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Posted to dev@cordova.apache.org by Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> on 2012/09/20 20:48:43 UTC
Time to own the camera?
Hey
We're getting a lot of people complaining about the camera crashing
and the lifecycle issues. Now, I've tried using the built in
WebView.restoreState methods, and all I have gotten is a crashing
application, so I'm thinking that it might be time that we owned the
camera again. I'm willing to do the work on this one, but I want to
know if people think this is a good idea, or whether we should just
shunt this to plugin developers again and hope they don't abandon it.
Any thoughts?
Joe
Re: Time to own the camera?
Posted by Simon MacDonald <si...@gmail.com>.
I wish we could blame the carriers on this one but we can't. It is a
architecture issue with the Android OS itself. A lot of these ideas
made more sense when phones didn't have 8MP or 12MP cameras.
Simon Mac Donald
http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> argh +1
>
> should be a f/oss license that lets anyone modify code 'cept carriers
>
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> We should probably add this to the Road Map, since it'll be a
>> substantial change.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Lorin Beer <lo...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>> We own the camera on other platforms, and the functionality it offers is pretty core to cordova usage. With the issues being reported, I think it makes sense to bring it back in.
>>>
>>> - Lorin Beer
>>> On 2012-09-20, at 11:52 AM, Simon MacDonald <si...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, I think it is time. I just responded to the guy who opened the
>>>> ticket on JIRA saying roughly the same thing. Also, I've been dealing
>>>> with some internal guys for the past 24 hours on camera problems so I
>>>> really think it would be less of a pain in the ass to bring the camera
>>>> internal to Cordova.
>>>>
>>>> I'm willing to take a first pass at it starting tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> Simon Mac Donald
>>>> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hey
>>>>>
>>>>> We're getting a lot of people complaining about the camera crashing
>>>>> and the lifecycle issues. Now, I've tried using the built in
>>>>> WebView.restoreState methods, and all I have gotten is a crashing
>>>>> application, so I'm thinking that it might be time that we owned the
>>>>> camera again. I'm willing to do the work on this one, but I want to
>>>>> know if people think this is a good idea, or whether we should just
>>>>> shunt this to plugin developers again and hope they don't abandon it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>
Re: Time to own the camera?
Posted by Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>.
argh +1
should be a f/oss license that lets anyone modify code 'cept carriers
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We should probably add this to the Road Map, since it'll be a
> substantial change.
>
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Lorin Beer <lo...@adobe.com> wrote:
>> We own the camera on other platforms, and the functionality it offers is pretty core to cordova usage. With the issues being reported, I think it makes sense to bring it back in.
>>
>> - Lorin Beer
>> On 2012-09-20, at 11:52 AM, Simon MacDonald <si...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I think it is time. I just responded to the guy who opened the
>>> ticket on JIRA saying roughly the same thing. Also, I've been dealing
>>> with some internal guys for the past 24 hours on camera problems so I
>>> really think it would be less of a pain in the ass to bring the camera
>>> internal to Cordova.
>>>
>>> I'm willing to take a first pass at it starting tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Simon Mac Donald
>>> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hey
>>>>
>>>> We're getting a lot of people complaining about the camera crashing
>>>> and the lifecycle issues. Now, I've tried using the built in
>>>> WebView.restoreState methods, and all I have gotten is a crashing
>>>> application, so I'm thinking that it might be time that we owned the
>>>> camera again. I'm willing to do the work on this one, but I want to
>>>> know if people think this is a good idea, or whether we should just
>>>> shunt this to plugin developers again and hope they don't abandon it.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>
Re: Time to own the camera?
Posted by Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>.
We should probably add this to the Road Map, since it'll be a
substantial change.
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Lorin Beer <lo...@adobe.com> wrote:
> We own the camera on other platforms, and the functionality it offers is pretty core to cordova usage. With the issues being reported, I think it makes sense to bring it back in.
>
> - Lorin Beer
> On 2012-09-20, at 11:52 AM, Simon MacDonald <si...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I think it is time. I just responded to the guy who opened the
>> ticket on JIRA saying roughly the same thing. Also, I've been dealing
>> with some internal guys for the past 24 hours on camera problems so I
>> really think it would be less of a pain in the ass to bring the camera
>> internal to Cordova.
>>
>> I'm willing to take a first pass at it starting tomorrow.
>>
>> Simon Mac Donald
>> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hey
>>>
>>> We're getting a lot of people complaining about the camera crashing
>>> and the lifecycle issues. Now, I've tried using the built in
>>> WebView.restoreState methods, and all I have gotten is a crashing
>>> application, so I'm thinking that it might be time that we owned the
>>> camera again. I'm willing to do the work on this one, but I want to
>>> know if people think this is a good idea, or whether we should just
>>> shunt this to plugin developers again and hope they don't abandon it.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Joe
>
Re: Time to own the camera?
Posted by Lorin Beer <lo...@adobe.com>.
We own the camera on other platforms, and the functionality it offers is pretty core to cordova usage. With the issues being reported, I think it makes sense to bring it back in.
- Lorin Beer
On 2012-09-20, at 11:52 AM, Simon MacDonald <si...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, I think it is time. I just responded to the guy who opened the
> ticket on JIRA saying roughly the same thing. Also, I've been dealing
> with some internal guys for the past 24 hours on camera problems so I
> really think it would be less of a pain in the ass to bring the camera
> internal to Cordova.
>
> I'm willing to take a first pass at it starting tomorrow.
>
> Simon Mac Donald
> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey
>>
>> We're getting a lot of people complaining about the camera crashing
>> and the lifecycle issues. Now, I've tried using the built in
>> WebView.restoreState methods, and all I have gotten is a crashing
>> application, so I'm thinking that it might be time that we owned the
>> camera again. I'm willing to do the work on this one, but I want to
>> know if people think this is a good idea, or whether we should just
>> shunt this to plugin developers again and hope they don't abandon it.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Joe
Re: Time to own the camera?
Posted by Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>.
Sounds good. Let me know which branch you're working on. I have some
camera code kicking around here as well to add to this.
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Simon MacDonald
<si...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, I think it is time. I just responded to the guy who opened the
> ticket on JIRA saying roughly the same thing. Also, I've been dealing
> with some internal guys for the past 24 hours on camera problems so I
> really think it would be less of a pain in the ass to bring the camera
> internal to Cordova.
>
> I'm willing to take a first pass at it starting tomorrow.
>
> Simon Mac Donald
> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey
>>
>> We're getting a lot of people complaining about the camera crashing
>> and the lifecycle issues. Now, I've tried using the built in
>> WebView.restoreState methods, and all I have gotten is a crashing
>> application, so I'm thinking that it might be time that we owned the
>> camera again. I'm willing to do the work on this one, but I want to
>> know if people think this is a good idea, or whether we should just
>> shunt this to plugin developers again and hope they don't abandon it.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Joe
Re: Time to own the camera?
Posted by Simon MacDonald <si...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, I think it is time. I just responded to the guy who opened the
ticket on JIRA saying roughly the same thing. Also, I've been dealing
with some internal guys for the past 24 hours on camera problems so I
really think it would be less of a pain in the ass to bring the camera
internal to Cordova.
I'm willing to take a first pass at it starting tomorrow.
Simon Mac Donald
http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey
>
> We're getting a lot of people complaining about the camera crashing
> and the lifecycle issues. Now, I've tried using the built in
> WebView.restoreState methods, and all I have gotten is a crashing
> application, so I'm thinking that it might be time that we owned the
> camera again. I'm willing to do the work on this one, but I want to
> know if people think this is a good idea, or whether we should just
> shunt this to plugin developers again and hope they don't abandon it.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Joe
Re: Time to own the camera?
Posted by Brion Vibber <bv...@wikimedia.org>.
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We're getting a lot of people complaining about the camera crashing
> and the lifecycle issues. Now, I've tried using the built in
> WebView.restoreState methods, and all I have gotten is a crashing
> application, so I'm thinking that it might be time that we owned the
> camera again. I'm willing to do the work on this one, but I want to
> know if people think this is a good idea, or whether we should just
> shunt this to plugin developers again and hope they don't abandon it.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
Our 'Wiki Loves Monuments' photo-upload app has run into a lot of OOM
crashes on Android when using the camera, and these are terribly hard to
debug -- we can't even reproduce them reliably on our own devices, and it's
unclear what we can do about them.
(We're using FILE_URI not DATA_URI, and in most cases shouldn't be
triggering much processing of the images, but we get crashes in the bitmap
read in the camera return handler code sometimes.)
If there's a solid solution in using an in-app camera screen, I would
strongly welcome it.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com / bvibber @ wikimedia.org)