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Question: Howto Google Season of Docs submissions
Hello,
In Apache Airflow we have some people who have some ideas around improving
our documentation and we would like to participate in Google Season of Docs.
https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
We already participated in 2019 and back then it was agreed that the
projects should submit their proposals individually (not as Apache Software
Foundation but as Apache Airflow) because that increased the chances of
getting more projects (there were limits of projects per organisation).
However looking at the FAQ [1], there are significant changes this year and
they require much more of an "organization" to manage - i.e. Google will
give grants to the organisations, and the organizations are supposed to pay
the writers. So it is much more "formal" and I am not sure how it plays
with the ASF rules.
Is there anyone who could help with that?
Here is the relevant part from the FAQ:
How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and 2020?
The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from prior
years, including:
* Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched with
organizations
* Organizations submit project proposals as part of their application,
including a budget and proposed metrics
* Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay technical
writers
* Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
[1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq
J.
Re: Question: Howto Google Season of Docs submissions
Posted by Zhiyuan Ju <ju...@apache.org>.
Hi,
I have submitted "the 2022 Season of Docs: Organization Application
form[1]" 2 weeks ago, but I couldn't find related records from this form or
any feedback from organizations.
How to confirm if my submission was successful?
[1]
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSehVjMLUjnoPgS8kX4ErpE76N-KWc3AgrCyCxe7bRrtDm6tew/viewform?pli=1&pli=1
Best Regards!
@ Zhiyuan Ju <https://github.com/juzhiyuan>
Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> 于2022年3月16日周三 17:56写道：
> I will see Myrle tomorrow in Berlin. Will talk to her :).
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 10:52 AM Roberto Galoppini
> <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 9:27 AM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Just to summarize the current state for anyone who would like to
> participate.
> >>
> >> 1) We continue to have a discussion in legal-discuss about the way we
> >> could do it and it seems that it is doable.
> >> 2) If anyone else wants to submit their project - GSoD confirmed that
> >> we can make one submission per ASF project (so we are not limited to
> >> one Technical Writer for the whole ASF) - that will have us and Dinesh
> >> happy - but also others might participate.
> >> 3) We have 9 more days for submissions - so if anyone wants to submit
> >> a project, this is now rather likely it might be possible, so start
> >> thinking and preparing your submission now :).
> >> 4) We have two ways how to approach (after discussion with Greg Stein
> >> from infra and some responses from GSoD):
> >>
> >> * From Greg: We should be able to handle mechanics by Infra if needed
> >> * From GSoD: It seems that we could do it all without actually going
> >> through ASF accounts - we could open an open-collective account. And
> >> the funds could go through Open Source Collective
> >> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/org-payments
> >>
> >> The option with Open Collective seems to be much more straightforward
> >> (especially that we have Roberto on board :) .
> >
> >
> > For now I just presented my candidacy, it's up to the board to take a
> decision on that matter.
> > In any case I'm happy to help Craig or Myrle with that.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Roberto
> >
> >>
> >> We have discussion at legal-discuss to confirm it:
> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/f386obw4gvdcr1r3myzh58ysr5l9tmpo
> >>
> >> Once I get confirmation, I will establish the mechanics of it and let
> >> everyone know.
> >>
> >> J.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 5:48 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I don't have the link to the programme, but I think the big
> difference 3 years ago was that we could simply sign-up, get the person
> approved and Google Season of Docs managed establishing the "legal"
> relationship and payments. I will ask at the legal-discuss - good idea (I
> will CC: you and Dinesh then.
> >> >
> >> > J.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 4:57 PM Roberto Galoppini <
> roberto.galoppini@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:49 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Yeah, The problem is that they now require the organizations to Pay
> (at least in GsOD). So anyone who steps up needs to know first if this is
> at all possible within the ASF as an organisation (when we submit the
> project we confirm that the organisation is OK with accepting the terms, so
> without someone confirming that, it might not be possible.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Roberto,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Maybe - seeing you stepped up as assistant treasurer :) - maybe
> that would be a first thing for you to take a look at ?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Sure Jarek, I'm happy to, even if I didn't have a chance yet to talk
> to Craig and I'm not sure what my involvement would be.
> >> >>
> >> >> I had a look at the available documentation and I guess Legal should
> have the last word on this matter, IANAL at a first glance seems ok to me.
> >> >>
> >> >> In case we'd decide to apply we need to have an OpenCollective
> account and I could definitely help with that, being an OpenCollective host
> myself for a couple of years.
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We do not know if the new rules from Google Season of Docs are
> possible to handle by the ASF:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
> >> >>>
> >> >>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and
> 2020?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm not familiar with the program. Do you have any pointers to the
> older versions?
> >> >>
> >> >> Roberto
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from
> prior years, including:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched
> with organizations
> >> >>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their
> application, including a budget and proposed metrics
> >> >>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay
> technical writers
> >> >>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> J.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 3:06 AM Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Ok all that has changed this year.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> > On Mar 9, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > I'm not familiar with current procedure unfortunately
> >> >>>> > In GSOC - Google handles all payments to participants
> >> >>>> > Mentor stipends goes to ASF budget
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 07:59 Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> How do you suggest we manage the logistics of accepting the
> grant and
> >> >>>> >> making payments to the technical writers in various geographys?
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> solomax666@gmail.com>
> >> >>>> >> wrote:
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> I would suggest someone to step in to be ASF GSoD org admin
> >> >>>> >>> And submit ASF application
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 00:00 Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>> The Cassandra community is also interested in participating
> in GSoD
> >> >>>> >> 2022.
> >> >>>> >>>> But the new rules seem to require ASF-level involvement.
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:18 AM, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>>> >>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>> BTW. We have time to 25th of March for the submission.
> >> >>>> >>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:14 PM Jarek Potiuk <
> jarek@potiuk.com>
> >> >>>> >> wrote:
> >> >>>> >>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> Hello,
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> In Apache Airflow we have some people who have some ideas
> around
> >> >>>> >>>> improving
> >> >>>> >>>>>> our documentation and we would like to participate in
> Google Season of
> >> >>>> >>>> Docs.
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> We already participated in 2019 and back then it was agreed
> that the
> >> >>>> >>>>>> projects should submit their proposals individually (not as
> Apache
> >> >>>> >>>> Software
> >> >>>> >>>>>> Foundation but as Apache Airflow) because that increased
> the chances
> >> >>>> >> of
> >> >>>> >>>>>> getting more projects (there were limits of projects per
> >> >>>> >> organisation).
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> However looking at the FAQ [1], there are significant
> changes this
> >> >>>> >> year
> >> >>>> >>>>>> and they require much more of an "organization" to manage -
> i.e.
> >> >>>> >> Google
> >> >>>> >>>>>> will give grants to the organisations, and the
> organizations are
> >> >>>> >>>> supposed
> >> >>>> >>>>>> to pay the writers. So it is much more "formal" and I am
> not sure how
> >> >>>> >> it
> >> >>>> >>>>>> plays with the ASF rules.
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> Is there anyone who could help with that?
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> Here is the relevant part from the FAQ:
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs
> 2019 and 2020?
> >> >>>> >>>>>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes
> from prior
> >> >>>> >>>>>> years, including:
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be
> matched with
> >> >>>> >>>>>> organizations
> >> >>>> >>>>>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their
> application,
> >> >>>> >>>>>> including a budget and proposed metrics
> >> >>>> >>>>>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to
> pay
> >> >>>> >> technical
> >> >>>> >>>>>> writers
> >> >>>> >>>>>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>> J.
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
> >> >>>> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> dev-help@community.apache.org
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>>>
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >> >>>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
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>
Re: Question: Howto Google Season of Docs submissions
Posted by Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>.
I will see Myrle tomorrow in Berlin. Will talk to her :).
On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 10:52 AM Roberto Galoppini
<ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 9:27 AM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>>
>> Just to summarize the current state for anyone who would like to participate.
>>
>> 1) We continue to have a discussion in legal-discuss about the way we
>> could do it and it seems that it is doable.
>> 2) If anyone else wants to submit their project - GSoD confirmed that
>> we can make one submission per ASF project (so we are not limited to
>> one Technical Writer for the whole ASF) - that will have us and Dinesh
>> happy - but also others might participate.
>> 3) We have 9 more days for submissions - so if anyone wants to submit
>> a project, this is now rather likely it might be possible, so start
>> thinking and preparing your submission now :).
>> 4) We have two ways how to approach (after discussion with Greg Stein
>> from infra and some responses from GSoD):
>>
>> * From Greg: We should be able to handle mechanics by Infra if needed
>> * From GSoD: It seems that we could do it all without actually going
>> through ASF accounts - we could open an open-collective account. And
>> the funds could go through Open Source Collective
>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/org-payments
>>
>> The option with Open Collective seems to be much more straightforward
>> (especially that we have Roberto on board :) .
>
>
> For now I just presented my candidacy, it's up to the board to take a decision on that matter.
> In any case I'm happy to help Craig or Myrle with that.
>
> Best,
>
> Roberto
>
>>
>> We have discussion at legal-discuss to confirm it:
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/f386obw4gvdcr1r3myzh58ysr5l9tmpo
>>
>> Once I get confirmation, I will establish the mechanics of it and let
>> everyone know.
>>
>> J.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 5:48 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I don't have the link to the programme, but I think the big difference 3 years ago was that we could simply sign-up, get the person approved and Google Season of Docs managed establishing the "legal" relationship and payments. I will ask at the legal-discuss - good idea (I will CC: you and Dinesh then.
>> >
>> > J.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 4:57 PM Roberto Galoppini <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:49 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Yeah, The problem is that they now require the organizations to Pay (at least in GsOD). So anyone who steps up needs to know first if this is at all possible within the ASF as an organisation (when we submit the project we confirm that the organisation is OK with accepting the terms, so without someone confirming that, it might not be possible.
>> >>>
>> >>> Roberto,
>> >>>
>> >>> Maybe - seeing you stepped up as assistant treasurer :) - maybe that would be a first thing for you to take a look at ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sure Jarek, I'm happy to, even if I didn't have a chance yet to talk to Craig and I'm not sure what my involvement would be.
>> >>
>> >> I had a look at the available documentation and I guess Legal should have the last word on this matter, IANAL at a first glance seems ok to me.
>> >>
>> >> In case we'd decide to apply we need to have an OpenCollective account and I could definitely help with that, being an OpenCollective host myself for a couple of years.
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> We do not know if the new rules from Google Season of Docs are possible to handle by the ASF:
>> >>>
>> >>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
>> >>>
>> >>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and 2020?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I'm not familiar with the program. Do you have any pointers to the older versions?
>> >>
>> >> Roberto
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from prior years, including:
>> >>>
>> >>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched with organizations
>> >>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their application, including a budget and proposed metrics
>> >>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay technical writers
>> >>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> J.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 3:06 AM Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ok all that has changed this year.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > On Mar 9, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > I'm not familiar with current procedure unfortunately
>> >>>> > In GSOC - Google handles all payments to participants
>> >>>> > Mentor stipends goes to ASF budget
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 07:59 Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> How do you suggest we manage the logistics of accepting the grant and
>> >>>> >> making payments to the technical writers in various geographys?
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> >> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> I would suggest someone to step in to be ASF GSoD org admin
>> >>>> >>> And submit ASF application
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 00:00 Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>>
>> >>>> >>>> The Cassandra community is also interested in participating in GSoD
>> >>>> >> 2022.
>> >>>> >>>> But the new rules seem to require ASF-level involvement.
>> >>>> >>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:18 AM, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>> BTW. We have time to 25th of March for the submission.
>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:14 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>
>> >>>> >> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>> Hello,
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>> In Apache Airflow we have some people who have some ideas around
>> >>>> >>>> improving
>> >>>> >>>>>> our documentation and we would like to participate in Google Season of
>> >>>> >>>> Docs.
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>> We already participated in 2019 and back then it was agreed that the
>> >>>> >>>>>> projects should submit their proposals individually (not as Apache
>> >>>> >>>> Software
>> >>>> >>>>>> Foundation but as Apache Airflow) because that increased the chances
>> >>>> >> of
>> >>>> >>>>>> getting more projects (there were limits of projects per
>> >>>> >> organisation).
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>> However looking at the FAQ [1], there are significant changes this
>> >>>> >> year
>> >>>> >>>>>> and they require much more of an "organization" to manage - i.e.
>> >>>> >> Google
>> >>>> >>>>>> will give grants to the organisations, and the organizations are
>> >>>> >>>> supposed
>> >>>> >>>>>> to pay the writers. So it is much more "formal" and I am not sure how
>> >>>> >> it
>> >>>> >>>>>> plays with the ASF rules.
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>> Is there anyone who could help with that?
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>> Here is the relevant part from the FAQ:
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and 2020?
>> >>>> >>>>>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from prior
>> >>>> >>>>>> years, including:
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched with
>> >>>> >>>>>> organizations
>> >>>> >>>>>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their application,
>> >>>> >>>>>> including a budget and proposed metrics
>> >>>> >>>>>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay
>> >>>> >> technical
>> >>>> >>>>>> writers
>> >>>> >>>>>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>> [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>> J.
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>>>
>> >>>> >>>>
>> >>>> >>>>
>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
>> >>>> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
>> >>>> >>>>
>> >>>> >>>>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
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Re: Question: Howto Google Season of Docs submissions
Posted by Roberto Galoppini <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 9:27 AM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> Just to summarize the current state for anyone who would like to
> participate.
>
> 1) We continue to have a discussion in legal-discuss about the way we
> could do it and it seems that it is doable.
> 2) If anyone else wants to submit their project - GSoD confirmed that
> we can make one submission per ASF project (so we are not limited to
> one Technical Writer for the whole ASF) - that will have us and Dinesh
> happy - but also others might participate.
> 3) We have 9 more days for submissions - so if anyone wants to submit
> a project, this is now rather likely it might be possible, so start
> thinking and preparing your submission now :).
> 4) We have two ways how to approach (after discussion with Greg Stein
> from infra and some responses from GSoD):
>
> * From Greg: We should be able to handle mechanics by Infra if needed
> * From GSoD: It seems that we could do it all without actually going
> through ASF accounts - we could open an open-collective account. And
> the funds could go through Open Source Collective
> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/org-payments
>
> The option with Open Collective seems to be much more straightforward
> (especially that we have Roberto on board :) .
>
For now I just presented my candidacy, it's up to the board to take a
decision on that matter.
In any case I'm happy to help Craig or Myrle with that.
Best,
Roberto
> We have discussion at legal-discuss to confirm it:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/f386obw4gvdcr1r3myzh58ysr5l9tmpo
>
> Once I get confirmation, I will establish the mechanics of it and let
> everyone know.
>
> J.
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 5:48 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't have the link to the programme, but I think the big difference 3
> years ago was that we could simply sign-up, get the person approved and
> Google Season of Docs managed establishing the "legal" relationship and
> payments. I will ask at the legal-discuss - good idea (I will CC: you and
> Dinesh then.
> >
> > J.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 4:57 PM Roberto Galoppini <
> roberto.galoppini@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:49 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, The problem is that they now require the organizations to Pay
> (at least in GsOD). So anyone who steps up needs to know first if this is
> at all possible within the ASF as an organisation (when we submit the
> project we confirm that the organisation is OK with accepting the terms, so
> without someone confirming that, it might not be possible.
> >>>
> >>> Roberto,
> >>>
> >>> Maybe - seeing you stepped up as assistant treasurer :) - maybe that
> would be a first thing for you to take a look at ?
> >>
> >>
> >> Sure Jarek, I'm happy to, even if I didn't have a chance yet to talk to
> Craig and I'm not sure what my involvement would be.
> >>
> >> I had a look at the available documentation and I guess Legal should
> have the last word on this matter, IANAL at a first glance seems ok to me.
> >>
> >> In case we'd decide to apply we need to have an OpenCollective account
> and I could definitely help with that, being an OpenCollective host myself
> for a couple of years.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> We do not know if the new rules from Google Season of Docs are
> possible to handle by the ASF:
> >>>
> >>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
> >>>
> >>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and 2020?
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm not familiar with the program. Do you have any pointers to the
> older versions?
> >>
> >> Roberto
> >>
> >>>
> >>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from prior
> years, including:
> >>>
> >>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched with
> organizations
> >>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their application,
> including a budget and proposed metrics
> >>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay
> technical writers
> >>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> J.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 3:06 AM Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Ok all that has changed this year.
> >>>>
> >>>> > On Mar 9, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I'm not familiar with current procedure unfortunately
> >>>> > In GSOC - Google handles all payments to participants
> >>>> > Mentor stipends goes to ASF budget
> >>>> >
> >>>> > from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 07:59 Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> How do you suggest we manage the logistics of accepting the grant
> and
> >>>> >> making payments to the technical writers in various geographys?
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <
> solomax666@gmail.com>
> >>>> >> wrote:
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> I would suggest someone to step in to be ASF GSoD org admin
> >>>> >>> And submit ASF application
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 00:00 Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> The Cassandra community is also interested in participating in
> GSoD
> >>>> >> 2022.
> >>>> >>>> But the new rules seem to require ASF-level involvement.
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:18 AM, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> BTW. We have time to 25th of March for the submission.
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:14 PM Jarek Potiuk <jarek@potiuk.com
> >
> >>>> >> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> Hello,
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> In Apache Airflow we have some people who have some ideas
> around
> >>>> >>>> improving
> >>>> >>>>>> our documentation and we would like to participate in Google
> Season of
> >>>> >>>> Docs.
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> We already participated in 2019 and back then it was agreed
> that the
> >>>> >>>>>> projects should submit their proposals individually (not as
> Apache
> >>>> >>>> Software
> >>>> >>>>>> Foundation but as Apache Airflow) because that increased the
> chances
> >>>> >> of
> >>>> >>>>>> getting more projects (there were limits of projects per
> >>>> >> organisation).
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> However looking at the FAQ [1], there are significant changes
> this
> >>>> >> year
> >>>> >>>>>> and they require much more of an "organization" to manage -
> i.e.
> >>>> >> Google
> >>>> >>>>>> will give grants to the organisations, and the organizations
> are
> >>>> >>>> supposed
> >>>> >>>>>> to pay the writers. So it is much more "formal" and I am not
> sure how
> >>>> >> it
> >>>> >>>>>> plays with the ASF rules.
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> Is there anyone who could help with that?
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> Here is the relevant part from the FAQ:
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019
> and 2020?
> >>>> >>>>>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes
> from prior
> >>>> >>>>>> years, including:
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be
> matched with
> >>>> >>>>>> organizations
> >>>> >>>>>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their
> application,
> >>>> >>>>>> including a budget and proposed metrics
> >>>> >>>>>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay
> >>>> >> technical
> >>>> >>>>>> writers
> >>>> >>>>>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> J.
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
> >>>> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
> >>>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
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>
Re: Question: Howto Google Season of Docs submissions
Posted by Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>.
Just to summarize the current state for anyone who would like to participate.
1) We continue to have a discussion in legal-discuss about the way we
could do it and it seems that it is doable.
2) If anyone else wants to submit their project - GSoD confirmed that
we can make one submission per ASF project (so we are not limited to
one Technical Writer for the whole ASF) - that will have us and Dinesh
happy - but also others might participate.
3) We have 9 more days for submissions - so if anyone wants to submit
a project, this is now rather likely it might be possible, so start
thinking and preparing your submission now :).
4) We have two ways how to approach (after discussion with Greg Stein
from infra and some responses from GSoD):
* From Greg: We should be able to handle mechanics by Infra if needed
* From GSoD: It seems that we could do it all without actually going
through ASF accounts - we could open an open-collective account. And
the funds could go through Open Source Collective
https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/org-payments
The option with Open Collective seems to be much more straightforward
(especially that we have Roberto on board :) .
We have discussion at legal-discuss to confirm it:
https://lists.apache.org/thread/f386obw4gvdcr1r3myzh58ysr5l9tmpo
Once I get confirmation, I will establish the mechanics of it and let
everyone know.
J.
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 5:48 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>
> I don't have the link to the programme, but I think the big difference 3 years ago was that we could simply sign-up, get the person approved and Google Season of Docs managed establishing the "legal" relationship and payments. I will ask at the legal-discuss - good idea (I will CC: you and Dinesh then.
>
> J.
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 4:57 PM Roberto Galoppini <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:49 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, The problem is that they now require the organizations to Pay (at least in GsOD). So anyone who steps up needs to know first if this is at all possible within the ASF as an organisation (when we submit the project we confirm that the organisation is OK with accepting the terms, so without someone confirming that, it might not be possible.
>>>
>>> Roberto,
>>>
>>> Maybe - seeing you stepped up as assistant treasurer :) - maybe that would be a first thing for you to take a look at ?
>>
>>
>> Sure Jarek, I'm happy to, even if I didn't have a chance yet to talk to Craig and I'm not sure what my involvement would be.
>>
>> I had a look at the available documentation and I guess Legal should have the last word on this matter, IANAL at a first glance seems ok to me.
>>
>> In case we'd decide to apply we need to have an OpenCollective account and I could definitely help with that, being an OpenCollective host myself for a couple of years.
>>
>>>
>>> We do not know if the new rules from Google Season of Docs are possible to handle by the ASF:
>>>
>>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
>>>
>>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and 2020?
>>
>>
>> I'm not familiar with the program. Do you have any pointers to the older versions?
>>
>> Roberto
>>
>>>
>>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from prior years, including:
>>>
>>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched with organizations
>>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their application, including a budget and proposed metrics
>>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay technical writers
>>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
>>>
>>>
>>> J.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 3:06 AM Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok all that has changed this year.
>>>>
>>>> > On Mar 9, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm not familiar with current procedure unfortunately
>>>> > In GSOC - Google handles all payments to participants
>>>> > Mentor stipends goes to ASF budget
>>>> >
>>>> > from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 07:59 Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> How do you suggest we manage the logistics of accepting the grant and
>>>> >> making payments to the technical writers in various geographys?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I would suggest someone to step in to be ASF GSoD org admin
>>>> >>> And submit ASF application
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 00:00 Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> The Cassandra community is also interested in participating in GSoD
>>>> >> 2022.
>>>> >>>> But the new rules seem to require ASF-level involvement.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:18 AM, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> BTW. We have time to 25th of March for the submission.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:14 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Hello,
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> In Apache Airflow we have some people who have some ideas around
>>>> >>>> improving
>>>> >>>>>> our documentation and we would like to participate in Google Season of
>>>> >>>> Docs.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> We already participated in 2019 and back then it was agreed that the
>>>> >>>>>> projects should submit their proposals individually (not as Apache
>>>> >>>> Software
>>>> >>>>>> Foundation but as Apache Airflow) because that increased the chances
>>>> >> of
>>>> >>>>>> getting more projects (there were limits of projects per
>>>> >> organisation).
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> However looking at the FAQ [1], there are significant changes this
>>>> >> year
>>>> >>>>>> and they require much more of an "organization" to manage - i.e.
>>>> >> Google
>>>> >>>>>> will give grants to the organisations, and the organizations are
>>>> >>>> supposed
>>>> >>>>>> to pay the writers. So it is much more "formal" and I am not sure how
>>>> >> it
>>>> >>>>>> plays with the ASF rules.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Is there anyone who could help with that?
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Here is the relevant part from the FAQ:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and 2020?
>>>> >>>>>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from prior
>>>> >>>>>> years, including:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched with
>>>> >>>>>> organizations
>>>> >>>>>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their application,
>>>> >>>>>> including a budget and proposed metrics
>>>> >>>>>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay
>>>> >> technical
>>>> >>>>>> writers
>>>> >>>>>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> J.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
>>>> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
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>>>> >>
>>>> >>
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>>>>
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Re: Question: Howto Google Season of Docs submissions
Posted by Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>.
I don't have the link to the programme, but I think the big difference 3
years ago was that we could simply sign-up, get the person approved and
Google Season of Docs managed establishing the "legal" relationship and
payments. I will ask at the legal-discuss - good idea (I will CC: you and
Dinesh then.
J.
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 4:57 PM Roberto Galoppini <
roberto.galoppini@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:49 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, The problem is that they now require the organizations to Pay (at
>> least in GsOD). So anyone who steps up needs to know first if this is at
>> all possible within the ASF as an organisation (when we submit the project
>> we confirm that the organisation is OK with accepting the terms, so without
>> someone confirming that, it might not be possible.
>>
>> Roberto,
>>
>> Maybe - seeing you stepped up as assistant treasurer :) - maybe that
>> would be a first thing for you to take a look at ?
>>
>
> Sure Jarek, I'm happy to, even if I didn't have a chance yet to talk to
> Craig and I'm not sure what my involvement would be.
>
> I had a look at the available documentation and I guess Legal should have
> the last word on this matter, IANAL at a first glance seems ok to me.
>
> In case we'd decide to apply we need to have an OpenCollective account and
> I could definitely help with that, being an OpenCollective host myself for
> a couple of years.
>
>
>> We do not know if the new rules from Google Season of Docs are possible
>> to handle by the ASF:
>>
>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
>>
>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and 2020?
>>
>
> I'm not familiar with the program. Do you have any pointers to the older
> versions?
>
> Roberto
>
>
>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from prior
>> years, including:
>>
>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched with
>> organizations
>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their application,
>> including a budget and proposed metrics
>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay technical
>> writers
>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
>>
>>
>> J.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 3:06 AM Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok all that has changed this year.
>>>
>>> > On Mar 9, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I'm not familiar with current procedure unfortunately
>>> > In GSOC - Google handles all payments to participants
>>> > Mentor stipends goes to ASF budget
>>> >
>>> > from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 07:59 Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> How do you suggest we manage the logistics of accepting the grant and
>>> >> making payments to the technical writers in various geographys?
>>> >>
>>> >>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I would suggest someone to step in to be ASF GSoD org admin
>>> >>> And submit ASF application
>>> >>>
>>> >>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 00:00 Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> The Cassandra community is also interested in participating in GSoD
>>> >> 2022.
>>> >>>> But the new rules seem to require ASF-level involvement.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:18 AM, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> BTW. We have time to 25th of March for the submission.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:14 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Hello,
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> In Apache Airflow we have some people who have some ideas around
>>> >>>> improving
>>> >>>>>> our documentation and we would like to participate in Google
>>> Season of
>>> >>>> Docs.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> We already participated in 2019 and back then it was agreed that
>>> the
>>> >>>>>> projects should submit their proposals individually (not as Apache
>>> >>>> Software
>>> >>>>>> Foundation but as Apache Airflow) because that increased the
>>> chances
>>> >> of
>>> >>>>>> getting more projects (there were limits of projects per
>>> >> organisation).
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> However looking at the FAQ [1], there are significant changes this
>>> >> year
>>> >>>>>> and they require much more of an "organization" to manage - i.e.
>>> >> Google
>>> >>>>>> will give grants to the organisations, and the organizations are
>>> >>>> supposed
>>> >>>>>> to pay the writers. So it is much more "formal" and I am not sure
>>> how
>>> >> it
>>> >>>>>> plays with the ASF rules.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Is there anyone who could help with that?
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Here is the relevant part from the FAQ:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and
>>> 2020?
>>> >>>>>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from
>>> prior
>>> >>>>>> years, including:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched
>>> with
>>> >>>>>> organizations
>>> >>>>>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their
>>> application,
>>> >>>>>> including a budget and proposed metrics
>>> >>>>>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay
>>> >> technical
>>> >>>>>> writers
>>> >>>>>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> J.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
>>> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
Re: Question: Howto Google Season of Docs submissions
Posted by Roberto Galoppini <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:49 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> Yeah, The problem is that they now require the organizations to Pay (at
> least in GsOD). So anyone who steps up needs to know first if this is at
> all possible within the ASF as an organisation (when we submit the project
> we confirm that the organisation is OK with accepting the terms, so without
> someone confirming that, it might not be possible.
>
> Roberto,
>
> Maybe - seeing you stepped up as assistant treasurer :) - maybe that
> would be a first thing for you to take a look at ?
>
Sure Jarek, I'm happy to, even if I didn't have a chance yet to talk to
Craig and I'm not sure what my involvement would be.
I had a look at the available documentation and I guess Legal should have
the last word on this matter, IANAL at a first glance seems ok to me.
In case we'd decide to apply we need to have an OpenCollective account and
I could definitely help with that, being an OpenCollective host myself for
a couple of years.
> We do not know if the new rules from Google Season of Docs are possible to
> handle by the ASF:
>
> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
>
> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and 2020?
>
I'm not familiar with the program. Do you have any pointers to the older
versions?
Roberto
> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from prior
> years, including:
>
> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched with
> organizations
> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their application,
> including a budget and proposed metrics
> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay technical
> writers
> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
>
>
> J.
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 3:06 AM Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Ok all that has changed this year.
>>
>> > On Mar 9, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm not familiar with current procedure unfortunately
>> > In GSOC - Google handles all payments to participants
>> > Mentor stipends goes to ASF budget
>> >
>> > from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 07:59 Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> How do you suggest we manage the logistics of accepting the grant and
>> >> making payments to the technical writers in various geographys?
>> >>
>> >>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I would suggest someone to step in to be ASF GSoD org admin
>> >>> And submit ASF application
>> >>>
>> >>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 00:00 Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The Cassandra community is also interested in participating in GSoD
>> >> 2022.
>> >>>> But the new rules seem to require ASF-level involvement.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:18 AM, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> BTW. We have time to 25th of March for the submission.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:14 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Hello,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> In Apache Airflow we have some people who have some ideas around
>> >>>> improving
>> >>>>>> our documentation and we would like to participate in Google
>> Season of
>> >>>> Docs.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> We already participated in 2019 and back then it was agreed that
>> the
>> >>>>>> projects should submit their proposals individually (not as Apache
>> >>>> Software
>> >>>>>> Foundation but as Apache Airflow) because that increased the
>> chances
>> >> of
>> >>>>>> getting more projects (there were limits of projects per
>> >> organisation).
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> However looking at the FAQ [1], there are significant changes this
>> >> year
>> >>>>>> and they require much more of an "organization" to manage - i.e.
>> >> Google
>> >>>>>> will give grants to the organisations, and the organizations are
>> >>>> supposed
>> >>>>>> to pay the writers. So it is much more "formal" and I am not sure
>> how
>> >> it
>> >>>>>> plays with the ASF rules.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Is there anyone who could help with that?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Here is the relevant part from the FAQ:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and
>> 2020?
>> >>>>>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from
>> prior
>> >>>>>> years, including:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched
>> with
>> >>>>>> organizations
>> >>>>>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their
>> application,
>> >>>>>> including a budget and proposed metrics
>> >>>>>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay
>> >> technical
>> >>>>>> writers
>> >>>>>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> J.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
>> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
Re: Question: Howto Google Season of Docs submissions
Posted by Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>.
Yeah, The problem is that they now require the organizations to Pay (at
least in GsOD). So anyone who steps up needs to know first if this is at
all possible within the ASF as an organisation (when we submit the project
we confirm that the organisation is OK with accepting the terms, so without
someone confirming that, it might not be possible.
Roberto,
Maybe - seeing you stepped up as assistant treasurer :) - maybe that
would be a first thing for you to take a look at ? We do not know if the
new rules from Google Season of Docs are possible to handle by the ASF:
https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and 2020?
The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from prior
years, including:
* Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched with
organizations
* Organizations submit project proposals as part of their application,
including a budget and proposed metrics
* Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay technical
writers
* Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
J.
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 3:06 AM Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
> Ok all that has changed this year.
>
> > On Mar 9, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not familiar with current procedure unfortunately
> > In GSOC - Google handles all payments to participants
> > Mentor stipends goes to ASF budget
> >
> > from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
> >
> >
> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 07:59 Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> How do you suggest we manage the logistics of accepting the grant and
> >> making payments to the technical writers in various geographys?
> >>
> >>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I would suggest someone to step in to be ASF GSoD org admin
> >>> And submit ASF application
> >>>
> >>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 00:00 Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> The Cassandra community is also interested in participating in GSoD
> >> 2022.
> >>>> But the new rules seem to require ASF-level involvement.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:18 AM, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> BTW. We have time to 25th of March for the submission.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:14 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In Apache Airflow we have some people who have some ideas around
> >>>> improving
> >>>>>> our documentation and we would like to participate in Google Season
> of
> >>>> Docs.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We already participated in 2019 and back then it was agreed that the
> >>>>>> projects should submit their proposals individually (not as Apache
> >>>> Software
> >>>>>> Foundation but as Apache Airflow) because that increased the chances
> >> of
> >>>>>> getting more projects (there were limits of projects per
> >> organisation).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> However looking at the FAQ [1], there are significant changes this
> >> year
> >>>>>> and they require much more of an "organization" to manage - i.e.
> >> Google
> >>>>>> will give grants to the organisations, and the organizations are
> >>>> supposed
> >>>>>> to pay the writers. So it is much more "formal" and I am not sure
> how
> >> it
> >>>>>> plays with the ASF rules.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is there anyone who could help with that?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here is the relevant part from the FAQ:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and
> 2020?
> >>>>>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from
> prior
> >>>>>> years, including:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched
> with
> >>>>>> organizations
> >>>>>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their
> application,
> >>>>>> including a budget and proposed metrics
> >>>>>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay
> >> technical
> >>>>>> writers
> >>>>>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> J.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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Re: Question: Howto Google Season of Docs submissions
Posted by Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org>.
Ok all that has changed this year.
> On Mar 9, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm not familiar with current procedure unfortunately
> In GSOC - Google handles all payments to participants
> Mentor stipends goes to ASF budget
>
> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>
>
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 07:59 Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> How do you suggest we manage the logistics of accepting the grant and
>> making payments to the technical writers in various geographys?
>>
>>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would suggest someone to step in to be ASF GSoD org admin
>>> And submit ASF application
>>>
>>> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 00:00 Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The Cassandra community is also interested in participating in GSoD
>> 2022.
>>>> But the new rules seem to require ASF-level involvement.
>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:18 AM, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW. We have time to 25th of March for the submission.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:14 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In Apache Airflow we have some people who have some ideas around
>>>> improving
>>>>>> our documentation and we would like to participate in Google Season of
>>>> Docs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We already participated in 2019 and back then it was agreed that the
>>>>>> projects should submit their proposals individually (not as Apache
>>>> Software
>>>>>> Foundation but as Apache Airflow) because that increased the chances
>> of
>>>>>> getting more projects (there were limits of projects per
>> organisation).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However looking at the FAQ [1], there are significant changes this
>> year
>>>>>> and they require much more of an "organization" to manage - i.e.
>> Google
>>>>>> will give grants to the organisations, and the organizations are
>>>> supposed
>>>>>> to pay the writers. So it is much more "formal" and I am not sure how
>> it
>>>>>> plays with the ASF rules.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there anyone who could help with that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is the relevant part from the FAQ:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and 2020?
>>>>>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from prior
>>>>>> years, including:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched with
>>>>>> organizations
>>>>>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their application,
>>>>>> including a budget and proposed metrics
>>>>>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay
>> technical
>>>>>> writers
>>>>>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: Question: Howto Google Season of Docs submissions
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
I'm not familiar with current procedure unfortunately
In GSOC - Google handles all payments to participants
Mentor stipends goes to ASF budget
from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 07:59 Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
> How do you suggest we manage the logistics of accepting the grant and
> making payments to the technical writers in various geographys?
>
> > On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I would suggest someone to step in to be ASF GSoD org admin
> > And submit ASF application
> >
> > from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
> >
> >
> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 00:00 Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> The Cassandra community is also interested in participating in GSoD
> 2022.
> >> But the new rules seem to require ASF-level involvement.
> >>
> >>>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:18 AM, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> BTW. We have time to 25th of March for the submission.
> >>>
> >>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:14 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>> In Apache Airflow we have some people who have some ideas around
> >> improving
> >>>> our documentation and we would like to participate in Google Season of
> >> Docs.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
> >>>>
> >>>> We already participated in 2019 and back then it was agreed that the
> >>>> projects should submit their proposals individually (not as Apache
> >> Software
> >>>> Foundation but as Apache Airflow) because that increased the chances
> of
> >>>> getting more projects (there were limits of projects per
> organisation).
> >>>>
> >>>> However looking at the FAQ [1], there are significant changes this
> year
> >>>> and they require much more of an "organization" to manage - i.e.
> Google
> >>>> will give grants to the organisations, and the organizations are
> >> supposed
> >>>> to pay the writers. So it is much more "formal" and I am not sure how
> it
> >>>> plays with the ASF rules.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is there anyone who could help with that?
> >>>>
> >>>> Here is the relevant part from the FAQ:
> >>>>
> >>>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and 2020?
> >>>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from prior
> >>>> years, including:
> >>>>
> >>>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched with
> >>>> organizations
> >>>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their application,
> >>>> including a budget and proposed metrics
> >>>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay
> technical
> >>>> writers
> >>>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq
> >>>>
> >>>> J.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
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Re: Question: Howto Google Season of Docs submissions
Posted by Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org>.
How do you suggest we manage the logistics of accepting the grant and making payments to the technical writers in various geographys?
> On Mar 9, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I would suggest someone to step in to be ASF GSoD org admin
> And submit ASF application
>
> from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
>
>
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 00:00 Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> The Cassandra community is also interested in participating in GSoD 2022.
>> But the new rules seem to require ASF-level involvement.
>>
>>>> On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:18 AM, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> BTW. We have time to 25th of March for the submission.
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:14 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> In Apache Airflow we have some people who have some ideas around
>> improving
>>>> our documentation and we would like to participate in Google Season of
>> Docs.
>>>>
>>>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
>>>>
>>>> We already participated in 2019 and back then it was agreed that the
>>>> projects should submit their proposals individually (not as Apache
>> Software
>>>> Foundation but as Apache Airflow) because that increased the chances of
>>>> getting more projects (there were limits of projects per organisation).
>>>>
>>>> However looking at the FAQ [1], there are significant changes this year
>>>> and they require much more of an "organization" to manage - i.e. Google
>>>> will give grants to the organisations, and the organizations are
>> supposed
>>>> to pay the writers. So it is much more "formal" and I am not sure how it
>>>> plays with the ASF rules.
>>>>
>>>> Is there anyone who could help with that?
>>>>
>>>> Here is the relevant part from the FAQ:
>>>>
>>>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and 2020?
>>>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from prior
>>>> years, including:
>>>>
>>>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched with
>>>> organizations
>>>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their application,
>>>> including a budget and proposed metrics
>>>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay technical
>>>> writers
>>>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq
>>>>
>>>> J.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
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Re: Question: Howto Google Season of Docs submissions
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
I would suggest someone to step in to be ASF GSoD org admin
And submit ASF application
from mobile (sorry for typos ;)
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 00:00 Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
> The Cassandra community is also interested in participating in GSoD 2022.
> But the new rules seem to require ASF-level involvement.
>
> > On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:18 AM, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> >
> > BTW. We have time to 25th of March for the submission.
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:14 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> In Apache Airflow we have some people who have some ideas around
> improving
> >> our documentation and we would like to participate in Google Season of
> Docs.
> >>
> >> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
> >>
> >> We already participated in 2019 and back then it was agreed that the
> >> projects should submit their proposals individually (not as Apache
> Software
> >> Foundation but as Apache Airflow) because that increased the chances of
> >> getting more projects (there were limits of projects per organisation).
> >>
> >> However looking at the FAQ [1], there are significant changes this year
> >> and they require much more of an "organization" to manage - i.e. Google
> >> will give grants to the organisations, and the organizations are
> supposed
> >> to pay the writers. So it is much more "formal" and I am not sure how it
> >> plays with the ASF rules.
> >>
> >> Is there anyone who could help with that?
> >>
> >> Here is the relevant part from the FAQ:
> >>
> >> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and 2020?
> >> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from prior
> >> years, including:
> >>
> >> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched with
> >> organizations
> >> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their application,
> >> including a budget and proposed metrics
> >> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay technical
> >> writers
> >> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
> >>
> >> [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq
> >>
> >> J.
> >>
> >>
>
>
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Re: Question: Howto Google Season of Docs submissions
Posted by Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org>.
The Cassandra community is also interested in participating in GSoD 2022. But the new rules seem to require ASF-level involvement.
> On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:18 AM, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>
> BTW. We have time to 25th of March for the submission.
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:14 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> In Apache Airflow we have some people who have some ideas around improving
>> our documentation and we would like to participate in Google Season of Docs.
>>
>> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
>>
>> We already participated in 2019 and back then it was agreed that the
>> projects should submit their proposals individually (not as Apache Software
>> Foundation but as Apache Airflow) because that increased the chances of
>> getting more projects (there were limits of projects per organisation).
>>
>> However looking at the FAQ [1], there are significant changes this year
>> and they require much more of an "organization" to manage - i.e. Google
>> will give grants to the organisations, and the organizations are supposed
>> to pay the writers. So it is much more "formal" and I am not sure how it
>> plays with the ASF rules.
>>
>> Is there anyone who could help with that?
>>
>> Here is the relevant part from the FAQ:
>>
>> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and 2020?
>> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from prior
>> years, including:
>>
>> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched with
>> organizations
>> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their application,
>> including a budget and proposed metrics
>> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay technical
>> writers
>> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
>>
>> [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq
>>
>> J.
>>
>>
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Re: Question: Howto Google Season of Docs submissions
Posted by Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>.
BTW. We have time to 25th of March for the submission.
On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 12:14 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In Apache Airflow we have some people who have some ideas around improving
> our documentation and we would like to participate in Google Season of Docs.
>
> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
>
> We already participated in 2019 and back then it was agreed that the
> projects should submit their proposals individually (not as Apache Software
> Foundation but as Apache Airflow) because that increased the chances of
> getting more projects (there were limits of projects per organisation).
>
> However looking at the FAQ [1], there are significant changes this year
> and they require much more of an "organization" to manage - i.e. Google
> will give grants to the organisations, and the organizations are supposed
> to pay the writers. So it is much more "formal" and I am not sure how it
> plays with the ASF rules.
>
> Is there anyone who could help with that?
>
> Here is the relevant part from the FAQ:
>
> How does the current program differ from Season of Docs 2019 and 2020?
> The current Season of Docs program has significant changes from prior
> years, including:
>
> * Technical writers no longer apply through Google to be matched with
> organizations
> * Organizations submit project proposals as part of their application,
> including a budget and proposed metrics
> * Accepted organizations receive grants, which they use to pay technical
> writers
> * Organizations submit final evaluations and case studies
>
> [1] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/faq
>
> J.
>
>