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Copy Apache
I have a requirement to migrate our application to a better configuration
server. For this, can I copy apache from the present server to the new
server? So, my question is whether we can just copy the apache folder to
the new server or does it have to be installed? For tomcat, I had copied
from the source to the destination as it is perfectly fine to copy tomcat.
I hope, my question is clear.
Please, help in solving the doubt.
regards
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RE: Copy Apache
Posted by Randhir singh <ra...@elitecore.com>.
I copied the $APACHE_HOME from the old server to the new one and it works
fine. I guess, this is contradictory to your answer.
regards
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From: Gregor Schneider [mailto:rc46fi@googlemail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 8:47 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Copy Apache
André,
just a quick one, since this becomes OT, but if you like, we can
continue this discussion via personal email.
André, if I'm not mistaken, you're quite new to the list.
I've seen lots of similar posts here, which I consider being a
complete neglet of respect to the people contributing to this list.
They always follow the same principle:
- You can sense that they've no clue about Tomcat / Apache / name-the-topic
- Their questions can easily be answered by referring to the docs
- They always have a "requirement" from a client to solve an issue
- Often, not always, you'll find the word "ASAP" within their post
- At least to me the impression occurs, that those guys consider the
list as some free-of-charge-solve-my-problems-thingy
- On top, usually they don't provide any useful information which
helps solving their problem
- And most certain, after their problem is solved, you' ll never see
them here again contributing
- I don't care about the whereabouts / wherefroms of any poster of
this list, and I'd give the same answer to anybody showing the same
attitude, wether they're Indian, Chinese, German, US, UK, even Belgian
;)
- I'm a cosmopolitan, I'm Europena, I'm German, and I just don't care
where somebody has been born & bred nor where somebody comes from.
What I do care about is, that some freeloaders seem to take the
contribution of this list-members for granted.
And yes, I've heard it so many times from prospects:
"Well, you've offered a great solution, but I can get the same thing
cheaper if I take company xyz".
Sure, company xyz has some offshore-locations, and a year later
meeting the same "ex-prospect" again, they tell me that either
- either the project went down the drains
- budget was quadrupled
...
Now tell me:
If you hire a company to, say, maintain the engine of your car?
Right: You expect, that this company has employees knowing how to do this.
What's happening here is, that the "mechanic" doesn't have any clue of
your car, goes to a pub where he knows the mechanics from other
companies are hanging out and asks them get his job done - for free,
of course.
Maybe this example is a bit over the top, but I guess you've got the
meaning.
Therefore, again:
- I'm a great fan of a *fair* competition
- I believe in Open Source and sharing of information (you got it:
"sharing" works only both ways!)
- Least I'm anything liek a racist - ask my friends and colleques in [
enter_any_country_here]
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:12 PM, André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, but the correct word is "ridiculous".
>
I'm also not joking about language-issues. Wish I had a dime for every
typo / mistake I'm making when posting here - I'd be off to SEA baking
in the sun for the rest of my life.
When I see such posts, usually I'm giving those guys a piece of
information from where they should be able to start (see my previous
answers to the OP).
However, sometimes enough is enough, and personally, after re-reading
my post, I even don't consider it as rude (apart from the
"throw-up-part") but as an open word.
Sorry if anyone is bugged by this slightly longer OT-post of mine,
however, I wanted to clarify that.
@André:
Feel free to discuss this or any other issue with me via private email.
Rgds
Gregor
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Re: Copy Apache
Posted by Gregor Schneider <rc...@googlemail.com>.
André,
just a quick one, since this becomes OT, but if you like, we can
continue this discussion via personal email.
André, if I'm not mistaken, you're quite new to the list.
I've seen lots of similar posts here, which I consider being a
complete neglet of respect to the people contributing to this list.
They always follow the same principle:
- You can sense that they've no clue about Tomcat / Apache / name-the-topic
- Their questions can easily be answered by referring to the docs
- They always have a "requirement" from a client to solve an issue
- Often, not always, you'll find the word "ASAP" within their post
- At least to me the impression occurs, that those guys consider the
list as some free-of-charge-solve-my-problems-thingy
- On top, usually they don't provide any useful information which
helps solving their problem
- And most certain, after their problem is solved, you' ll never see
them here again contributing
- I don't care about the whereabouts / wherefroms of any poster of
this list, and I'd give the same answer to anybody showing the same
attitude, wether they're Indian, Chinese, German, US, UK, even Belgian
;)
- I'm a cosmopolitan, I'm Europena, I'm German, and I just don't care
where somebody has been born & bred nor where somebody comes from.
What I do care about is, that some freeloaders seem to take the
contribution of this list-members for granted.
And yes, I've heard it so many times from prospects:
"Well, you've offered a great solution, but I can get the same thing
cheaper if I take company xyz".
Sure, company xyz has some offshore-locations, and a year later
meeting the same "ex-prospect" again, they tell me that either
- either the project went down the drains
- budget was quadrupled
...
Now tell me:
If you hire a company to, say, maintain the engine of your car?
Right: You expect, that this company has employees knowing how to do this.
What's happening here is, that the "mechanic" doesn't have any clue of
your car, goes to a pub where he knows the mechanics from other
companies are hanging out and asks them get his job done - for free,
of course.
Maybe this example is a bit over the top, but I guess you've got the meaning.
Therefore, again:
- I'm a great fan of a *fair* competition
- I believe in Open Source and sharing of information (you got it:
"sharing" works only both ways!)
- Least I'm anything liek a racist - ask my friends and colleques in [
enter_any_country_here]
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:12 PM, André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, but the correct word is "ridiculous".
>
I'm also not joking about language-issues. Wish I had a dime for every
typo / mistake I'm making when posting here - I'd be off to SEA baking
in the sun for the rest of my life.
When I see such posts, usually I'm giving those guys a piece of
information from where they should be able to start (see my previous
answers to the OP).
However, sometimes enough is enough, and personally, after re-reading
my post, I even don't consider it as rude (apart from the
"throw-up-part") but as an open word.
Sorry if anyone is bugged by this slightly longer OT-post of mine,
however, I wanted to clarify that.
@André:
Feel free to discuss this or any other issue with me via private email.
Rgds
Gregor
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RE: Copy Apache
Posted by Randhir singh <ra...@elitecore.com>.
I copied the $APACHE_HOME from the old server to the new one and it works
fine. I guess, this is contradictory to your answer.
regards
-----Original Message-----
From: André Warnier [mailto:aw@ice-sa.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:43 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Copy Apache
Gregor,
Gregor Schneider wrote:
> I'm sorry, but the whole question is rediculous
Yes, but the correct word is "ridiculous".
and needs a rephrasing at least.
And maybe your answer needs this also.
>
> - What does the OP want to copy? The whole of Apache? HTML only?
>
> To me it seems as if the OP doesn't have *any* clue when it comes to
> Apache / Tomcat (please also refer to his previous posts).
That seems indeed to be the case. But no more so than quite a few other
previous posters on this list. No need to get upset.
>
> I may appear rude,
Yes.
however, I believe that before asking questions in
> a list, ppl first should at least *try* to refer to the - in this case
> - excellent docs.
Agreed.
>
> If there are still open questions left, everybody is very welcome to
> ask their questions here, and I believe the list-members are more than
> willing to help.
Yes.
>
> However, most members of this list are helping during their spare
> time, free of charge, just because they like Tomcat and maybe believe
> in the principles of Open Source. On the other hand, most members of
> this list are also earning their pennies with software-development /
> administration / whatsoever.
True, wherever they are.
>
> Still, this does not mean that the members of this list are helping
> some offshore-wannabies to fullfill their client's (!) requirements,
> thus cutting off the branch they're sitting on.
Now that starts sounding a bit peculiar.
What do you mean by "offshore" ? Anyone not in the same particular
country where you presently are ? (because I don't think I am either)
And I thought this was a global Internet forum, dedicated to helping
Apache Tomcat users worldwide, irrespective of origin, culture,
nationality, beliefs. Am I wrong or naive ?
>
> Ever wondered how some offshore-companies can come up with their
> prices? Have a look at some posts, and you'll know...
I've been wondering about the same thing reading some posts, but the
presumed cultural or geographical origin or off-shoreness is not
well-correlated to the (lack of) quality of the posts.
>
> I don't have any problem with a fair competition and sharing
> information,
But the way you write, makes it sound as if you do, because the only
element you had to categorise this OP as unfair, offshore or whatever
was his name.
If I go by the names alone, I'd bet that quite a few of the Apache
Tomcat developers and helpers on this list are not direct descendants of
the Mayflower crew either. Your post could offend some of them too.
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Re: Copy Apache
Posted by André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com>.
Gregor,
Gregor Schneider wrote:
> I'm sorry, but the whole question is rediculous
Yes, but the correct word is "ridiculous".
and needs a rephrasing at least.
And maybe your answer needs this also.
>
> - What does the OP want to copy? The whole of Apache? HTML only?
>
> To me it seems as if the OP doesn't have *any* clue when it comes to
> Apache / Tomcat (please also refer to his previous posts).
That seems indeed to be the case. But no more so than quite a few other
previous posters on this list. No need to get upset.
>
> I may appear rude,
Yes.
however, I believe that before asking questions in
> a list, ppl first should at least *try* to refer to the - in this case
> - excellent docs.
Agreed.
>
> If there are still open questions left, everybody is very welcome to
> ask their questions here, and I believe the list-members are more than
> willing to help.
Yes.
>
> However, most members of this list are helping during their spare
> time, free of charge, just because they like Tomcat and maybe believe
> in the principles of Open Source. On the other hand, most members of
> this list are also earning their pennies with software-development /
> administration / whatsoever.
True, wherever they are.
>
> Still, this does not mean that the members of this list are helping
> some offshore-wannabies to fullfill their client's (!) requirements,
> thus cutting off the branch they're sitting on.
Now that starts sounding a bit peculiar.
What do you mean by "offshore" ? Anyone not in the same particular
country where you presently are ? (because I don't think I am either)
And I thought this was a global Internet forum, dedicated to helping
Apache Tomcat users worldwide, irrespective of origin, culture,
nationality, beliefs. Am I wrong or naive ?
>
> Ever wondered how some offshore-companies can come up with their
> prices? Have a look at some posts, and you'll know...
I've been wondering about the same thing reading some posts, but the
presumed cultural or geographical origin or off-shoreness is not
well-correlated to the (lack of) quality of the posts.
>
> I don't have any problem with a fair competition and sharing
> information,
But the way you write, makes it sound as if you do, because the only
element you had to categorise this OP as unfair, offshore or whatever
was his name.
If I go by the names alone, I'd bet that quite a few of the Apache
Tomcat developers and helpers on this list are not direct descendants of
the Mayflower crew either. Your post could offend some of them too.
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Re: Copy Apache
Posted by Gregor Schneider <rc...@googlemail.com>.
I'm sorry, but the whole question is rediculous and needs a rephrasing at least.
- What does the OP want to copy? The whole of Apache? HTML only?
To me it seems as if the OP doesn't have *any* clue when it comes to
Apache / Tomcat (please also refer to his previous posts).
I may appear rude, however, I believe that before asking questions in
a list, ppl first should at least *try* to refer to the - in this case
- excellent docs.
If there are still open questions left, everybody is very welcome to
ask their questions here, and I believe the list-members are more than
willing to help.
However, most members of this list are helping during their spare
time, free of charge, just because they like Tomcat and maybe believe
in the principles of Open Source. On the other hand, most members of
this list are also earning their pennies with software-development /
administration / whatsoever.
Still, this does not mean that the members of this list are helping
some offshore-wannabies to fullfill their client's (!) requirements,
thus cutting off the branch they're sitting on.
Ever wondered how some offshore-companies can come up with their
prices? Have a look at some posts, and you'll know...
I don't have any problem with a fair competition and sharing
information, however, postings like the one of the OP often make throw
up my breakfast.
Rgds
Gregor
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Re: Copy Apache
Posted by Kees de Kooter <kd...@gmail.com>.
What is the operating system?
2009/2/3 randhir.singh <ra...@elitecore.com>:
> I have a requirement to migrate our application to a better configuration
> server. For this, can I copy apache from the present server to the new
> server? So, my question is whether we can just copy the apache folder to
> the new server or does it have to be installed? For tomcat, I had copied
> from the source to the destination as it is perfectly fine to copy tomcat.
>
> I hope, my question is clear.
>
> Please, help in solving the doubt.
>
> regards
>
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