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RE: BlueMarlin project appears to be inactive

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From: Reza Adibnia <ra...@futurewei.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 8:36 AM
To: sebbaz@gmail.com
Cc: Xun Hu <xh...@futurewei.com>; Wenjing Chu <wc...@futurewei.com>; dev@bluemarlin.apache.org
Subject: BlueMarlin project appears to be inactive

Hi Sebb,

This regarding activities on Bluemarlin project.

We are maintaining 2 opensource repositories for Bluemarlin, one is in Futurewei account and the other in Apache accounts.

apache/incubator-bluemarlin: Apache BlueMarlin (github.com)<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fapache%2Fincubator-bluemarlin&data=04%7C01%7Cxhu1%40futurewei.com%7C43f8f42db7dc426257ee08d9bf1fc874%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C637750965523735278%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=iw4o3RFIoYkjgvTKeM3rU2NcLGiJRsMa%2FxxH%2B5JZOes%3D&reserved=0>

Futurewei-io/blue-marlin: Blue Marlin is a critical web infrastructure for advertising based monetization. It is a cloud platform that adds intelligence to a plain Ad System. (github.com)<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FFuturewei-io%2Fblue-marlin&data=04%7C01%7Cxhu1%40futurewei.com%7C43f8f42db7dc426257ee08d9bf1fc874%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C637750965523735278%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=TomZpOkyRxsErmNLphYgDxXR2Vefnc4c8bj9Y%2Filz0A%3D&reserved=0>

We maintain both repositories in parallel and they both have the same amount of code commits. Because we have not found a way to migrate all the issues from Futurewei account to Apache account, we could not focus on one repository. It seems that having this separation caused some issues in term of showing the project activities. To follow your comments, we are focusing to use Apache account from now on (ignoring existing issue lists). We will update its wiki and ask our contributors to add their issues to the new repository from now on.

We are going to configure Apache mailing list so that participant receive notification emails on commits and pull-requests.

We don't have a website yet. We will be working on it.

The reasons that we didn't pay attention to these items you mentioned,  was because we thought committing code and submitting quarterly report are sufficient for the incubation process.

Best,

Reza.


Re: BlueMarlin project appears to be inactive

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
HI,

> We are maintaining 2 opensource repositories for Bluemarlin, one is in Futurewei account and the other in Apache accounts.

This needs to stop, you should only be working on the code at the Apache repo and have no others. Please put in place plans to move development across to the ASF entirely and delete that other repo.

This causes all sorts of issues around IP. For instance, have the contributors to the other repos signed ASF ICLAs?

Kind Regards,
Justin
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Re: BlueMarlin project appears to be inactive

Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>.
When we first discussed this Futurewei project a year before incubation I thought I made it clear that growing your community is an important part of the Incubation process.

You must do that on the dev@ mailing list. When it’s time to discuss contributors who should become committers or PPMC members you must discuss them on private@bluemarlin - a year and half later NO ONE (despite earlier prompts) has subscribed to private@ except for Sheng Wu.

If you are serious about Incubation you need to discuss these issues proactively with your mentors on your apache mailing lists.

> On Dec 14, 2021, at 8:41 AM, Xun Hu <xh...@futurewei.com> wrote:
> 
> + general@incubator
> 
> 
> From: Reza Adibnia <ra...@futurewei.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 8:36 AM
> To: sebbaz@gmail.com
> Cc: Xun Hu <xh...@futurewei.com>; Wenjing Chu <wc...@futurewei.com>; dev@bluemarlin.apache.org
> Subject: BlueMarlin project appears to be inactive
> 
> Hi Sebb,
> 
> This regarding activities on Bluemarlin project.
> 
> We are maintaining 2 opensource repositories for Bluemarlin, one is in Futurewei account and the other in Apache accounts.
> 
> apache/incubator-bluemarlin: Apache BlueMarlin (github.com)<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fapache%2Fincubator-bluemarlin&data=04%7C01%7Cxhu1%40futurewei.com%7C43f8f42db7dc426257ee08d9bf1fc874%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C637750965523735278%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=iw4o3RFIoYkjgvTKeM3rU2NcLGiJRsMa%2FxxH%2B5JZOes%3D&reserved=0>
> 
> Futurewei-io/blue-marlin: Blue Marlin is a critical web infrastructure for advertising based monetization. It is a cloud platform that adds intelligence to a plain Ad System. (github.com)<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FFuturewei-io%2Fblue-marlin&data=04%7C01%7Cxhu1%40futurewei.com%7C43f8f42db7dc426257ee08d9bf1fc874%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C637750965523735278%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=TomZpOkyRxsErmNLphYgDxXR2Vefnc4c8bj9Y%2Filz0A%3D&reserved=0>
> 
> We maintain both repositories in parallel and they both have the same amount of code commits. Because we have not found a way to migrate all the issues from Futurewei account to Apache account, we could not focus on one repository. It seems that having this separation caused some issues in term of showing the project activities. To follow your comments, we are focusing to use Apache account from now on (ignoring existing issue lists). We will update its wiki and ask our contributors to add their issues to the new repository from now on.
> 
> We are going to configure Apache mailing list so that participant receive notification emails on commits and pull-requests.
> 
> We don't have a website yet. We will be working on it.
> 
> The reasons that we didn't pay attention to these items you mentioned,  was because we thought committing code and submitting quarterly report are sufficient for the incubation process.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Reza.
> 


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Re: BlueMarlin project appears to be inactive

Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>.
When we first discussed this Futurewei project a year before incubation I thought I made it clear that growing your community is an important part of the Incubation process.

You must do that on the dev@ mailing list. When it’s time to discuss contributors who should become committers or PPMC members you must discuss them on private@bluemarlin - a year and half later NO ONE (despite earlier prompts) has subscribed to private@ except for Sheng Wu.

If you are serious about Incubation you need to discuss these issues proactively with your mentors on your apache mailing lists.

> On Dec 14, 2021, at 8:41 AM, Xun Hu <xh...@futurewei.com> wrote:
> 
> + general@incubator
> 
> 
> From: Reza Adibnia <ra...@futurewei.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 8:36 AM
> To: sebbaz@gmail.com
> Cc: Xun Hu <xh...@futurewei.com>; Wenjing Chu <wc...@futurewei.com>; dev@bluemarlin.apache.org
> Subject: BlueMarlin project appears to be inactive
> 
> Hi Sebb,
> 
> This regarding activities on Bluemarlin project.
> 
> We are maintaining 2 opensource repositories for Bluemarlin, one is in Futurewei account and the other in Apache accounts.
> 
> apache/incubator-bluemarlin: Apache BlueMarlin (github.com)<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fapache%2Fincubator-bluemarlin&data=04%7C01%7Cxhu1%40futurewei.com%7C43f8f42db7dc426257ee08d9bf1fc874%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C637750965523735278%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=iw4o3RFIoYkjgvTKeM3rU2NcLGiJRsMa%2FxxH%2B5JZOes%3D&reserved=0>
> 
> Futurewei-io/blue-marlin: Blue Marlin is a critical web infrastructure for advertising based monetization. It is a cloud platform that adds intelligence to a plain Ad System. (github.com)<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FFuturewei-io%2Fblue-marlin&data=04%7C01%7Cxhu1%40futurewei.com%7C43f8f42db7dc426257ee08d9bf1fc874%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C637750965523735278%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=TomZpOkyRxsErmNLphYgDxXR2Vefnc4c8bj9Y%2Filz0A%3D&reserved=0>
> 
> We maintain both repositories in parallel and they both have the same amount of code commits. Because we have not found a way to migrate all the issues from Futurewei account to Apache account, we could not focus on one repository. It seems that having this separation caused some issues in term of showing the project activities. To follow your comments, we are focusing to use Apache account from now on (ignoring existing issue lists). We will update its wiki and ask our contributors to add their issues to the new repository from now on.
> 
> We are going to configure Apache mailing list so that participant receive notification emails on commits and pull-requests.
> 
> We don't have a website yet. We will be working on it.
> 
> The reasons that we didn't pay attention to these items you mentioned,  was because we thought committing code and submitting quarterly report are sufficient for the incubation process.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Reza.
>