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Posted to dev@cassandra.apache.org by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com> on 2011/01/28 20:07:07 UTC
[PMC VOTE] Approve use of Cassandra mark by mojo.codehaus.org
Since there does not seem to be any desire to accept CASSANDRA-1997
Can the PMC vote to approve the use of the Cassandra mark by the
mojo.codehaus.org project for the Cassandra Maven Plugin
+1 Approve
0 don't care
-1 Veto
72 hours
PMC votes only
-Stephen
Re: [PMC VOTE] Approve use of Cassandra mark by mojo.codehaus.org
Posted by Eric Evans <ee...@rackspace.com>.
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 19:25 +0000, ant elder wrote:
> -1. This isn't a veto yet but I've read CASSANDRA-1997 and
> CASSANDRA-1805 but still have no real understanding of why the
> contribution of this maven plugin is being rejected and told to go do
> it somewhere out of the ASF. Why isn't this wanted to be developed
> here?
It wasn't rejected (vetoed). I don't feel strongly enough to veto it
outright.
I'm not committing it because to me it seems to fall into the same
category of stuff we're in the process of removing as part of
CASSANDRA-1997, and because I believe CASSANDRA-1997 was opened to solve
a legitimate problem.
--
Eric Evans
eevans@rackspace.com
Re: [PMC VOTE] Approve use of Cassandra mark by mojo.codehaus.org
Posted by ant elder <an...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Stephen Connolly
<st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Since there does not seem to be any desire to accept CASSANDRA-1997
>
> Can the PMC vote to approve the use of the Cassandra mark by the
> mojo.codehaus.org project for the Cassandra Maven Plugin
>
> +1 Approve
> 0 don't care
> -1 Veto
>
> 72 hours
>
> PMC votes only
>
> -Stephen
>
-1. This isn't a veto yet but I've read CASSANDRA-1997 and
CASSANDRA-1805 but still have no real understanding of why the
contribution of this maven plugin is being rejected and told to go do
it somewhere out of the ASF. Why isn't this wanted to be developed
here?
...ant
Re: [PMC VOTE] Approve use of Cassandra mark by mojo.codehaus.org
Posted by Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>.
I'm a little confused. What specific usage of an Apache mark is being
requested here? Any specific permissions granted to use Apache marks to
refer to third party's goods, including "Cassandra", should include
trademarks@apache.org on any plans or decisions.
Hopefully PMC members are aware of the Apache Trademark Policy:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/
And of the PMC branding requirements:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html
----
It sounds like there are two issues here (pardon me if I'm missing
something since I'm not on dev@ or pmc@ here):
- A technical issue with some of Stephen's (or related) code that
involves a Cassandra-related plugin for Maven. I can't help on that
one, sorry. 8-)
- A potential request to use Apache's "Cassandra" trademark to refer to
software developed outside of the ASF. This is typically not something
that is allowed. As the primary mission of the ASF is to develop
software for the public good, in general third parties (which would
include things developed at codehaus) may not use Apache marks to refer
to their software products, unless they follow the "Powered By" style:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#poweredby
Note that trademarks are most important when referring to software
products (or services) - so uses of "Cassandra" or "Maven" or the like
in APIs, classnames, or in many cases module names is not typically an
issue. Trademarks are all about how relevant consumers (i.e. your
users) think of the software that you're providing.
Please let me know on trademarks@ (a privately archived list) if you
have any questions about branding policy.
- Shane Curcuru
VP, Brand Management, The Apache Software Foundation
Stephen Connolly wrote:
> adding shane.
>
> shane, am I being overly cautious or have we more fun here
>
> ps I am only on the maven pmc, so I cannot follow if you jump to
> private@cassandra.apache.org <ma...@cassandra.apache.org>
>
> - Stephen
>
> ---
> Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense
> words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on
> the screen
>
> On 28 Jan 2011 19:21, "Eric Evans" <eevans@rackspace.com
> <ma...@rackspace.com>> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 19:07 +0000, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> >> Since there does not seem to be any desire to accept CASSANDRA-1997
> >>
> >> Can the PMC vote to approve the use of the Cassandra mark by the
> >> mojo.codehaus.org <http://mojo.codehaus.org> project for the
> Cassandra Maven Plugin
> >
> > I don't understand why you'd need permission. Help me to understand why
> > this is necessary. If it is necessary, then I suspect there are other
> > cases ongoing where we need to defend our mark.
> >
> >> +1 Approve
> >> 0 don't care
> >> -1 Veto
> >
> > I'm not going to vote on something I don't understand.
> >
> > --
> > Eric Evans
> > eevans@rackspace.com <ma...@rackspace.com>
> >
Re: [PMC VOTE] Approve use of Cassandra mark by mojo.codehaus.org
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
adding shane.
shane, am I being overly cautious or have we more fun here
ps I am only on the maven pmc, so I cannot follow if you jump to
private@cassandra.apache.org
- Stephen
---
Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense
words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the
screen
On 28 Jan 2011 19:21, "Eric Evans" <ee...@rackspace.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 19:07 +0000, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>> Since there does not seem to be any desire to accept CASSANDRA-1997
>>
>> Can the PMC vote to approve the use of the Cassandra mark by the
>> mojo.codehaus.org project for the Cassandra Maven Plugin
>
> I don't understand why you'd need permission. Help me to understand why
> this is necessary. If it is necessary, then I suspect there are other
> cases ongoing where we need to defend our mark.
>
>> +1 Approve
>> 0 don't care
>> -1 Veto
>
> I'm not going to vote on something I don't understand.
>
> --
> Eric Evans
> eevans@rackspace.com
>
Re: [PMC VOTE] Approve use of Cassandra mark by mojo.codehaus.org
Posted by Eric Evans <ee...@rackspace.com>.
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 19:07 +0000, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> Since there does not seem to be any desire to accept CASSANDRA-1997
>
> Can the PMC vote to approve the use of the Cassandra mark by the
> mojo.codehaus.org project for the Cassandra Maven Plugin
I don't understand why you'd need permission. Help me to understand why
this is necessary. If it is necessary, then I suspect there are other
cases ongoing where we need to defend our mark.
> +1 Approve
> 0 don't care
> -1 Veto
I'm not going to vote on something I don't understand.
--
Eric Evans
eevans@rackspace.com
Re: [PMC VOTE] Approve use of Cassandra mark by mojo.codehaus.org
Posted by Brandon Williams <dr...@gmail.com>.
+1
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Stephen Connolly <
stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com> wrote:
> Since there does not seem to be any desire to accept CASSANDRA-1997
>
> Can the PMC vote to approve the use of the Cassandra mark by the
> mojo.codehaus.org project for the Cassandra Maven Plugin
>
> +1 Approve
> 0 don't care
> -1 Veto
>
> 72 hours
>
> PMC votes only
>
> -Stephen
>
Re: [PMC VOTE] Approve use of Cassandra mark by mojo.codehaus.org
Posted by Gary Dusbabek <gd...@gmail.com>.
+1
On Jan 28, 2011 1:07 PM, "Stephen Connolly" <st...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Since there does not seem to be any desire to accept CASSANDRA-1997
Can the PMC vote to approve the use of the Cassandra mark by the
mojo.codehaus.org project for the Cassandra Maven Plugin
+1 Approve
0 don't care
-1 Veto
72 hours
PMC votes only
-Stephen