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Posted to dev@maven.apache.org by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> on 2007/05/06 18:30:22 UTC
Another m2 incubator artifacts poll...
Just FYI:
There's another thread going on on the general incubator list about where
incubating maven artifacts should go:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200705.mbox/<f470f68e0705060457n41fcde80h3d152d74568314c7%40mail.gmail.com>
I strongly encourage Maven experts to chime in and make their opinions
known.
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Re: Another m2 incubator artifacts poll...
Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On 5/6/07, Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org> wrote:
>
> On 6 May 07, at 9:30 AM 6 May 07, Daniel Kulp wrote:
>
> >
> > Just FYI:
> >
> > There's another thread going on on the general incubator list about
> > where
> > incubating maven artifacts should go:
> >
> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
> > 200705.mbox/<f470f68e0705060457n41fcde80h3d152d74568314c7%
> > 40mail.gmail.com>
> >
> > I strongly encourage Maven experts to chime in and make their opinions
> > known.
> >
>
> I already did the last time we had a vote. What was the result of
> that vote and where is there another poll?
>
> Why was the last vote not definitive?
if there was a vote before and anyone tallied the result, nothing much changed
this needs fixing and once a decision has been made, i'm willing to implement
- robert
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Re: Another m2 incubator artifacts poll...
Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>.
On 6 May 07, at 12:18 PM 6 May 07, Daniel Kulp wrote:
> On Sunday 06 May 2007 14:10, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>> I strongly encourage Maven experts to chime in and make their
>>> opinions known.
>>
>> I already did the last time we had a vote. What was the result of
>> that vote and where is there another poll?
>>
>> Why was the last vote not definitive?
>
> No one actually tabulated the result. In anycase, that vote was
> specifically whether they stay on people.apache.org or go to central.
> Now, infrastructure as mandated that they NOT stay on
> people.apache.org.
Then if it's not on people then we can set something up where you can
deploy directly to central. That's not hard to setup and I would be
happy to set this up and according to the distribution policies
you're free to do this.
I've already been told by OSU OSL that they have no room for a Maven
repository so if nothing can be hosted on Apache hardware physically
and infra is not willing to help or doesn't care then we can just
deploy to central. This will actually make life much easier.
Currently on the Maven PMC have access to the central machine but I'm
sure all of us would agree to expand this group. At some point in the
future we'll have automated processes to help maintain things, but in
the short term I would be happy to put you up for access to help out.
Even if was only to maintain the projects you were involved with.
This is the only way something like this is going to scale.
I think we would also be happy to give access to folks like Ivy if
they want to help clean things up. It's a community resource and if
we're going to clean it up and make it work we'll have to expand the
set of people we have processing things like upload bundles and
making tools.
> They have to go to a mirror of some sort. Thus, the new poll is more
> of the choice between central or the normal apache mirrors. Subtle,
> but important, difference.
Just send it all to central, we can set something up pretty quickly
and just be done with this nonsense.
Jason.
>
>
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> J. Daniel Kulp
> Principal Engineer
> IONA
> P: 781-902-8727 C: 508-380-7194
> daniel.kulp@iona.com
> http://www.dankulp.com/blog
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Re: Another m2 incubator artifacts poll...
Posted by Jochen Wiedmann <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 5/6/07, robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> they don't need to be mirrored: they just need to be in the right
> place. this means that they will be properly archived, backed up and
> scanned.
>
> the incubator directories could be intentionally excluded from
> mirroring but i'm not sure that's worthwhile
I'll never understand that hazzle about ASL licensed artifacts. I
actually catched myself thinking "thanks god, it depends on Sun
artifacts, which are easily accessible, rather than Incubator
artifacts" in one case. :-(
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Re: Another m2 incubator artifacts poll...
Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On 5/6/07, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Sunday 06 May 2007 14:10, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> > > I strongly encourage Maven experts to chime in and make their
> > > opinions known.
> >
> > I already did the last time we had a vote. What was the result of
> > that vote and where is there another poll?
> >
> > Why was the last vote not definitive?
>
> No one actually tabulated the result. In anycase, that vote was
> specifically whether they stay on people.apache.org or go to central.
> Now, infrastructure as mandated that they NOT stay on people.apache.org.
> They have to go to a mirror of some sort.
they don't need to be mirrored: they just need to be in the right
place. this means that they will be properly archived, backed up and
scanned.
the incubator directories could be intentionally excluded from
mirroring but i'm not sure that's worthwhile
- robert
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Re: Another m2 incubator artifacts poll...
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
On Sunday 06 May 2007 14:10, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> > I strongly encourage Maven experts to chime in and make their
> > opinions known.
>
> I already did the last time we had a vote. What was the result of
> that vote and where is there another poll?
>
> Why was the last vote not definitive?
No one actually tabulated the result. In anycase, that vote was
specifically whether they stay on people.apache.org or go to central.
Now, infrastructure as mandated that they NOT stay on people.apache.org.
They have to go to a mirror of some sort. Thus, the new poll is more
of the choice between central or the normal apache mirrors. Subtle,
but important, difference.
--
J. Daniel Kulp
Principal Engineer
IONA
P: 781-902-8727 C: 508-380-7194
daniel.kulp@iona.com
http://www.dankulp.com/blog
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Re: Another m2 incubator artifacts poll...
Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>.
On 6 May 07, at 9:30 AM 6 May 07, Daniel Kulp wrote:
>
> Just FYI:
>
> There's another thread going on on the general incubator list about
> where
> incubating maven artifacts should go:
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/
> 200705.mbox/<f470f68e0705060457n41fcde80h3d152d74568314c7%
> 40mail.gmail.com>
>
> I strongly encourage Maven experts to chime in and make their opinions
> known.
>
I already did the last time we had a vote. What was the result of
that vote and where is there another poll?
Why was the last vote not definitive?
Jason.
>
> --
> J. Daniel Kulp
> Principal Engineer
> IONA
> P: 781-902-8727 C: 508-380-7194
> daniel.kulp@iona.com
> http://www.dankulp.com/blog
>
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