Slow but steady, please

["Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>]

I think the Wikipedia editing adventure did not have a good ending.  That is to be expected. 

I think that there is no point in attempting to edit Wikipedia in situations such as this.  These things invariably end badly.

On the other hand, there are level-headed folk out there, and you might find this heartening:
<http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/Apache-OpenOffice-Not-Dead-Yet>.

There's a technical error, and I have provided correction in a comment.

I have no interest in fact-checking any farther than that.  It's an opinion peace and there's no reason to address that.

What I did say, also by comment, was what I think matters.  That is about our performance, and how we play nice with others, all in the spirit of producing software for the public good.  I believe that what matters is how we conduct ourselves and deliver.  That's it.  Slow and steady as she goes.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip Rhodes [mailto:motley.crue.fan@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 15:55
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Wrongful information on the Wikipedia

Sorry, I missed the infobox when I looked at the page.  You're right,
having "Dormant" there is flat out wrong and very misleading.

I changed it to "Active" just now and added a ref pointer to the 4.1.2
release schedule that Andrea just provided.  I just hope there aren't
certain parties with a vested interest in denigrating AOO sitting around
planning to start a revert war over this.   :-(


Phil


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On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Max Merbald <ma...@gmx.de> wrote:

> Hi Phil,
>
> what I meant was the infobox at the top right. In that box it says that
> AOO is dormat, which is not correct and which is not in the citations. The
> presence of a citation does not necessry mean that the claimed info is in
> the citation. If people read on the Wikipedia that AOO is "dormant" they'll
> start looking for different office software.
>
> Max
>
>
>
> Am 03.09.2015 um 23:12 schrieb Phillip Rhodes:
>
>> I just looked at the Wikipedia page and don't see anything that's -
>> strictly speaking - incorrect, or lacking citations.  IOW, I don't see any
>> supportable rationale for removing anything that's there, although one
>> could question the motives of whoever made it a point to call out some
>> concerns about lack of activity in the first paragaph of the article.
>> Nonetheless, I think any attempt to modify that will face opposition.
>>
>> In a related vein, The Guardian recently ran this article titled "Should I
>> Switch From Apache OpenOffice to LibreOffice or Microsoft Office".
>>
>> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2015/sep/03/switch-openoffice-libreoffice-or-microsoft-office
>>
>> I don't know if there's any easy way to counter this narrative that's
>> spreading through the press, about AOO being dead/dormant/whatever, or how
>> LO is clearly "the winner", but it's definitely unfortunate to see this
>> kind of stuff spread around so widely.  :-(
>>
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
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>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Max,
>>>
>>> On 03 Sep 15, at 16:31, Max Merbald <ma...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi there,
>>>>
>>>> the Engish Wikipedia claims that AOO is dormant. I can't see where they
>>>>
>>> have the information from. The sources they use don't say so. I think
>>> it's
>>> definitely bad for OpenOffice when people think no more is done about it.
>>> The problem is also that LibreOffice has just published its version 5.0
>>> and
>>> is getting ahead of us.
>>>
>>> thanks for the alert.
>>>
>>> Wikipedia is composed by a crowd of editors, and you can change the entry
>>> to reflect the facts.
>>>
>>> So can anyone on this list. Becoming an editor at Wikipedia is not
>>> arduous.
>>>
>>> Louis
>>>
>>>> Max
>>>>
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Re: Slow but steady, please

[Bruce Byfield <bb...@axion.net>]

On Sunday 13 September 2015 08:33:37 AM Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
 
> On the other hand, there are level-headed folk out there, and you might find
> this heartening:
> <http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-> Blog/Apache-OpenOffice-Not-Dead-Yet>.
> 
> There's a technical error, and I have provided correction in a comment.

Which I have corrected -- and for which I thank you.

And for everyone else out there: if OpenOffice blunders, I will certainly report 
it. However, from a narrative point of view, I would much rather tell the 
story of a project that overcomes its difficulties and lives to flourish. I like 
a happy ending as much as anyone, so please give me one!

-- 
Bruce Byfield 604-421-7189 (on Pacific time)
https://brucebyfield.wordpress.com


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