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AW: AW: AW: [T5] How to get ampersand (&) rendered raw / notencodedas &?

Hi Martin (G.),

   dude I wasn't aware of it either. Nice to know! Thanks!


Cheers,

Martin (Kersten) 

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Martin Grotzke [mailto:martin.grotzke@javakaffee.de] 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. März 2008 19:39
An: Tapestry users
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [T5] How to get ampersand (&) rendered raw / notencodedas &amp;?

On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 18:53 +0100, Martin Kersten wrote:
> Hi Martin (G.),
> 
>   and to recap it would result into &amp; replacements and it would be 
> interpreted by some browsers correctly and some incorrectly?
Hopefully all browsers would interpret &amp; correctly as & when sending the request - as Filip wrote, also referencing http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/problems.html#amp


> So <t:outputraw> wont help. I see. Any solution (beside providing an 
> iframe component). I would like to see a 'raw:' binding or do I miss 
> something?
The solution is that &amp; is totally fine and simply I was wrong when I thought this would end up with &amp; going into the request...

So nothing has to be done or changed or anything :)

Thanx && cheers,
Martin

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Martin (Kersten)
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Martin Grotzke [mailto:martin.grotzke@javakaffee.de]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. März 2008 18:37
> An: Tapestry users
> Betreff: Re: AW: [T5] How to get ampersand (&) rendered raw / not encodedas &amp;?
> 
> Hi Martin (K.) :)
> 
> just to have this complete, the template part was this:
> 
> <iframe src="http://foo/?foo=bar&${queryString}"
> 
> with queryString beeing a page property...
> 
> Cheers,
> Martin
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 18:11 +0100, Martin Kersten wrote:
> > Hi Martin,
> > 
> >   how is the query string is appended? There is always a difference 
> > in writing text and html. If you write text everything gets 
> > converted. If you write html (raw) everything will work.
> > 
> > Please just post the tml-part in question. Maybe we can give a shorty for it.
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Martin (Kersten)
> > 
> > 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: joshcanfield@gmail.com [mailto:joshcanfield@gmail.com] Im 
> > Auftrag von Josh Canfield
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. März 2008 18:06
> > An: Tapestry users
> > Betreff: Re: [T5] How to get ampersand (&) rendered raw / not encoded as &amp;?
> > 
> > Hi Martin,
> > 
> > I'm confused by your statement:
> > > I would say that a request parameter appended with 
> > > &amp;param=value would be seen by the server as amp;param instead of just param.
> > 
> > Does this mean that you are seeing a problem on the server side? What you are describing is not what I would expect, if you are seeing this then there might be something else going on.
> > 
> > Josh
> > 
> > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Martin Grotzke <ma...@javakaffee.de> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 14:19 +0100, Chris Lewis wrote:
> > > > Martin,
> > > >
> > > > I'm guessing your mail client converted Josh's message because 
> > > > it rendered the & in the url as &amp; - just as you have 
> > > > explained and shown.
> > > Ok, thanx :)
> > >
> > > >  As he said, url's with &amp; in place of & are actually correct 
> > > > and should not cause problems (I personally have never seen 
> > > > these urls cause any).
> > > I would say that a request parameter appended with 
> > > &amp;param=value would be seen by the server as amp;param instead of just param.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Martin
> > >
> > > >
> > > > chris
> > > >
> > > > Martin Grotzke wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 15:24 -0700, Josh Canfield wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> If I am understanding you correctly, you are getting 
> > > > >> something like this in your source:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> <iframe src="http://host/page?arg1=val1&arg2=val2"></iframe>
> > > > >>
> > > > > Nope, unfortunately I get src="http://host/page?arg1=val1&arg2=val2"
> > >
> > > > > so the & is rendered as &amp;
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Martin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> That is actually the correct behavior and it shouldn't be 
> > > > >> causing a problem in your browser. Are you seeing a problem?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/problems.html#amp
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Josh
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Martin Grotzke 
> > > > >> <ma...@javakaffee.de> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I have a an html element (iframe) that get's a property of 
> > > > >>> my page class (the current query string) appended to its src attribute.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> The query string may contain the "&" char, which always gets 
> > > > >>> expanded as "&amp;". Is there any possibility to prevent T5 from encoding this char?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Thanx && cheers,
> > > > >>> Martin
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: AW: AW: AW: [T5] How to get ampersand (&) rendered raw / notencodedas &?

Posted by "Filip S. Adamsen" <fs...@fsadev.com>.
I believe Josh Canfield dug up the W3C reference to begin with.

Credit where credit is due. :)

-Filip

On 2008-03-18 19:53, Martin Grotzke wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 19:42 +0100, Martin Kersten wrote:
>> Hi Martin (G.),
>>
>>    dude I wasn't aware of it either. Nice to know! Thanks!
> Thanx to Filip :)
> 
> Cheers,
> Martin
> 
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Martin (Kersten) 
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Martin Grotzke [mailto:martin.grotzke@javakaffee.de] 
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. März 2008 19:39
>> An: Tapestry users
>> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [T5] How to get ampersand (&) rendered raw / notencodedas &amp;?
>>
>> On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 18:53 +0100, Martin Kersten wrote:
>>> Hi Martin (G.),
>>>
>>>   and to recap it would result into &amp; replacements and it would be 
>>> interpreted by some browsers correctly and some incorrectly?
>> Hopefully all browsers would interpret &amp; correctly as & when sending the request - as Filip wrote, also referencing http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/problems.html#amp
>>
>>
>>> So <t:outputraw> wont help. I see. Any solution (beside providing an 
>>> iframe component). I would like to see a 'raw:' binding or do I miss 
>>> something?
>> The solution is that &amp; is totally fine and simply I was wrong when I thought this would end up with &amp; going into the request...
>>
>> So nothing has to be done or changed or anything :)
>>
>> Thanx && cheers,
>> Martin
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Martin (Kersten)
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: Martin Grotzke [mailto:martin.grotzke@javakaffee.de]
>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. März 2008 18:37
>>> An: Tapestry users
>>> Betreff: Re: AW: [T5] How to get ampersand (&) rendered raw / not encodedas &amp;?
>>>
>>> Hi Martin (K.) :)
>>>
>>> just to have this complete, the template part was this:
>>>
>>> <iframe src="http://foo/?foo=bar&${queryString}"
>>>
>>> with queryString beeing a page property...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 18:11 +0100, Martin Kersten wrote:
>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>>
>>>>   how is the query string is appended? There is always a difference 
>>>> in writing text and html. If you write text everything gets 
>>>> converted. If you write html (raw) everything will work.
>>>>
>>>> Please just post the tml-part in question. Maybe we can give a shorty for it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Martin (Kersten)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: joshcanfield@gmail.com [mailto:joshcanfield@gmail.com] Im 
>>>> Auftrag von Josh Canfield
>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. März 2008 18:06
>>>> An: Tapestry users
>>>> Betreff: Re: [T5] How to get ampersand (&) rendered raw / not encoded as &amp;?
>>>>
>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>>
>>>> I'm confused by your statement:
>>>>> I would say that a request parameter appended with 
>>>>> &amp;param=value would be seen by the server as amp;param instead of just param.
>>>> Does this mean that you are seeing a problem on the server side? What you are describing is not what I would expect, if you are seeing this then there might be something else going on.
>>>>
>>>> Josh
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Martin Grotzke <ma...@javakaffee.de> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 14:19 +0100, Chris Lewis wrote:
>>>>>> Martin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm guessing your mail client converted Josh's message because 
>>>>>> it rendered the & in the url as &amp; - just as you have 
>>>>>> explained and shown.
>>>>> Ok, thanx :)
>>>>>
>>>>>>  As he said, url's with &amp; in place of & are actually correct 
>>>>>> and should not cause problems (I personally have never seen 
>>>>>> these urls cause any).
>>>>> I would say that a request parameter appended with 
>>>>> &amp;param=value would be seen by the server as amp;param instead of just param.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Martin
>>>>>
>>>>>> chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Martin Grotzke wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 15:24 -0700, Josh Canfield wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I am understanding you correctly, you are getting 
>>>>>>>> something like this in your source:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <iframe src="http://host/page?arg1=val1&arg2=val2"></iframe>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, unfortunately I get src="http://host/page?arg1=val1&arg2=val2"
>>>>>>> so the & is rendered as &amp;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is actually the correct behavior and it shouldn't be 
>>>>>>>> causing a problem in your browser. Are you seeing a problem?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/problems.html#amp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Josh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Martin Grotzke 
>>>>>>>> <ma...@javakaffee.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a an html element (iframe) that get's a property of 
>>>>>>>>> my page class (the current query string) appended to its src attribute.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The query string may contain the "&" char, which always gets 
>>>>>>>>> expanded as "&amp;". Is there any possibility to prevent T5 from encoding this char?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanx && cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: AW: AW: AW: [T5] How to get ampersand (&) rendered raw / notencodedas &?

Posted by Martin Grotzke <ma...@javakaffee.de>.
On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 19:42 +0100, Martin Kersten wrote:
> Hi Martin (G.),
> 
>    dude I wasn't aware of it either. Nice to know! Thanks!
Thanx to Filip :)

Cheers,
Martin

> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Martin (Kersten) 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Martin Grotzke [mailto:martin.grotzke@javakaffee.de] 
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. März 2008 19:39
> An: Tapestry users
> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [T5] How to get ampersand (&) rendered raw / notencodedas &amp;?
> 
> On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 18:53 +0100, Martin Kersten wrote:
> > Hi Martin (G.),
> > 
> >   and to recap it would result into &amp; replacements and it would be 
> > interpreted by some browsers correctly and some incorrectly?
> Hopefully all browsers would interpret &amp; correctly as & when sending the request - as Filip wrote, also referencing http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/problems.html#amp
> 
> 
> > So <t:outputraw> wont help. I see. Any solution (beside providing an 
> > iframe component). I would like to see a 'raw:' binding or do I miss 
> > something?
> The solution is that &amp; is totally fine and simply I was wrong when I thought this would end up with &amp; going into the request...
> 
> So nothing has to be done or changed or anything :)
> 
> Thanx && cheers,
> Martin
> 
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Martin (Kersten)
> > 
> > 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Martin Grotzke [mailto:martin.grotzke@javakaffee.de]
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. März 2008 18:37
> > An: Tapestry users
> > Betreff: Re: AW: [T5] How to get ampersand (&) rendered raw / not encodedas &amp;?
> > 
> > Hi Martin (K.) :)
> > 
> > just to have this complete, the template part was this:
> > 
> > <iframe src="http://foo/?foo=bar&${queryString}"
> > 
> > with queryString beeing a page property...
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Martin
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 18:11 +0100, Martin Kersten wrote:
> > > Hi Martin,
> > > 
> > >   how is the query string is appended? There is always a difference 
> > > in writing text and html. If you write text everything gets 
> > > converted. If you write html (raw) everything will work.
> > > 
> > > Please just post the tml-part in question. Maybe we can give a shorty for it.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > 
> > > Martin (Kersten)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: joshcanfield@gmail.com [mailto:joshcanfield@gmail.com] Im 
> > > Auftrag von Josh Canfield
> > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. März 2008 18:06
> > > An: Tapestry users
> > > Betreff: Re: [T5] How to get ampersand (&) rendered raw / not encoded as &amp;?
> > > 
> > > Hi Martin,
> > > 
> > > I'm confused by your statement:
> > > > I would say that a request parameter appended with 
> > > > &amp;param=value would be seen by the server as amp;param instead of just param.
> > > 
> > > Does this mean that you are seeing a problem on the server side? What you are describing is not what I would expect, if you are seeing this then there might be something else going on.
> > > 
> > > Josh
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Martin Grotzke <ma...@javakaffee.de> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 14:19 +0100, Chris Lewis wrote:
> > > > > Martin,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm guessing your mail client converted Josh's message because 
> > > > > it rendered the & in the url as &amp; - just as you have 
> > > > > explained and shown.
> > > > Ok, thanx :)
> > > >
> > > > >  As he said, url's with &amp; in place of & are actually correct 
> > > > > and should not cause problems (I personally have never seen 
> > > > > these urls cause any).
> > > > I would say that a request parameter appended with 
> > > > &amp;param=value would be seen by the server as amp;param instead of just param.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Martin
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > chris
> > > > >
> > > > > Martin Grotzke wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 15:24 -0700, Josh Canfield wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> If I am understanding you correctly, you are getting 
> > > > > >> something like this in your source:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> <iframe src="http://host/page?arg1=val1&arg2=val2"></iframe>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > > Nope, unfortunately I get src="http://host/page?arg1=val1&arg2=val2"
> > > >
> > > > > > so the & is rendered as &amp;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Martin
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> That is actually the correct behavior and it shouldn't be 
> > > > > >> causing a problem in your browser. Are you seeing a problem?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/problems.html#amp
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Josh
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Martin Grotzke 
> > > > > >> <ma...@javakaffee.de> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I have a an html element (iframe) that get's a property of 
> > > > > >>> my page class (the current query string) appended to its src attribute.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> The query string may contain the "&" char, which always gets 
> > > > > >>> expanded as "&amp;". Is there any possibility to prevent T5 from encoding this char?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Thanx && cheers,
> > > > > >>> Martin
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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