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Posted to users@tapestry.apache.org by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> on 2005/10/20 17:14:50 UTC
[COMMUNITY HELP] Sites and Success Stories
Nothing spurs success like success, nothing spurs adoption like adoption.
One of the great hurdles Tapestry faces is not technological, it is social.
Most people reading this list already know that Tapestry is a terrific
technology for building all kinds of web applications.
However, for the rest of the world, its easy to lose sight of Tapestry
in the maze of options; in the web framework arena, across different
platforms, there are hundreds of options to choose from! Even in the
Java space there are 50 or more competitors. Struts, JSF, WebWork,
Spring MVC, Echo2 and RIFE all come to mind.
Perhaps the most frequently asked question I get is: How many sites
are running Tapestry?
The answer is: I have no idea! We don't sell software licenses, we
don't even have a good way to track the number of downloads. Adoption
can be somewhat estimated by the ever increasing flow of discussions
here, and the level of discourse on Tapestry elsewhere.
To start addressing this I've set up a new page on the Wiki:
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-tapestry/PoweredByTapestry
I encourage ALL Tapestry users who have deployed sites using Tapestry
to add a short entry to this page.
This is one aspect of marketing Tapestry and its an important one.
Remember that using Tapestry means being a member of the larger
Tapestry community. You don't owe us money, but you do have an
obligation to give back to the community, from enlightened self
interest if nothing else. If you enjoy using Tapestry, and dread
having to switch to something else, then you owe it to yourself, and
the community, to do your part in marketing Tapestry to the world and
keeping it a success and viable option for future work for everyone!
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
Creator, Jakarta Tapestry
Creator, Jakarta HiveMind
Professional Tapestry training, mentoring, support
and project work. http://howardlewisship.com
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Re: [COMMUNITY HELP] Sites and Success Stories
Posted by Bryan Lewis <br...@maine.rr.com>.
Did something happen to that wiki page? I took another look at it and
several stories that were there yesterday have been deleted.
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Subject: Re: [COMMUNITY HELP] Sites and Success Stories
> Howard Lewis Ship <hlship <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Perhaps the most frequently asked question I get is: How many sites
> > are running Tapestry?
>
> I googled using the following search terms:
>
> inurl:service inurl:page inurl:app
>
> and found 415,000 pages. Most are Tapestry applications. Not sure how
> many sites though.
>
> --
> Author of a book for learning Tapestry (www.agileskills2.org/EWDT)
>
>
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Re: [COMMUNITY HELP] Sites and Success Stories
Posted by Kent Tong <ke...@cpttm.org.mo>.
Howard Lewis Ship <hlship <at> gmail.com> writes:
> Perhaps the most frequently asked question I get is: How many sites
> are running Tapestry?
I googled using the following search terms:
inurl:service inurl:page inurl:app
and found 415,000 pages. Most are Tapestry applications. Not sure how
many sites though.
--
Author of a book for learning Tapestry (www.agileskills2.org/EWDT)
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Re: [COMMUNITY HELP] Sites and Success Stories
Posted by Konstantin Ignatyev <kg...@yahoo.com>.
I looked at the wiki page with success stories and
even I glanced at that briefly I have noticed that
everybody mentions steep learning curve in one form or
another.
I think that it is not fair anymore to say that
Tapestry has that steep learning curve â it depends
on what we are comparing. Surely Tapestry is harder to
learn than Struts ( for simple one page
âapplicationâ ), but if we compare Tapestry and
JSF then Tapestry is definitely easier to learn and
use than JSF.
There are some very brief notes about JSF (MyFaces)
experience
http://kgionline.com/presentations/wa/readme/notes/jsf-myfaces-notes.html
(note - this is not a permanent link )
I think that Tapestry community should do something to
dispel the âsteep learning curveâ myth.
--- Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nothing spurs success like success, nothing spurs
> adoption like adoption.
>
> One of the great hurdles Tapestry faces is not
> technological, it is social.
>
> Most people reading this list already know that
> Tapestry is a terrific
> technology for building all kinds of web
> applications.
>
> However, for the rest of the world, its easy to lose
> sight of Tapestry
> in the maze of options; in the web framework arena,
> across different
> platforms, there are hundreds of options to choose
> from! Even in the
> Java space there are 50 or more competitors.
> Struts, JSF, WebWork,
> Spring MVC, Echo2 and RIFE all come to mind.
>
> Perhaps the most frequently asked question I get is:
> How many sites
> are running Tapestry?
>
> The answer is: I have no idea! We don't sell
> software licenses, we
> don't even have a good way to track the number of
> downloads. Adoption
> can be somewhat estimated by the ever increasing
> flow of discussions
> here, and the level of discourse on Tapestry
> elsewhere.
>
> To start addressing this I've set up a new page on
> the Wiki:
>
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-tapestry/PoweredByTapestry
>
> I encourage ALL Tapestry users who have deployed
> sites using Tapestry
> to add a short entry to this page.
>
> This is one aspect of marketing Tapestry and its an
> important one.
> Remember that using Tapestry means being a member of
> the larger
> Tapestry community. You don't owe us money, but you
> do have an
> obligation to give back to the community, from
> enlightened self
> interest if nothing else. If you enjoy using
> Tapestry, and dread
> having to switch to something else, then you owe it
> to yourself, and
> the community, to do your part in marketing Tapestry
> to the world and
> keeping it a success and viable option for future
> work for everyone!
>
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
> Creator, Jakarta Tapestry
> Creator, Jakarta HiveMind
>
> Professional Tapestry training, mentoring, support
> and project work. http://howardlewisship.com
>
>
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