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Posted to dev@mina.apache.org by Greg Thomas <gr...@gmail.com> on 2019/02/01 17:27:23 UTC

Re: Next MINA release (2.0.20?)

Hi Emmanuel,

I appreciate you're all volunteers, so is there anything we can do to help
push this over the line?

Thanks,

Greg

On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 14:05, Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Greg,
>
> I just got a new computer last friday, and I’m unstacking all my backlog
> atm... I’ll check if I can cut a release next week.
>
> Le ven. 7 déc. 2018 à 11:18, Greg Thomas <gr...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there any progress on this? Is there anything we can do to help?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 22:50, Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > We probably can get a release with only this issue being fixed. I would
> > > suggest we test it on Java 11 (Java 10 is not going to be supported
> while
> > > 11 is LTS).
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 4:55 PM Greg Thomas <gr...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi there,
> > > >
> > > > Are there any plans for a new release of MINA anytime soon? I ask
> > because
> > > > we're blocked on Java 10+ support because of
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRMINA-1088 which, although
> > > fixed,
> > > > has yet to be included in a release.
> > > >
> > > > Is there anything we can do to help push a release through?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > > Cordialement,
> > > Emmanuel Lécharny
> > > www.iktek.com
> > >
> >
> --
> Regards,
> Cordialement,
> Emmanuel Lécharny
> www.iktek.com
>

Re: Next MINA release (2.0.20?)

Posted by Jonathan Valliere <jo...@apache.org>.
Emmanuel, any input?


On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 9:55 AM Jonathan Valliere <jo...@emoten.com>
wrote:

> Releasing SNAPSHOTS automatically will allow customers to test those fixes
> for a reasonable period of time before becoming official.
>
> On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 7:44 AM Greg Thomas <gr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> > I am concerned about the precedent of making new releases for singular
>> fixes because often there isn't enough compliance testing involved before
>> becoming an official release.
>>
>> In principle, yes. In practice, I worry that the 'current' release of MINA
>> has too many bugs, so too may people are using older versions, making
>> 2.0.19 essentially redundant.
>>
>> e.g.
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRMINA-1087
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRMINA-1088
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRMINA-1098
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 17:45, Jonathan Valliere <jo...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I am concerned about the precedent of making new releases for singular
>> > fixes because often there isn't enough compliance testing involved
>> before
>> > becoming an official release.  We had that problem not too long ago
>> where
>> > the SSL code changes broke major compatibility with existing projects.
>> > Emmanuel, how do you feel about releasing SNAPSHOT versions?  Could the
>> CI
>> > be configured to do this?  This way, we can push to maven and allow
>> > customers to test the SNAPSHOT versions before moving to releases.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 12:27 PM Greg Thomas <gr...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Emmanuel,
>> > >
>> > > I appreciate you're all volunteers, so is there anything we can do to
>> > help
>> > > push this over the line?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > >
>> > > Greg
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 14:05, Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@apache.org>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Greg,
>> > > >
>> > > > I just got a new computer last friday, and I’m unstacking all my
>> > backlog
>> > > > atm... I’ll check if I can cut a release next week.
>> > > >
>> > > > Le ven. 7 déc. 2018 à 11:18, Greg Thomas <gr...@gmail.com>
>> a
>> > > > écrit :
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hi,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Is there any progress on this? Is there anything we can do to
>> help?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Greg
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 22:50, Emmanuel Lecharny <
>> > elecharny@apache.org>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > We probably can get a release with only this issue being fixed.
>> I
>> > > would
>> > > > > > suggest we test it on Java 11 (Java 10 is not going to be
>> supported
>> > > > while
>> > > > > > 11 is LTS).
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 4:55 PM Greg Thomas <
>> > greg.d.thomas@gmail.com
>> > > >
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Hi there,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Are there any plans for a new release of MINA anytime soon? I
>> ask
>> > > > > because
>> > > > > > > we're blocked on Java 10+ support because of
>> > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRMINA-1088 which,
>> > although
>> > > > > > fixed,
>> > > > > > > has yet to be included in a release.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Is there anything we can do to help push a release through?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Greg
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > Regards,
>> > > > > > Cordialement,
>> > > > > > Emmanuel Lécharny
>> > > > > > www.iktek.com
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > > Cordialement,
>> > > > Emmanuel Lécharny
>> > > > www.iktek.com
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
> --

Re: Next MINA release (2.0.20?)

Posted by Jonathan Valliere <jo...@emoten.com>.
Releasing SNAPSHOTS automatically will allow customers to test those fixes
for a reasonable period of time before becoming official.

On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 7:44 AM Greg Thomas <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I am concerned about the precedent of making new releases for singular
> fixes because often there isn't enough compliance testing involved before
> becoming an official release.
>
> In principle, yes. In practice, I worry that the 'current' release of MINA
> has too many bugs, so too may people are using older versions, making
> 2.0.19 essentially redundant.
>
> e.g.
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRMINA-1087
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRMINA-1088
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRMINA-1098
>
> Greg
>
> On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 17:45, Jonathan Valliere <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I am concerned about the precedent of making new releases for singular
> > fixes because often there isn't enough compliance testing involved before
> > becoming an official release.  We had that problem not too long ago where
> > the SSL code changes broke major compatibility with existing projects.
> > Emmanuel, how do you feel about releasing SNAPSHOT versions?  Could the
> CI
> > be configured to do this?  This way, we can push to maven and allow
> > customers to test the SNAPSHOT versions before moving to releases.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 12:27 PM Greg Thomas <gr...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Emmanuel,
> > >
> > > I appreciate you're all volunteers, so is there anything we can do to
> > help
> > > push this over the line?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 14:05, Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Greg,
> > > >
> > > > I just got a new computer last friday, and I’m unstacking all my
> > backlog
> > > > atm... I’ll check if I can cut a release next week.
> > > >
> > > > Le ven. 7 déc. 2018 à 11:18, Greg Thomas <gr...@gmail.com> a
> > > > écrit :
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there any progress on this? Is there anything we can do to help?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Greg
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 22:50, Emmanuel Lecharny <
> > elecharny@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > We probably can get a release with only this issue being fixed. I
> > > would
> > > > > > suggest we test it on Java 11 (Java 10 is not going to be
> supported
> > > > while
> > > > > > 11 is LTS).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 4:55 PM Greg Thomas <
> > greg.d.thomas@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi there,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Are there any plans for a new release of MINA anytime soon? I
> ask
> > > > > because
> > > > > > > we're blocked on Java 10+ support because of
> > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRMINA-1088 which,
> > although
> > > > > > fixed,
> > > > > > > has yet to be included in a release.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is there anything we can do to help push a release through?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Greg
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Cordialement,
> > > > > > Emmanuel Lécharny
> > > > > > www.iktek.com
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Cordialement,
> > > > Emmanuel Lécharny
> > > > www.iktek.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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Re: Next MINA release (2.0.20?)

Posted by Greg Thomas <gr...@gmail.com>.
> I am concerned about the precedent of making new releases for singular
fixes because often there isn't enough compliance testing involved before
becoming an official release.

In principle, yes. In practice, I worry that the 'current' release of MINA
has too many bugs, so too may people are using older versions, making
2.0.19 essentially redundant.

e.g.

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRMINA-1087
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRMINA-1088
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRMINA-1098

Greg

On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 17:45, Jonathan Valliere <jo...@apache.org> wrote:

> I am concerned about the precedent of making new releases for singular
> fixes because often there isn't enough compliance testing involved before
> becoming an official release.  We had that problem not too long ago where
> the SSL code changes broke major compatibility with existing projects.
> Emmanuel, how do you feel about releasing SNAPSHOT versions?  Could the CI
> be configured to do this?  This way, we can push to maven and allow
> customers to test the SNAPSHOT versions before moving to releases.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 12:27 PM Greg Thomas <gr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Emmanuel,
> >
> > I appreciate you're all volunteers, so is there anything we can do to
> help
> > push this over the line?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 14:05, Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Greg,
> > >
> > > I just got a new computer last friday, and I’m unstacking all my
> backlog
> > > atm... I’ll check if I can cut a release next week.
> > >
> > > Le ven. 7 déc. 2018 à 11:18, Greg Thomas <gr...@gmail.com> a
> > > écrit :
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Is there any progress on this? Is there anything we can do to help?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 22:50, Emmanuel Lecharny <
> elecharny@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > We probably can get a release with only this issue being fixed. I
> > would
> > > > > suggest we test it on Java 11 (Java 10 is not going to be supported
> > > while
> > > > > 11 is LTS).
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 4:55 PM Greg Thomas <
> greg.d.thomas@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi there,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are there any plans for a new release of MINA anytime soon? I ask
> > > > because
> > > > > > we're blocked on Java 10+ support because of
> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRMINA-1088 which,
> although
> > > > > fixed,
> > > > > > has yet to be included in a release.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there anything we can do to help push a release through?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Greg
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Cordialement,
> > > > > Emmanuel Lécharny
> > > > > www.iktek.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > > Cordialement,
> > > Emmanuel Lécharny
> > > www.iktek.com
> > >
> >
>

Re: Next MINA release (2.0.20?)

Posted by Jonathan Valliere <jo...@apache.org>.
I am concerned about the precedent of making new releases for singular
fixes because often there isn't enough compliance testing involved before
becoming an official release.  We had that problem not too long ago where
the SSL code changes broke major compatibility with existing projects.
Emmanuel, how do you feel about releasing SNAPSHOT versions?  Could the CI
be configured to do this?  This way, we can push to maven and allow
customers to test the SNAPSHOT versions before moving to releases.


On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 12:27 PM Greg Thomas <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Emmanuel,
>
> I appreciate you're all volunteers, so is there anything we can do to help
> push this over the line?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>
> On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 at 14:05, Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Greg,
> >
> > I just got a new computer last friday, and I’m unstacking all my backlog
> > atm... I’ll check if I can cut a release next week.
> >
> > Le ven. 7 déc. 2018 à 11:18, Greg Thomas <gr...@gmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Is there any progress on this? Is there anything we can do to help?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 22:50, Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > We probably can get a release with only this issue being fixed. I
> would
> > > > suggest we test it on Java 11 (Java 10 is not going to be supported
> > while
> > > > 11 is LTS).
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 4:55 PM Greg Thomas <greg.d.thomas@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi there,
> > > > >
> > > > > Are there any plans for a new release of MINA anytime soon? I ask
> > > because
> > > > > we're blocked on Java 10+ support because of
> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRMINA-1088 which, although
> > > > fixed,
> > > > > has yet to be included in a release.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there anything we can do to help push a release through?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Greg
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Cordialement,
> > > > Emmanuel Lécharny
> > > > www.iktek.com
> > > >
> > >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Cordialement,
> > Emmanuel Lécharny
> > www.iktek.com
> >
>