You are viewing a plain text version of this content. The canonical link for it is here.
Posted to user@struts.apache.org by Aaron Longwell <li...@newmedialogic.com> on 2003/06/18 15:27:16 UTC
My View Is Messy
Morning everyone,
I have been working on an event manager application in Struts for about
3 days. I'm just getting to the point of displaying a monthly calendar
full of events. I finished up the JSP last night, and it's a mess.
First, there's a lot of code in it. For example, to print out the event
time, name, and description looks like this:
<dt:format date="<%= event.getStartDate() %>" pattern="hh:mma"/> -
<dt:format date="<%= event.getEndDate() %>" pattern="hh:mma"/> :
<bean:write name="event" property="title"/><br/>
<bean:write name="event" property="description"/>
All that code just to print this:
4:00pm - 5:00pm : Watch TV<br/>
Watch TV event description
Cold Fusion salespeople always tout the fact that Cold Fusion is
"tag-based." I've always thought markup tags for dynamic content took up
way too much space in the HTML.... I don't like Cold Fusion. My view is
starting to look like Cold Fusion.
I've looking for some recommendations for better view frameworks. Do you
use Velocity? Do you use an implementation of XSLT? How do these affect
application performance (serializing to XML just to reserialize to HTML
seems like an unnecessary performance hit)? How do they affect
development time (all of them seem to require extra effort to develop
(i.e. compiling a new servlet for each view, etc)?
Thanks for the recommendations,
Aaron
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
Re: My View Is Messy
Posted by Carl Walker <wa...@georgetown.edu>.
Maybe you should create some app-specfic custom tags. Here's one example.
<sched:table>
<sched:entry start="4pm" end="5pm" event="Watch TV"/>
<sched:entry start="5pm" end="6pm" event="Eat Dinner" />
</sched:table>
With RT values in a loop.
<sched:table>
<logic:iterate id="event" name="event_collection">
<sched:entry eventVar="event" />
</logic:iterate>
</sched:table>
If you want to bury the iteration, just pass in a list of event objects.
<sched:table collection="event_collection" />
Aaron Longwell wrote:
> Morning everyone,
>
> I have been working on an event manager application in Struts for about
> 3 days. I'm just getting to the point of displaying a monthly calendar
> full of events. I finished up the JSP last night, and it's a mess.
> First, there's a lot of code in it. For example, to print out the event
> time, name, and description looks like this:
>
> <dt:format date="<%= event.getStartDate() %>" pattern="hh:mma"/> -
> <dt:format date="<%= event.getEndDate() %>" pattern="hh:mma"/> :
> <bean:write name="event" property="title"/><br/>
> <bean:write name="event" property="description"/>
>
> All that code just to print this:
>
> 4:00pm - 5:00pm : Watch TV<br/>
> Watch TV event description
>
> Cold Fusion salespeople always tout the fact that Cold Fusion is
> "tag-based." I've always thought markup tags for dynamic content took up
> way too much space in the HTML.... I don't like Cold Fusion. My view is
> starting to look like Cold Fusion.
>
> I've looking for some recommendations for better view frameworks. Do you
> use Velocity? Do you use an implementation of XSLT? How do these affect
> application performance (serializing to XML just to reserialize to HTML
> seems like an unnecessary performance hit)? How do they affect
> development time (all of them seem to require extra effort to develop
> (i.e. compiling a new servlet for each view, etc)?
>
> Thanks for the recommendations,
> Aaron
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
Re: My View Is Messy
Posted by Aaron Longwell <li...@newmedialogic.com>.
I've implemented some JSTL fixes to clean up my code a little. Here's
what I've got now:
<fmt:formatDate value="${event.startDate}" pattern="hh:mma"/> -
<fmt:formatDate value="${event.endDate}" pattern="hh:mma"/> :
<c:out value="${event.title}"/><br/>
<c:out value="${event.description}"/><br/>
Tags with EL are so much cleaner. I think that (JSTL) solves my problems
of the view for this project.
However, I'd still like to hear your thoughts on non-JSP or JSP+template
language view systems. I am curious to see what's actually being used..
and what works.
Thanks,
Aaron
Aaron Longwell wrote:
> Morning everyone,
>
> I have been working on an event manager application in Struts for
> about 3 days. I'm just getting to the point of displaying a monthly
> calendar full of events. I finished up the JSP last night, and it's a
> mess. First, there's a lot of code in it. For example, to print out
> the event time, name, and description looks like this:
>
> <dt:format date="<%= event.getStartDate() %>" pattern="hh:mma"/> -
> <dt:format date="<%= event.getEndDate() %>" pattern="hh:mma"/> :
> <bean:write name="event" property="title"/><br/>
> <bean:write name="event" property="description"/>
>
> All that code just to print this:
>
> 4:00pm - 5:00pm : Watch TV<br/>
> Watch TV event description
>
> Cold Fusion salespeople always tout the fact that Cold Fusion is
> "tag-based." I've always thought markup tags for dynamic content took
> up way too much space in the HTML.... I don't like Cold Fusion. My
> view is starting to look like Cold Fusion.
>
> I've looking for some recommendations for better view frameworks. Do
> you use Velocity? Do you use an implementation of XSLT? How do these
> affect application performance (serializing to XML just to reserialize
> to HTML seems like an unnecessary performance hit)? How do they affect
> development time (all of them seem to require extra effort to develop
> (i.e. compiling a new servlet for each view, etc)?
>
> Thanks for the recommendations,
> Aaron
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
>
>
>
> .
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
Re: My View Is Messy
Posted by Aaron Longwell <li...@newmedialogic.com>.
Andrew,
Found this:
http://www.manning.com/bayern/appendixA.pdf
From a new book JSTL in Action.
Aaron
Andrew Hill wrote:
>Afraid my knowledge of both is strictly second-hand. Havent used either!
>Sorry :-(
>
>Im sure you can find jstl info online though, whats google return for it?
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Aaron Longwell [mailto:listservs@newmedialogic.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2003 21:50
>To: Struts Users Mailing List
>Subject: Re: My View Is Messy
>
>
>Andrew,
>
>2 things. First, is there a good tag reference (similar to the Struts
>docs) for the JSTL tags online? I've never worked with JSTL before.
>
>Second, I've looked at the stxx web site, and it looks like an
>intelligent system.... on the other hand... it looks like it might add a
>good chunk of development time:
>
>BEFORE:
>1) Create JSP to display code
>
>AFTER:
>1) Make All actions extend Stxx Action
>2) Implement saveDocument for all actions
>3) Create XSL stylesheet for all actions
>
>This seems like a lot of additional steps, with the increased debugging
>issue of having to compile the action and restart the webapp for each
>change.... JSPs can be edited live and reloaded to see the changes. On
>the other hand, Stxx adds in a few new features (like delivery to a cell
>phone, XML-output to use with an XML Web Services app, etc). Have you
>used it? Do you like it?
>
>Thanks,
>Aaron
>
>Andrew Hill wrote:
>
>
>
>><snip>
>>(serializing to XML just to reserialize to HTML seems like an unnecessary
>>performance hit)
>></snip>
>>
>>Yeh, Id imagine it can get pretty expensive when the server is under heavy
>>load.
>>
>>I wouldnt want to do that for amazon.com type sites ... although actually
>>for xslt, I think the modern browsers can understand it, so you could just
>>write the xml to the response from jsp and whatever it is you need to do
>>tell the browser where to pull the stylesheet and let it do the grunt
>>work... havent tried it myself though. Have you looked at the stxx
>>
>>
>extension
>
>
>>yet?
>>
>>Really though I reckon what you want to look at is the tiles extension, and
>>for smaller 'fiddly bits' that reoccur a lot banging together your own jsp
>>tags.
>>
>>oh yeah! - The other thing you should look at (first!) is JSTL and/or the
>>struts-el tags as I believe they support a somewhat more concise (and
>>certainly less ugly) syntax for what your doing in that example.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Aaron Longwell [mailto:listservs@newmedialogic.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2003 21:27
>>To: Struts-User
>>Subject: My View Is Messy
>>
>>
>>Morning everyone,
>>
>>I have been working on an event manager application in Struts for about
>>3 days. I'm just getting to the point of displaying a monthly calendar
>>full of events. I finished up the JSP last night, and it's a mess.
>>First, there's a lot of code in it. For example, to print out the event
>>time, name, and description looks like this:
>>
>><dt:format date="<%= event.getStartDate() %>" pattern="hh:mma"/> -
>><dt:format date="<%= event.getEndDate() %>" pattern="hh:mma"/> :
>><bean:write name="event" property="title"/><br/>
>><bean:write name="event" property="description"/>
>>
>>All that code just to print this:
>>
>>4:00pm - 5:00pm : Watch TV<br/>
>>Watch TV event description
>>
>>Cold Fusion salespeople always tout the fact that Cold Fusion is
>>"tag-based." I've always thought markup tags for dynamic content took up
>>way too much space in the HTML.... I don't like Cold Fusion. My view is
>>starting to look like Cold Fusion.
>>
>>I've looking for some recommendations for better view frameworks. Do you
>>use Velocity? Do you use an implementation of XSLT? How do these affect
>>application performance (serializing to XML just to reserialize to HTML
>>seems like an unnecessary performance hit)? How do they affect
>>development time (all of them seem to require extra effort to develop
>>(i.e. compiling a new servlet for each view, etc)?
>>
>>Thanks for the recommendations,
>>Aaron
>>
>>
>>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
>>For additional commands, e-mail: struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
>>
>>
>>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
>>For additional commands, e-mail: struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
>For additional commands, e-mail: struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
>
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
>For additional commands, e-mail: struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
RE: My View Is Messy
Posted by Andrew Hill <an...@gridnode.com>.
Afraid my knowledge of both is strictly second-hand. Havent used either!
Sorry :-(
Im sure you can find jstl info online though, whats google return for it?
-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Longwell [mailto:listservs@newmedialogic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2003 21:50
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: My View Is Messy
Andrew,
2 things. First, is there a good tag reference (similar to the Struts
docs) for the JSTL tags online? I've never worked with JSTL before.
Second, I've looked at the stxx web site, and it looks like an
intelligent system.... on the other hand... it looks like it might add a
good chunk of development time:
BEFORE:
1) Create JSP to display code
AFTER:
1) Make All actions extend Stxx Action
2) Implement saveDocument for all actions
3) Create XSL stylesheet for all actions
This seems like a lot of additional steps, with the increased debugging
issue of having to compile the action and restart the webapp for each
change.... JSPs can be edited live and reloaded to see the changes. On
the other hand, Stxx adds in a few new features (like delivery to a cell
phone, XML-output to use with an XML Web Services app, etc). Have you
used it? Do you like it?
Thanks,
Aaron
Andrew Hill wrote:
><snip>
>(serializing to XML just to reserialize to HTML seems like an unnecessary
>performance hit)
></snip>
>
>Yeh, Id imagine it can get pretty expensive when the server is under heavy
>load.
>
>I wouldnt want to do that for amazon.com type sites ... although actually
>for xslt, I think the modern browsers can understand it, so you could just
>write the xml to the response from jsp and whatever it is you need to do
>tell the browser where to pull the stylesheet and let it do the grunt
>work... havent tried it myself though. Have you looked at the stxx
extension
>yet?
>
>Really though I reckon what you want to look at is the tiles extension, and
>for smaller 'fiddly bits' that reoccur a lot banging together your own jsp
>tags.
>
>oh yeah! - The other thing you should look at (first!) is JSTL and/or the
>struts-el tags as I believe they support a somewhat more concise (and
>certainly less ugly) syntax for what your doing in that example.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Aaron Longwell [mailto:listservs@newmedialogic.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2003 21:27
>To: Struts-User
>Subject: My View Is Messy
>
>
>Morning everyone,
>
>I have been working on an event manager application in Struts for about
>3 days. I'm just getting to the point of displaying a monthly calendar
>full of events. I finished up the JSP last night, and it's a mess.
>First, there's a lot of code in it. For example, to print out the event
>time, name, and description looks like this:
>
><dt:format date="<%= event.getStartDate() %>" pattern="hh:mma"/> -
><dt:format date="<%= event.getEndDate() %>" pattern="hh:mma"/> :
><bean:write name="event" property="title"/><br/>
><bean:write name="event" property="description"/>
>
>All that code just to print this:
>
>4:00pm - 5:00pm : Watch TV<br/>
>Watch TV event description
>
>Cold Fusion salespeople always tout the fact that Cold Fusion is
>"tag-based." I've always thought markup tags for dynamic content took up
>way too much space in the HTML.... I don't like Cold Fusion. My view is
>starting to look like Cold Fusion.
>
>I've looking for some recommendations for better view frameworks. Do you
>use Velocity? Do you use an implementation of XSLT? How do these affect
>application performance (serializing to XML just to reserialize to HTML
>seems like an unnecessary performance hit)? How do they affect
>development time (all of them seem to require extra effort to develop
>(i.e. compiling a new servlet for each view, etc)?
>
>Thanks for the recommendations,
>Aaron
>
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
>For additional commands, e-mail: struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
>
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
>For additional commands, e-mail: struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
Re: My View Is Messy
Posted by Aaron Longwell <li...@newmedialogic.com>.
Andrew,
2 things. First, is there a good tag reference (similar to the Struts
docs) for the JSTL tags online? I've never worked with JSTL before.
Second, I've looked at the stxx web site, and it looks like an
intelligent system.... on the other hand... it looks like it might add a
good chunk of development time:
BEFORE:
1) Create JSP to display code
AFTER:
1) Make All actions extend Stxx Action
2) Implement saveDocument for all actions
3) Create XSL stylesheet for all actions
This seems like a lot of additional steps, with the increased debugging
issue of having to compile the action and restart the webapp for each
change.... JSPs can be edited live and reloaded to see the changes. On
the other hand, Stxx adds in a few new features (like delivery to a cell
phone, XML-output to use with an XML Web Services app, etc). Have you
used it? Do you like it?
Thanks,
Aaron
Andrew Hill wrote:
><snip>
>(serializing to XML just to reserialize to HTML seems like an unnecessary
>performance hit)
></snip>
>
>Yeh, Id imagine it can get pretty expensive when the server is under heavy
>load.
>
>I wouldnt want to do that for amazon.com type sites ... although actually
>for xslt, I think the modern browsers can understand it, so you could just
>write the xml to the response from jsp and whatever it is you need to do
>tell the browser where to pull the stylesheet and let it do the grunt
>work... havent tried it myself though. Have you looked at the stxx extension
>yet?
>
>Really though I reckon what you want to look at is the tiles extension, and
>for smaller 'fiddly bits' that reoccur a lot banging together your own jsp
>tags.
>
>oh yeah! - The other thing you should look at (first!) is JSTL and/or the
>struts-el tags as I believe they support a somewhat more concise (and
>certainly less ugly) syntax for what your doing in that example.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Aaron Longwell [mailto:listservs@newmedialogic.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2003 21:27
>To: Struts-User
>Subject: My View Is Messy
>
>
>Morning everyone,
>
>I have been working on an event manager application in Struts for about
>3 days. I'm just getting to the point of displaying a monthly calendar
>full of events. I finished up the JSP last night, and it's a mess.
>First, there's a lot of code in it. For example, to print out the event
>time, name, and description looks like this:
>
><dt:format date="<%= event.getStartDate() %>" pattern="hh:mma"/> -
><dt:format date="<%= event.getEndDate() %>" pattern="hh:mma"/> :
><bean:write name="event" property="title"/><br/>
><bean:write name="event" property="description"/>
>
>All that code just to print this:
>
>4:00pm - 5:00pm : Watch TV<br/>
>Watch TV event description
>
>Cold Fusion salespeople always tout the fact that Cold Fusion is
>"tag-based." I've always thought markup tags for dynamic content took up
>way too much space in the HTML.... I don't like Cold Fusion. My view is
>starting to look like Cold Fusion.
>
>I've looking for some recommendations for better view frameworks. Do you
>use Velocity? Do you use an implementation of XSLT? How do these affect
>application performance (serializing to XML just to reserialize to HTML
>seems like an unnecessary performance hit)? How do they affect
>development time (all of them seem to require extra effort to develop
>(i.e. compiling a new servlet for each view, etc)?
>
>Thanks for the recommendations,
>Aaron
>
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
>For additional commands, e-mail: struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
>
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
>For additional commands, e-mail: struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
Re: My View Is Messy
Posted by Aaron Longwell <li...@newmedialogic.com>.
Just by way of update... I've latched on to JSTL. The Expression
Language is great. Cleans things up a lot.
I can only understand the XSLT route if multiple view formats are
necessary (PDF, XML, HTML, etc).
Sandeep Takhar wrote:
>I was thinking of doing xml/xslt, but at the end of
>the day I think it is much cleaner in struts/tiles
>etc...
>
>sandeep
>--- Andrew Hill <an...@gridnode.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>><snip>
>>(serializing to XML just to reserialize to HTML
>>seems like an unnecessary
>>performance hit)
>></snip>
>>
>>Yeh, Id imagine it can get pretty expensive when the
>>server is under heavy
>>load.
>>
>>I wouldnt want to do that for amazon.com type sites
>>... although actually
>>for xslt, I think the modern browsers can understand
>>it, so you could just
>>write the xml to the response from jsp and whatever
>>it is you need to do
>>tell the browser where to pull the stylesheet and
>>let it do the grunt
>>work... havent tried it myself though. Have you
>>looked at the stxx extension
>>yet?
>>
>>Really though I reckon what you want to look at is
>>the tiles extension, and
>>for smaller 'fiddly bits' that reoccur a lot banging
>>together your own jsp
>>tags.
>>
>>oh yeah! - The other thing you should look at
>>(first!) is JSTL and/or the
>>struts-el tags as I believe they support a somewhat
>>more concise (and
>>certainly less ugly) syntax for what your doing in
>>that example.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Aaron Longwell
>>[mailto:listservs@newmedialogic.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2003 21:27
>>To: Struts-User
>>Subject: My View Is Messy
>>
>>
>>Morning everyone,
>>
>>I have been working on an event manager application
>>in Struts for about
>>3 days. I'm just getting to the point of displaying
>>a monthly calendar
>>full of events. I finished up the JSP last night,
>>and it's a mess.
>>First, there's a lot of code in it. For example, to
>>print out the event
>>time, name, and description looks like this:
>>
>><dt:format date="<%= event.getStartDate() %>"
>>pattern="hh:mma"/> -
>><dt:format date="<%= event.getEndDate() %>"
>>pattern="hh:mma"/> :
>><bean:write name="event" property="title"/><br/>
>><bean:write name="event" property="description"/>
>>
>>All that code just to print this:
>>
>>4:00pm - 5:00pm : Watch TV<br/>
>>Watch TV event description
>>
>>Cold Fusion salespeople always tout the fact that
>>Cold Fusion is
>>"tag-based." I've always thought markup tags for
>>dynamic content took up
>>way too much space in the HTML.... I don't like Cold
>>Fusion. My view is
>>starting to look like Cold Fusion.
>>
>>I've looking for some recommendations for better
>>view frameworks. Do you
>>use Velocity? Do you use an implementation of XSLT?
>>How do these affect
>>application performance (serializing to XML just to
>>reserialize to HTML
>>seems like an unnecessary performance hit)? How do
>>they affect
>>development time (all of them seem to require extra
>>effort to develop
>>(i.e. compiling a new servlet for each view, etc)?
>>
>>Thanks for the recommendations,
>>Aaron
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>>To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>>struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
>>For additional commands, e-mail:
>>struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>>To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>>struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
>>For additional commands, e-mail:
>>struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>__________________________________
>Do you Yahoo!?
>SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!
>http://sbc.yahoo.com
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
>For additional commands, e-mail: struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
RE: My View Is Messy
Posted by Sandeep Takhar <sa...@yahoo.com>.
I was thinking of doing xml/xslt, but at the end of
the day I think it is much cleaner in struts/tiles
etc...
sandeep
--- Andrew Hill <an...@gridnode.com>
wrote:
> <snip>
> (serializing to XML just to reserialize to HTML
> seems like an unnecessary
> performance hit)
> </snip>
>
> Yeh, Id imagine it can get pretty expensive when the
> server is under heavy
> load.
>
> I wouldnt want to do that for amazon.com type sites
> ... although actually
> for xslt, I think the modern browsers can understand
> it, so you could just
> write the xml to the response from jsp and whatever
> it is you need to do
> tell the browser where to pull the stylesheet and
> let it do the grunt
> work... havent tried it myself though. Have you
> looked at the stxx extension
> yet?
>
> Really though I reckon what you want to look at is
> the tiles extension, and
> for smaller 'fiddly bits' that reoccur a lot banging
> together your own jsp
> tags.
>
> oh yeah! - The other thing you should look at
> (first!) is JSTL and/or the
> struts-el tags as I believe they support a somewhat
> more concise (and
> certainly less ugly) syntax for what your doing in
> that example.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Longwell
> [mailto:listservs@newmedialogic.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2003 21:27
> To: Struts-User
> Subject: My View Is Messy
>
>
> Morning everyone,
>
> I have been working on an event manager application
> in Struts for about
> 3 days. I'm just getting to the point of displaying
> a monthly calendar
> full of events. I finished up the JSP last night,
> and it's a mess.
> First, there's a lot of code in it. For example, to
> print out the event
> time, name, and description looks like this:
>
> <dt:format date="<%= event.getStartDate() %>"
> pattern="hh:mma"/> -
> <dt:format date="<%= event.getEndDate() %>"
> pattern="hh:mma"/> :
> <bean:write name="event" property="title"/><br/>
> <bean:write name="event" property="description"/>
>
> All that code just to print this:
>
> 4:00pm - 5:00pm : Watch TV<br/>
> Watch TV event description
>
> Cold Fusion salespeople always tout the fact that
> Cold Fusion is
> "tag-based." I've always thought markup tags for
> dynamic content took up
> way too much space in the HTML.... I don't like Cold
> Fusion. My view is
> starting to look like Cold Fusion.
>
> I've looking for some recommendations for better
> view frameworks. Do you
> use Velocity? Do you use an implementation of XSLT?
> How do these affect
> application performance (serializing to XML just to
> reserialize to HTML
> seems like an unnecessary performance hit)? How do
> they affect
> development time (all of them seem to require extra
> effort to develop
> (i.e. compiling a new servlet for each view, etc)?
>
> Thanks for the recommendations,
> Aaron
>
>
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail:
> struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
>
>
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail:
> struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
>
__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!
http://sbc.yahoo.com
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
RE: My View Is Messy
Posted by Andrew Hill <an...@gridnode.com>.
<snip>
(serializing to XML just to reserialize to HTML seems like an unnecessary
performance hit)
</snip>
Yeh, Id imagine it can get pretty expensive when the server is under heavy
load.
I wouldnt want to do that for amazon.com type sites ... although actually
for xslt, I think the modern browsers can understand it, so you could just
write the xml to the response from jsp and whatever it is you need to do
tell the browser where to pull the stylesheet and let it do the grunt
work... havent tried it myself though. Have you looked at the stxx extension
yet?
Really though I reckon what you want to look at is the tiles extension, and
for smaller 'fiddly bits' that reoccur a lot banging together your own jsp
tags.
oh yeah! - The other thing you should look at (first!) is JSTL and/or the
struts-el tags as I believe they support a somewhat more concise (and
certainly less ugly) syntax for what your doing in that example.
-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Longwell [mailto:listservs@newmedialogic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2003 21:27
To: Struts-User
Subject: My View Is Messy
Morning everyone,
I have been working on an event manager application in Struts for about
3 days. I'm just getting to the point of displaying a monthly calendar
full of events. I finished up the JSP last night, and it's a mess.
First, there's a lot of code in it. For example, to print out the event
time, name, and description looks like this:
<dt:format date="<%= event.getStartDate() %>" pattern="hh:mma"/> -
<dt:format date="<%= event.getEndDate() %>" pattern="hh:mma"/> :
<bean:write name="event" property="title"/><br/>
<bean:write name="event" property="description"/>
All that code just to print this:
4:00pm - 5:00pm : Watch TV<br/>
Watch TV event description
Cold Fusion salespeople always tout the fact that Cold Fusion is
"tag-based." I've always thought markup tags for dynamic content took up
way too much space in the HTML.... I don't like Cold Fusion. My view is
starting to look like Cold Fusion.
I've looking for some recommendations for better view frameworks. Do you
use Velocity? Do you use an implementation of XSLT? How do these affect
application performance (serializing to XML just to reserialize to HTML
seems like an unnecessary performance hit)? How do they affect
development time (all of them seem to require extra effort to develop
(i.e. compiling a new servlet for each view, etc)?
Thanks for the recommendations,
Aaron
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: struts-user-help@jakarta.apache.org