Re: Is it not recommanded to learn a message already flaged as spam?

[Matt Kettler <mk...@comcast.net>]

At 10:17 AM 12/2/2004 +0100, Nicolas wrote:
>With mutt, I'd like to define a macro which learn the mail as spam,
>report it to razor, and delete it.
>
>I'd like to know if it is not recommanded to learn a mail as spam, while
>it's already flaged as spam by SA?

It IS recommended to learn mail that's already been flagged. Even if it's 
flagged BAYES_99 SA can still learn worthwhile tokens from a message.

sa-learn recognizes SA's own spam tags, and will automatically strip those 
out before learning it.

The only thing I'd avoid in training messages is I'd not intentionally 
train the same message twice. But even this is only because it's a minor 
waste of time.. SA will just ignore them, no harm done, but it's pointless 
to go out of your way to retrain the same message.

Also, if you use spamassassin -r on the message, it will strip tags, learn 
as spam, and report it to razor, spamcop and any other hash systems you 
have installed (ie: dcc or pyzor.)

So all your macro needs to do is call spamssassin -r <message.txt and then 
delete the message.

Re: Is it not recommanded to learn a message already flaged as spam?

[Nicolas <st...@oxstone.com>]

On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 10:04:27AM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote:
> At 10:17 AM 12/2/2004 +0100, Nicolas wrote:
> >With mutt, I'd like to define a macro which learn the mail as spam,
> >report it to razor, and delete it.
> >
> >I'd like to know if it is not recommanded to learn a mail as spam, while
> >it's already flaged as spam by SA?
> 
> It IS recommended to learn mail that's already been flagged. Even if it's 
> flagged BAYES_99 SA can still learn worthwhile tokens from a message.
> 
> sa-learn recognizes SA's own spam tags, and will automatically strip those 
> out before learning it.
> 
> The only thing I'd avoid in training messages is I'd not intentionally 
> train the same message twice. But even this is only because it's a minor 
> waste of time.. SA will just ignore them, no harm done, but it's pointless 
> to go out of your way to retrain the same message.
> 
> Also, if you use spamassassin -r on the message, it will strip tags, learn 
> as spam, and report it to razor, spamcop and any other hash systems you 
> have installed (ie: dcc or pyzor.)
> 
> So all your macro needs to do is call spamssassin -r <message.txt and then 
> delete the message.

Thanks for the help, guys!

Nicolas

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