> >>>> extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less
> >>>> than 100 lines.
> >>>>
> >>>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not
> >>>> good considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2.
> >>>> I have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it
> >>>> is much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the
> >>>> slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch
> >>>> IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I
> >>>> would like to help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the
> >>>> bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes
> >>>> it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
> >>>>
> >>>> Are others seeing the slowness?
> >>>>
> >>>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use
> >>>> all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response
> >>>> from the IDE, sometimes more.
> >>>>
> >>>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> >>>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe
> >>>> I can collect something useful.
> >>>>
> >>>> Scott
> >>>> To unsubscribe,
> >>>> e-mail:dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> >>>> <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> >>>> For additional commands,
> >>>> e-mail:dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> >>>> <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists<
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Odesláno z mého telefonu s Androidem pomocí pošty K-9 Mail. Omluvte
> >>>> prosím moji stručnost.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >> <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> >> For additional commands,
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> >> <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> >>
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> >
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Tim Boudreau <ni...@gmail.com>.
If we're talking about Windows, there is an issue I went a few rounds with
engineers at Microsoft with over 15 years ago:
What really happens on Windows when you stat a file (say, with
File.isDirectory, checking time stamp, etc.), the calling thread is put to
sleep, the job is put on a queue, the kernel answers the question and the
thread is woken up). If I recall correctly, we were simply flooding the OS
with such calls.
At the time, we did some instrumenting of the JDK and collected the major
culprits, and where possible, eliminated those calls, or at least ensured
they weren't done repeatedly for the same file. There was nothing beyond
that that could be done from the JVM side.
-Tim
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:38 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thank you for the data!
>
> I'm going to create a JIRA Issue and attach these there.
>
> At the first sight there is something really bad on the Windows
> Filesystem side.
>
> From the 10 second completion time at lead 5.5 seconds were spent in a
> Java.ioFile.list() and java.io.File.isDirectory() call. Both have native
> implementations. Usually at this point we suspecting some AntiVirus
> software/ Windows Defender.
>
> My theory on this: As NetBeans is not (yet) installed with a signed
> windows installer, the Security software(s) are handling it more
> suspicious, checking every disk activity. As NetBeans uses really lot of
> disk io, this is bogging down its performacne on Windows (and that's why
> we are not seeing it on Linux/ Mac). As 8.2 has a signed installer, it
> might get better scores at the sec software and that results better IO.
> This is just a theory.
>
> On 4/12/19 12:41 PM, Scott Palmer wrote:
> > Here is snapshot data for two events. One auto-complete (ctrl-Space)
> > taking 10s, the other getting a hint (alt-Enter) taking 7s. Yes it
> > does look like something is blocked. I’ve copied you and Jan directly
> > in case the list strips attachements.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 12, 2019, at 3:34 PM, Kodewerk <kirk@kodewerk.com
> >> <ma...@kodewerk.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Scott,
> >>
> >> Please export Snapshot data. As I mentioned before, this is likely a
> >> stalled thread and as such an execution profiler is likely to not
> >> report it. The most useful view IME are thread dumps at about 1
> >> second intervals.
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Kirk
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
> >>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I just experienced a 10s delay before the auto-complete popup
> >>> appeared (did see the “Please wait…” though). That was the second
> >>> press of auto-complete at the same spot. The first attempt took 8
> >>> seconds. I triggered the profiling for each, but I suspect the
> >>> first attempt may be tainted because the Gradle project was stuck
> >>> loading - there was a dependency that it couldn’t get. I commented
> >>> out that dependency (didn’t need it) so project was loaded fully and
> >>> tried again. This is with a very tiny toy project. I single-class
> >>> microbenchmark using the JMH gradle plugin.
> >>>
> >>> There are options to export “Sanpshot Data”, “Forward Calls”,
> >>> “Hotspots” … which of these do you want?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Scott
> >>>
> >>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:06 PM, Jan Lahoda <lahoda@gmail.com
> >>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Scott,
> >>>>
> >>>> In this case, it might be useful/helpful if we had the self
> >>>> profiler snapshots. Possibly for one of the features, e.g. code
> >>>> completion:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow<
> http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow>
> >>>>
> >>>> (Refactoring/findusages is currently much faster with nb-javac than
> >>>> without it, but the difference should be much smaller for code
> >>>> completion, etc.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Jan
> >>>>
> >>>> 12. dubna 2019 16:26:29 SELČ, Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
> >>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> napsal:
> >>>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t
> >>>> share my project.
> >>>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the
> >>>> problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke
> >>>> auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename
> >>>> - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages -
> >>>> extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less
> >>>> than 100 lines.
> >>>>
> >>>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not
> >>>> good considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2.
> >>>> I have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it
> >>>> is much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the
> >>>> slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch
> >>>> IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I
> >>>> would like to help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the
> >>>> bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes
> >>>> it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
> >>>>
> >>>> Are others seeing the slowness?
> >>>>
> >>>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use
> >>>> all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response
> >>>> from the IDE, sometimes more.
> >>>>
> >>>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> >>>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe
> >>>> I can collect something useful.
> >>>>
> >>>> Scott
> >>>> To unsubscribe,
> >>>> e-mail:dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
Let's continue on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2409 !
On 4/12/19 3:56 PM, Enrico Scantamburlo wrote:
> I have the same problem. Those calls are really slow because it is Windows.
> The slowest of all is File. getCanonicalPath/File.getCanonicalFile
> They really freeze the ui for some seconds
>
> Il ven 12 apr 2019, 23:38 Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com> ha
> scritto:
>
>> Thank you for the data!
>>
>> I'm going to create a JIRA Issue and attach these there.
>>
>> At the first sight there is something really bad on the Windows
>> Filesystem side.
>>
>> From the 10 second completion time at lead 5.5 seconds were spent in a
>> Java.ioFile.list() and java.io.File.isDirectory() call. Both have native
>> implementations. Usually at this point we suspecting some AntiVirus
>> software/ Windows Defender.
>>
>> My theory on this: As NetBeans is not (yet) installed with a signed
>> windows installer, the Security software(s) are handling it more
>> suspicious, checking every disk activity. As NetBeans uses really lot of
>> disk io, this is bogging down its performacne on Windows (and that's why
>> we are not seeing it on Linux/ Mac). As 8.2 has a signed installer, it
>> might get better scores at the sec software and that results better IO.
>> This is just a theory.
>>
>> On 4/12/19 12:41 PM, Scott Palmer wrote:
>>> Here is snapshot data for two events. One auto-complete (ctrl-Space)
>>> taking 10s, the other getting a hint (alt-Enter) taking 7s. Yes it
>>> does look like something is blocked. I’ve copied you and Jan directly
>>> in case the list strips attachements.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 3:34 PM, Kodewerk <kirk@kodewerk.com
>>>> <ma...@kodewerk.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>
>>>> Please export Snapshot data. As I mentioned before, this is likely a
>>>> stalled thread and as such an execution profiler is likely to not
>>>> report it. The most useful view IME are thread dumps at about 1
>>>> second intervals.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Kirk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I just experienced a 10s delay before the auto-complete popup
>>>>> appeared (did see the “Please wait…” though). That was the second
>>>>> press of auto-complete at the same spot. The first attempt took 8
>>>>> seconds. I triggered the profiling for each, but I suspect the
>>>>> first attempt may be tainted because the Gradle project was stuck
>>>>> loading - there was a dependency that it couldn’t get. I commented
>>>>> out that dependency (didn’t need it) so project was loaded fully and
>>>>> tried again. This is with a very tiny toy project. I single-class
>>>>> microbenchmark using the JMH gradle plugin.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are options to export “Sanpshot Data”, “Forward Calls”,
>>>>> “Hotspots” … which of these do you want?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:06 PM, Jan Lahoda <lahoda@gmail.com
>>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In this case, it might be useful/helpful if we had the self
>>>>>> profiler snapshots. Possibly for one of the features, e.g. code
>>>>>> completion:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow<
>> http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow>
>>>>>> (Refactoring/findusages is currently much faster with nb-javac than
>>>>>> without it, but the difference should be much smaller for code
>>>>>> completion, etc.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 12. dubna 2019 16:26:29 SELČ, Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
>>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> napsal:
>>>>>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t
>>>>>> share my project.
>>>>>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the
>>>>>> problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke
>>>>>> auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename
>>>>>> - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages -
>>>>>> extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less
>>>>>> than 100 lines.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not
>>>>>> good considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2.
>>>>>> I have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it
>>>>>> is much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the
>>>>>> slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch
>>>>>> IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I
>>>>>> would like to help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the
>>>>>> bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes
>>>>>> it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are others seeing the slowness?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use
>>>>>> all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response
>>>>>> from the IDE, sometimes more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
>>>>>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe
>>>>>> I can collect something useful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>> To unsubscribe,
>>>>>> e-mail:dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>> For additional commands,
>>>>>> e-mail:dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>> <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists<
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> prosím moji stručnost.
>>>>
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Enrico Scantamburlo <sc...@gmail.com>.
I have the same problem. Those calls are really slow because it is Windows.
The slowest of all is File. getCanonicalPath/File.getCanonicalFile
They really freeze the ui for some seconds
Il ven 12 apr 2019, 23:38 Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com> ha
scritto:
> Thank you for the data!
>
> I'm going to create a JIRA Issue and attach these there.
>
> At the first sight there is something really bad on the Windows
> Filesystem side.
>
> From the 10 second completion time at lead 5.5 seconds were spent in a
> Java.ioFile.list() and java.io.File.isDirectory() call. Both have native
> implementations. Usually at this point we suspecting some AntiVirus
> software/ Windows Defender.
>
> My theory on this: As NetBeans is not (yet) installed with a signed
> windows installer, the Security software(s) are handling it more
> suspicious, checking every disk activity. As NetBeans uses really lot of
> disk io, this is bogging down its performacne on Windows (and that's why
> we are not seeing it on Linux/ Mac). As 8.2 has a signed installer, it
> might get better scores at the sec software and that results better IO.
> This is just a theory.
>
> On 4/12/19 12:41 PM, Scott Palmer wrote:
> > Here is snapshot data for two events. One auto-complete (ctrl-Space)
> > taking 10s, the other getting a hint (alt-Enter) taking 7s. Yes it
> > does look like something is blocked. I’ve copied you and Jan directly
> > in case the list strips attachements.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 12, 2019, at 3:34 PM, Kodewerk <kirk@kodewerk.com
> >> <ma...@kodewerk.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Scott,
> >>
> >> Please export Snapshot data. As I mentioned before, this is likely a
> >> stalled thread and as such an execution profiler is likely to not
> >> report it. The most useful view IME are thread dumps at about 1
> >> second intervals.
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Kirk
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
> >>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I just experienced a 10s delay before the auto-complete popup
> >>> appeared (did see the “Please wait…” though). That was the second
> >>> press of auto-complete at the same spot. The first attempt took 8
> >>> seconds. I triggered the profiling for each, but I suspect the
> >>> first attempt may be tainted because the Gradle project was stuck
> >>> loading - there was a dependency that it couldn’t get. I commented
> >>> out that dependency (didn’t need it) so project was loaded fully and
> >>> tried again. This is with a very tiny toy project. I single-class
> >>> microbenchmark using the JMH gradle plugin.
> >>>
> >>> There are options to export “Sanpshot Data”, “Forward Calls”,
> >>> “Hotspots” … which of these do you want?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Scott
> >>>
> >>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:06 PM, Jan Lahoda <lahoda@gmail.com
> >>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Scott,
> >>>>
> >>>> In this case, it might be useful/helpful if we had the self
> >>>> profiler snapshots. Possibly for one of the features, e.g. code
> >>>> completion:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow<
> http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow>
> >>>>
> >>>> (Refactoring/findusages is currently much faster with nb-javac than
> >>>> without it, but the difference should be much smaller for code
> >>>> completion, etc.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Jan
> >>>>
> >>>> 12. dubna 2019 16:26:29 SELČ, Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
> >>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> napsal:
> >>>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t
> >>>> share my project.
> >>>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the
> >>>> problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke
> >>>> auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename
> >>>> - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages -
> >>>> extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less
> >>>> than 100 lines.
> >>>>
> >>>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not
> >>>> good considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2.
> >>>> I have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it
> >>>> is much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the
> >>>> slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch
> >>>> IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I
> >>>> would like to help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the
> >>>> bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes
> >>>> it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
> >>>>
> >>>> Are others seeing the slowness?
> >>>>
> >>>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use
> >>>> all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response
> >>>> from the IDE, sometimes more.
> >>>>
> >>>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> >>>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe
> >>>> I can collect something useful.
> >>>>
> >>>> Scott
> >>>> To unsubscribe,
> >>>> e-mail:dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> >>>> <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> >>>> For additional commands,
> >>>> e-mail:dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> >>>> <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists<
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Odesláno z mého telefonu s Androidem pomocí pošty K-9 Mail. Omluvte
> >>>> prosím moji stručnost.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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> >
>
Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
Thank you for the data!
I'm going to create a JIRA Issue and attach these there.
At the first sight there is something really bad on the Windows
Filesystem side.
From the 10 second completion time at lead 5.5 seconds were spent in a
Java.ioFile.list() and java.io.File.isDirectory() call. Both have native
implementations. Usually at this point we suspecting some AntiVirus
software/ Windows Defender.
My theory on this: As NetBeans is not (yet) installed with a signed
windows installer, the Security software(s) are handling it more
suspicious, checking every disk activity. As NetBeans uses really lot of
disk io, this is bogging down its performacne on Windows (and that's why
we are not seeing it on Linux/ Mac). As 8.2 has a signed installer, it
might get better scores at the sec software and that results better IO.
This is just a theory.
On 4/12/19 12:41 PM, Scott Palmer wrote:
> Here is snapshot data for two events. One auto-complete (ctrl-Space)
> taking 10s, the other getting a hint (alt-Enter) taking 7s. Yes it
> does look like something is blocked. I’ve copied you and Jan directly
> in case the list strips attachements.
>
>
>
>
>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 3:34 PM, Kodewerk <kirk@kodewerk.com
>> <ma...@kodewerk.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> Please export Snapshot data. As I mentioned before, this is likely a
>> stalled thread and as such an execution profiler is likely to not
>> report it. The most useful view IME are thread dumps at about 1
>> second intervals.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Kirk
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I just experienced a 10s delay before the auto-complete popup
>>> appeared (did see the “Please wait…” though). That was the second
>>> press of auto-complete at the same spot. The first attempt took 8
>>> seconds. I triggered the profiling for each, but I suspect the
>>> first attempt may be tainted because the Gradle project was stuck
>>> loading - there was a dependency that it couldn’t get. I commented
>>> out that dependency (didn’t need it) so project was loaded fully and
>>> tried again. This is with a very tiny toy project. I single-class
>>> microbenchmark using the JMH gradle plugin.
>>>
>>> There are options to export “Sanpshot Data”, “Forward Calls”,
>>> “Hotspots” … which of these do you want?
>>>
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:06 PM, Jan Lahoda <lahoda@gmail.com
>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>
>>>> In this case, it might be useful/helpful if we had the self
>>>> profiler snapshots. Possibly for one of the features, e.g. code
>>>> completion:
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow<http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow>
>>>>
>>>> (Refactoring/findusages is currently much faster with nb-javac than
>>>> without it, but the difference should be much smaller for code
>>>> completion, etc.)
>>>>
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>> 12. dubna 2019 16:26:29 SELČ, Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com
>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> napsal:
>>>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t
>>>> share my project.
>>>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the
>>>> problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke
>>>> auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename
>>>> - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages -
>>>> extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less
>>>> than 100 lines.
>>>>
>>>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not
>>>> good considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2.
>>>> I have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it
>>>> is much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the
>>>> slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch
>>>> IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I
>>>> would like to help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the
>>>> bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes
>>>> it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
>>>>
>>>> Are others seeing the slowness?
>>>>
>>>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use
>>>> all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response
>>>> from the IDE, sometimes more.
>>>>
>>>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
>>>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe
>>>> I can collect something useful.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>> To unsubscribe,
>>>> e-mail:dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>> <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>> For additional commands,
>>>> e-mail:dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>> <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>
>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Odesláno z mého telefonu s Androidem pomocí pošty K-9 Mail. Omluvte
>>>> prosím moji stručnost.
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com>.
Here is snapshot data for two events. One auto-complete (ctrl-Space) taking 10s, the other getting a hint (alt-Enter) taking 7s. Yes it does look like something is blocked. I’ve copied you and Jan directly in case the list strips attachements.
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 3:34 PM, Kodewerk <ki...@kodewerk.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> Please export Snapshot data. As I mentioned before, this is likely a stalled thread and as such an execution profiler is likely to not report it. The most useful view IME are thread dumps at about 1 second intervals.
>
> Kind regards,
> Kirk
>
>
>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I just experienced a 10s delay before the auto-complete popup appeared (did see the “Please wait…” though). That was the second press of auto-complete at the same spot. The first attempt took 8 seconds. I triggered the profiling for each, but I suspect the first attempt may be tainted because the Gradle project was stuck loading - there was a dependency that it couldn’t get. I commented out that dependency (didn’t need it) so project was loaded fully and tried again. This is with a very tiny toy project. I single-class microbenchmark using the JMH gradle plugin.
>>
>> There are options to export “Sanpshot Data”, “Forward Calls”, “Hotspots” … which of these do you want?
>>
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:06 PM, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Scott,
>>>
>>> In this case, it might be useful/helpful if we had the self profiler snapshots. Possibly for one of the features, e.g. code completion:
>>>
>>> http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow <http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow> <http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow <http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow>>
>>>
>>> (Refactoring/findusages is currently much faster with nb-javac than without it, but the difference should be much smaller for code completion, etc.)
>>>
>>> Jan
>>>
>>> 12. dubna 2019 16:26:29 SELČ, Scott Palmer <swpalmer@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> napsal:
>>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share my project.
>>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>>>
>>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
>>>
>>> Are others seeing the slowness?
>>>
>>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE, sometimes more.
>>>
>>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
>>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>>>
>>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can collect something useful.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.incubator.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.incubator.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>>>
>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists><https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Odesláno z mého telefonu s Androidem pomocí pošty K-9 Mail. Omluvte prosím moji stručnost.
>>
>
>
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2409?focusedCommentId=16822009&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16822009
On 4/12/19 12:54 PM, Scott Palmer wrote:
> Another strange thing. If I type:
>
> someIdentifier.
>
> I get an automatic auto-complete popup after typing the ‘.’, populated with all the methods or members I could finish with. But as soon as I type one letter, eg .’i’ (to select "isSomething()"), then I get a “Please wait…” and a few seconds of delay! The entire list of possibilities was already presented to me, narrowing it down after I hit another letter should be instant. Something is going wrong.
>
>
> Attached Snapshot data…
>
>
>
> Scott
>
>
>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 3:34 PM, Kodewerk <ki...@kodewerk.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> Please export Snapshot data. As I mentioned before, this is likely a stalled thread and as such an execution profiler is likely to not report it. The most useful view IME are thread dumps at about 1 second intervals.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Kirk
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I just experienced a 10s delay before the auto-complete popup appeared (did see the “Please wait…” though). That was the second press of auto-complete at the same spot. The first attempt took 8 seconds. I triggered the profiling for each, but I suspect the first attempt may be tainted because the Gradle project was stuck loading - there was a dependency that it couldn’t get. I commented out that dependency (didn’t need it) so project was loaded fully and tried again. This is with a very tiny toy project. I single-class microbenchmark using the JMH gradle plugin.
>>>
>>> There are options to export “Sanpshot Data”, “Forward Calls”, “Hotspots” … which of these do you want?
>>>
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:06 PM, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>
>>>> In this case, it might be useful/helpful if we had the self profiler snapshots. Possibly for one of the features, e.g. code completion:
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow <http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow>
>>>>
>>>> (Refactoring/findusages is currently much faster with nb-javac than without it, but the difference should be much smaller for code completion, etc.)
>>>>
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>> 12. dubna 2019 16:26:29 SELČ, Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> napsal:
>>>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share my project.
>>>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>>>>
>>>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
>>>>
>>>> Are others seeing the slowness?
>>>>
>>>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE, sometimes more.
>>>>
>>>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
>>>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can collect something useful.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com>.
Another strange thing. If I type:
someIdentifier.
I get an automatic auto-complete popup after typing the ‘.’, populated with all the methods or members I could finish with. But as soon as I type one letter, eg .’i’ (to select "isSomething()"), then I get a “Please wait…” and a few seconds of delay! The entire list of possibilities was already presented to me, narrowing it down after I hit another letter should be instant. Something is going wrong.
Attached Snapshot data…
Scott
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 3:34 PM, Kodewerk <ki...@kodewerk.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> Please export Snapshot data. As I mentioned before, this is likely a stalled thread and as such an execution profiler is likely to not report it. The most useful view IME are thread dumps at about 1 second intervals.
>
> Kind regards,
> Kirk
>
>
>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I just experienced a 10s delay before the auto-complete popup appeared (did see the “Please wait…” though). That was the second press of auto-complete at the same spot. The first attempt took 8 seconds. I triggered the profiling for each, but I suspect the first attempt may be tainted because the Gradle project was stuck loading - there was a dependency that it couldn’t get. I commented out that dependency (didn’t need it) so project was loaded fully and tried again. This is with a very tiny toy project. I single-class microbenchmark using the JMH gradle plugin.
>>
>> There are options to export “Sanpshot Data”, “Forward Calls”, “Hotspots” … which of these do you want?
>>
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:06 PM, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Scott,
>>>
>>> In this case, it might be useful/helpful if we had the self profiler snapshots. Possibly for one of the features, e.g. code completion:
>>>
>>> http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow <http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow>
>>>
>>> (Refactoring/findusages is currently much faster with nb-javac than without it, but the difference should be much smaller for code completion, etc.)
>>>
>>> Jan
>>>
>>> 12. dubna 2019 16:26:29 SELČ, Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> napsal:
>>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share my project.
>>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>>>
>>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
>>>
>>> Are others seeing the slowness?
>>>
>>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE, sometimes more.
>>>
>>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
>>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>>>
>>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can collect something useful.
>>>
>>> Scott
Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Kodewerk <ki...@kodewerk.com>.
Hi Scott,
Please export Snapshot data. As I mentioned before, this is likely a stalled thread and as such an execution profiler is likely to not report it. The most useful view IME are thread dumps at about 1 second intervals.
Kind regards,
Kirk
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:23 PM, Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I just experienced a 10s delay before the auto-complete popup appeared (did see the “Please wait…” though). That was the second press of auto-complete at the same spot. The first attempt took 8 seconds. I triggered the profiling for each, but I suspect the first attempt may be tainted because the Gradle project was stuck loading - there was a dependency that it couldn’t get. I commented out that dependency (didn’t need it) so project was loaded fully and tried again. This is with a very tiny toy project. I single-class microbenchmark using the JMH gradle plugin.
>
> There are options to export “Sanpshot Data”, “Forward Calls”, “Hotspots” … which of these do you want?
>
>
> Scott
>
>> On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:06 PM, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> In this case, it might be useful/helpful if we had the self profiler snapshots. Possibly for one of the features, e.g. code completion:
>>
>> http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow <http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow>
>>
>> (Refactoring/findusages is currently much faster with nb-javac than without it, but the difference should be much smaller for code completion, etc.)
>>
>> Jan
>>
>> 12. dubna 2019 16:26:29 SELČ, Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> napsal:
>> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share my project.
>> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>>
>> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
>>
>> Are others seeing the slowness?
>>
>> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE, sometimes more.
>>
>> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
>> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>>
>> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can collect something useful.
>>
>> Scott
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com>.
I just experienced a 10s delay before the auto-complete popup appeared (did see the “Please wait…” though). That was the second press of auto-complete at the same spot. The first attempt took 8 seconds. I triggered the profiling for each, but I suspect the first attempt may be tainted because the Gradle project was stuck loading - there was a dependency that it couldn’t get. I commented out that dependency (didn’t need it) so project was loaded fully and tried again. This is with a very tiny toy project. I single-class microbenchmark using the JMH gradle plugin.
There are options to export “Sanpshot Data”, “Forward Calls”, “Hotspots” … which of these do you want?
Scott
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 12:06 PM, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> In this case, it might be useful/helpful if we had the self profiler snapshots. Possibly for one of the features, e.g. code completion:
>
> http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow <http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow>
>
> (Refactoring/findusages is currently much faster with nb-javac than without it, but the difference should be much smaller for code completion, etc.)
>
> Jan
>
> 12. dubna 2019 16:26:29 SELČ, Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> napsal:
> What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share my project.
> I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>
> In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
>
> Are others seeing the slowness?
>
> Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE, sometimes more.
>
> I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
> I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>
> Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can collect something useful.
>
> Scott
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Re: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com>.
Hi Scott,
In this case, it might be useful/helpful if we had the self profiler snapshots. Possibly for one of the features, e.g. code completion:
http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqProfileMeNow
(Refactoring/findusages is currently much faster with nb-javac than without it, but the difference should be much smaller for code completion, etc.)
Jan
12. dubna 2019 16:26:29 SELČ, Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com> napsal:
>What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t
>share my project.
>I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem
>is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete -
>nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t
>appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second
>delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
>
>In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good
>considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have
>so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much
>slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB
>11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t
>interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help
>find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and
>not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide
>helpful reports :-(
>
>Are others seeing the slowness?
>
>Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all
>the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the
>IDE, sometimes more.
>
>I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
>I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
>
>Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I
>can collect something useful.
>
>Scott
>
>
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RE: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
I love NB's and will never switch. I've been using it since 2013... and love it. But the lagging, the locking up on save, the memory leaks, the not being able to format... really is frustrating. The other thing, I have only 1 or 2 projects in a group open so, it's not massive projects in the app doing it. The background scanning takes forever... scanning for external changes suspends not by my doing... just sits there... can't CLOSE IT...
Something I stated to John Chen in 1999 at the Sybase Techwave in Florida about Powerbuilder was, "Why are you putting out a product riddled with bugs when you can BEAT the competition and put a product as close to free of bugs?" Well, being Chinese that was an insult which I didn't know... his response on the stage with the CEO of Tibco and other tech companies was, "Are you a plant?" I worked for Sybase (former employee).
The next day, Raj Nathan, the VP stood in front of the 3000 people and vindicated me. He committed to put out PB 5.0 as free from bugs as possible. I saw John going in to a meeting and stopped him, apologized for unconsciously insulting him and he thanked me for being so bold and bringing it to his attention.
But that's what WE NEED here folks. Eat the elephant one bite at a time.
Let's do what we need before putting it out there. We know there are bugs, we know there are problems, let's fix one at a time, prioritize them as P1, P2, or P3 where P1 is a showstopper, P2 has a workaround and P3 is plainly cosmetic. I'm old school and 59 years old. Been doing this for over 35 years.
Let's BEAT the competition and put out the best product we can.
Agreed?
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Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 7:26 AM
To: dev <de...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
Cc: netcat <ne...@netbeans.apache.org>; Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
Subject: Very Slow Operations with NB 11
What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share my project.
I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
Are others seeing the slowness?
Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE, sometimes more.
I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can collect something useful.
Scott
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Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com>.
What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share my project.
I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
Are others seeing the slowness?
Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE, sometimes more.
I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can collect something useful.
Scott
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RE: testing done?
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
Yes sir. Thank you.
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Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 7:21 AM
To: peter@webparity.net
Cc: Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>; netcat <ne...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: testing done?
You're going to need to explain your environment (which operating system, which JDK, etc), also steps to reproduce, none of this seems to have anything to do with this thread. Please file issues here, one issue per problem, with a clear description of your environment and a clear step by step instruction of how to reproduce the problem:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS
Thanks,
Gj
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:17 PM <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
> Also, when I close Netbeans, the warning for "EXIT IDE" comes up once,
> immediately, then 1 min later, it appears again when the program is
> already closed but "not" out of the processes in Task Manager.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Again, this happens on all versions: 10 and 11
>
> Thank you
>
>
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> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 7:12 AM
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> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
> Just go to netbeans.apache.org, install the latest version, Apache
> NetBeans 11.0, see if the problem can be reproduced, if so, create an
> issue, provide step by step instructions for how to reproduce this exactly.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:09 PM <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
>
> > Also, when I click FORMAT, nothing happens or the warning says,
> > “This is taking longer than usual” and never FORMATS. I have to cancel.
> >
> >
> >
> > I don’t understand what’s wrong. My memory in netbeans.conf is set
> > to
> > 1024 but that’s still not enough.
> >
> >
> >
> > This has been inherent with NB as it’s a memory hog. When I kill the
> > process, it’s taking up nearly ½ of my CPU and memory. Why?
> >
> >
> >
> > This is not ready for primetime unless I don’t have the most recent
> > version, or the updater is not working on two computers.
> >
> >
> >
> > The version is incubator-380-20181217.
> >
> >
> >
> > Is that the problem?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Peter Borreggine*
> >
> > *Owner and Developer*
> >
> > *Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> > Design/SEO*
> >
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> >
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> >
> > *WA State License: 603-501-609*
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> > and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are
> > not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy
> > all copies of the original message and its attachments. Any
> > unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:57 PM
> > *To:* peter@webparity.net
> > *Cc:* Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>;
> > netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> > *Subject:* Re: testing done?
> >
> >
> >
> > Are you aware you can exclude complete folders from being scanned by
> > NetBeans, which could speed parsing up a lot? See the Files section
> > in the Miscellaneous tab of the Options window.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 20:36, <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
> >
> > Geertjan,
> >
> >
> >
> > First we have a number of components and services written by our
> > team in India. What’s huge is that number. There are over 15,000
> > objects saved in git not including the node_modules folder.
> >
> >
> >
> > Some of these files are over 2500 lines, some as little as 50.
> >
> >
> >
> > Just to let you know, when I run compodoc (an npm library for
> > documentation of Angular projects) it crashes due to memory problems
> > but this is a known issue with Compodoc and Vincent the creator of
> > the library is addressing this.
> >
> >
> >
> > There are over 200 folders in the hierarchal structure…
> >
> >
> >
> > They are all .ts, .spec.ts, .scss, .html in most of the folders.
> >
> >
> >
> > That’s what I mean by huge.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hope this helps
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Peter Borreggine
> >
> > Owner and Developer
> >
> > Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> > Design/SEO
> >
> > WebParity.net <http://webparity.net/>
> >
> > A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned Business
> >
> > WA State License: 603-501-609
> >
> > 360-830-8926 C
> >
> >
> >
> > “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> >
> > * Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
> >
> >
> >
> > This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s)
> > and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are
> > not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy
> > all copies of the original message and its attachments. Any
> > unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:25 PM
> > To: peter@webparity.net
> > Cc: Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>;
> > netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: testing done?
> >
> >
> >
> > They are huge, with what, exactly? What is it that is huge? The
> > number of files written by you yourself? The number of lines of code
> > per file? The number of JavaScript libraries downloaded by your framework?
> > So, great, your projects are huge, but in what way, exactly?
> >
> >
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 17:18, <peter@webparity.net <mailto:
> > peter@webparity.net> > wrote:
> >
> > Forgive my ignorance, but how do I make a Head Dump?
> >
> > I'm running Node JS, Angular 5 and 7 on different projects and THEY
> > ARE HUGE.
> >
> > My home projects a minimalist and my work projects are MASSIVE...
> >
> > That "may" be the issues. Also, I only run 1 or 2 projects in my
> > project group as keeping ALL open will really clog up the plumbing
> >
> >
> > Peter Borreggine
> > Owner and Developer
> > Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> > Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
> > Business WA State License: 603-501-609
> > 360-830-8926 C
> >
> > “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> > - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
> >
> > This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s)
> > and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are
> > not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy
> > all copies of the original message and its attachments. Any
> > unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com <mailto:
> > laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> >
> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:03 AM
> > To: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: testing done?
> >
> > Well it would be good to know which modules are you using, like you
> > are developing some UI with Nod JS.
> >
> > Also you could make some heapdump if you feel the slowness. ore even
> > before and after that.
> >
> > A sample project and steps to follow to reproduce the issue.
> >
> > More details the better.
> >
> > On 3/28/19 8:51 AM, peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net>
> > wrote:
> > > I use WIN 10 PRO on all my machines.
> > >
> > > My home system is a 2 TB drive, not SSD, my work computer is a 250
> > > GB
> > SSD drive.
> > >
> > > My home system NB 10 seems to be "stable" for now... better than
> > > my work
> > computer.
> > >
> > > My Work computer has CARBON BLACK for the Anti-virus and I'm VPN
> > > to my
> > corporate network through my home network.
> > >
> > > My home system uses Trend Micro Titanium for Anti-virus.
> > >
> > > The slowness is more on my work system (ACER LAPTOP) and my home
> > computer is a 2 year old HP Pavilion Desktop with 16 GB memory.
> > >
> > > My work computer (ACER LAPTOP) has only 8 GB memory.
> > >
> > > Whatever else you need, I'll send.
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > >
> > > Peter Borreggine
> > > Owner and Developer
> > > Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> > > Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran
> > > Owned Business WA State License: 603-501-609
> > > 360-830-8926 C
> > >
> > > “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> > > - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
> > >
> > > This email message is for the sole use of the intended
> > > recipient(s) and
> > may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not
> > the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all
> > copies of the original message and its attachments. Any unauthorized
> > review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID
> > <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> >
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:35 AM
> > > To: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net>
> > > Cc: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid
> <mailto:
> > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid> >; joe
> > > schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> >;
> > netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> > > Subject: Re: testing done?
> > >
> > > Well, let’s start by understanding your environment. Which
> > > operating
> > system are you on? Which JDK?
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 15:30, <peter@webparity.net <mailto:
> > peter@webparity.net> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Also, when I click SAVE, it takes forever or not at all and I
> > >> have to KILL NBs.
> > >>
> > >> I'm running NB's on a 250 gb SSD Drive so there's NO excuse for
> > >> this not working. I don't understand, people.
> > >>
> > >> Please advise because 10 and 11 for me are NOT reliable.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Peter Borreggine
> > >> Owner and Developer
> > >> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> > >> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran
> > >> Owned Business WA State License: 603-501-609
> > >> 360-830-8926 C
> > >>
> > >> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> > >> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
> > >>
> > >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended
> > >> recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged
> > >> information. If you are not the intended recipient, please
> > >> contact the sender and destroy all copies of the original message
> > >> and its attachments. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <
> > peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> >
> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 7:25 AM
> > >> To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID
> > <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> >;
> > >> 'joe schmo' <geekyguy444@hotmail.com
> > >> <ma...@hotmail.com> >
> > >> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> > >> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> > >> Subject: RE: testing done?
> > >>
> > >> All,
> > >>
> > >> I'm experiencing a lag when using NB 10. I format and get a
> > >> message, "it's taking too long..."
> > >>
> > >> Scrolling is DELAYED... 1 - 3s...
> > >>
> > >> I've changed the -J-Xms1024m but boosting it up to 2048 like I
> > >> did for NB
> > >> 8.2 which works without issues. NB 10 and 11 LOCKS UP after a
> > >> while and have to close it with Task Manager.
> > >>
> > >> I click Garbage collection and the number stays around 748/1024.
> > >>
> > >> I’m concerned that I can't use the best of NB 10 and 11 but cannot.
> > >> I have to revert back to using 8.2 since 10 and 11 are not stable...
> > >>
> > >> ANY SUGGESTIONS would be greatly appreciated. I've been using NB
> > >> since 2013. My company is pushing me to use InteliJ and Eclipse,
> > >> both
> > which SUCK!
> > >>
> > >> Thoughts, please?
> > >>
> > >> netbeans_default_options="-J-XX:+UseStringDeduplication -J-Xss2m
> > >> -J-Xms1024m -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2
> > >> -J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true
> > >> -J-Dapple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz=true -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true
> > >> -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=true
> > >> -J-Dsun.zip.disableMemoryMapping=true
> > >> -J-Dplugin.manager.check.updates=false
> > >> -J-Dnetbeans.extbrowser.manual_chrome_plugin_install=yes
> > >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.net <http://java.net> =ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang.ref=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.security=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-opens=java.prefs/java.util.prefs=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-opens=jdk.jshell/jdk.jshell=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-modules=jdk.jshell
> > >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/java.awt.peer=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.beans.editors=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.im <http://sun.awt.im>
> > =ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-exports=jdk.internal.jvmstat/sun.jvmstat.monitor=ALL-UNNA
> > >> ME D -J--add-exports=java.management/sun.management=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-exports=java.base/sun.reflect.annotation=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-exports=jdk.javadoc/com.sun.tools.javadoc.main=ALL-UNNAME
> > >> D -J-XX:+IgnoreUnrecognizedVMOptions --fontsize 18"
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Peter Borreggine
> > >> Owner and Developer
> > >> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> > >> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran
> > >> Owned Business WA State
> > >> License: 603-501-609
> > >> 360-830-8926 C
> > >>
> > >> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> > >> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
> > >>
> > >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended
> > >> recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged
> > >> information. If you are not the intended recipient, please
> > >> contact the sender and destroy all copies of the original message
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> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID
> > <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> >
> > >> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 11:26 PM
> > >> To: joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com
> > >> <ma...@hotmail.com>
> > >
> > >> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> > >> <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> > >> Subject: Re: testing done?
> > >>
> > >> Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
> > >>
> > >> Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover
> > >> has been done.
> > >>
> > >> Gj
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com
> > <ma...@hotmail.com> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me
> > >>> is gone, that's why I'm asking.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks.
> > >>>
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Re: testing done?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
You're going to need to explain your environment (which operating system,
which JDK, etc), also steps to reproduce, none of this seems to have
anything to do with this thread. Please file issues here, one issue per
problem, with a clear description of your environment and a clear step by
step instruction of how to reproduce the problem:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS
Thanks,
Gj
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:17 PM <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
> Also, when I close Netbeans, the warning for "EXIT IDE" comes up once,
> immediately, then 1 min later, it appears again when the program is already
> closed but "not" out of the processes in Task Manager.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Again, this happens on all versions: 10 and 11
>
> Thank you
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
> Owner and Developer
> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web Design/SEO
> WebParity.net
> A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned Business
> WA State License: 603-501-609
> 360-830-8926 C
>
> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>
> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and
> may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the
> intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the
> original message and its attachments. Any unauthorized review, use,
> disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 7:12 AM
> To: peter@webparity.net
> Cc: Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>; netcat <
> netcat@netbeans.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
> Just go to netbeans.apache.org, install the latest version, Apache
> NetBeans 11.0, see if the problem can be reproduced, if so, create an
> issue, provide step by step instructions for how to reproduce this exactly.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:09 PM <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
>
> > Also, when I click FORMAT, nothing happens or the warning says, “This
> > is taking longer than usual” and never FORMATS. I have to cancel.
> >
> >
> >
> > I don’t understand what’s wrong. My memory in netbeans.conf is set to
> > 1024 but that’s still not enough.
> >
> >
> >
> > This has been inherent with NB as it’s a memory hog. When I kill the
> > process, it’s taking up nearly ½ of my CPU and memory. Why?
> >
> >
> >
> > This is not ready for primetime unless I don’t have the most recent
> > version, or the updater is not working on two computers.
> >
> >
> >
> > The version is incubator-380-20181217.
> >
> >
> >
> > Is that the problem?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Peter Borreggine*
> >
> > *Owner and Developer*
> >
> > *Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> > Design/SEO*
> >
> > *WebParity.net <http://webparity.net/>*
> >
> > *A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned Business*
> >
> > *WA State License: 603-501-609*
> >
> > *360-830-8926 C*
> >
> >
> >
> > *“Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”*
> >
> > - *Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford*
> >
> >
> >
> > This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s)
> > and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are
> > not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all
> > copies of the original message and its attachments. Any unauthorized
> > review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:57 PM
> > *To:* peter@webparity.net
> > *Cc:* Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>;
> > netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> > *Subject:* Re: testing done?
> >
> >
> >
> > Are you aware you can exclude complete folders from being scanned by
> > NetBeans, which could speed parsing up a lot? See the Files section in
> > the Miscellaneous tab of the Options window.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 20:36, <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
> >
> > Geertjan,
> >
> >
> >
> > First we have a number of components and services written by our team
> > in India. What’s huge is that number. There are over 15,000 objects
> > saved in git not including the node_modules folder.
> >
> >
> >
> > Some of these files are over 2500 lines, some as little as 50.
> >
> >
> >
> > Just to let you know, when I run compodoc (an npm library for
> > documentation of Angular projects) it crashes due to memory problems
> > but this is a known issue with Compodoc and Vincent the creator of the
> > library is addressing this.
> >
> >
> >
> > There are over 200 folders in the hierarchal structure…
> >
> >
> >
> > They are all .ts, .spec.ts, .scss, .html in most of the folders.
> >
> >
> >
> > That’s what I mean by huge.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hope this helps
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Peter Borreggine
> >
> > Owner and Developer
> >
> > Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> > Design/SEO
> >
> > WebParity.net <http://webparity.net/>
> >
> > A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned Business
> >
> > WA State License: 603-501-609
> >
> > 360-830-8926 C
> >
> >
> >
> > “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> >
> > * Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
> >
> >
> >
> > This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s)
> > and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are
> > not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all
> > copies of the original message and its attachments. Any unauthorized
> > review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:25 PM
> > To: peter@webparity.net
> > Cc: Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>;
> > netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: testing done?
> >
> >
> >
> > They are huge, with what, exactly? What is it that is huge? The number
> > of files written by you yourself? The number of lines of code per
> > file? The number of JavaScript libraries downloaded by your framework?
> > So, great, your projects are huge, but in what way, exactly?
> >
> >
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 17:18, <peter@webparity.net <mailto:
> > peter@webparity.net> > wrote:
> >
> > Forgive my ignorance, but how do I make a Head Dump?
> >
> > I'm running Node JS, Angular 5 and 7 on different projects and THEY
> > ARE HUGE.
> >
> > My home projects a minimalist and my work projects are MASSIVE...
> >
> > That "may" be the issues. Also, I only run 1 or 2 projects in my
> > project group as keeping ALL open will really clog up the plumbing
> >
> >
> > Peter Borreggine
> > Owner and Developer
> > Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> > Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
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> >
> > “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> > - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
> >
> > This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s)
> > and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com <mailto:
> > laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> >
> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:03 AM
> > To: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: testing done?
> >
> > Well it would be good to know which modules are you using, like you
> > are developing some UI with Nod JS.
> >
> > Also you could make some heapdump if you feel the slowness. ore even
> > before and after that.
> >
> > A sample project and steps to follow to reproduce the issue.
> >
> > More details the better.
> >
> > On 3/28/19 8:51 AM, peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net>
> > wrote:
> > > I use WIN 10 PRO on all my machines.
> > >
> > > My home system is a 2 TB drive, not SSD, my work computer is a 250
> > > GB
> > SSD drive.
> > >
> > > My home system NB 10 seems to be "stable" for now... better than my
> > > work
> > computer.
> > >
> > > My Work computer has CARBON BLACK for the Anti-virus and I'm VPN to
> > > my
> > corporate network through my home network.
> > >
> > > My home system uses Trend Micro Titanium for Anti-virus.
> > >
> > > The slowness is more on my work system (ACER LAPTOP) and my home
> > computer is a 2 year old HP Pavilion Desktop with 16 GB memory.
> > >
> > > My work computer (ACER LAPTOP) has only 8 GB memory.
> > >
> > > Whatever else you need, I'll send.
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > >
> > > Peter Borreggine
> > > Owner and Developer
> > > Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> > > Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
> > > Business WA State License: 603-501-609
> > > 360-830-8926 C
> > >
> > > “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> > > - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID
> > <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> >
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:35 AM
> > > To: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net>
> > > Cc: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid
> <mailto:
> > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid> >; joe
> > > schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> >;
> > netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> > > Subject: Re: testing done?
> > >
> > > Well, let’s start by understanding your environment. Which operating
> > system are you on? Which JDK?
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 15:30, <peter@webparity.net <mailto:
> > peter@webparity.net> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Also, when I click SAVE, it takes forever or not at all and I have
> > >> to KILL NBs.
> > >>
> > >> I'm running NB's on a 250 gb SSD Drive so there's NO excuse for
> > >> this not working. I don't understand, people.
> > >>
> > >> Please advise because 10 and 11 for me are NOT reliable.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Peter Borreggine
> > >> Owner and Developer
> > >> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> > >> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
> > >> Business WA State License: 603-501-609
> > >> 360-830-8926 C
> > >>
> > >> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> > >> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
> > >>
> > >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s)
> > >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are
> > >> not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy
> > >> all copies of the original message and its attachments. Any
> > >> unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <
> > peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> >
> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 7:25 AM
> > >> To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID
> > <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> >;
> > >> 'joe schmo' <geekyguy444@hotmail.com
> > >> <ma...@hotmail.com> >
> > >> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> > >> Subject: RE: testing done?
> > >>
> > >> All,
> > >>
> > >> I'm experiencing a lag when using NB 10. I format and get a
> > >> message, "it's taking too long..."
> > >>
> > >> Scrolling is DELAYED... 1 - 3s...
> > >>
> > >> I've changed the -J-Xms1024m but boosting it up to 2048 like I did
> > >> for NB
> > >> 8.2 which works without issues. NB 10 and 11 LOCKS UP after a
> > >> while and have to close it with Task Manager.
> > >>
> > >> I click Garbage collection and the number stays around 748/1024.
> > >>
> > >> I’m concerned that I can't use the best of NB 10 and 11 but cannot.
> > >> I have to revert back to using 8.2 since 10 and 11 are not stable...
> > >>
> > >> ANY SUGGESTIONS would be greatly appreciated. I've been using NB
> > >> since 2013. My company is pushing me to use InteliJ and Eclipse,
> > >> both
> > which SUCK!
> > >>
> > >> Thoughts, please?
> > >>
> > >> netbeans_default_options="-J-XX:+UseStringDeduplication -J-Xss2m
> > >> -J-Xms1024m -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2
> > >> -J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true
> > >> -J-Dapple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz=true -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true
> > >> -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=true -J-Dsun.zip.disableMemoryMapping=true
> > >> -J-Dplugin.manager.check.updates=false
> > >> -J-Dnetbeans.extbrowser.manual_chrome_plugin_install=yes
> > >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.net <http://java.net> =ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang.ref=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.security=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-opens=java.prefs/java.util.prefs=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-opens=jdk.jshell/jdk.jshell=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-modules=jdk.jshell
> > >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/java.awt.peer=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.beans.editors=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.im <http://sun.awt.im>
> > =ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-exports=jdk.internal.jvmstat/sun.jvmstat.monitor=ALL-UNNAME
> > >> D -J--add-exports=java.management/sun.management=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-exports=java.base/sun.reflect.annotation=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J--add-exports=jdk.javadoc/com.sun.tools.javadoc.main=ALL-UNNAMED
> > >> -J-XX:+IgnoreUnrecognizedVMOptions --fontsize 18"
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Peter Borreggine
> > >> Owner and Developer
> > >> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> > >> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
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> > >> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
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> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID
> > <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> >
> > >> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 11:26 PM
> > >> To: joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com
> > >> <ma...@hotmail.com>
> > >
> > >> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> > >> Subject: Re: testing done?
> > >>
> > >> Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
> > >>
> > >> Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover
> > >> has been done.
> > >>
> > >> Gj
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com
> > <ma...@hotmail.com> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is
> > >>> gone, that's why I'm asking.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks.
> > >>>
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RE: testing done?
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
Also, when I close Netbeans, the warning for "EXIT IDE" comes up once, immediately, then 1 min later, it appears again when the program is already closed but "not" out of the processes in Task Manager.
Thoughts?
Again, this happens on all versions: 10 and 11
Thank you
Peter Borreggine
Owner and Developer
Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web Design/SEO
WebParity.net
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-----Original Message-----
From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 7:12 AM
To: peter@webparity.net
Cc: Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>; netcat <ne...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: testing done?
Just go to netbeans.apache.org, install the latest version, Apache NetBeans 11.0, see if the problem can be reproduced, if so, create an issue, provide step by step instructions for how to reproduce this exactly.
Thanks,
Gj
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:09 PM <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
> Also, when I click FORMAT, nothing happens or the warning says, “This
> is taking longer than usual” and never FORMATS. I have to cancel.
>
>
>
> I don’t understand what’s wrong. My memory in netbeans.conf is set to
> 1024 but that’s still not enough.
>
>
>
> This has been inherent with NB as it’s a memory hog. When I kill the
> process, it’s taking up nearly ½ of my CPU and memory. Why?
>
>
>
> This is not ready for primetime unless I don’t have the most recent
> version, or the updater is not working on two computers.
>
>
>
> The version is incubator-380-20181217.
>
>
>
> Is that the problem?
>
>
>
>
>
> *Peter Borreggine*
>
> *Owner and Developer*
>
> *Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> Design/SEO*
>
> *WebParity.net <http://webparity.net/>*
>
> *A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned Business*
>
> *WA State License: 603-501-609*
>
> *360-830-8926 C*
>
>
>
> *“Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”*
>
> - *Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford*
>
>
>
> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s)
> and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are
> not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all
> copies of the original message and its attachments. Any unauthorized
> review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
>
>
>
> *From:* Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:57 PM
> *To:* peter@webparity.net
> *Cc:* Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>;
> netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: testing done?
>
>
>
> Are you aware you can exclude complete folders from being scanned by
> NetBeans, which could speed parsing up a lot? See the Files section in
> the Miscellaneous tab of the Options window.
>
>
>
> Gj
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 20:36, <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
>
> Geertjan,
>
>
>
> First we have a number of components and services written by our team
> in India. What’s huge is that number. There are over 15,000 objects
> saved in git not including the node_modules folder.
>
>
>
> Some of these files are over 2500 lines, some as little as 50.
>
>
>
> Just to let you know, when I run compodoc (an npm library for
> documentation of Angular projects) it crashes due to memory problems
> but this is a known issue with Compodoc and Vincent the creator of the
> library is addressing this.
>
>
>
> There are over 200 folders in the hierarchal structure…
>
>
>
> They are all .ts, .spec.ts, .scss, .html in most of the folders.
>
>
>
> That’s what I mean by huge.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps
>
>
>
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
>
> Owner and Developer
>
> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> Design/SEO
>
> WebParity.net <http://webparity.net/>
>
> A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned Business
>
> WA State License: 603-501-609
>
> 360-830-8926 C
>
>
>
> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
>
> * Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>
>
>
> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s)
> and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are
> not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all
> copies of the original message and its attachments. Any unauthorized
> review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
>
>
>
> From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:25 PM
> To: peter@webparity.net
> Cc: Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>;
> netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
>
>
> They are huge, with what, exactly? What is it that is huge? The number
> of files written by you yourself? The number of lines of code per
> file? The number of JavaScript libraries downloaded by your framework?
> So, great, your projects are huge, but in what way, exactly?
>
>
>
> Gj
>
>
>
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 17:18, <peter@webparity.net <mailto:
> peter@webparity.net> > wrote:
>
> Forgive my ignorance, but how do I make a Head Dump?
>
> I'm running Node JS, Angular 5 and 7 on different projects and THEY
> ARE HUGE.
>
> My home projects a minimalist and my work projects are MASSIVE...
>
> That "may" be the issues. Also, I only run 1 or 2 projects in my
> project group as keeping ALL open will really clog up the plumbing
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
> Owner and Developer
> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
> Business WA State License: 603-501-609
> 360-830-8926 C
>
> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>
> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s)
> and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are
> not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all
> copies of the original message and its attachments. Any unauthorized
> review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com <mailto:
> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> >
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:03 AM
> To: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
> Well it would be good to know which modules are you using, like you
> are developing some UI with Nod JS.
>
> Also you could make some heapdump if you feel the slowness. ore even
> before and after that.
>
> A sample project and steps to follow to reproduce the issue.
>
> More details the better.
>
> On 3/28/19 8:51 AM, peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net>
> wrote:
> > I use WIN 10 PRO on all my machines.
> >
> > My home system is a 2 TB drive, not SSD, my work computer is a 250
> > GB
> SSD drive.
> >
> > My home system NB 10 seems to be "stable" for now... better than my
> > work
> computer.
> >
> > My Work computer has CARBON BLACK for the Anti-virus and I'm VPN to
> > my
> corporate network through my home network.
> >
> > My home system uses Trend Micro Titanium for Anti-virus.
> >
> > The slowness is more on my work system (ACER LAPTOP) and my home
> computer is a 2 year old HP Pavilion Desktop with 16 GB memory.
> >
> > My work computer (ACER LAPTOP) has only 8 GB memory.
> >
> > Whatever else you need, I'll send.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> >
> > Peter Borreggine
> > Owner and Developer
> > Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> > Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
> > Business WA State License: 603-501-609
> > 360-830-8926 C
> >
> > “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> > - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
> >
> > This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s)
> > and
> may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not
> the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all
> copies of the original message and its attachments. Any unauthorized
> review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID
> <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> >
> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:35 AM
> > To: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net>
> > Cc: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid <mailto:
> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid> >; joe
> > schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> >;
> netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: testing done?
> >
> > Well, let’s start by understanding your environment. Which operating
> system are you on? Which JDK?
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 15:30, <peter@webparity.net <mailto:
> peter@webparity.net> > wrote:
> >
> >> Also, when I click SAVE, it takes forever or not at all and I have
> >> to KILL NBs.
> >>
> >> I'm running NB's on a 250 gb SSD Drive so there's NO excuse for
> >> this not working. I don't understand, people.
> >>
> >> Please advise because 10 and 11 for me are NOT reliable.
> >>
> >>
> >> Peter Borreggine
> >> Owner and Developer
> >> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> >> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
> >> Business WA State License: 603-501-609
> >> 360-830-8926 C
> >>
> >> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> >> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
> >>
> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s)
> >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are
> >> not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy
> >> all copies of the original message and its attachments. Any
> >> unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <
> peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> >
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 7:25 AM
> >> To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID
> <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> >;
> >> 'joe schmo' <geekyguy444@hotmail.com
> >> <ma...@hotmail.com> >
> >> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> >> Subject: RE: testing done?
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> I'm experiencing a lag when using NB 10. I format and get a
> >> message, "it's taking too long..."
> >>
> >> Scrolling is DELAYED... 1 - 3s...
> >>
> >> I've changed the -J-Xms1024m but boosting it up to 2048 like I did
> >> for NB
> >> 8.2 which works without issues. NB 10 and 11 LOCKS UP after a
> >> while and have to close it with Task Manager.
> >>
> >> I click Garbage collection and the number stays around 748/1024.
> >>
> >> I’m concerned that I can't use the best of NB 10 and 11 but cannot.
> >> I have to revert back to using 8.2 since 10 and 11 are not stable...
> >>
> >> ANY SUGGESTIONS would be greatly appreciated. I've been using NB
> >> since 2013. My company is pushing me to use InteliJ and Eclipse,
> >> both
> which SUCK!
> >>
> >> Thoughts, please?
> >>
> >> netbeans_default_options="-J-XX:+UseStringDeduplication -J-Xss2m
> >> -J-Xms1024m -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2
> >> -J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true
> >> -J-Dapple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz=true -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true
> >> -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=true -J-Dsun.zip.disableMemoryMapping=true
> >> -J-Dplugin.manager.check.updates=false
> >> -J-Dnetbeans.extbrowser.manual_chrome_plugin_install=yes
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.net <http://java.net> =ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang.ref=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.security=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.prefs/java.util.prefs=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=jdk.jshell/jdk.jshell=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-modules=jdk.jshell
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/java.awt.peer=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.beans.editors=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.im <http://sun.awt.im>
> =ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=jdk.internal.jvmstat/sun.jvmstat.monitor=ALL-UNNAME
> >> D -J--add-exports=java.management/sun.management=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.base/sun.reflect.annotation=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=jdk.javadoc/com.sun.tools.javadoc.main=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J-XX:+IgnoreUnrecognizedVMOptions --fontsize 18"
> >>
> >>
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> >> <ma...@hotmail.com>
> >
> >> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> >> Subject: Re: testing done?
> >>
> >> Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
> >>
> >> Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover
> >> has been done.
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com
> <ma...@hotmail.com> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is
> >>> gone, that's why I'm asking.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
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RE: testing done?
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
I've already got 11.0... trying now
Does it update itself or is that something I have to do manually? Also, does running it as Administrator like I do with NB8.2 required for better performance?
I notice that you don't "install" it and simple "unpack" it and move it to Program Files.
Was that correct or did I do something wrong?
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-----Original Message-----
From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 7:12 AM
To: peter@webparity.net
Cc: Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>; netcat <ne...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: testing done?
Just go to netbeans.apache.org, install the latest version, Apache NetBeans 11.0, see if the problem can be reproduced, if so, create an issue, provide step by step instructions for how to reproduce this exactly.
Thanks,
Gj
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:09 PM <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
> Also, when I click FORMAT, nothing happens or the warning says, “This
> is taking longer than usual” and never FORMATS. I have to cancel.
>
>
>
> I don’t understand what’s wrong. My memory in netbeans.conf is set to
> 1024 but that’s still not enough.
>
>
>
> This has been inherent with NB as it’s a memory hog. When I kill the
> process, it’s taking up nearly ½ of my CPU and memory. Why?
>
>
>
> This is not ready for primetime unless I don’t have the most recent
> version, or the updater is not working on two computers.
>
>
>
> The version is incubator-380-20181217.
>
>
>
> Is that the problem?
>
>
>
>
>
> *Peter Borreggine*
>
> *Owner and Developer*
>
> *Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> Design/SEO*
>
> *WebParity.net <http://webparity.net/>*
>
> *A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned Business*
>
> *WA State License: 603-501-609*
>
> *360-830-8926 C*
>
>
>
> *“Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”*
>
> - *Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford*
>
>
>
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>
> *From:* Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:57 PM
> *To:* peter@webparity.net
> *Cc:* Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>;
> netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: testing done?
>
>
>
> Are you aware you can exclude complete folders from being scanned by
> NetBeans, which could speed parsing up a lot? See the Files section in
> the Miscellaneous tab of the Options window.
>
>
>
> Gj
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 20:36, <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
>
> Geertjan,
>
>
>
> First we have a number of components and services written by our team
> in India. What’s huge is that number. There are over 15,000 objects
> saved in git not including the node_modules folder.
>
>
>
> Some of these files are over 2500 lines, some as little as 50.
>
>
>
> Just to let you know, when I run compodoc (an npm library for
> documentation of Angular projects) it crashes due to memory problems
> but this is a known issue with Compodoc and Vincent the creator of the
> library is addressing this.
>
>
>
> There are over 200 folders in the hierarchal structure…
>
>
>
> They are all .ts, .spec.ts, .scss, .html in most of the folders.
>
>
>
> That’s what I mean by huge.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps
>
>
>
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
>
> Owner and Developer
>
> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> Design/SEO
>
> WebParity.net <http://webparity.net/>
>
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>
> WA State License: 603-501-609
>
> 360-830-8926 C
>
>
>
> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
>
> * Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>
>
>
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>
>
> From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:25 PM
> To: peter@webparity.net
> Cc: Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>;
> netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
>
>
> They are huge, with what, exactly? What is it that is huge? The number
> of files written by you yourself? The number of lines of code per
> file? The number of JavaScript libraries downloaded by your framework?
> So, great, your projects are huge, but in what way, exactly?
>
>
>
> Gj
>
>
>
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 17:18, <peter@webparity.net <mailto:
> peter@webparity.net> > wrote:
>
> Forgive my ignorance, but how do I make a Head Dump?
>
> I'm running Node JS, Angular 5 and 7 on different projects and THEY
> ARE HUGE.
>
> My home projects a minimalist and my work projects are MASSIVE...
>
> That "may" be the issues. Also, I only run 1 or 2 projects in my
> project group as keeping ALL open will really clog up the plumbing
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
> Owner and Developer
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>
> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com <mailto:
> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> >
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:03 AM
> To: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
> Well it would be good to know which modules are you using, like you
> are developing some UI with Nod JS.
>
> Also you could make some heapdump if you feel the slowness. ore even
> before and after that.
>
> A sample project and steps to follow to reproduce the issue.
>
> More details the better.
>
> On 3/28/19 8:51 AM, peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net>
> wrote:
> > I use WIN 10 PRO on all my machines.
> >
> > My home system is a 2 TB drive, not SSD, my work computer is a 250
> > GB
> SSD drive.
> >
> > My home system NB 10 seems to be "stable" for now... better than my
> > work
> computer.
> >
> > My Work computer has CARBON BLACK for the Anti-virus and I'm VPN to
> > my
> corporate network through my home network.
> >
> > My home system uses Trend Micro Titanium for Anti-virus.
> >
> > The slowness is more on my work system (ACER LAPTOP) and my home
> computer is a 2 year old HP Pavilion Desktop with 16 GB memory.
> >
> > My work computer (ACER LAPTOP) has only 8 GB memory.
> >
> > Whatever else you need, I'll send.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> >
> > Peter Borreggine
> > Owner and Developer
> > Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> > Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
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> > 360-830-8926 C
> >
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> > - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID
> <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> >
> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:35 AM
> > To: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net>
> > Cc: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid <mailto:
> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid> >; joe
> > schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> >;
> netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: testing done?
> >
> > Well, let’s start by understanding your environment. Which operating
> system are you on? Which JDK?
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 15:30, <peter@webparity.net <mailto:
> peter@webparity.net> > wrote:
> >
> >> Also, when I click SAVE, it takes forever or not at all and I have
> >> to KILL NBs.
> >>
> >> I'm running NB's on a 250 gb SSD Drive so there's NO excuse for
> >> this not working. I don't understand, people.
> >>
> >> Please advise because 10 and 11 for me are NOT reliable.
> >>
> >>
> >> Peter Borreggine
> >> Owner and Developer
> >> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> >> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
> >> Business WA State License: 603-501-609
> >> 360-830-8926 C
> >>
> >> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> >> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
> >>
> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s)
> >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are
> >> not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy
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> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <
> peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> >
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 7:25 AM
> >> To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID
> <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> >;
> >> 'joe schmo' <geekyguy444@hotmail.com
> >> <ma...@hotmail.com> >
> >> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> >> Subject: RE: testing done?
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> I'm experiencing a lag when using NB 10. I format and get a
> >> message, "it's taking too long..."
> >>
> >> Scrolling is DELAYED... 1 - 3s...
> >>
> >> I've changed the -J-Xms1024m but boosting it up to 2048 like I did
> >> for NB
> >> 8.2 which works without issues. NB 10 and 11 LOCKS UP after a
> >> while and have to close it with Task Manager.
> >>
> >> I click Garbage collection and the number stays around 748/1024.
> >>
> >> I’m concerned that I can't use the best of NB 10 and 11 but cannot.
> >> I have to revert back to using 8.2 since 10 and 11 are not stable...
> >>
> >> ANY SUGGESTIONS would be greatly appreciated. I've been using NB
> >> since 2013. My company is pushing me to use InteliJ and Eclipse,
> >> both
> which SUCK!
> >>
> >> Thoughts, please?
> >>
> >> netbeans_default_options="-J-XX:+UseStringDeduplication -J-Xss2m
> >> -J-Xms1024m -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2
> >> -J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true
> >> -J-Dapple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz=true -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true
> >> -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=true -J-Dsun.zip.disableMemoryMapping=true
> >> -J-Dplugin.manager.check.updates=false
> >> -J-Dnetbeans.extbrowser.manual_chrome_plugin_install=yes
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.net <http://java.net> =ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang.ref=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.security=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.prefs/java.util.prefs=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=jdk.jshell/jdk.jshell=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-modules=jdk.jshell
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/java.awt.peer=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.beans.editors=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.im <http://sun.awt.im>
> =ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=jdk.internal.jvmstat/sun.jvmstat.monitor=ALL-UNNAME
> >> D -J--add-exports=java.management/sun.management=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.base/sun.reflect.annotation=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=jdk.javadoc/com.sun.tools.javadoc.main=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J-XX:+IgnoreUnrecognizedVMOptions --fontsize 18"
> >>
> >>
> >> Peter Borreggine
> >> Owner and Developer
> >> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> >> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
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> >> 360-830-8926 C
> >>
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> >> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
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> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID
> <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> >
> >> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 11:26 PM
> >> To: joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com
> >> <ma...@hotmail.com>
> >
> >> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> >> Subject: Re: testing done?
> >>
> >> Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
> >>
> >> Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover
> >> has been done.
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com
> <ma...@hotmail.com> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is
> >>> gone, that's why I'm asking.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
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Very Slow Operations with NB 11
Posted by Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com>.
What is the best course of action for reporting slowness? I can’t share my project.
I’m not certain how to give step-by-step instructions when the problem is basically one step in most cases. E.g. invoke auto-complete - nothing happens for several seconds. Invoke rename - dialog doesn’t appear for several seconds. Find usages - extremely slow > 5 second delay on a private member of a class less than 100 lines.
In general it seems NB 11 is noticeably slower than NB 8.2. Not good considering slowness was already my #1 complaint about NB 8.2. I have so far found the benefits of NB outweigh the fact that it is much slower than other IDEs for the same operations, but the slowness of NB 11 is tipping the scale. I don’t want to switch IDEs, pease don’t interpret this as some sort of threat to do so. I would like to help find the issues in NB. But I don’t have the bandwidth to debug NB and not being about to share my project makes it difficult to provide helpful reports :-(
Are others seeing the slowness?
Find usages, renames, call-hierarchy, auto-complete… things I use all the time, I often have to wait 5 to 10 seconds for a response from the IDE, sometimes more.
I’ve already deleted user dir and cache and restarted.
I’m using Gradle-based Java projects, running NB 11.0 with JDK 8u202.
Is there a wiki page with instructions on profiling the IDE? Maybe I can collect something useful.
Scott
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Re: testing done?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
Just go to netbeans.apache.org, install the latest version, Apache NetBeans
11.0, see if the problem can be reproduced, if so, create an issue, provide
step by step instructions for how to reproduce this exactly.
Thanks,
Gj
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:09 PM <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
> Also, when I click FORMAT, nothing happens or the warning says, “This is
> taking longer than usual” and never FORMATS. I have to cancel.
>
>
>
> I don’t understand what’s wrong. My memory in netbeans.conf is set to 1024
> but that’s still not enough.
>
>
>
> This has been inherent with NB as it’s a memory hog. When I kill the
> process, it’s taking up nearly ½ of my CPU and memory. Why?
>
>
>
> This is not ready for primetime unless I don’t have the most recent
> version, or the updater is not working on two computers.
>
>
>
> The version is incubator-380-20181217.
>
>
>
> Is that the problem?
>
>
>
>
>
> *Peter Borreggine*
>
> *Owner and Developer*
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> *From:* Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:57 PM
> *To:* peter@webparity.net
> *Cc:* Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>;
> netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: testing done?
>
>
>
> Are you aware you can exclude complete folders from being scanned by
> NetBeans, which could speed parsing up a lot? See the Files section in the
> Miscellaneous tab of the Options window.
>
>
>
> Gj
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 20:36, <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
>
> Geertjan,
>
>
>
> First we have a number of components and services written by our team in
> India. What’s huge is that number. There are over 15,000 objects saved in
> git not including the node_modules folder.
>
>
>
> Some of these files are over 2500 lines, some as little as 50.
>
>
>
> Just to let you know, when I run compodoc (an npm library for
> documentation of Angular projects) it crashes due to memory problems but
> this is a known issue with Compodoc and Vincent the creator of the library
> is addressing this.
>
>
>
> There are over 200 folders in the hierarchal structure…
>
>
>
> They are all .ts, .spec.ts, .scss, .html in most of the folders.
>
>
>
> That’s what I mean by huge.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps
>
>
>
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
>
> Owner and Developer
>
> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web Design/SEO
>
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>
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>
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>
>
>
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>
> * Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>
>
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> From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:25 PM
> To: peter@webparity.net
> Cc: Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>;
> netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
>
>
> They are huge, with what, exactly? What is it that is huge? The number of
> files written by you yourself? The number of lines of code per file? The
> number of JavaScript libraries downloaded by your framework? So, great,
> your projects are huge, but in what way, exactly?
>
>
>
> Gj
>
>
>
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 17:18, <peter@webparity.net <mailto:
> peter@webparity.net> > wrote:
>
> Forgive my ignorance, but how do I make a Head Dump?
>
> I'm running Node JS, Angular 5 and 7 on different projects and THEY ARE
> HUGE.
>
> My home projects a minimalist and my work projects are MASSIVE...
>
> That "may" be the issues. Also, I only run 1 or 2 projects in my project
> group as keeping ALL open will really clog up the plumbing
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
> Owner and Developer
> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web Design/SEO
> WebParity.net
> A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned Business
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> 360-830-8926 C
>
> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com <mailto:
> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> >
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:03 AM
> To: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
> Well it would be good to know which modules are you using, like you are
> developing some UI with Nod JS.
>
> Also you could make some heapdump if you feel the slowness. ore even
> before and after that.
>
> A sample project and steps to follow to reproduce the issue.
>
> More details the better.
>
> On 3/28/19 8:51 AM, peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net>
> wrote:
> > I use WIN 10 PRO on all my machines.
> >
> > My home system is a 2 TB drive, not SSD, my work computer is a 250 GB
> SSD drive.
> >
> > My home system NB 10 seems to be "stable" for now... better than my work
> computer.
> >
> > My Work computer has CARBON BLACK for the Anti-virus and I'm VPN to my
> corporate network through my home network.
> >
> > My home system uses Trend Micro Titanium for Anti-virus.
> >
> > The slowness is more on my work system (ACER LAPTOP) and my home
> computer is a 2 year old HP Pavilion Desktop with 16 GB memory.
> >
> > My work computer (ACER LAPTOP) has only 8 GB memory.
> >
> > Whatever else you need, I'll send.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> >
> > Peter Borreggine
> > Owner and Developer
> > Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID
> <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> >
> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:35 AM
> > To: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net>
> > Cc: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid <mailto:
> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid> >; joe
> > schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> >;
> netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: testing done?
> >
> > Well, let’s start by understanding your environment. Which operating
> system are you on? Which JDK?
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 15:30, <peter@webparity.net <mailto:
> peter@webparity.net> > wrote:
> >
> >> Also, when I click SAVE, it takes forever or not at all and I have to
> >> KILL NBs.
> >>
> >> I'm running NB's on a 250 gb SSD Drive so there's NO excuse for this
> >> not working. I don't understand, people.
> >>
> >> Please advise because 10 and 11 for me are NOT reliable.
> >>
> >>
> >> Peter Borreggine
> >> Owner and Developer
> >> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> >> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
> >> Business WA State License: 603-501-609
> >> 360-830-8926 C
> >>
> >> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> >> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
> >>
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> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <
> peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> >
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 7:25 AM
> >> To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID
> <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> >;
> >> 'joe schmo' <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> >
> >> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> >> Subject: RE: testing done?
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> I'm experiencing a lag when using NB 10. I format and get a message,
> >> "it's taking too long..."
> >>
> >> Scrolling is DELAYED... 1 - 3s...
> >>
> >> I've changed the -J-Xms1024m but boosting it up to 2048 like I did
> >> for NB
> >> 8.2 which works without issues. NB 10 and 11 LOCKS UP after a while
> >> and have to close it with Task Manager.
> >>
> >> I click Garbage collection and the number stays around 748/1024.
> >>
> >> I’m concerned that I can't use the best of NB 10 and 11 but cannot. I
> >> have to revert back to using 8.2 since 10 and 11 are not stable...
> >>
> >> ANY SUGGESTIONS would be greatly appreciated. I've been using NB
> >> since 2013. My company is pushing me to use InteliJ and Eclipse, both
> which SUCK!
> >>
> >> Thoughts, please?
> >>
> >> netbeans_default_options="-J-XX:+UseStringDeduplication -J-Xss2m
> >> -J-Xms1024m -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2
> >> -J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true
> >> -J-Dapple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz=true -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true
> >> -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=true -J-Dsun.zip.disableMemoryMapping=true
> >> -J-Dplugin.manager.check.updates=false
> >> -J-Dnetbeans.extbrowser.manual_chrome_plugin_install=yes
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.net <http://java.net> =ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang.ref=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.security=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.prefs/java.util.prefs=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=jdk.jshell/jdk.jshell=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-modules=jdk.jshell
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/java.awt.peer=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.beans.editors=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.im <http://sun.awt.im>
> =ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=jdk.internal.jvmstat/sun.jvmstat.monitor=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.management/sun.management=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.base/sun.reflect.annotation=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=jdk.javadoc/com.sun.tools.javadoc.main=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J-XX:+IgnoreUnrecognizedVMOptions --fontsize 18"
> >>
> >>
> >> Peter Borreggine
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> <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> >
> >> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 11:26 PM
> >> To: joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com>
> >
> >> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> >> Subject: Re: testing done?
> >>
> >> Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
> >>
> >> Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has
> >> been done.
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com
> <ma...@hotmail.com> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is
> >>> gone, that's why I'm asking.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
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RE: testing done?
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
Also, when I click FORMAT, nothing happens or the warning says, “This is taking longer than usual” and never FORMATS. I have to cancel.
I don’t understand what’s wrong. My memory in netbeans.conf is set to 1024 but that’s still not enough.
This has been inherent with NB as it’s a memory hog. When I kill the process, it’s taking up nearly ½ of my CPU and memory. Why?
This is not ready for primetime unless I don’t have the most recent version, or the updater is not working on two computers.
The version is incubator-380-20181217.
Is that the problem?
Peter Borreggine
Owner and Developer
Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web Design/SEO
WebParity.net <http://webparity.net/>
A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned Business
WA State License: 603-501-609
360-830-8926 C
“Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
* Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
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From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:57 PM
To: peter@webparity.net
Cc: Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>; netcat@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: testing done?
Are you aware you can exclude complete folders from being scanned by NetBeans, which could speed parsing up a lot? See the Files section in the Miscellaneous tab of the Options window.
Gj
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 20:36, <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > wrote:
Geertjan,
First we have a number of components and services written by our team in India. What’s huge is that number. There are over 15,000 objects saved in git not including the node_modules folder.
Some of these files are over 2500 lines, some as little as 50.
Just to let you know, when I run compodoc (an npm library for documentation of Angular projects) it crashes due to memory problems but this is a known issue with Compodoc and Vincent the creator of the library is addressing this.
There are over 200 folders in the hierarchal structure…
They are all .ts, .spec.ts, .scss, .html in most of the folders.
That’s what I mean by huge.
Hope this helps
Peter Borreggine
Owner and Developer
Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web Design/SEO
WebParity.net <http://webparity.net/>
A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned Business
WA State License: 603-501-609
360-830-8926 C
“Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
* Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
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From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com <ma...@googlemail.com> >
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:25 PM
To: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net>
Cc: Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> >; netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: testing done?
They are huge, with what, exactly? What is it that is huge? The number of files written by you yourself? The number of lines of code per file? The number of JavaScript libraries downloaded by your framework? So, great, your projects are huge, but in what way, exactly?
Gj
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 17:18, <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > > wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, but how do I make a Head Dump?
I'm running Node JS, Angular 5 and 7 on different projects and THEY ARE HUGE.
My home projects a minimalist and my work projects are MASSIVE...
That "may" be the issues. Also, I only run 1 or 2 projects in my project group as keeping ALL open will really clog up the plumbing
Peter Borreggine
Owner and Developer
Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web Design/SEO
WebParity.net
A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned Business
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360-830-8926 C
“Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
- Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
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Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:03 AM
To: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> <mailto:netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> >
Subject: Re: testing done?
Well it would be good to know which modules are you using, like you are developing some UI with Nod JS.
Also you could make some heapdump if you feel the slowness. ore even before and after that.
A sample project and steps to follow to reproduce the issue.
More details the better.
On 3/28/19 8:51 AM, peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > wrote:
> I use WIN 10 PRO on all my machines.
>
> My home system is a 2 TB drive, not SSD, my work computer is a 250 GB SSD drive.
>
> My home system NB 10 seems to be "stable" for now... better than my work computer.
>
> My Work computer has CARBON BLACK for the Anti-virus and I'm VPN to my corporate network through my home network.
>
> My home system uses Trend Micro Titanium for Anti-virus.
>
> The slowness is more on my work system (ACER LAPTOP) and my home computer is a 2 year old HP Pavilion Desktop with 16 GB memory.
>
> My work computer (ACER LAPTOP) has only 8 GB memory.
>
> Whatever else you need, I'll send.
>
> Thank you
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
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> To: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> >
> Cc: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid <mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid <ma...@googlemail.com.invalid> > >; joe
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> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
> Well, let’s start by understanding your environment. Which operating system are you on? Which JDK?
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 15:30, <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > > wrote:
>
>> Also, when I click SAVE, it takes forever or not at all and I have to
>> KILL NBs.
>>
>> I'm running NB's on a 250 gb SSD Drive so there's NO excuse for this
>> not working. I don't understand, people.
>>
>> Please advise because 10 and 11 for me are NOT reliable.
>>
>>
>> Peter Borreggine
>> Owner and Developer
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>> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 7:25 AM
>> To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> > >;
>> 'joe schmo' <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> <mailto:geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> > >
>> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> <mailto:netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> >
>> Subject: RE: testing done?
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I'm experiencing a lag when using NB 10. I format and get a message,
>> "it's taking too long..."
>>
>> Scrolling is DELAYED... 1 - 3s...
>>
>> I've changed the -J-Xms1024m but boosting it up to 2048 like I did
>> for NB
>> 8.2 which works without issues. NB 10 and 11 LOCKS UP after a while
>> and have to close it with Task Manager.
>>
>> I click Garbage collection and the number stays around 748/1024.
>>
>> I’m concerned that I can't use the best of NB 10 and 11 but cannot. I
>> have to revert back to using 8.2 since 10 and 11 are not stable...
>>
>> ANY SUGGESTIONS would be greatly appreciated. I've been using NB
>> since 2013. My company is pushing me to use InteliJ and Eclipse, both which SUCK!
>>
>> Thoughts, please?
>>
>> netbeans_default_options="-J-XX:+UseStringDeduplication -J-Xss2m
>> -J-Xms1024m -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2
>> -J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true
>> -J-Dapple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz=true -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true
>> -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=true -J-Dsun.zip.disableMemoryMapping=true
>> -J-Dplugin.manager.check.updates=false
>> -J-Dnetbeans.extbrowser.manual_chrome_plugin_install=yes
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.net <http://java.net> <http://java.net> =ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang.ref=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.security=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.prefs/java.util.prefs=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=jdk.jshell/jdk.jshell=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-modules=jdk.jshell
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/java.awt.peer=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.beans.editors=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.im <http://sun.awt.im> <http://sun.awt.im> =ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=jdk.internal.jvmstat/sun.jvmstat.monitor=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.management/sun.management=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.base/sun.reflect.annotation=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=jdk.javadoc/com.sun.tools.javadoc.main=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J-XX:+IgnoreUnrecognizedVMOptions --fontsize 18"
>>
>>
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>> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 11:26 PM
>> To: joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> <mailto:geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> > >
>> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> <mailto:netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> >
>> Subject: Re: testing done?
>>
>> Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
>>
>> Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has
>> been done.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> <mailto:geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> > > wrote:
>>
>>> Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is
>>> gone, that's why I'm asking.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>
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RE: testing done?
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
Let me attach it… it didn’t come through embedded
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From: peter@webparity.net <pe...@webparity.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 1:45 PM
To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' <ge...@googlemail.com>
Cc: 'Laszlo Kishalmi' <la...@gmail.com>; netcat@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: RE: testing done?
Here’s a screen shot of the cropperjs error that’s “not” an error but I think an anomaly.
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From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com <ma...@googlemail.com> >
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:57 PM
To: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net>
Cc: Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> >; netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: testing done?
Are you aware you can exclude complete folders from being scanned by NetBeans, which could speed parsing up a lot? See the Files section in the Miscellaneous tab of the Options window.
Gj
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 20:36, <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > wrote:
Geertjan,
First we have a number of components and services written by our team in India. What’s huge is that number. There are over 15,000 objects saved in git not including the node_modules folder.
Some of these files are over 2500 lines, some as little as 50.
Just to let you know, when I run compodoc (an npm library for documentation of Angular projects) it crashes due to memory problems but this is a known issue with Compodoc and Vincent the creator of the library is addressing this.
There are over 200 folders in the hierarchal structure…
They are all .ts, .spec.ts, .scss, .html in most of the folders.
That’s what I mean by huge.
Hope this helps
Peter Borreggine
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From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com <ma...@googlemail.com> >
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:25 PM
To: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net>
Cc: Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> >; netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: testing done?
They are huge, with what, exactly? What is it that is huge? The number of files written by you yourself? The number of lines of code per file? The number of JavaScript libraries downloaded by your framework? So, great, your projects are huge, but in what way, exactly?
Gj
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 17:18, <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > > wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, but how do I make a Head Dump?
I'm running Node JS, Angular 5 and 7 on different projects and THEY ARE HUGE.
My home projects a minimalist and my work projects are MASSIVE...
That "may" be the issues. Also, I only run 1 or 2 projects in my project group as keeping ALL open will really clog up the plumbing
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From: Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> <mailto:laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> > >
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:03 AM
To: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> <mailto:netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> >
Subject: Re: testing done?
Well it would be good to know which modules are you using, like you are developing some UI with Nod JS.
Also you could make some heapdump if you feel the slowness. ore even before and after that.
A sample project and steps to follow to reproduce the issue.
More details the better.
On 3/28/19 8:51 AM, peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > wrote:
> I use WIN 10 PRO on all my machines.
>
> My home system is a 2 TB drive, not SSD, my work computer is a 250 GB SSD drive.
>
> My home system NB 10 seems to be "stable" for now... better than my work computer.
>
> My Work computer has CARBON BLACK for the Anti-virus and I'm VPN to my corporate network through my home network.
>
> My home system uses Trend Micro Titanium for Anti-virus.
>
> The slowness is more on my work system (ACER LAPTOP) and my home computer is a 2 year old HP Pavilion Desktop with 16 GB memory.
>
> My work computer (ACER LAPTOP) has only 8 GB memory.
>
> Whatever else you need, I'll send.
>
> Thank you
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
> Owner and Developer
> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
> Business WA State License: 603-501-609
> 360-830-8926 C
>
> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> > >
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:35 AM
> To: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> >
> Cc: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid <mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid <ma...@googlemail.com.invalid> > >; joe
> schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> <mailto:geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> > >; netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> <mailto:netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> >
> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
> Well, let’s start by understanding your environment. Which operating system are you on? Which JDK?
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 15:30, <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > > wrote:
>
>> Also, when I click SAVE, it takes forever or not at all and I have to
>> KILL NBs.
>>
>> I'm running NB's on a 250 gb SSD Drive so there's NO excuse for this
>> not working. I don't understand, people.
>>
>> Please advise because 10 and 11 for me are NOT reliable.
>>
>>
>> Peter Borreggine
>> Owner and Developer
>> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
>> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
>> Business WA State License: 603-501-609
>> 360-830-8926 C
>>
>> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
>> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>>
>> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s)
>> and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are
>> not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all
>> copies of the original message and its attachments. Any unauthorized
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > >
>> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 7:25 AM
>> To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> > >;
>> 'joe schmo' <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> <mailto:geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> > >
>> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> <mailto:netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> >
>> Subject: RE: testing done?
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I'm experiencing a lag when using NB 10. I format and get a message,
>> "it's taking too long..."
>>
>> Scrolling is DELAYED... 1 - 3s...
>>
>> I've changed the -J-Xms1024m but boosting it up to 2048 like I did
>> for NB
>> 8.2 which works without issues. NB 10 and 11 LOCKS UP after a while
>> and have to close it with Task Manager.
>>
>> I click Garbage collection and the number stays around 748/1024.
>>
>> I’m concerned that I can't use the best of NB 10 and 11 but cannot. I
>> have to revert back to using 8.2 since 10 and 11 are not stable...
>>
>> ANY SUGGESTIONS would be greatly appreciated. I've been using NB
>> since 2013. My company is pushing me to use InteliJ and Eclipse, both which SUCK!
>>
>> Thoughts, please?
>>
>> netbeans_default_options="-J-XX:+UseStringDeduplication -J-Xss2m
>> -J-Xms1024m -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2
>> -J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true
>> -J-Dapple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz=true -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true
>> -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=true -J-Dsun.zip.disableMemoryMapping=true
>> -J-Dplugin.manager.check.updates=false
>> -J-Dnetbeans.extbrowser.manual_chrome_plugin_install=yes
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.net <http://java.net> <http://java.net> =ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang.ref=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.security=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.prefs/java.util.prefs=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=jdk.jshell/jdk.jshell=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-modules=jdk.jshell
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/java.awt.peer=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.beans.editors=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.im <http://sun.awt.im> <http://sun.awt.im> =ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=jdk.internal.jvmstat/sun.jvmstat.monitor=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.management/sun.management=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.base/sun.reflect.annotation=ALL-UNNAMED
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>> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> <mailto:netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> >
>> Subject: Re: testing done?
>>
>> Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
>>
>> Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has
>> been done.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> <mailto:geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> > > wrote:
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>>> Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is
>>> gone, that's why I'm asking.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
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RE: testing done?
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
Here’s a screen shot of the cropperjs error that’s “not” an error but I think an anomaly.
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Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:57 PM
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Subject: Re: testing done?
Are you aware you can exclude complete folders from being scanned by NetBeans, which could speed parsing up a lot? See the Files section in the Miscellaneous tab of the Options window.
Gj
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 20:36, <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > wrote:
Geertjan,
First we have a number of components and services written by our team in India. What’s huge is that number. There are over 15,000 objects saved in git not including the node_modules folder.
Some of these files are over 2500 lines, some as little as 50.
Just to let you know, when I run compodoc (an npm library for documentation of Angular projects) it crashes due to memory problems but this is a known issue with Compodoc and Vincent the creator of the library is addressing this.
There are over 200 folders in the hierarchal structure…
They are all .ts, .spec.ts, .scss, .html in most of the folders.
That’s what I mean by huge.
Hope this helps
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Subject: Re: testing done?
They are huge, with what, exactly? What is it that is huge? The number of files written by you yourself? The number of lines of code per file? The number of JavaScript libraries downloaded by your framework? So, great, your projects are huge, but in what way, exactly?
Gj
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 17:18, <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > > wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, but how do I make a Head Dump?
I'm running Node JS, Angular 5 and 7 on different projects and THEY ARE HUGE.
My home projects a minimalist and my work projects are MASSIVE...
That "may" be the issues. Also, I only run 1 or 2 projects in my project group as keeping ALL open will really clog up the plumbing
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Subject: Re: testing done?
Well it would be good to know which modules are you using, like you are developing some UI with Nod JS.
Also you could make some heapdump if you feel the slowness. ore even before and after that.
A sample project and steps to follow to reproduce the issue.
More details the better.
On 3/28/19 8:51 AM, peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > wrote:
> I use WIN 10 PRO on all my machines.
>
> My home system is a 2 TB drive, not SSD, my work computer is a 250 GB SSD drive.
>
> My home system NB 10 seems to be "stable" for now... better than my work computer.
>
> My Work computer has CARBON BLACK for the Anti-virus and I'm VPN to my corporate network through my home network.
>
> My home system uses Trend Micro Titanium for Anti-virus.
>
> The slowness is more on my work system (ACER LAPTOP) and my home computer is a 2 year old HP Pavilion Desktop with 16 GB memory.
>
> My work computer (ACER LAPTOP) has only 8 GB memory.
>
> Whatever else you need, I'll send.
>
> Thank you
>
>
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> To: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> >
> Cc: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid <mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid <ma...@googlemail.com.invalid> > >; joe
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> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
> Well, let’s start by understanding your environment. Which operating system are you on? Which JDK?
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 15:30, <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > > wrote:
>
>> Also, when I click SAVE, it takes forever or not at all and I have to
>> KILL NBs.
>>
>> I'm running NB's on a 250 gb SSD Drive so there's NO excuse for this
>> not working. I don't understand, people.
>>
>> Please advise because 10 and 11 for me are NOT reliable.
>>
>>
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>> To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> > >;
>> 'joe schmo' <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> <mailto:geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> > >
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>> Subject: RE: testing done?
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I'm experiencing a lag when using NB 10. I format and get a message,
>> "it's taking too long..."
>>
>> Scrolling is DELAYED... 1 - 3s...
>>
>> I've changed the -J-Xms1024m but boosting it up to 2048 like I did
>> for NB
>> 8.2 which works without issues. NB 10 and 11 LOCKS UP after a while
>> and have to close it with Task Manager.
>>
>> I click Garbage collection and the number stays around 748/1024.
>>
>> I’m concerned that I can't use the best of NB 10 and 11 but cannot. I
>> have to revert back to using 8.2 since 10 and 11 are not stable...
>>
>> ANY SUGGESTIONS would be greatly appreciated. I've been using NB
>> since 2013. My company is pushing me to use InteliJ and Eclipse, both which SUCK!
>>
>> Thoughts, please?
>>
>> netbeans_default_options="-J-XX:+UseStringDeduplication -J-Xss2m
>> -J-Xms1024m -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2
>> -J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true
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>> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> <mailto:netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> >
>> Subject: Re: testing done?
>>
>> Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
>>
>> Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has
>> been done.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> <mailto:geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> > > wrote:
>>
>>> Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is
>>> gone, that's why I'm asking.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
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RE: testing done?
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
Yes, exactly. I do that with git ignore… git-->ignore and then git-->exclude from commit, but I think you’re stating that I can exclude entire folders from being scanned away from git?
That would be fantastic… I’ll check it out and no, I didn’t know that.
I’ll keep you posted.
Thank you
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Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:57 PM
To: peter@webparity.net
Cc: Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>; netcat@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: testing done?
Are you aware you can exclude complete folders from being scanned by NetBeans, which could speed parsing up a lot? See the Files section in the Miscellaneous tab of the Options window.
Gj
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 20:36, <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > wrote:
Geertjan,
First we have a number of components and services written by our team in India. What’s huge is that number. There are over 15,000 objects saved in git not including the node_modules folder.
Some of these files are over 2500 lines, some as little as 50.
Just to let you know, when I run compodoc (an npm library for documentation of Angular projects) it crashes due to memory problems but this is a known issue with Compodoc and Vincent the creator of the library is addressing this.
There are over 200 folders in the hierarchal structure…
They are all .ts, .spec.ts, .scss, .html in most of the folders.
That’s what I mean by huge.
Hope this helps
Peter Borreggine
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Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:25 PM
To: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net>
Cc: Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> >; netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: testing done?
They are huge, with what, exactly? What is it that is huge? The number of files written by you yourself? The number of lines of code per file? The number of JavaScript libraries downloaded by your framework? So, great, your projects are huge, but in what way, exactly?
Gj
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 17:18, <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > > wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, but how do I make a Head Dump?
I'm running Node JS, Angular 5 and 7 on different projects and THEY ARE HUGE.
My home projects a minimalist and my work projects are MASSIVE...
That "may" be the issues. Also, I only run 1 or 2 projects in my project group as keeping ALL open will really clog up the plumbing
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Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:03 AM
To: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> <mailto:netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> >
Subject: Re: testing done?
Well it would be good to know which modules are you using, like you are developing some UI with Nod JS.
Also you could make some heapdump if you feel the slowness. ore even before and after that.
A sample project and steps to follow to reproduce the issue.
More details the better.
On 3/28/19 8:51 AM, peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > wrote:
> I use WIN 10 PRO on all my machines.
>
> My home system is a 2 TB drive, not SSD, my work computer is a 250 GB SSD drive.
>
> My home system NB 10 seems to be "stable" for now... better than my work computer.
>
> My Work computer has CARBON BLACK for the Anti-virus and I'm VPN to my corporate network through my home network.
>
> My home system uses Trend Micro Titanium for Anti-virus.
>
> The slowness is more on my work system (ACER LAPTOP) and my home computer is a 2 year old HP Pavilion Desktop with 16 GB memory.
>
> My work computer (ACER LAPTOP) has only 8 GB memory.
>
> Whatever else you need, I'll send.
>
> Thank you
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
> Owner and Developer
> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
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>
> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> > >
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:35 AM
> To: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> >
> Cc: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid <mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid <ma...@googlemail.com.invalid> > >; joe
> schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> <mailto:geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> > >; netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> <mailto:netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> >
> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
> Well, let’s start by understanding your environment. Which operating system are you on? Which JDK?
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 15:30, <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > > wrote:
>
>> Also, when I click SAVE, it takes forever or not at all and I have to
>> KILL NBs.
>>
>> I'm running NB's on a 250 gb SSD Drive so there's NO excuse for this
>> not working. I don't understand, people.
>>
>> Please advise because 10 and 11 for me are NOT reliable.
>>
>>
>> Peter Borreggine
>> Owner and Developer
>> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
>> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
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>> 360-830-8926 C
>>
>> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
>> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > >
>> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 7:25 AM
>> To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> > >;
>> 'joe schmo' <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> <mailto:geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> > >
>> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> <mailto:netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> >
>> Subject: RE: testing done?
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I'm experiencing a lag when using NB 10. I format and get a message,
>> "it's taking too long..."
>>
>> Scrolling is DELAYED... 1 - 3s...
>>
>> I've changed the -J-Xms1024m but boosting it up to 2048 like I did
>> for NB
>> 8.2 which works without issues. NB 10 and 11 LOCKS UP after a while
>> and have to close it with Task Manager.
>>
>> I click Garbage collection and the number stays around 748/1024.
>>
>> I’m concerned that I can't use the best of NB 10 and 11 but cannot. I
>> have to revert back to using 8.2 since 10 and 11 are not stable...
>>
>> ANY SUGGESTIONS would be greatly appreciated. I've been using NB
>> since 2013. My company is pushing me to use InteliJ and Eclipse, both which SUCK!
>>
>> Thoughts, please?
>>
>> netbeans_default_options="-J-XX:+UseStringDeduplication -J-Xss2m
>> -J-Xms1024m -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2
>> -J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true
>> -J-Dapple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz=true -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true
>> -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=true -J-Dsun.zip.disableMemoryMapping=true
>> -J-Dplugin.manager.check.updates=false
>> -J-Dnetbeans.extbrowser.manual_chrome_plugin_install=yes
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.net <http://java.net> <http://java.net> =ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang.ref=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.security=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.prefs/java.util.prefs=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=jdk.jshell/jdk.jshell=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-modules=jdk.jshell
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/java.awt.peer=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.beans.editors=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.im <http://sun.awt.im> <http://sun.awt.im> =ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=jdk.internal.jvmstat/sun.jvmstat.monitor=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.management/sun.management=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.base/sun.reflect.annotation=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=jdk.javadoc/com.sun.tools.javadoc.main=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J-XX:+IgnoreUnrecognizedVMOptions --fontsize 18"
>>
>>
>> Peter Borreggine
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>> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
>> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
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>> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> > >
>> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 11:26 PM
>> To: joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> <ma...@hotmail.com> >
>> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> <mailto:netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> >
>> Subject: Re: testing done?
>>
>> Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
>>
>> Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has
>> been done.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> <mailto:geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> > > wrote:
>>
>>> Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is
>>> gone, that's why I'm asking.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>
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RE: testing done?
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
All, congrats on NB 11 but my continuing problem with NB 10 is that it lags, when I click save, it LOCKS UP and I have to kill the process with Task Manager. This is frustrating. Why is this happening? CONTINUALLY!
It’s NOT RELIABLE!
What is the solution, please?
I’m trying to push this to my company where the offshore team loves Notepad ++ and VSCODE.
I’m finding things wrong with their code that is NOT caught by the aforementioned other IDE’s
Please advise!
Peter Borreggine
Owner and Developer
Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web Design/SEO
WebParity.net <http://webparity.net/>
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360-830-8926 C
“Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
* Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
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From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:57 PM
To: peter@webparity.net
Cc: Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>; netcat@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: testing done?
Are you aware you can exclude complete folders from being scanned by NetBeans, which could speed parsing up a lot? See the Files section in the Miscellaneous tab of the Options window.
Gj
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 20:36, <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > wrote:
Geertjan,
First we have a number of components and services written by our team in India. What’s huge is that number. There are over 15,000 objects saved in git not including the node_modules folder.
Some of these files are over 2500 lines, some as little as 50.
Just to let you know, when I run compodoc (an npm library for documentation of Angular projects) it crashes due to memory problems but this is a known issue with Compodoc and Vincent the creator of the library is addressing this.
There are over 200 folders in the hierarchal structure…
They are all .ts, .spec.ts, .scss, .html in most of the folders.
That’s what I mean by huge.
Hope this helps
Peter Borreggine
Owner and Developer
Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web Design/SEO
WebParity.net <http://webparity.net/>
A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned Business
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360-830-8926 C
“Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
* Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
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From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com <ma...@googlemail.com> >
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:25 PM
To: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net>
Cc: Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> >; netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: testing done?
They are huge, with what, exactly? What is it that is huge? The number of files written by you yourself? The number of lines of code per file? The number of JavaScript libraries downloaded by your framework? So, great, your projects are huge, but in what way, exactly?
Gj
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 17:18, <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > > wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, but how do I make a Head Dump?
I'm running Node JS, Angular 5 and 7 on different projects and THEY ARE HUGE.
My home projects a minimalist and my work projects are MASSIVE...
That "may" be the issues. Also, I only run 1 or 2 projects in my project group as keeping ALL open will really clog up the plumbing
Peter Borreggine
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WebParity.net
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-----Original Message-----
From: Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> <mailto:laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> > >
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:03 AM
To: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> <mailto:netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> >
Subject: Re: testing done?
Well it would be good to know which modules are you using, like you are developing some UI with Nod JS.
Also you could make some heapdump if you feel the slowness. ore even before and after that.
A sample project and steps to follow to reproduce the issue.
More details the better.
On 3/28/19 8:51 AM, peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > wrote:
> I use WIN 10 PRO on all my machines.
>
> My home system is a 2 TB drive, not SSD, my work computer is a 250 GB SSD drive.
>
> My home system NB 10 seems to be "stable" for now... better than my work computer.
>
> My Work computer has CARBON BLACK for the Anti-virus and I'm VPN to my corporate network through my home network.
>
> My home system uses Trend Micro Titanium for Anti-virus.
>
> The slowness is more on my work system (ACER LAPTOP) and my home computer is a 2 year old HP Pavilion Desktop with 16 GB memory.
>
> My work computer (ACER LAPTOP) has only 8 GB memory.
>
> Whatever else you need, I'll send.
>
> Thank you
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
> Owner and Developer
> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
> Business WA State License: 603-501-609
> 360-830-8926 C
>
> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>
> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the original message and its attachments. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> > >
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:35 AM
> To: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> >
> Cc: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid <mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid <ma...@googlemail.com.invalid> > >; joe
> schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> <mailto:geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> > >; netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> <mailto:netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> >
> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
> Well, let’s start by understanding your environment. Which operating system are you on? Which JDK?
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 15:30, <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > > wrote:
>
>> Also, when I click SAVE, it takes forever or not at all and I have to
>> KILL NBs.
>>
>> I'm running NB's on a 250 gb SSD Drive so there's NO excuse for this
>> not working. I don't understand, people.
>>
>> Please advise because 10 and 11 for me are NOT reliable.
>>
>>
>> Peter Borreggine
>> Owner and Developer
>> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
>> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
>> Business WA State License: 603-501-609
>> 360-830-8926 C
>>
>> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
>> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>>
>> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s)
>> and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are
>> not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all
>> copies of the original message and its attachments. Any unauthorized
>> review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <mailto:peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > >
>> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 7:25 AM
>> To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <mailto:geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> > >;
>> 'joe schmo' <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> <mailto:geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> > >
>> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> <mailto:netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> >
>> Subject: RE: testing done?
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I'm experiencing a lag when using NB 10. I format and get a message,
>> "it's taking too long..."
>>
>> Scrolling is DELAYED... 1 - 3s...
>>
>> I've changed the -J-Xms1024m but boosting it up to 2048 like I did
>> for NB
>> 8.2 which works without issues. NB 10 and 11 LOCKS UP after a while
>> and have to close it with Task Manager.
>>
>> I click Garbage collection and the number stays around 748/1024.
>>
>> I’m concerned that I can't use the best of NB 10 and 11 but cannot. I
>> have to revert back to using 8.2 since 10 and 11 are not stable...
>>
>> ANY SUGGESTIONS would be greatly appreciated. I've been using NB
>> since 2013. My company is pushing me to use InteliJ and Eclipse, both which SUCK!
>>
>> Thoughts, please?
>>
>> netbeans_default_options="-J-XX:+UseStringDeduplication -J-Xss2m
>> -J-Xms1024m -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2
>> -J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true
>> -J-Dapple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz=true -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true
>> -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=true -J-Dsun.zip.disableMemoryMapping=true
>> -J-Dplugin.manager.check.updates=false
>> -J-Dnetbeans.extbrowser.manual_chrome_plugin_install=yes
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.net <http://java.net> <http://java.net> =ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang.ref=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.security=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.prefs/java.util.prefs=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=jdk.jshell/jdk.jshell=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-modules=jdk.jshell
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/java.awt.peer=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.beans.editors=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.im <http://sun.awt.im> <http://sun.awt.im> =ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=jdk.internal.jvmstat/sun.jvmstat.monitor=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.management/sun.management=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.base/sun.reflect.annotation=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=jdk.javadoc/com.sun.tools.javadoc.main=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J-XX:+IgnoreUnrecognizedVMOptions --fontsize 18"
>>
>>
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>> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 11:26 PM
>> To: joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> <mailto:geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> > >
>> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> <mailto:netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org> >
>> Subject: Re: testing done?
>>
>> Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
>>
>> Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has
>> been done.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> <mailto:geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> > > wrote:
>>
>>> Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is
>>> gone, that's why I'm asking.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
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Re: testing done?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Are you aware you can exclude complete folders from being scanned by
NetBeans, which could speed parsing up a lot? See the Files section in the
Miscellaneous tab of the Options window.
Gj
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 20:36, <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
> Geertjan,
>
>
>
> First we have a number of components and services written by our team in
> India. What’s huge is that number. There are over 15,000 objects saved in
> git not including the node_modules folder.
>
>
>
> Some of these files are over 2500 lines, some as little as 50.
>
>
>
> Just to let you know, when I run compodoc (an npm library for
> documentation of Angular projects) it crashes due to memory problems but
> this is a known issue with Compodoc and Vincent the creator of the library
> is addressing this.
>
>
>
> There are over 200 folders in the hierarchal structure…
>
>
>
> They are all .ts, .spec.ts, .scss, .html in most of the folders.
>
>
>
> That’s what I mean by huge.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps
>
>
>
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
>
> Owner and Developer
>
> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web Design/SEO
>
> WebParity.net <http://webparity.net/>
>
> A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned Business
>
> WA State License: 603-501-609
>
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>
>
>
> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
>
> * Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>
>
>
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>
> From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:25 PM
> To: peter@webparity.net
> Cc: Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>;
> netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
>
>
> They are huge, with what, exactly? What is it that is huge? The number of
> files written by you yourself? The number of lines of code per file? The
> number of JavaScript libraries downloaded by your framework? So, great,
> your projects are huge, but in what way, exactly?
>
>
>
> Gj
>
>
>
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 17:18, <peter@webparity.net <mailto:
> peter@webparity.net> > wrote:
>
> Forgive my ignorance, but how do I make a Head Dump?
>
> I'm running Node JS, Angular 5 and 7 on different projects and THEY ARE
> HUGE.
>
> My home projects a minimalist and my work projects are MASSIVE...
>
> That "may" be the issues. Also, I only run 1 or 2 projects in my project
> group as keeping ALL open will really clog up the plumbing
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
> Owner and Developer
> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web Design/SEO
> WebParity.net
> A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned Business
> WA State License: 603-501-609
> 360-830-8926 C
>
> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>
> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and
> may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the
> intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com <mailto:
> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> >
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:03 AM
> To: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
> Well it would be good to know which modules are you using, like you are
> developing some UI with Nod JS.
>
> Also you could make some heapdump if you feel the slowness. ore even
> before and after that.
>
> A sample project and steps to follow to reproduce the issue.
>
> More details the better.
>
> On 3/28/19 8:51 AM, peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net>
> wrote:
> > I use WIN 10 PRO on all my machines.
> >
> > My home system is a 2 TB drive, not SSD, my work computer is a 250 GB
> SSD drive.
> >
> > My home system NB 10 seems to be "stable" for now... better than my work
> computer.
> >
> > My Work computer has CARBON BLACK for the Anti-virus and I'm VPN to my
> corporate network through my home network.
> >
> > My home system uses Trend Micro Titanium for Anti-virus.
> >
> > The slowness is more on my work system (ACER LAPTOP) and my home
> computer is a 2 year old HP Pavilion Desktop with 16 GB memory.
> >
> > My work computer (ACER LAPTOP) has only 8 GB memory.
> >
> > Whatever else you need, I'll send.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> >
> > Peter Borreggine
> > Owner and Developer
> > Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> > Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
> > Business WA State License: 603-501-609
> > 360-830-8926 C
> >
> > “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> > - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID
> <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> >
> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:35 AM
> > To: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net>
> > Cc: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid <mailto:
> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid> >; joe
> > schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> >;
> netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: testing done?
> >
> > Well, let’s start by understanding your environment. Which operating
> system are you on? Which JDK?
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 15:30, <peter@webparity.net <mailto:
> peter@webparity.net> > wrote:
> >
> >> Also, when I click SAVE, it takes forever or not at all and I have to
> >> KILL NBs.
> >>
> >> I'm running NB's on a 250 gb SSD Drive so there's NO excuse for this
> >> not working. I don't understand, people.
> >>
> >> Please advise because 10 and 11 for me are NOT reliable.
> >>
> >>
> >> Peter Borreggine
> >> Owner and Developer
> >> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> >> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
> >> Business WA State License: 603-501-609
> >> 360-830-8926 C
> >>
> >> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> >> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
> >>
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> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <
> peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> >
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 7:25 AM
> >> To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID
> <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> >;
> >> 'joe schmo' <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> >
> >> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> >> Subject: RE: testing done?
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> I'm experiencing a lag when using NB 10. I format and get a message,
> >> "it's taking too long..."
> >>
> >> Scrolling is DELAYED... 1 - 3s...
> >>
> >> I've changed the -J-Xms1024m but boosting it up to 2048 like I did
> >> for NB
> >> 8.2 which works without issues. NB 10 and 11 LOCKS UP after a while
> >> and have to close it with Task Manager.
> >>
> >> I click Garbage collection and the number stays around 748/1024.
> >>
> >> I’m concerned that I can't use the best of NB 10 and 11 but cannot. I
> >> have to revert back to using 8.2 since 10 and 11 are not stable...
> >>
> >> ANY SUGGESTIONS would be greatly appreciated. I've been using NB
> >> since 2013. My company is pushing me to use InteliJ and Eclipse, both
> which SUCK!
> >>
> >> Thoughts, please?
> >>
> >> netbeans_default_options="-J-XX:+UseStringDeduplication -J-Xss2m
> >> -J-Xms1024m -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2
> >> -J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true
> >> -J-Dapple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz=true -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true
> >> -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=true -J-Dsun.zip.disableMemoryMapping=true
> >> -J-Dplugin.manager.check.updates=false
> >> -J-Dnetbeans.extbrowser.manual_chrome_plugin_install=yes
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.net <http://java.net> =ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang.ref=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.security=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.prefs/java.util.prefs=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=jdk.jshell/jdk.jshell=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-modules=jdk.jshell
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/java.awt.peer=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.beans.editors=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.im <http://sun.awt.im>
> =ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=jdk.internal.jvmstat/sun.jvmstat.monitor=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.management/sun.management=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.base/sun.reflect.annotation=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=jdk.javadoc/com.sun.tools.javadoc.main=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J-XX:+IgnoreUnrecognizedVMOptions --fontsize 18"
> >>
> >>
> >> Peter Borreggine
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> >> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
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> >> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
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> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID
> <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> >
> >> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 11:26 PM
> >> To: joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com>
> >
> >> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> >> Subject: Re: testing done?
> >>
> >> Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
> >>
> >> Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has
> >> been done.
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com
> <ma...@hotmail.com> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is
> >>> gone, that's why I'm asking.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
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RE: testing done?
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
Geertjan,
First we have a number of components and services written by our team in India. What’s huge is that number. There are over 15,000 objects saved in git not including the node_modules folder.
Some of these files are over 2500 lines, some as little as 50.
Just to let you know, when I run compodoc (an npm library for documentation of Angular projects) it crashes due to memory problems but this is a known issue with Compodoc and Vincent the creator of the library is addressing this.
There are over 200 folders in the hierarchal structure…
They are all .ts, .spec.ts, .scss, .html in most of the folders.
That’s what I mean by huge.
Hope this helps
Peter Borreggine
Owner and Developer
Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web Design/SEO
WebParity.net <http://webparity.net/>
A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned Business
WA State License: 603-501-609
360-830-8926 C
“Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
* Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the original message and its attachments. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 12:25 PM
To: peter@webparity.net
Cc: Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>; netcat@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: testing done?
They are huge, with what, exactly? What is it that is huge? The number of files written by you yourself? The number of lines of code per file? The number of JavaScript libraries downloaded by your framework? So, great, your projects are huge, but in what way, exactly?
Gj
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 17:18, <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, but how do I make a Head Dump?
I'm running Node JS, Angular 5 and 7 on different projects and THEY ARE HUGE.
My home projects a minimalist and my work projects are MASSIVE...
That "may" be the issues. Also, I only run 1 or 2 projects in my project group as keeping ALL open will really clog up the plumbing
Peter Borreggine
Owner and Developer
Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web Design/SEO
WebParity.net
A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned Business
WA State License: 603-501-609
360-830-8926 C
“Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
- Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the original message and its attachments. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
-----Original Message-----
From: Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:03 AM
To: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: testing done?
Well it would be good to know which modules are you using, like you are developing some UI with Nod JS.
Also you could make some heapdump if you feel the slowness. ore even before and after that.
A sample project and steps to follow to reproduce the issue.
More details the better.
On 3/28/19 8:51 AM, peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> wrote:
> I use WIN 10 PRO on all my machines.
>
> My home system is a 2 TB drive, not SSD, my work computer is a 250 GB SSD drive.
>
> My home system NB 10 seems to be "stable" for now... better than my work computer.
>
> My Work computer has CARBON BLACK for the Anti-virus and I'm VPN to my corporate network through my home network.
>
> My home system uses Trend Micro Titanium for Anti-virus.
>
> The slowness is more on my work system (ACER LAPTOP) and my home computer is a 2 year old HP Pavilion Desktop with 16 GB memory.
>
> My work computer (ACER LAPTOP) has only 8 GB memory.
>
> Whatever else you need, I'll send.
>
> Thank you
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
> Owner and Developer
> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
> Business WA State License: 603-501-609
> 360-830-8926 C
>
> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>
> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the original message and its attachments. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> >
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:35 AM
> To: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net>
> Cc: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.invalid <ma...@googlemail.com.invalid> >; joe
> schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> >; netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
> Well, let’s start by understanding your environment. Which operating system are you on? Which JDK?
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 15:30, <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> > wrote:
>
>> Also, when I click SAVE, it takes forever or not at all and I have to
>> KILL NBs.
>>
>> I'm running NB's on a 250 gb SSD Drive so there's NO excuse for this
>> not working. I don't understand, people.
>>
>> Please advise because 10 and 11 for me are NOT reliable.
>>
>>
>> Peter Borreggine
>> Owner and Developer
>> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
>> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
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>> 360-830-8926 C
>>
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>> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
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>> From: peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> <peter@webparity.net <ma...@webparity.net> >
>> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 7:25 AM
>> To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> >;
>> 'joe schmo' <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> >
>> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
>> Subject: RE: testing done?
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I'm experiencing a lag when using NB 10. I format and get a message,
>> "it's taking too long..."
>>
>> Scrolling is DELAYED... 1 - 3s...
>>
>> I've changed the -J-Xms1024m but boosting it up to 2048 like I did
>> for NB
>> 8.2 which works without issues. NB 10 and 11 LOCKS UP after a while
>> and have to close it with Task Manager.
>>
>> I click Garbage collection and the number stays around 748/1024.
>>
>> I’m concerned that I can't use the best of NB 10 and 11 but cannot. I
>> have to revert back to using 8.2 since 10 and 11 are not stable...
>>
>> ANY SUGGESTIONS would be greatly appreciated. I've been using NB
>> since 2013. My company is pushing me to use InteliJ and Eclipse, both which SUCK!
>>
>> Thoughts, please?
>>
>> netbeans_default_options="-J-XX:+UseStringDeduplication -J-Xss2m
>> -J-Xms1024m -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2
>> -J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true
>> -J-Dapple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz=true -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true
>> -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=true -J-Dsun.zip.disableMemoryMapping=true
>> -J-Dplugin.manager.check.updates=false
>> -J-Dnetbeans.extbrowser.manual_chrome_plugin_install=yes
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.net <http://java.net> =ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang.ref=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.security=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.prefs/java.util.prefs=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=jdk.jshell/jdk.jshell=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-modules=jdk.jshell
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/java.awt.peer=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.beans.editors=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.im <http://sun.awt.im> =ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=jdk.internal.jvmstat/sun.jvmstat.monitor=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.management/sun.management=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.base/sun.reflect.annotation=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=jdk.javadoc/com.sun.tools.javadoc.main=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J-XX:+IgnoreUnrecognizedVMOptions --fontsize 18"
>>
>>
>> Peter Borreggine
>> Owner and Developer
>> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
>> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
>> Business WA State
>> License: 603-501-609
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>> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID <ma...@googlemail.com.INVALID> >
>> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 11:26 PM
>> To: joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> >
>> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org <ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: testing done?
>>
>> Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
>>
>> Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has
>> been done.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com <ma...@hotmail.com> > wrote:
>>
>>> Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is
>>> gone, that's why I'm asking.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>
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Re: testing done?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
They are huge, with what, exactly? What is it that is huge? The number of
files written by you yourself? The number of lines of code per file? The
number of JavaScript libraries downloaded by your framework? So, great,
your projects are huge, but in what way, exactly?
Gj
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 17:18, <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
> Forgive my ignorance, but how do I make a Head Dump?
>
> I'm running Node JS, Angular 5 and 7 on different projects and THEY ARE
> HUGE.
>
> My home projects a minimalist and my work projects are MASSIVE...
>
> That "may" be the issues. Also, I only run 1 or 2 projects in my project
> group as keeping ALL open will really clog up the plumbing
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
> Owner and Developer
> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web Design/SEO
> WebParity.net
> A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned Business
> WA State License: 603-501-609
> 360-830-8926 C
>
> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>
> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and
> may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the
> intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the
> original message and its attachments. Any unauthorized review, use,
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:03 AM
> To: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
> Well it would be good to know which modules are you using, like you are
> developing some UI with Nod JS.
>
> Also you could make some heapdump if you feel the slowness. ore even
> before and after that.
>
> A sample project and steps to follow to reproduce the issue.
>
> More details the better.
>
> On 3/28/19 8:51 AM, peter@webparity.net wrote:
> > I use WIN 10 PRO on all my machines.
> >
> > My home system is a 2 TB drive, not SSD, my work computer is a 250 GB
> SSD drive.
> >
> > My home system NB 10 seems to be "stable" for now... better than my work
> computer.
> >
> > My Work computer has CARBON BLACK for the Anti-virus and I'm VPN to my
> corporate network through my home network.
> >
> > My home system uses Trend Micro Titanium for Anti-virus.
> >
> > The slowness is more on my work system (ACER LAPTOP) and my home
> computer is a 2 year old HP Pavilion Desktop with 16 GB memory.
> >
> > My work computer (ACER LAPTOP) has only 8 GB memory.
> >
> > Whatever else you need, I'll send.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> >
> > Peter Borreggine
> > Owner and Developer
> > Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> > Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
> > Business WA State License: 603-501-609
> > 360-830-8926 C
> >
> > “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> > - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
> >
> > This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and
> may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the
> intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the
> original message and its attachments. Any unauthorized review, use,
> disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:35 AM
> > To: peter@webparity.net
> > Cc: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid>; joe
> > schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>; netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: testing done?
> >
> > Well, let’s start by understanding your environment. Which operating
> system are you on? Which JDK?
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 15:30, <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Also, when I click SAVE, it takes forever or not at all and I have to
> >> KILL NBs.
> >>
> >> I'm running NB's on a 250 gb SSD Drive so there's NO excuse for this
> >> not working. I don't understand, people.
> >>
> >> Please advise because 10 and 11 for me are NOT reliable.
> >>
> >>
> >> Peter Borreggine
> >> Owner and Developer
> >> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> >> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
> >> Business WA State License: 603-501-609
> >> 360-830-8926 C
> >>
> >> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> >> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
> >>
> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s)
> >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are
> >> not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all
> >> copies of the original message and its attachments. Any unauthorized
> >> review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: peter@webparity.net <pe...@webparity.net>
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 7:25 AM
> >> To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>;
> >> 'joe schmo' <ge...@hotmail.com>
> >> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> >> Subject: RE: testing done?
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> I'm experiencing a lag when using NB 10. I format and get a message,
> >> "it's taking too long..."
> >>
> >> Scrolling is DELAYED... 1 - 3s...
> >>
> >> I've changed the -J-Xms1024m but boosting it up to 2048 like I did
> >> for NB
> >> 8.2 which works without issues. NB 10 and 11 LOCKS UP after a while
> >> and have to close it with Task Manager.
> >>
> >> I click Garbage collection and the number stays around 748/1024.
> >>
> >> I’m concerned that I can't use the best of NB 10 and 11 but cannot. I
> >> have to revert back to using 8.2 since 10 and 11 are not stable...
> >>
> >> ANY SUGGESTIONS would be greatly appreciated. I've been using NB
> >> since 2013. My company is pushing me to use InteliJ and Eclipse, both
> which SUCK!
> >>
> >> Thoughts, please?
> >>
> >> netbeans_default_options="-J-XX:+UseStringDeduplication -J-Xss2m
> >> -J-Xms1024m -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2
> >> -J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true
> >> -J-Dapple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz=true -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true
> >> -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=true -J-Dsun.zip.disableMemoryMapping=true
> >> -J-Dplugin.manager.check.updates=false
> >> -J-Dnetbeans.extbrowser.manual_chrome_plugin_install=yes
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.net=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang.ref=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.security=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=java.prefs/java.util.prefs=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-opens=jdk.jshell/jdk.jshell=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-modules=jdk.jshell
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/java.awt.peer=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.beans.editors=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.im=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=jdk.internal.jvmstat/sun.jvmstat.monitor=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.management/sun.management=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=java.base/sun.reflect.annotation=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J--add-exports=jdk.javadoc/com.sun.tools.javadoc.main=ALL-UNNAMED
> >> -J-XX:+IgnoreUnrecognizedVMOptions --fontsize 18"
> >>
> >>
> >> Peter Borreggine
> >> Owner and Developer
> >> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> >> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
> >> Business WA State
> >> License: 603-501-609
> >> 360-830-8926 C
> >>
> >> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> >> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
> >>
> >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s)
> >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are
> >> not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all
> >> copies of the original message and its attachments. Any unauthorized
> >> review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
> >> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 11:26 PM
> >> To: joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>
> >> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: testing done?
> >>
> >> Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
> >>
> >> Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has
> >> been done.
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is
> >>> gone, that's why I'm asking.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>
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RE: testing done?
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
Forgive my ignorance, but how do I make a Head Dump?
I'm running Node JS, Angular 5 and 7 on different projects and THEY ARE HUGE.
My home projects a minimalist and my work projects are MASSIVE...
That "may" be the issues. Also, I only run 1 or 2 projects in my project group as keeping ALL open will really clog up the plumbing
Peter Borreggine
Owner and Developer
Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web Design/SEO
WebParity.net
A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned Business
WA State License: 603-501-609
360-830-8926 C
“Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
- Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the original message and its attachments. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
-----Original Message-----
From: Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:03 AM
To: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: testing done?
Well it would be good to know which modules are you using, like you are developing some UI with Nod JS.
Also you could make some heapdump if you feel the slowness. ore even before and after that.
A sample project and steps to follow to reproduce the issue.
More details the better.
On 3/28/19 8:51 AM, peter@webparity.net wrote:
> I use WIN 10 PRO on all my machines.
>
> My home system is a 2 TB drive, not SSD, my work computer is a 250 GB SSD drive.
>
> My home system NB 10 seems to be "stable" for now... better than my work computer.
>
> My Work computer has CARBON BLACK for the Anti-virus and I'm VPN to my corporate network through my home network.
>
> My home system uses Trend Micro Titanium for Anti-virus.
>
> The slowness is more on my work system (ACER LAPTOP) and my home computer is a 2 year old HP Pavilion Desktop with 16 GB memory.
>
> My work computer (ACER LAPTOP) has only 8 GB memory.
>
> Whatever else you need, I'll send.
>
> Thank you
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
> Owner and Developer
> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
> Business WA State License: 603-501-609
> 360-830-8926 C
>
> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>
> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the original message and its attachments. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:35 AM
> To: peter@webparity.net
> Cc: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid>; joe
> schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>; netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
> Well, let’s start by understanding your environment. Which operating system are you on? Which JDK?
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 15:30, <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
>
>> Also, when I click SAVE, it takes forever or not at all and I have to
>> KILL NBs.
>>
>> I'm running NB's on a 250 gb SSD Drive so there's NO excuse for this
>> not working. I don't understand, people.
>>
>> Please advise because 10 and 11 for me are NOT reliable.
>>
>>
>> Peter Borreggine
>> Owner and Developer
>> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
>> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
>> Business WA State License: 603-501-609
>> 360-830-8926 C
>>
>> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
>> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>>
>> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s)
>> and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are
>> not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all
>> copies of the original message and its attachments. Any unauthorized
>> review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: peter@webparity.net <pe...@webparity.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 7:25 AM
>> To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>;
>> 'joe schmo' <ge...@hotmail.com>
>> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: testing done?
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I'm experiencing a lag when using NB 10. I format and get a message,
>> "it's taking too long..."
>>
>> Scrolling is DELAYED... 1 - 3s...
>>
>> I've changed the -J-Xms1024m but boosting it up to 2048 like I did
>> for NB
>> 8.2 which works without issues. NB 10 and 11 LOCKS UP after a while
>> and have to close it with Task Manager.
>>
>> I click Garbage collection and the number stays around 748/1024.
>>
>> I’m concerned that I can't use the best of NB 10 and 11 but cannot. I
>> have to revert back to using 8.2 since 10 and 11 are not stable...
>>
>> ANY SUGGESTIONS would be greatly appreciated. I've been using NB
>> since 2013. My company is pushing me to use InteliJ and Eclipse, both which SUCK!
>>
>> Thoughts, please?
>>
>> netbeans_default_options="-J-XX:+UseStringDeduplication -J-Xss2m
>> -J-Xms1024m -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2
>> -J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true
>> -J-Dapple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz=true -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true
>> -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=true -J-Dsun.zip.disableMemoryMapping=true
>> -J-Dplugin.manager.check.updates=false
>> -J-Dnetbeans.extbrowser.manual_chrome_plugin_install=yes
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.net=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang.ref=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.security=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.prefs/java.util.prefs=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=jdk.jshell/jdk.jshell=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-modules=jdk.jshell
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/java.awt.peer=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.beans.editors=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.im=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=jdk.internal.jvmstat/sun.jvmstat.monitor=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.management/sun.management=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.base/sun.reflect.annotation=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=jdk.javadoc/com.sun.tools.javadoc.main=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J-XX:+IgnoreUnrecognizedVMOptions --fontsize 18"
>>
>>
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>> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 11:26 PM
>> To: joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>
>> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: testing done?
>>
>> Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
>>
>> Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has
>> been done.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is
>>> gone, that's why I'm asking.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
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Re: testing done?
Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
Well it would be good to know which modules are you using, like you are
developing some UI with Nod JS.
Also you could make some heapdump if you feel the slowness. ore even
before and after that.
A sample project and steps to follow to reproduce the issue.
More details the better.
On 3/28/19 8:51 AM, peter@webparity.net wrote:
> I use WIN 10 PRO on all my machines.
>
> My home system is a 2 TB drive, not SSD, my work computer is a 250 GB SSD drive.
>
> My home system NB 10 seems to be "stable" for now... better than my work computer.
>
> My Work computer has CARBON BLACK for the Anti-virus and I'm VPN to my corporate network through my home network.
>
> My home system uses Trend Micro Titanium for Anti-virus.
>
> The slowness is more on my work system (ACER LAPTOP) and my home computer is a 2 year old HP Pavilion Desktop with 16 GB memory.
>
> My work computer (ACER LAPTOP) has only 8 GB memory.
>
> Whatever else you need, I'll send.
>
> Thank you
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
> Owner and Developer
> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web Design/SEO
> WebParity.net
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>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:35 AM
> To: peter@webparity.net
> Cc: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid>; joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>; netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
> Well, let’s start by understanding your environment. Which operating system are you on? Which JDK?
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 15:30, <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
>
>> Also, when I click SAVE, it takes forever or not at all and I have to
>> KILL NBs.
>>
>> I'm running NB's on a 250 gb SSD Drive so there's NO excuse for this
>> not working. I don't understand, people.
>>
>> Please advise because 10 and 11 for me are NOT reliable.
>>
>>
>> Peter Borreggine
>> Owner and Developer
>> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
>> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
>> Business WA State License: 603-501-609
>> 360-830-8926 C
>>
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>> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>>
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>> not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: peter@webparity.net <pe...@webparity.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 7:25 AM
>> To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>;
>> 'joe schmo' <ge...@hotmail.com>
>> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: testing done?
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I'm experiencing a lag when using NB 10. I format and get a message,
>> "it's taking too long..."
>>
>> Scrolling is DELAYED... 1 - 3s...
>>
>> I've changed the -J-Xms1024m but boosting it up to 2048 like I did for
>> NB
>> 8.2 which works without issues. NB 10 and 11 LOCKS UP after a while
>> and have to close it with Task Manager.
>>
>> I click Garbage collection and the number stays around 748/1024.
>>
>> I’m concerned that I can't use the best of NB 10 and 11 but cannot. I
>> have to revert back to using 8.2 since 10 and 11 are not stable...
>>
>> ANY SUGGESTIONS would be greatly appreciated. I've been using NB since
>> 2013. My company is pushing me to use InteliJ and Eclipse, both which SUCK!
>>
>> Thoughts, please?
>>
>> netbeans_default_options="-J-XX:+UseStringDeduplication -J-Xss2m
>> -J-Xms1024m -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2
>> -J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true
>> -J-Dapple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz=true -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true
>> -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=true -J-Dsun.zip.disableMemoryMapping=true
>> -J-Dplugin.manager.check.updates=false
>> -J-Dnetbeans.extbrowser.manual_chrome_plugin_install=yes
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.net=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang.ref=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.security=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=java.prefs/java.util.prefs=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-opens=jdk.jshell/jdk.jshell=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-modules=jdk.jshell
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/java.awt.peer=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.beans.editors=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.im=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=jdk.internal.jvmstat/sun.jvmstat.monitor=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.management/sun.management=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=java.base/sun.reflect.annotation=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J--add-exports=jdk.javadoc/com.sun.tools.javadoc.main=ALL-UNNAMED
>> -J-XX:+IgnoreUnrecognizedVMOptions --fontsize 18"
>>
>>
>> Peter Borreggine
>> Owner and Developer
>> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
>> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
>> Business WA State
>> License: 603-501-609
>> 360-830-8926 C
>>
>> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
>> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 11:26 PM
>> To: joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>
>> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: testing done?
>>
>> Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
>>
>> Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has
>> been done.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is
>>> gone, that's why I'm asking.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>
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RE: testing done?
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
I use WIN 10 PRO on all my machines.
My home system is a 2 TB drive, not SSD, my work computer is a 250 GB SSD drive.
My home system NB 10 seems to be "stable" for now... better than my work computer.
My Work computer has CARBON BLACK for the Anti-virus and I'm VPN to my corporate network through my home network.
My home system uses Trend Micro Titanium for Anti-virus.
The slowness is more on my work system (ACER LAPTOP) and my home computer is a 2 year old HP Pavilion Desktop with 16 GB memory.
My work computer (ACER LAPTOP) has only 8 GB memory.
Whatever else you need, I'll send.
Thank you
Peter Borreggine
Owner and Developer
Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web Design/SEO
WebParity.net
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From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:35 AM
To: peter@webparity.net
Cc: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.invalid>; joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>; netcat@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: testing done?
Well, let’s start by understanding your environment. Which operating system are you on? Which JDK?
Gj
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 15:30, <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
> Also, when I click SAVE, it takes forever or not at all and I have to
> KILL NBs.
>
> I'm running NB's on a 250 gb SSD Drive so there's NO excuse for this
> not working. I don't understand, people.
>
> Please advise because 10 and 11 for me are NOT reliable.
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
> Owner and Developer
> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
> Business WA State License: 603-501-609
> 360-830-8926 C
>
> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>
> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s)
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: peter@webparity.net <pe...@webparity.net>
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 7:25 AM
> To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>;
> 'joe schmo' <ge...@hotmail.com>
> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: RE: testing done?
>
> All,
>
> I'm experiencing a lag when using NB 10. I format and get a message,
> "it's taking too long..."
>
> Scrolling is DELAYED... 1 - 3s...
>
> I've changed the -J-Xms1024m but boosting it up to 2048 like I did for
> NB
> 8.2 which works without issues. NB 10 and 11 LOCKS UP after a while
> and have to close it with Task Manager.
>
> I click Garbage collection and the number stays around 748/1024.
>
> I’m concerned that I can't use the best of NB 10 and 11 but cannot. I
> have to revert back to using 8.2 since 10 and 11 are not stable...
>
> ANY SUGGESTIONS would be greatly appreciated. I've been using NB since
> 2013. My company is pushing me to use InteliJ and Eclipse, both which SUCK!
>
> Thoughts, please?
>
> netbeans_default_options="-J-XX:+UseStringDeduplication -J-Xss2m
> -J-Xms1024m -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2
> -J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true
> -J-Dapple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz=true -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true
> -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=true -J-Dsun.zip.disableMemoryMapping=true
> -J-Dplugin.manager.check.updates=false
> -J-Dnetbeans.extbrowser.manual_chrome_plugin_install=yes
> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.net=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang.ref=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.security=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.prefs/java.util.prefs=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=jdk.jshell/jdk.jshell=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-modules=jdk.jshell
> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/java.awt.peer=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.beans.editors=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.im=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-exports=jdk.internal.jvmstat/sun.jvmstat.monitor=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-exports=java.management/sun.management=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-exports=java.base/sun.reflect.annotation=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-exports=jdk.javadoc/com.sun.tools.javadoc.main=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J-XX:+IgnoreUnrecognizedVMOptions --fontsize 18"
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
> Owner and Developer
> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web
> Design/SEO WebParity.net A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned
> Business WA State
> License: 603-501-609
> 360-830-8926 C
>
> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 11:26 PM
> To: joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>
> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
> Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
>
> Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has
> been done.
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is
> > gone, that's why I'm asking.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
>
>
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Re: testing done?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Well, let’s start by understanding your environment. Which operating system
are you on? Which JDK?
Gj
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 15:30, <pe...@webparity.net> wrote:
> Also, when I click SAVE, it takes forever or not at all and I have to KILL
> NBs.
>
> I'm running NB's on a 250 gb SSD Drive so there's NO excuse for this not
> working. I don't understand, people.
>
> Please advise because 10 and 11 for me are NOT reliable.
>
>
> Peter Borreggine
> Owner and Developer
> Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web Design/SEO
> WebParity.net
> A Service Connected Disabled Veteran Owned Business
> WA State License: 603-501-609
> 360-830-8926 C
>
> “Lead, Follow or Get Out of the Way…”
> - Lee Iacocca, former head of Chrysler and Ford
>
> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and
> may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the
> intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the
> original message and its attachments. Any unauthorized review, use,
> disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: peter@webparity.net <pe...@webparity.net>
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 7:25 AM
> To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>; 'joe
> schmo' <ge...@hotmail.com>
> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: RE: testing done?
>
> All,
>
> I'm experiencing a lag when using NB 10. I format and get a message, "it's
> taking too long..."
>
> Scrolling is DELAYED... 1 - 3s...
>
> I've changed the -J-Xms1024m but boosting it up to 2048 like I did for NB
> 8.2 which works without issues. NB 10 and 11 LOCKS UP after a while and
> have to close it with Task Manager.
>
> I click Garbage collection and the number stays around 748/1024.
>
> I’m concerned that I can't use the best of NB 10 and 11 but cannot. I have
> to revert back to using 8.2 since 10 and 11 are not stable...
>
> ANY SUGGESTIONS would be greatly appreciated. I've been using NB since
> 2013. My company is pushing me to use InteliJ and Eclipse, both which SUCK!
>
> Thoughts, please?
>
> netbeans_default_options="-J-XX:+UseStringDeduplication -J-Xss2m
> -J-Xms1024m -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2 -J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true
> -J-Dapple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz=true -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true
> -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=true -J-Dsun.zip.disableMemoryMapping=true
> -J-Dplugin.manager.check.updates=false
> -J-Dnetbeans.extbrowser.manual_chrome_plugin_install=yes
> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.net=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang.ref=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.security=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
> -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED
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> Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
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> Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has been
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RE: testing done?
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
Also, when I click SAVE, it takes forever or not at all and I have to KILL NBs.
I'm running NB's on a 250 gb SSD Drive so there's NO excuse for this not working. I don't understand, people.
Please advise because 10 and 11 for me are NOT reliable.
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To: 'Geertjan Wielenga' <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>; 'joe schmo' <ge...@hotmail.com>
Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: RE: testing done?
All,
I'm experiencing a lag when using NB 10. I format and get a message, "it's taking too long..."
Scrolling is DELAYED... 1 - 3s...
I've changed the -J-Xms1024m but boosting it up to 2048 like I did for NB 8.2 which works without issues. NB 10 and 11 LOCKS UP after a while and have to close it with Task Manager.
I click Garbage collection and the number stays around 748/1024.
I’m concerned that I can't use the best of NB 10 and 11 but cannot. I have to revert back to using 8.2 since 10 and 11 are not stable...
ANY SUGGESTIONS would be greatly appreciated. I've been using NB since 2013. My company is pushing me to use InteliJ and Eclipse, both which SUCK!
Thoughts, please?
netbeans_default_options="-J-XX:+UseStringDeduplication -J-Xss2m -J-Xms1024m -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2 -J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true -J-Dapple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz=true -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=true -J-Dsun.zip.disableMemoryMapping=true -J-Dplugin.manager.check.updates=false -J-Dnetbeans.extbrowser.manual_chrome_plugin_install=yes -J--add-opens=java.base/java.net=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang.ref=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-opens=java.base/java.security=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-opens=java.prefs/java.util.prefs=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-opens=jdk.jshell/jdk.jshell=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-modules=jdk.jshell -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-exports=java.desktop/java.awt.peer=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.beans.editors=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.im=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-exports=jdk.internal.jvmstat/sun.jvmstat.monitor=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-exports=java.management/sun.management=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-exports=java.base/sun.reflect.annotation=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-exports=jdk.javadoc/com.sun.tools.javadoc.main=ALL-UNNAMED -J-XX:+IgnoreUnrecognizedVMOptions --fontsize 18"
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From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 11:26 PM
To: joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>
Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: testing done?
Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has been done.
Gj
On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is
> gone, that's why I'm asking.
>
> Thanks.
>
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RE: testing done?
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
All,
I'm experiencing a lag when using NB 10. I format and get a message, "it's taking too long..."
Scrolling is DELAYED... 1 - 3s...
I've changed the -J-Xms1024m but boosting it up to 2048 like I did for NB 8.2 which works without issues. NB 10 and 11 LOCKS UP after a while and have to close it with Task Manager.
I click Garbage collection and the number stays around 748/1024.
I’m concerned that I can't use the best of NB 10 and 11 but cannot. I have to revert back to using 8.2 since 10 and 11 are not stable...
ANY SUGGESTIONS would be greatly appreciated. I've been using NB since 2013. My company is pushing me to use InteliJ and Eclipse, both which SUCK!
Thoughts, please?
netbeans_default_options="-J-XX:+UseStringDeduplication -J-Xss2m -J-Xms1024m -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2 -J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true -J-Dapple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz=true -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true -J-Dsun.java2d.dpiaware=true -J-Dsun.zip.disableMemoryMapping=true -J-Dplugin.manager.check.updates=false -J-Dnetbeans.extbrowser.manual_chrome_plugin_install=yes -J--add-opens=java.base/java.net=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang.ref=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-opens=java.base/java.security=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.plaf.basic=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing.text=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-opens=java.prefs/java.util.prefs=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-opens=jdk.jshell/jdk.jshell=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-modules=jdk.jshell -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-exports=java.desktop/java.awt.peer=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-exports=java.desktop/com.sun.beans.editors=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.swing=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-exports=java.desktop/sun.awt.im=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-exports=jdk.internal.jvmstat/sun.jvmstat.monitor=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-exports=java.management/sun.management=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-exports=java.base/sun.reflect.annotation=ALL-UNNAMED -J--add-exports=jdk.javadoc/com.sun.tools.javadoc.main=ALL-UNNAMED -J-XX:+IgnoreUnrecognizedVMOptions --fontsize 18"
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From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 11:26 PM
To: joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>
Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: testing done?
Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has been done.
Gj
On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is
> gone, that's why I'm asking.
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: testing done?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Assigned, thanks.
Gj
On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 10:10 AM joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Maven Support-Sanity was the spec I was working on.
>
> Thanks
>
> BC
> ________________________________
> From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>
> Sent: March 18, 2019 3:26 AM
> To: joe schmo
> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
> Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
>
> Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has been
> done.
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com<mailto:
> geekyguy444@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is gone,
> that's why I'm asking.
>
> Thanks.
>
RE: testing done?
Posted by constantin drabo <dr...@hotmail.com>.
Yes, most of specs are very old.
?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie enti??re dans un berceau. ??
- Constantin????E. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de l'a??rospatiale modernes.
________________________________
De : Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>
Envoyé : dimanche 17 mars 2019 23:22
À : constantin drabo
Cc : joe schmo; netcat@netbeans.apache.org
Objet : Re: testing done?
Ah, makes sense.
To be honest, I think we have now covered all the areas important for Apache NetBeans 11. The blockers have been fixed, the remainder should be evaluated further and where needed fixed for the release after this one and we especially need to focus on updating the specs themselves.
Gj
On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 12:19, constantin drabo <dr...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
I think the due date is over. So The button "Run" will be disabled.
Constantin
?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie enti??re dans un berceau. ??
- Constantin????E. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de l'a??rospatiale modernes.
________________________________
De : joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>>
Envoyé : dimanche 17 mars 2019 21:10
Cc : netcat@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
Objet : Re: testing done?
Maven Support-Sanity was the spec I was working on.
Thanks
BC
________________________________
From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>>
Sent: March 18, 2019 3:26 AM
To: joe schmo
Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org<ma...@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: testing done?
Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has been done.
Gj
On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>>> wrote:
Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is gone, that's why I'm asking.
Thanks.
Re: testing done?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Ah, makes sense.
To be honest, I think we have now covered all the areas important for
Apache NetBeans 11. The blockers have been fixed, the remainder should be
evaluated further and where needed fixed for the release after this one and
we especially need to focus on updating the specs themselves.
Gj
On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 12:19, constantin drabo <dr...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> I think the due date is over. So The button "Run" will be disabled.
> Constantin
>
> ?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie
> enti??re dans un berceau. ??
> - Constantin????E. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de
> l'a??rospatiale modernes.
> ________________________________
> De : joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>
> Envoyé : dimanche 17 mars 2019 21:10
> Cc : netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> Objet : Re: testing done?
>
> Maven Support-Sanity was the spec I was working on.
>
> Thanks
>
> BC
> ________________________________
> From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>
> Sent: March 18, 2019 3:26 AM
> To: joe schmo
> Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: testing done?
>
> Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
>
> Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has been
> done.
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <geekyguy444@hotmail.com<mailto:
> geekyguy444@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is gone,
> that's why I'm asking.
>
> Thanks.
>
RE: testing done?
Posted by constantin drabo <dr...@hotmail.com>.
I think the due date is over. So The button "Run" will be disabled.
Constantin
?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie enti??re dans un berceau. ??
- Constantin????E. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de l'a??rospatiale modernes.
________________________________
De : joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>
Envoyé : dimanche 17 mars 2019 21:10
Cc : netcat@netbeans.apache.org
Objet : Re: testing done?
Maven Support-Sanity was the spec I was working on.
Thanks
BC
________________________________
From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>
Sent: March 18, 2019 3:26 AM
To: joe schmo
Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: testing done?
Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has been done.
Gj
On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is gone, that's why I'm asking.
Thanks.
Re: testing done?
Posted by joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>.
Maven Support-Sanity was the spec I was working on.
Thanks
BC
________________________________
From: Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>
Sent: March 18, 2019 3:26 AM
To: joe schmo
Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: testing done?
Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has been done.
Gj
On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is gone, that's why I'm asking.
Thanks.
RE: testing done?
Posted by pe...@webparity.net.
All,
Please see this Stackoverflow question I've posed.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/55186266/project-error-cannot-find-type-definition-file-for-cropperjs
Is this inherent to NB 8.2 and if not is it happening in NB 9, 10, and 11?
This is happening on a Angular 5 project... Cropperjs is npm installed and @Type is also created but still get the errors...
What's weird is that there is no issues with --aot --prod with ng serve. So I don't know why NB's is doing this.
It happens to most all .ts files on line 1 no matter what's there.
Thanks,
Peter Borreggine
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Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2019 11:26 PM
To: joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>
Cc: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: testing done?
Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has been done.
Gj
On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is
> gone, that's why I'm asking.
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: testing done?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Which spec, happy to reassign it if something went wrong there.
Yes, we should be wrapping up. I think all that we need to cover has been
done.
Gj
On Mon, 18 Mar 2019 at 00:44, joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Is testing complete for 11.0? The spec that was assigned to me is gone,
> that's why I'm asking.
>
> Thanks.
>