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Posted to dev@tomcat.apache.org by Vic Cekvenich <vc...@basebeans.com> on 2003/02/19 14:04:13 UTC
JDK 1.4 - again
Some time ago I posted that maybe Tomcat 5.0 should require 1.4, and
Tomcat 4 be 1.3.
News:
Resin 3.0 (the fastest container) requires JDK1.4.
And http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/java2-status/jdk1.4-status.html
Of course 1.4 is faster, more reflection.
(Also: Doug Lea's collections that are fast and threaded are in JDK 1.5.)
Please consider requiring the better/faster 1.4.
.V
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Re: JDK 1.4 - again
Posted by Henri Gomez <hg...@apache.org>.
Vic Cekvenich wrote:
> Some time ago I posted that maybe Tomcat 5.0 should require 1.4, and
> Tomcat 4 be 1.3.
>
> News:
> Resin 3.0 (the fastest container) requires JDK1.4.
Resin is commercial product and a company make its own choice (see M$).
Tomcat is OSS and follow what developpers/users feel the best for.
> And http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/java2-status/jdk1.4-status.html
I'm using IBM SDK on many differents systems, and for example
there is still not SDK 1.4 for Linux PowerPC.
> Of course 1.4 is faster, more reflection.
>
> (Also: Doug Lea's collections that are fast and threaded are in JDK 1.5.)
>
> Please consider requiring the better/faster 1.4.
And as I said previously JDK 1.3.1 is more than suffisant.
We could add a note indicating that JDK 1.4 will make tomcat run
faster but I'd like to see your own benchmarks to know how faster
it will be (5%, 10%).
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Re: JDK 1.4 - again
Posted by Amy Roh <am...@apache.org>.
Steve Burrus wrote:
>
> Gentlemen, as I really do appreciate all of the discussion about just how fast Resin and the others are, I was MAINLY asking about just what it is!!! Is it also a web container/application server like my Tomcat is? And in yer reply to me, would you also tell me how it's set up?
As John already mentioned, you can find more info about Resin at
http://www.caucho.com/. Why don't you just search for Resin? Google
gives you the website.
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Re: JDK 1.4 - again
Posted by Bill Barker <wb...@wilshire.com>.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Scott Stevens" <jo...@latchkey.com>
To: "tomcat-dev" <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 12:25 AM
Subject: Re: JDK 1.4 - again
> on 2003/2/21 3:40 PM, "Steve Burrus" <bu...@swbell.net> wrote:
>
> > Gentlemen, as I really do appreciate all of the discussion about just
how fast
> > Resin and the others are, I was MAINLY asking about just what it is!!!
Is it
> > also a web container/application server like my Tomcat is? And in yer
reply to
> > me, would you also tell me how it's set up?
>
> Wow! When did hell freeze over?
Yeah, well, I'm guessing that most of the respondents on this thread haven't
spent much time on tomcat-user ;-).
>
> =)
>
> -jon
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Re: JDK 1.4 - again
Posted by Jon Scott Stevens <jo...@latchkey.com>.
on 2003/2/21 3:40 PM, "Steve Burrus" <bu...@swbell.net> wrote:
> Gentlemen, as I really do appreciate all of the discussion about just how fast
> Resin and the others are, I was MAINLY asking about just what it is!!! Is it
> also a web container/application server like my Tomcat is? And in yer reply to
> me, would you also tell me how it's set up?
Wow! When did hell freeze over?
=)
-jon
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RE: JDK 1.4 - again
Posted by Steve Burrus <bu...@swbell.net>.
Gentlemen, as I really do appreciate all of the discussion about just how fast Resin and the others are, I was MAINLY asking about just what it is!!! Is it also a web container/application server like my Tomcat is? And in yer reply to me, would you also tell me how it's set up?
RE: JDK 1.4 - again
Posted by George Sexton <gs...@mhsoftware.com>.
Fast is relative. I tested our App on Tomcat 4.0, 4.1, Resin, Orion, and
OC4J. I was not able to come up with any noticeable difference in
performance. If your application is database intensive, as our is, then the
limiting factor is the database and not the application server.
George Sexton
MH Software, Inc.
Home of Connect Daily Web Calendar Software
http://www.mhsoftware.com/connectdaily.htm
Voice: 303 438 9585
-----Original Message-----
From: John Trollinger [mailto:jakarta@trollingers.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 5:13 AM
To: 'Tomcat Developers List'
Subject: RE: JDK 1.4 - again
http://www.caucho.com/
It is pretty fast. A lot of ISPs seem to use it for providing jsp /
servlets to their users.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Burrus [mailto:burrus1@swbell.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:47 PM
> To: Tomcat Developers List
> Subject: Re: JDK 1.4 - again
>
>
> What do u mean by a "Resin 3.0" anyway?? What kind of a web
> container is that? I have NEVER really heard about that ever
> before! Would you please "humor me" and tell me all this
> resin 3.0? You say that it's a lot faster than Tomcat. How
> can that possibly be. Tomcat is pretty fast.
>
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RE: JDK 1.4 - again
Posted by John Trollinger <ja...@trollingers.com>.
http://www.caucho.com/
It is pretty fast. A lot of ISPs seem to use it for providing jsp /
servlets to their users.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Burrus [mailto:burrus1@swbell.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:47 PM
> To: Tomcat Developers List
> Subject: Re: JDK 1.4 - again
>
>
> What do u mean by a "Resin 3.0" anyway?? What kind of a web
> container is that? I have NEVER really heard about that ever
> before! Would you please "humor me" and tell me all this
> resin 3.0? You say that it's a lot faster than Tomcat. How
> can that possibly be. Tomcat is pretty fast.
>
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Re: JDK 1.4 - again
Posted by Steve Burrus <bu...@swbell.net>.
What do u mean by a "Resin 3.0" anyway?? What kind of a web container is that? I have NEVER really heard about that ever before! Would you please "humor me" and tell me all this resin 3.0? You say that it's a lot faster than Tomcat. How can that possibly be. Tomcat is pretty fast.