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Posted to users@camel.apache.org by Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> on 2021/01/14 09:23:40 UTC
Re: Are you using binary distribution?
Hi Cameleers,
I've let this open ended so folk can express their thoughts. I propose
that we can put this to a vote if you'd prefer so we can measure the
consensus. Thoughts?
zoran
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 2:37 PM Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Cameleers,
> we're discussing binary distribution on two issues[1][2]. The binary
> distribution is the tar.gz/ZIP file linked from the Camel website. By
> ASF policy we only ship source code, and the binary distribution is
> optional.
>
> Back in the dark days, before using build tools that knew about
> dependency management (Maven, Gradle...) folk used to use the binary
> distribution.
>
> I've found some statistics on downloads/per day, for us[3]/eu[4] and
> created these charts:
>
> https://s.apache.org/camel-dl-us
> https://s.apache.org/camel-dl-eu
>
> The data is over 2 and 1/4 years, we've had 19.7+-8.8 via US, and
> 20.24+-8.43 in via EU per day. So not that much IMHO.
>
> I'm wondering if anyone is still relying on these, and if so what
> would a binary distribution look like for sub projects? Should we do
> the same as we do for the Camel core?
>
> Please reply on this thread or chime in on those issues for
> sub-project specific concerns.
>
> Thanks :)
>
> zoran
>
> [1] https://github.com/apache/camel-quarkus/issues/2045
> [2] https://github.com/apache/camel-kafka-connector/issues/754
> [3] https://www-us.apache.org/dyn/stats/camel.log
> [4] https://www-eu.apache.org/dyn/stats/camel.log
> --
> Zoran Regvart
--
Zoran Regvart
Re: Are you using binary distribution?
Posted by Claus Ibsen <cl...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 10:35 AM Guillaume Nodet <gn...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> I think binary distributions are not really useful for projects such as
> camel where there's no executable included, so if we want to not generate
> them, that's fine for me.
> Not sure this requires a vote given it seems there's a consensus already.
>
Yeah I don't see the need for binary distro either.
> Guillaume
>
> Le jeu. 14 janv. 2021 à 10:24, Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> a écrit :
>
> > Hi Cameleers,
> > I've let this open ended so folk can express their thoughts. I propose
> > that we can put this to a vote if you'd prefer so we can measure the
> > consensus. Thoughts?
> >
> > zoran
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 2:37 PM Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Cameleers,
> > > we're discussing binary distribution on two issues[1][2]. The binary
> > > distribution is the tar.gz/ZIP file linked from the Camel website. By
> > > ASF policy we only ship source code, and the binary distribution is
> > > optional.
> > >
> > > Back in the dark days, before using build tools that knew about
> > > dependency management (Maven, Gradle...) folk used to use the binary
> > > distribution.
> > >
> > > I've found some statistics on downloads/per day, for us[3]/eu[4] and
> > > created these charts:
> > >
> > > https://s.apache.org/camel-dl-us
> > > https://s.apache.org/camel-dl-eu
> > >
> > > The data is over 2 and 1/4 years, we've had 19.7+-8.8 via US, and
> > > 20.24+-8.43 in via EU per day. So not that much IMHO.
> > >
> > > I'm wondering if anyone is still relying on these, and if so what
> > > would a binary distribution look like for sub projects? Should we do
> > > the same as we do for the Camel core?
> > >
> > > Please reply on this thread or chime in on those issues for
> > > sub-project specific concerns.
> > >
> > > Thanks :)
> > >
> > > zoran
> > >
> > > [1] https://github.com/apache/camel-quarkus/issues/2045
> > > [2] https://github.com/apache/camel-kafka-connector/issues/754
> > > [3] https://www-us.apache.org/dyn/stats/camel.log
> > > [4] https://www-eu.apache.org/dyn/stats/camel.log
> > > --
> > > Zoran Regvart
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Zoran Regvart
> >
>
>
> --
> ------------------------
> Guillaume Nodet
--
Claus Ibsen
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Re: Are you using binary distribution?
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@apache.org>.
I think binary distributions are not really useful for projects such as
camel where there's no executable included, so if we want to not generate
them, that's fine for me.
Not sure this requires a vote given it seems there's a consensus already.
Guillaume
Le jeu. 14 janv. 2021 à 10:24, Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> a écrit :
> Hi Cameleers,
> I've let this open ended so folk can express their thoughts. I propose
> that we can put this to a vote if you'd prefer so we can measure the
> consensus. Thoughts?
>
> zoran
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 2:37 PM Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Cameleers,
> > we're discussing binary distribution on two issues[1][2]. The binary
> > distribution is the tar.gz/ZIP file linked from the Camel website. By
> > ASF policy we only ship source code, and the binary distribution is
> > optional.
> >
> > Back in the dark days, before using build tools that knew about
> > dependency management (Maven, Gradle...) folk used to use the binary
> > distribution.
> >
> > I've found some statistics on downloads/per day, for us[3]/eu[4] and
> > created these charts:
> >
> > https://s.apache.org/camel-dl-us
> > https://s.apache.org/camel-dl-eu
> >
> > The data is over 2 and 1/4 years, we've had 19.7+-8.8 via US, and
> > 20.24+-8.43 in via EU per day. So not that much IMHO.
> >
> > I'm wondering if anyone is still relying on these, and if so what
> > would a binary distribution look like for sub projects? Should we do
> > the same as we do for the Camel core?
> >
> > Please reply on this thread or chime in on those issues for
> > sub-project specific concerns.
> >
> > Thanks :)
> >
> > zoran
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/apache/camel-quarkus/issues/2045
> > [2] https://github.com/apache/camel-kafka-connector/issues/754
> > [3] https://www-us.apache.org/dyn/stats/camel.log
> > [4] https://www-eu.apache.org/dyn/stats/camel.log
> > --
> > Zoran Regvart
>
>
>
> --
> Zoran Regvart
>
--
------------------------
Guillaume Nodet
Re: Are you using binary distribution?
Posted by Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com>.
Hi Cameleers,
okay, so I don't see anyone objecting to this. And as Guillaume
pointed out we seemed to have reached a consensus on this.
I've created CAMEL-16038[1], please add implementation comments there.
zoran
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-16038
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 10:23 AM Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Cameleers,
> I've let this open ended so folk can express their thoughts. I propose
> that we can put this to a vote if you'd prefer so we can measure the
> consensus. Thoughts?
>
> zoran
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 2:37 PM Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Cameleers,
> > we're discussing binary distribution on two issues[1][2]. The binary
> > distribution is the tar.gz/ZIP file linked from the Camel website. By
> > ASF policy we only ship source code, and the binary distribution is
> > optional.
> >
> > Back in the dark days, before using build tools that knew about
> > dependency management (Maven, Gradle...) folk used to use the binary
> > distribution.
> >
> > I've found some statistics on downloads/per day, for us[3]/eu[4] and
> > created these charts:
> >
> > https://s.apache.org/camel-dl-us
> > https://s.apache.org/camel-dl-eu
> >
> > The data is over 2 and 1/4 years, we've had 19.7+-8.8 via US, and
> > 20.24+-8.43 in via EU per day. So not that much IMHO.
> >
> > I'm wondering if anyone is still relying on these, and if so what
> > would a binary distribution look like for sub projects? Should we do
> > the same as we do for the Camel core?
> >
> > Please reply on this thread or chime in on those issues for
> > sub-project specific concerns.
> >
> > Thanks :)
> >
> > zoran
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/apache/camel-quarkus/issues/2045
> > [2] https://github.com/apache/camel-kafka-connector/issues/754
> > [3] https://www-us.apache.org/dyn/stats/camel.log
> > [4] https://www-eu.apache.org/dyn/stats/camel.log
> > --
> > Zoran Regvart
>
>
>
> --
> Zoran Regvart
--
Zoran Regvart
Re: Are you using binary distribution?
Posted by Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com>.
Hi Cameleers,
okay, so I don't see anyone objecting to this. And as Guillaume
pointed out we seemed to have reached a consensus on this.
I've created CAMEL-16038[1], please add implementation comments there.
zoran
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-16038
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 10:23 AM Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Cameleers,
> I've let this open ended so folk can express their thoughts. I propose
> that we can put this to a vote if you'd prefer so we can measure the
> consensus. Thoughts?
>
> zoran
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 2:37 PM Zoran Regvart <zo...@regvart.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Cameleers,
> > we're discussing binary distribution on two issues[1][2]. The binary
> > distribution is the tar.gz/ZIP file linked from the Camel website. By
> > ASF policy we only ship source code, and the binary distribution is
> > optional.
> >
> > Back in the dark days, before using build tools that knew about
> > dependency management (Maven, Gradle...) folk used to use the binary
> > distribution.
> >
> > I've found some statistics on downloads/per day, for us[3]/eu[4] and
> > created these charts:
> >
> > https://s.apache.org/camel-dl-us
> > https://s.apache.org/camel-dl-eu
> >
> > The data is over 2 and 1/4 years, we've had 19.7+-8.8 via US, and
> > 20.24+-8.43 in via EU per day. So not that much IMHO.
> >
> > I'm wondering if anyone is still relying on these, and if so what
> > would a binary distribution look like for sub projects? Should we do
> > the same as we do for the Camel core?
> >
> > Please reply on this thread or chime in on those issues for
> > sub-project specific concerns.
> >
> > Thanks :)
> >
> > zoran
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/apache/camel-quarkus/issues/2045
> > [2] https://github.com/apache/camel-kafka-connector/issues/754
> > [3] https://www-us.apache.org/dyn/stats/camel.log
> > [4] https://www-eu.apache.org/dyn/stats/camel.log
> > --
> > Zoran Regvart
>
>
>
> --
> Zoran Regvart
--
Zoran Regvart