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svn commit: r791638 - /openjpa/board/2009-07.txt

Author: clr
Date: Mon Jul  6 22:37:08 2009
New Revision: 791638

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=791638&view=rev
Log:
Please review this report before Friday July 10

Added:
    openjpa/board/2009-07.txt   (with props)

Added: openjpa/board/2009-07.txt
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openjpa/board/2009-07.txt?rev=791638&view=auto
==============================================================================
--- openjpa/board/2009-07.txt (added)
+++ openjpa/board/2009-07.txt Mon Jul  6 22:37:08 2009
@@ -0,0 +1,48 @@
+2009-July Status Report for the Apache OpenJPA Project
+
+Highlights
+
+OpenJPA continues to implement the latest JPA 2.0 JSR-317, which is in
+Proposed Final Draft status. The latest draft was issued 13-March-2009 and
+contains several very large changes that will keep the project busy for
+another few months. Additionally, the spec has continued to evolve after
+the publication of the PFD. 
+
+OpenJPA still has a Field Of Use problem with the draft JPA 2.0 specification
+license.  The license contains language restricting distribution of the early
+implementation of JSR-317. The way we read this is that OpenJPA will be
+unable to offer an early release of OpenJPA that supports JPA 2.0 until
+and unless 2.(iii) is amended to remove the clause "is made available for
+testing and evaluation purposes only". 
+
+This issue was raised with Geir Magnusson, Apache VP, JCP on February 3, 2009,
+and is still unresolved.
+
+Community
+
+Donald Woods was offered, and he accepted, committer status on the project.
+
+Mailing lists continue to be very active, with an average of close to 500
+messages per month on the dev alias and approximately 250 messages per
+month on the users alias.
+
+OpenJPA continues to experience a modest increase in email subscriptions and
+activity. There are over 150 subscribers to dev and over 225 to users.
+
+A vote is underway for a logo for OpenJPA, with 15 entries. Information here: 
+http://cwiki.apache.org/openjpa/logo-contest.html
+
+A vote to change the maximum line length for source files resulted in
+allowing 120 character lines. We do bike sheds too.
+
+The community is working well together. Questions from the community
+are answered promptly, often resulting in a JIRA being filed. 
+
+Governance
+
+The PMC continues to track contributors with an eye toward making them
+committers, and committers PMC members. 
+
+Releases
+
+none this quarter

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Re: svn commit: r791638 - /openjpa/board/2009-07.txt

Posted by Michael Dick <mi...@gmail.com>.
Looks good Craig, thanks for putting these together.

-mike

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:37 PM, <cl...@apache.org> wrote:

> Author: clr
> Date: Mon Jul  6 22:37:08 2009
> New Revision: 791638
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=791638&view=rev
> Log:
> Please review this report before Friday July 10
>
> Added:
>    openjpa/board/2009-07.txt   (with props)
>
> Added: openjpa/board/2009-07.txt
> URL:
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openjpa/board/2009-07.txt?rev=791638&view=auto
>
> ==============================================================================
> --- openjpa/board/2009-07.txt (added)
> +++ openjpa/board/2009-07.txt Mon Jul  6 22:37:08 2009
> @@ -0,0 +1,48 @@
> +2009-July Status Report for the Apache OpenJPA Project
> +
> +Highlights
> +
> +OpenJPA continues to implement the latest JPA 2.0 JSR-317, which is in
> +Proposed Final Draft status. The latest draft was issued 13-March-2009 and
> +contains several very large changes that will keep the project busy for
> +another few months. Additionally, the spec has continued to evolve after
> +the publication of the PFD.
> +
> +OpenJPA still has a Field Of Use problem with the draft JPA 2.0
> specification
> +license.  The license contains language restricting distribution of the
> early
> +implementation of JSR-317. The way we read this is that OpenJPA will be
> +unable to offer an early release of OpenJPA that supports JPA 2.0 until
> +and unless 2.(iii) is amended to remove the clause "is made available for
> +testing and evaluation purposes only".
> +
> +This issue was raised with Geir Magnusson, Apache VP, JCP on February 3,
> 2009,
> +and is still unresolved.
> +
> +Community
> +
> +Donald Woods was offered, and he accepted, committer status on the
> project.
> +
> +Mailing lists continue to be very active, with an average of close to 500
> +messages per month on the dev alias and approximately 250 messages per
> +month on the users alias.
> +
> +OpenJPA continues to experience a modest increase in email subscriptions
> and
> +activity. There are over 150 subscribers to dev and over 225 to users.
> +
> +A vote is underway for a logo for OpenJPA, with 15 entries. Information
> here:
> +http://cwiki.apache.org/openjpa/logo-contest.html
> +
> +A vote to change the maximum line length for source files resulted in
> +allowing 120 character lines. We do bike sheds too.
> +
> +The community is working well together. Questions from the community
> +are answered promptly, often resulting in a JIRA being filed.
> +
> +Governance
> +
> +The PMC continues to track contributors with an eye toward making them
> +committers, and committers PMC members.
> +
> +Releases
> +
> +none this quarter
>
> Propchange: openjpa/board/2009-07.txt
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    svn:eol-style = LF
>
>
>

Re: svn commit: r791638 - /openjpa/board/2009-07.txt

Posted by Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com>.
Thanks, Craig, for the explanations.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Craig L Russell <Cr...@sun.com>wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
>
> On Jul 8, 2009, at 7:56 AM, Kevin Sutter wrote:
>
>  Craig,
>> Is there any common location that compares stats of the Apache projects?
>>
>
> Not that I know of.
>
>  For example, we always report the forum postings and user registrations.
>> How do we know if these are modest changes vs extremely active vs dormant?
>>
>
> We don't. What I put into the report is what I think is important for the
> board to know about OpenJPA. I don't track others' reports with the same
> degree of interest.
>
>  Just curious if there are common stats gathered and communicated across
>> projects.  Or, do we have to dive through the individual reports and come
>> to
>> our own conclusions?
>>
>
> Dive away.
>
> In Apache, each project is run by the PMC with some absolute rules and some
> guidelines; and the rest is up to the project. If too little information is
> provided by the project to the board, the board asks the project to improve.
> But the board really tries hard to stay out of the way of projects. It would
> be considered micromanaging the project for the board to require statistics,
> but not micromanaging to ask for reporting new committers and PMC members.
>
> Regards,
>
> Craig
>
>
>   Thanks.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:37 PM, <cl...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>  Author: clr
>>> Date: Mon Jul  6 22:37:08 2009
>>> New Revision: 791638
>>>
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=791638&view=rev
>>> Log:
>>> Please review this report before Friday July 10
>>>
>>> Added:
>>>  openjpa/board/2009-07.txt   (with props)
>>>
>>> Added: openjpa/board/2009-07.txt
>>> URL:
>>>
>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openjpa/board/2009-07.txt?rev=791638&view=auto
>>>
>>>
>>> ==============================================================================
>>> --- openjpa/board/2009-07.txt (added)
>>> +++ openjpa/board/2009-07.txt Mon Jul  6 22:37:08 2009
>>> @@ -0,0 +1,48 @@
>>> +2009-July Status Report for the Apache OpenJPA Project
>>> +
>>> +Highlights
>>> +
>>> +OpenJPA continues to implement the latest JPA 2.0 JSR-317, which is in
>>> +Proposed Final Draft status. The latest draft was issued 13-March-2009
>>> and
>>> +contains several very large changes that will keep the project busy for
>>> +another few months. Additionally, the spec has continued to evolve after
>>> +the publication of the PFD.
>>> +
>>> +OpenJPA still has a Field Of Use problem with the draft JPA 2.0
>>> specification
>>> +license.  The license contains language restricting distribution of the
>>> early
>>> +implementation of JSR-317. The way we read this is that OpenJPA will be
>>> +unable to offer an early release of OpenJPA that supports JPA 2.0 until
>>> +and unless 2.(iii) is amended to remove the clause "is made available
>>> for
>>> +testing and evaluation purposes only".
>>> +
>>> +This issue was raised with Geir Magnusson, Apache VP, JCP on February 3,
>>> 2009,
>>> +and is still unresolved.
>>> +
>>> +Community
>>> +
>>> +Donald Woods was offered, and he accepted, committer status on the
>>> project.
>>> +
>>> +Mailing lists continue to be very active, with an average of close to
>>> 500
>>> +messages per month on the dev alias and approximately 250 messages per
>>> +month on the users alias.
>>> +
>>> +OpenJPA continues to experience a modest increase in email subscriptions
>>> and
>>> +activity. There are over 150 subscribers to dev and over 225 to users.
>>> +
>>> +A vote is underway for a logo for OpenJPA, with 15 entries. Information
>>> here:
>>> +http://cwiki.apache.org/openjpa/logo-contest.html
>>> +
>>> +A vote to change the maximum line length for source files resulted in
>>> +allowing 120 character lines. We do bike sheds too.
>>> +
>>> +The community is working well together. Questions from the community
>>> +are answered promptly, often resulting in a JIRA being filed.
>>> +
>>> +Governance
>>> +
>>> +The PMC continues to track contributors with an eye toward making them
>>> +committers, and committers PMC members.
>>> +
>>> +Releases
>>> +
>>> +none this quarter
>>>
>>> Propchange: openjpa/board/2009-07.txt
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>  svn:eol-style = LF
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> Craig L Russell
> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>
>

Re: svn commit: r791638 - /openjpa/board/2009-07.txt

Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
Hi Kevin,

On Jul 8, 2009, at 7:56 AM, Kevin Sutter wrote:

> Craig,
> Is there any common location that compares stats of the Apache  
> projects?

Not that I know of.

> For example, we always report the forum postings and user  
> registrations.
> How do we know if these are modest changes vs extremely active vs  
> dormant?

We don't. What I put into the report is what I think is important for  
the board to know about OpenJPA. I don't track others' reports with  
the same degree of interest.

> Just curious if there are common stats gathered and communicated  
> across
> projects.  Or, do we have to dive through the individual reports and  
> come to
> our own conclusions?

Dive away.

In Apache, each project is run by the PMC with some absolute rules and  
some guidelines; and the rest is up to the project. If too little  
information is provided by the project to the board, the board asks  
the project to improve. But the board really tries hard to stay out of  
the way of projects. It would be considered micromanaging the project  
for the board to require statistics, but not micromanaging to ask for  
reporting new committers and PMC members.

Regards,

Craig

>  Thanks.
>
> Kevin
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:37 PM, <cl...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Author: clr
>> Date: Mon Jul  6 22:37:08 2009
>> New Revision: 791638
>>
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=791638&view=rev
>> Log:
>> Please review this report before Friday July 10
>>
>> Added:
>>   openjpa/board/2009-07.txt   (with props)
>>
>> Added: openjpa/board/2009-07.txt
>> URL:
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openjpa/board/2009-07.txt?rev=791638&view=auto
>>
>> = 
>> = 
>> = 
>> = 
>> = 
>> = 
>> = 
>> = 
>> = 
>> =====================================================================
>> --- openjpa/board/2009-07.txt (added)
>> +++ openjpa/board/2009-07.txt Mon Jul  6 22:37:08 2009
>> @@ -0,0 +1,48 @@
>> +2009-July Status Report for the Apache OpenJPA Project
>> +
>> +Highlights
>> +
>> +OpenJPA continues to implement the latest JPA 2.0 JSR-317, which  
>> is in
>> +Proposed Final Draft status. The latest draft was issued 13- 
>> March-2009 and
>> +contains several very large changes that will keep the project  
>> busy for
>> +another few months. Additionally, the spec has continued to evolve  
>> after
>> +the publication of the PFD.
>> +
>> +OpenJPA still has a Field Of Use problem with the draft JPA 2.0
>> specification
>> +license.  The license contains language restricting distribution  
>> of the
>> early
>> +implementation of JSR-317. The way we read this is that OpenJPA  
>> will be
>> +unable to offer an early release of OpenJPA that supports JPA 2.0  
>> until
>> +and unless 2.(iii) is amended to remove the clause "is made  
>> available for
>> +testing and evaluation purposes only".
>> +
>> +This issue was raised with Geir Magnusson, Apache VP, JCP on  
>> February 3,
>> 2009,
>> +and is still unresolved.
>> +
>> +Community
>> +
>> +Donald Woods was offered, and he accepted, committer status on the
>> project.
>> +
>> +Mailing lists continue to be very active, with an average of close  
>> to 500
>> +messages per month on the dev alias and approximately 250 messages  
>> per
>> +month on the users alias.
>> +
>> +OpenJPA continues to experience a modest increase in email  
>> subscriptions
>> and
>> +activity. There are over 150 subscribers to dev and over 225 to  
>> users.
>> +
>> +A vote is underway for a logo for OpenJPA, with 15 entries.  
>> Information
>> here:
>> +http://cwiki.apache.org/openjpa/logo-contest.html
>> +
>> +A vote to change the maximum line length for source files resulted  
>> in
>> +allowing 120 character lines. We do bike sheds too.
>> +
>> +The community is working well together. Questions from the community
>> +are answered promptly, often resulting in a JIRA being filed.
>> +
>> +Governance
>> +
>> +The PMC continues to track contributors with an eye toward making  
>> them
>> +committers, and committers PMC members.
>> +
>> +Releases
>> +
>> +none this quarter
>>
>> Propchange: openjpa/board/2009-07.txt
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>   svn:eol-style = LF
>>
>>
>>

Craig L Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!


Re: svn commit: r791638 - /openjpa/board/2009-07.txt

Posted by Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com>.
Craig,
Is there any common location that compares stats of the Apache projects?
For example, we always report the forum postings and user registrations.
How do we know if these are modest changes vs extremely active vs dormant?
Just curious if there are common stats gathered and communicated across
projects.  Or, do we have to dive through the individual reports and come to
our own conclusions?  Thanks.

Kevin

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:37 PM, <cl...@apache.org> wrote:

> Author: clr
> Date: Mon Jul  6 22:37:08 2009
> New Revision: 791638
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=791638&view=rev
> Log:
> Please review this report before Friday July 10
>
> Added:
>    openjpa/board/2009-07.txt   (with props)
>
> Added: openjpa/board/2009-07.txt
> URL:
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openjpa/board/2009-07.txt?rev=791638&view=auto
>
> ==============================================================================
> --- openjpa/board/2009-07.txt (added)
> +++ openjpa/board/2009-07.txt Mon Jul  6 22:37:08 2009
> @@ -0,0 +1,48 @@
> +2009-July Status Report for the Apache OpenJPA Project
> +
> +Highlights
> +
> +OpenJPA continues to implement the latest JPA 2.0 JSR-317, which is in
> +Proposed Final Draft status. The latest draft was issued 13-March-2009 and
> +contains several very large changes that will keep the project busy for
> +another few months. Additionally, the spec has continued to evolve after
> +the publication of the PFD.
> +
> +OpenJPA still has a Field Of Use problem with the draft JPA 2.0
> specification
> +license.  The license contains language restricting distribution of the
> early
> +implementation of JSR-317. The way we read this is that OpenJPA will be
> +unable to offer an early release of OpenJPA that supports JPA 2.0 until
> +and unless 2.(iii) is amended to remove the clause "is made available for
> +testing and evaluation purposes only".
> +
> +This issue was raised with Geir Magnusson, Apache VP, JCP on February 3,
> 2009,
> +and is still unresolved.
> +
> +Community
> +
> +Donald Woods was offered, and he accepted, committer status on the
> project.
> +
> +Mailing lists continue to be very active, with an average of close to 500
> +messages per month on the dev alias and approximately 250 messages per
> +month on the users alias.
> +
> +OpenJPA continues to experience a modest increase in email subscriptions
> and
> +activity. There are over 150 subscribers to dev and over 225 to users.
> +
> +A vote is underway for a logo for OpenJPA, with 15 entries. Information
> here:
> +http://cwiki.apache.org/openjpa/logo-contest.html
> +
> +A vote to change the maximum line length for source files resulted in
> +allowing 120 character lines. We do bike sheds too.
> +
> +The community is working well together. Questions from the community
> +are answered promptly, often resulting in a JIRA being filed.
> +
> +Governance
> +
> +The PMC continues to track contributors with an eye toward making them
> +committers, and committers PMC members.
> +
> +Releases
> +
> +none this quarter
>
> Propchange: openjpa/board/2009-07.txt
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    svn:eol-style = LF
>
>
>