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using shindig
Hi,
I'm trying to understand how to use Shindig in my container. If I understood
correctly after investigating the code a little bit, I must basically
implement PersonService and ActivityService. Is this correct? If not, what
should I do?
My plan is to use Shindig to make my webapp OpenSocial conformant. This is
what I can do with this project, right?
[]s,
--
Paulo Renato C. Siqueira
http://www.jcranky.com
Re: using shindig
Posted by Chris Chabot <ch...@google.com>.
See all that shindig does is render a gadget xml into html (ok and provide
the data api for communicating social information), in other words what it
does is that it turns:
http://www.labpixies.com/campaigns/todo/todo.xml
into:
http://modules.partuza.nl/gadgets/ifr?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.labpixies.com%2Fcampaigns%2Ftodo%2Ftodo.xml
it's not in any way, shape or form front-end code for creating iGoogle like
systems, nor do we ever want to do that .. Shindig is meant for existing
sites (that have an existing front-end) to add OpenSocial support... What
your looking for is a portal system, a javascript library or any other kind
of front-end solution, very different things
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Parrott, Justin <JP...@medplus.com>wrote:
> Actually no, that's not what I'm wanting. I am using joomla for
> something like that (CMS). What I do want though, is a way to control
> the placement of the gadgets in a container and to add the functionality
> of drag and drop like igoogle with a user's account tied around it. I
> have one page written out based off of the sample container that
> includes about 6 gadgets on separate divs which can be dragged around on
> the screen using scriptaculous but it seems very messy to me and I know
> there has to be a better way to get an overall 'igoogle' like feel. Not
> sure if there are any CMS instances out there which offer this piece or
> not. Maybe I'm still confusing things but I assumed that outside of
> just being a container that shindig is also the framework for the
> tie-ins to authentication etc. If there is a document on how this
> works, that would probably be the thing I need. Again, I appreciate the
> quick responses on this mail thread.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Chabot [mailto:chabotc@google.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 9:31 AM
> To: shindig-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: using shindig
>
> Hey Parrott,
>
> I think there is a slight confusion in expectations here. Shindig is the
> software that renders (opensocial gadgets), but not a social site or
> portal
> system ... to speak in flawed metaphors: it's only the engine that does
> one
> certain thing (rendering gadgets), but you still have to build a card
> around
> it :)
>
> In other words, if your looking for something that is 'a website,
> including
> user registration, authentication and portal management', then shindig
> is
> not at all what your looking for I'm afraid, since it doesn't do any of
> those things.
>
> Maybe someone on the list does have a reference for you if they have
> experience with what opensource systems are available for this, but I'm
> afraid that I personally don't.
>
> -- Chris
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Parrott, Justin
> <JP...@medplus.com>wrote:
>
> > I appreciate the response and I guess the 'social' aspect might
> actually
> > be something I will need. I want my gadgets to be personalized based
> > off of the person using them. (ie. if joe schmo logs in, he will be
> > able to have all of his gadgets placed where he had them before and
> any
> > login information pertaining to the gadget should remain). If 'open
> > social' is what I need, is there any documentation you can point me to
> > in order to get going. Also, too note, I'm rather new to web
> > development as a whole (authentication based mainly) so hopefully
> there
> > is something out there that will help me get going. Thanks in
> advance.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Chabot [mailto:chabotc@google.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:37 PM
> > To: shindig-dev@incubator.apache.org; Christian Schalk
> > Subject: Re: using shindig
> >
> > Judging by your blog your probably interested in the Java version of
> > shindig
> > right?
> >
> > Christian Schalk wrote some nice how-to's for the java's data
> > intergration
> > (indeed it's implementing the person, activity and app data classes),
> > however I don't have the URL's handy ... Christian could you link them
> > for
> > us by any chance?
> >
> > -- Chris
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Paulo Siqueira
> > <pa...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm trying to understand how to use Shindig in my container. If I
> > > understood
> > > correctly after investigating the code a little bit, I must
> basically
> > > implement PersonService and ActivityService. Is this correct? If
> not,
> > what
> > > should I do?
> > >
> > > My plan is to use Shindig to make my webapp OpenSocial conformant.
> > This is
> > > what I can do with this project, right?
> > >
> > > []s,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Paulo Renato C. Siqueira
> > > http://www.jcranky.com
> > >
> >
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> >
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> >
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RE: using shindig
Posted by "Parrott, Justin" <JP...@medplus.com>.
Actually no, that's not what I'm wanting. I am using joomla for
something like that (CMS). What I do want though, is a way to control
the placement of the gadgets in a container and to add the functionality
of drag and drop like igoogle with a user's account tied around it. I
have one page written out based off of the sample container that
includes about 6 gadgets on separate divs which can be dragged around on
the screen using scriptaculous but it seems very messy to me and I know
there has to be a better way to get an overall 'igoogle' like feel. Not
sure if there are any CMS instances out there which offer this piece or
not. Maybe I'm still confusing things but I assumed that outside of
just being a container that shindig is also the framework for the
tie-ins to authentication etc. If there is a document on how this
works, that would probably be the thing I need. Again, I appreciate the
quick responses on this mail thread.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Chabot [mailto:chabotc@google.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 9:31 AM
To: shindig-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: using shindig
Hey Parrott,
I think there is a slight confusion in expectations here. Shindig is the
software that renders (opensocial gadgets), but not a social site or
portal
system ... to speak in flawed metaphors: it's only the engine that does
one
certain thing (rendering gadgets), but you still have to build a card
around
it :)
In other words, if your looking for something that is 'a website,
including
user registration, authentication and portal management', then shindig
is
not at all what your looking for I'm afraid, since it doesn't do any of
those things.
Maybe someone on the list does have a reference for you if they have
experience with what opensource systems are available for this, but I'm
afraid that I personally don't.
-- Chris
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Parrott, Justin
<JP...@medplus.com>wrote:
> I appreciate the response and I guess the 'social' aspect might
actually
> be something I will need. I want my gadgets to be personalized based
> off of the person using them. (ie. if joe schmo logs in, he will be
> able to have all of his gadgets placed where he had them before and
any
> login information pertaining to the gadget should remain). If 'open
> social' is what I need, is there any documentation you can point me to
> in order to get going. Also, too note, I'm rather new to web
> development as a whole (authentication based mainly) so hopefully
there
> is something out there that will help me get going. Thanks in
advance.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Chabot [mailto:chabotc@google.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:37 PM
> To: shindig-dev@incubator.apache.org; Christian Schalk
> Subject: Re: using shindig
>
> Judging by your blog your probably interested in the Java version of
> shindig
> right?
>
> Christian Schalk wrote some nice how-to's for the java's data
> intergration
> (indeed it's implementing the person, activity and app data classes),
> however I don't have the URL's handy ... Christian could you link them
> for
> us by any chance?
>
> -- Chris
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Paulo Siqueira
> <pa...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to understand how to use Shindig in my container. If I
> > understood
> > correctly after investigating the code a little bit, I must
basically
> > implement PersonService and ActivityService. Is this correct? If
not,
> what
> > should I do?
> >
> > My plan is to use Shindig to make my webapp OpenSocial conformant.
> This is
> > what I can do with this project, right?
> >
> > []s,
> >
> > --
> > Paulo Renato C. Siqueira
> > http://www.jcranky.com
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: using shindig
Posted by Chris Chabot <ch...@google.com>.
> to speak in flawed metaphors: it's only the engine that does one certain
> thing (rendering gadgets), but you still have to build a card around it :)
>
s/card/car ... bah damn typos, sorry about that
Re: using shindig
Posted by Chris Chabot <ch...@google.com>.
Hey Parrott,
I think there is a slight confusion in expectations here. Shindig is the
software that renders (opensocial gadgets), but not a social site or portal
system ... to speak in flawed metaphors: it's only the engine that does one
certain thing (rendering gadgets), but you still have to build a card around
it :)
In other words, if your looking for something that is 'a website, including
user registration, authentication and portal management', then shindig is
not at all what your looking for I'm afraid, since it doesn't do any of
those things.
Maybe someone on the list does have a reference for you if they have
experience with what opensource systems are available for this, but I'm
afraid that I personally don't.
-- Chris
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Parrott, Justin <JP...@medplus.com>wrote:
> I appreciate the response and I guess the 'social' aspect might actually
> be something I will need. I want my gadgets to be personalized based
> off of the person using them. (ie. if joe schmo logs in, he will be
> able to have all of his gadgets placed where he had them before and any
> login information pertaining to the gadget should remain). If 'open
> social' is what I need, is there any documentation you can point me to
> in order to get going. Also, too note, I'm rather new to web
> development as a whole (authentication based mainly) so hopefully there
> is something out there that will help me get going. Thanks in advance.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Chabot [mailto:chabotc@google.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:37 PM
> To: shindig-dev@incubator.apache.org; Christian Schalk
> Subject: Re: using shindig
>
> Judging by your blog your probably interested in the Java version of
> shindig
> right?
>
> Christian Schalk wrote some nice how-to's for the java's data
> intergration
> (indeed it's implementing the person, activity and app data classes),
> however I don't have the URL's handy ... Christian could you link them
> for
> us by any chance?
>
> -- Chris
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Paulo Siqueira
> <pa...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to understand how to use Shindig in my container. If I
> > understood
> > correctly after investigating the code a little bit, I must basically
> > implement PersonService and ActivityService. Is this correct? If not,
> what
> > should I do?
> >
> > My plan is to use Shindig to make my webapp OpenSocial conformant.
> This is
> > what I can do with this project, right?
> >
> > []s,
> >
> > --
> > Paulo Renato C. Siqueira
> > http://www.jcranky.com
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: using shindig
Posted by "Parrott, Justin" <JP...@medplus.com>.
I appreciate the response and I guess the 'social' aspect might actually
be something I will need. I want my gadgets to be personalized based
off of the person using them. (ie. if joe schmo logs in, he will be
able to have all of his gadgets placed where he had them before and any
login information pertaining to the gadget should remain). If 'open
social' is what I need, is there any documentation you can point me to
in order to get going. Also, too note, I'm rather new to web
development as a whole (authentication based mainly) so hopefully there
is something out there that will help me get going. Thanks in advance.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Chabot [mailto:chabotc@google.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:37 PM
To: shindig-dev@incubator.apache.org; Christian Schalk
Subject: Re: using shindig
Judging by your blog your probably interested in the Java version of
shindig
right?
Christian Schalk wrote some nice how-to's for the java's data
intergration
(indeed it's implementing the person, activity and app data classes),
however I don't have the URL's handy ... Christian could you link them
for
us by any chance?
-- Chris
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Paulo Siqueira
<pa...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to understand how to use Shindig in my container. If I
> understood
> correctly after investigating the code a little bit, I must basically
> implement PersonService and ActivityService. Is this correct? If not,
what
> should I do?
>
> My plan is to use Shindig to make my webapp OpenSocial conformant.
This is
> what I can do with this project, right?
>
> []s,
>
> --
> Paulo Renato C. Siqueira
> http://www.jcranky.com
>
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Re: using shindig
Posted by Paulo Siqueira <pa...@gmail.com>.
Ok, I think I did that first step ok, but I can´t test it yet.
When I try to access ´http://localhost:8080/primata/social/rest/test´ I get
this error:
HTTP Status 401 - The request did not have a proper security token nor oauth
message and unauthenticated requests are not allowedI´m not familiar with
OAuth yet, so maybe I´m doing something terribly wrong.
Also, I didn´t put everything from the shindig web.xml in my own web.xml -
for now, I´m trying to run only the RESTApi, I´m not worried with gadgets
for the time being.
Is there some documentation on how I should proceed when it comes to
authentication and authorization?
thank you!
[]s,
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
> To bind your own custom implementations of Person, Activity and Data
> services you still use a Guice Module with the lines you mention, and you
> add that module to the list of modules in the web.xml (separated by a ; )
>
> The difference now is that we have specified the default implementations of
> these modules in the SPI interfaces with the ImplementedBy annotation on the
> class. This annotation is overridden by a guice module if you choose to do
> so.
>
> HTH
> Ian
>
>
> On 14 Oct 2008, at 15:15, Paulo Siqueira wrote:
>
> Hi again,
>>
>> Following the (outdated) tutorial, I´m trying to specify my implementation
>> of the Person / Activity / Data components. Where do I do this now?
>>
>> Previously, it was done by
>>
>> bind(PeopleService.class).to(BasicPeopleService.class);
>> bind(DataService.class).to(BasicDataService.class);
>> bind(ActivitiesService.class).to(BasicActivitiesService.class);
>>
>>
>> in the SocialApiGuiceModule. But this doesn´t seem to be true anymore. So,
>> where it is done now?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> [],
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Christian Schalk <cs...@google.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Ha ha! Sorry for sleeping while all this discussion was going on. :-)
>>> Yes, you are correct this is a tutorial that I put together last Spring
>>> for
>>> Google IO and for a JavaOne presentation.
>>>
>>> Since a lot of changes went into Shindig over the summer, I can update it
>>> to
>>> be current. From a conceptual point of view, the work is essentially the
>>> same, which is to provide an implementation for the 3 services
>>> (People,Activities, Data).
>>>
>>> I'll see if I can get it updated fairly soon and will be in touch.
>>> -Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Chirag Shah <ch...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is this the blog you mentioned? I tried to find a post related to
>>>>>
>>>> shindig,
>>>>
>>>>> but couldn't find it...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think this is the blog post:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://chrisschalk.com/shindig_docs/shindig_sql_tutorial/
>>> shindig_data_tutorials.html
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Paulo Siqueira <
>>>> paulo.siqueira@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Christian Schalk wrote some nice how-to's for the java's data
>>>>>>
>>>>> intergration
>>>>
>>>>> (indeed it's implementing the person, activity and app data classes),
>>>>>> however I don't have the URL's handy ... Christian could you link them
>>>>>>
>>>>> for
>>>>
>>>>> us by any chance?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Is this the blog you mentioned? I tried to find a post related to
>>>>>
>>>> shindig,
>>>>
>>>>> but couldn't find it...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://chrisschalk.com/blog/
>>>>>
>>>>> []s,
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Paulo Renato C. Siqueira
>>>>> http://www.jcranky.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Chirag Shah // (214) - 542 - 3385 (Mobile)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Schalk, Google Developer Advocate
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Paulo Renato C. Siqueira
>> http://www.jcranky.com
>>
>
>
--
Paulo Renato C. Siqueira
http://www.jcranky.com
Re: using shindig
Posted by Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk>.
To bind your own custom implementations of Person, Activity and Data
services you still use a Guice Module with the lines you mention, and
you add that module to the list of modules in the web.xml (separated
by a ; )
The difference now is that we have specified the default
implementations of these modules in the SPI interfaces with the
ImplementedBy annotation on the class. This annotation is overridden
by a guice module if you choose to do so.
HTH
Ian
On 14 Oct 2008, at 15:15, Paulo Siqueira wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> Following the (outdated) tutorial, I´m trying to specify my
> implementation
> of the Person / Activity / Data components. Where do I do this now?
>
> Previously, it was done by
>
> bind(PeopleService.class).to(BasicPeopleService.class);
> bind(DataService.class).to(BasicDataService.class);
> bind(ActivitiesService.class).to(BasicActivitiesService.class);
>
>
> in the SocialApiGuiceModule. But this doesn´t seem to be true
> anymore. So,
> where it is done now?
>
> Thank you!
>
> [],
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Christian Schalk
> <cs...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> Ha ha! Sorry for sleeping while all this discussion was going on. :-)
>> Yes, you are correct this is a tutorial that I put together last
>> Spring for
>> Google IO and for a JavaOne presentation.
>>
>> Since a lot of changes went into Shindig over the summer, I can
>> update it
>> to
>> be current. From a conceptual point of view, the work is
>> essentially the
>> same, which is to provide an implementation for the 3 services
>> (People,Activities, Data).
>>
>> I'll see if I can get it updated fairly soon and will be in touch.
>> -Chris
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Chirag Shah
>> <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Is this the blog you mentioned? I tried to find a post related to
>>> shindig,
>>>> but couldn't find it...
>>>
>>> I think this is the blog post:
>>>
>>>
>> http://chrisschalk.com/shindig_docs/shindig_sql_tutorial/
>> shindig_data_tutorials.html
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Paulo Siqueira
>>> <paulo.siqueira@gmail.com
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Christian Schalk wrote some nice how-to's for the java's data
>>> intergration
>>>>> (indeed it's implementing the person, activity and app data
>>>>> classes),
>>>>> however I don't have the URL's handy ... Christian could you
>>>>> link them
>>> for
>>>>> us by any chance?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is this the blog you mentioned? I tried to find a post related to
>>> shindig,
>>>> but couldn't find it...
>>>>
>>>> http://chrisschalk.com/blog/
>>>>
>>>> []s,
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Paulo Renato C. Siqueira
>>>> http://www.jcranky.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chirag Shah // (214) - 542 - 3385 (Mobile)
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Chris Schalk, Google Developer Advocate
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Paulo Renato C. Siqueira
> http://www.jcranky.com
Re: using shindig
Posted by Paulo Siqueira <pa...@gmail.com>.
Hi again,
Following the (outdated) tutorial, I´m trying to specify my implementation
of the Person / Activity / Data components. Where do I do this now?
Previously, it was done by
bind(PeopleService.class).to(BasicPeopleService.class);
bind(DataService.class).to(BasicDataService.class);
bind(ActivitiesService.class).to(BasicActivitiesService.class);
in the SocialApiGuiceModule. But this doesn´t seem to be true anymore. So,
where it is done now?
Thank you!
[],
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Christian Schalk <cs...@google.com> wrote:
> Ha ha! Sorry for sleeping while all this discussion was going on. :-)
> Yes, you are correct this is a tutorial that I put together last Spring for
> Google IO and for a JavaOne presentation.
>
> Since a lot of changes went into Shindig over the summer, I can update it
> to
> be current. From a conceptual point of view, the work is essentially the
> same, which is to provide an implementation for the 3 services
> (People,Activities, Data).
>
> I'll see if I can get it updated fairly soon and will be in touch.
> -Chris
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Chirag Shah <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Is this the blog you mentioned? I tried to find a post related to
> > shindig,
> > > but couldn't find it...
> >
> > I think this is the blog post:
> >
> >
> http://chrisschalk.com/shindig_docs/shindig_sql_tutorial/shindig_data_tutorials.html
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Paulo Siqueira <paulo.siqueira@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Christian Schalk wrote some nice how-to's for the java's data
> > intergration
> > >> (indeed it's implementing the person, activity and app data classes),
> > >> however I don't have the URL's handy ... Christian could you link them
> > for
> > >> us by any chance?
> > >>
> > >
> > > Is this the blog you mentioned? I tried to find a post related to
> > shindig,
> > > but couldn't find it...
> > >
> > > http://chrisschalk.com/blog/
> > >
> > > []s,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Paulo Renato C. Siqueira
> > > http://www.jcranky.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Chirag Shah // (214) - 542 - 3385 (Mobile)
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Chris Schalk, Google Developer Advocate
>
--
Paulo Renato C. Siqueira
http://www.jcranky.com
Re: using shindig
Posted by Christian Schalk <cs...@google.com>.
Ha ha! Sorry for sleeping while all this discussion was going on. :-)
Yes, you are correct this is a tutorial that I put together last Spring for
Google IO and for a JavaOne presentation.
Since a lot of changes went into Shindig over the summer, I can update it to
be current. From a conceptual point of view, the work is essentially the
same, which is to provide an implementation for the 3 services
(People,Activities, Data).
I'll see if I can get it updated fairly soon and will be in touch.
-Chris
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Chirag Shah <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Is this the blog you mentioned? I tried to find a post related to
> shindig,
> > but couldn't find it...
>
> I think this is the blog post:
>
> http://chrisschalk.com/shindig_docs/shindig_sql_tutorial/shindig_data_tutorials.html
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Paulo Siqueira <pa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Christian Schalk wrote some nice how-to's for the java's data
> intergration
> >> (indeed it's implementing the person, activity and app data classes),
> >> however I don't have the URL's handy ... Christian could you link them
> for
> >> us by any chance?
> >>
> >
> > Is this the blog you mentioned? I tried to find a post related to
> shindig,
> > but couldn't find it...
> >
> > http://chrisschalk.com/blog/
> >
> > []s,
> >
> > --
> > Paulo Renato C. Siqueira
> > http://www.jcranky.com
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Chirag Shah // (214) - 542 - 3385 (Mobile)
>
--
Chris Schalk, Google Developer Advocate
Re: using shindig
Posted by Chirag Shah <ch...@gmail.com>.
> Is this the blog you mentioned? I tried to find a post related to shindig,
> but couldn't find it...
I think this is the blog post:
http://chrisschalk.com/shindig_docs/shindig_sql_tutorial/shindig_data_tutorials.html
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Paulo Siqueira <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Christian Schalk wrote some nice how-to's for the java's data intergration
>> (indeed it's implementing the person, activity and app data classes),
>> however I don't have the URL's handy ... Christian could you link them for
>> us by any chance?
>>
>
> Is this the blog you mentioned? I tried to find a post related to shindig,
> but couldn't find it...
>
> http://chrisschalk.com/blog/
>
> []s,
>
> --
> Paulo Renato C. Siqueira
> http://www.jcranky.com
>
--
Chirag Shah // (214) - 542 - 3385 (Mobile)
Re: using shindig
Posted by Paulo Siqueira <pa...@gmail.com>.
>
> Christian Schalk wrote some nice how-to's for the java's data intergration
> (indeed it's implementing the person, activity and app data classes),
> however I don't have the URL's handy ... Christian could you link them for
> us by any chance?
>
Is this the blog you mentioned? I tried to find a post related to shindig,
but couldn't find it...
http://chrisschalk.com/blog/
[]s,
--
Paulo Renato C. Siqueira
http://www.jcranky.com
Re: using shindig
Posted by Paulo Siqueira <pa...@gmail.com>.
Yes, I'm interested in the Java version. That URL would be great =)
[]s,
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Chris Chabot <ch...@google.com> wrote:
> Judging by your blog your probably interested in the Java version of
> shindig
> right?
>
> Christian Schalk wrote some nice how-to's for the java's data intergration
> (indeed it's implementing the person, activity and app data classes),
> however I don't have the URL's handy ... Christian could you link them for
> us by any chance?
>
> -- Chris
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Paulo Siqueira <paulo.siqueira@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to understand how to use Shindig in my container. If I
> > understood
> > correctly after investigating the code a little bit, I must basically
> > implement PersonService and ActivityService. Is this correct? If not,
> what
> > should I do?
> >
> > My plan is to use Shindig to make my webapp OpenSocial conformant. This
> is
> > what I can do with this project, right?
> >
> > []s,
> >
> > --
> > Paulo Renato C. Siqueira
> > http://www.jcranky.com
> >
>
--
Paulo Renato C. Siqueira
http://www.jcranky.com
Re: using shindig
Posted by Chris Chabot <ch...@google.com>.
Judging by your blog your probably interested in the Java version of shindig
right?
Christian Schalk wrote some nice how-to's for the java's data intergration
(indeed it's implementing the person, activity and app data classes),
however I don't have the URL's handy ... Christian could you link them for
us by any chance?
-- Chris
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Paulo Siqueira <pa...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to understand how to use Shindig in my container. If I
> understood
> correctly after investigating the code a little bit, I must basically
> implement PersonService and ActivityService. Is this correct? If not, what
> should I do?
>
> My plan is to use Shindig to make my webapp OpenSocial conformant. This is
> what I can do with this project, right?
>
> []s,
>
> --
> Paulo Renato C. Siqueira
> http://www.jcranky.com
>
Re: using shindig
Posted by Chris Chabot <ch...@google.com>.
Ps, shindig does render the gadgets that are written for the (iGoogle)
'gadget specification', but if you just want internal self developed gadgets
in your own controlled envirionment, there's really no need for such
overkill, you could build your own simple web-app-in-iframe solution.
If you want to include the iGoogle gadgets that don't use features like
finance (which is iGoogle only until someone writes a public replacement),
or even OpenSocial gadgets, then shindig def is the best way of doing so.
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:56 PM, Parrott, Justin <JP...@medplus.com>wrote:
> You know this is a good thread because I've been debating on my usage of
> shindig. I would like to create a portal page for my company's intranet
> which has gadgets in a container that are customizable. I will probably
> never include the social aspect of it though as in friends, profiles, etc.
> since I'm handling that through my main intranet page. Is shindig really
> the right answer for me? Are there any other projects that simply act as
> gadget containers or am I on the right track here? Thanks in advance.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: peeyush gulati [mailto:peeyushgulati@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 4:41 PM
> To: shindig-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: using shindig
>
> Yes you need to imlement PersonService, AppDataService and ActivityService.
> etc
>
> For reference you can have a look at PARTUZA'S code base if you are
> looking
> for using PHP shindig. It will give you a idea of how services are being
> implemented.
>
> Other than that small changes like setting web_prefix in config file.
>
> I am more on PHP side, so don,t know what you are planning to use PHP/Java
> . This is common for both so go ahead.
>
> Cheers
> Peeyush
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Paulo Siqueira <paulo.siqueira@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to understand how to use Shindig in my container. If I
> > understood
> > correctly after investigating the code a little bit, I must basically
> > implement PersonService and ActivityService. Is this correct? If not,
> what
> > should I do?
> >
> > My plan is to use Shindig to make my webapp OpenSocial conformant. This
> is
> > what I can do with this project, right?
> > €
> > []s,
> >
> > --
> > Paulo Renato C. Siqueira
> > http://www.jcranky.com
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks and Regards
> Peeyush Gulati
> +91-9916304135
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: using shindig
Posted by peeyush gulati <pe...@gmail.com>.
Dear Parrott
Do correct me if i am going wrong in aspect to what you asked ?
You simply need a container on which you can run gadgets through an intra
net site of your company.
You are not willing to include the social aspects of it through as in
friends, profiles etc
Ok this would work only if you are running I/O gadgets which have got no
relation with people, persistence of data what they are doing or maintaining
activities as you do not want to have the social aspects of it.
Also another the possible way out could be include all these aspects(people,
persistence,data) from your intra nets main page and you could get all
things set.
Hope i answered your questions
Cheers
Peeyush
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Parrott, Justin <JP...@medplus.com>wrote:
> You know this is a good thread because I've been debating on my usage of
> shindig. I would like to create a portal page for my company's intranet
> which has gadgets in a container that are customizable. I will probably
> never include the social aspect of it though as in friends, profiles, etc.
> since I'm handling that through my main intranet page. Is shindig really
> the right answer for me? Are there any other projects that simply act as
> gadget containers or am I on the right track here? Thanks in advance.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: peeyush gulati [mailto:peeyushgulati@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 4:41 PM
> To: shindig-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: using shindig
>
> Yes you need to imlement PersonService, AppDataService and ActivityService.
> etc
>
> For reference you can have a look at PARTUZA'S code base if you are
> looking
> for using PHP shindig. It will give you a idea of how services are being
> implemented.
>
> Other than that small changes like setting web_prefix in config file.
>
> I am more on PHP side, so don,t know what you are planning to use PHP/Java
> . This is common for both so go ahead.
>
> Cheers
> Peeyush
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Paulo Siqueira <paulo.siqueira@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to understand how to use Shindig in my container. If I
> > understood
> > correctly after investigating the code a little bit, I must basically
> > implement PersonService and ActivityService. Is this correct? If not,
> what
> > should I do?
> >
> > My plan is to use Shindig to make my webapp OpenSocial conformant. This
> is
> > what I can do with this project, right?
> > €
> > []s,
> >
> > --
> > Paulo Renato C. Siqueira
> > http://www.jcranky.com
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks and Regards
> Peeyush Gulati
> +91-9916304135
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: using shindig
Posted by "Parrott, Justin" <JP...@medplus.com>.
You know this is a good thread because I've been debating on my usage of shindig. I would like to create a portal page for my company's intranet which has gadgets in a container that are customizable. I will probably never include the social aspect of it though as in friends, profiles, etc. since I'm handling that through my main intranet page. Is shindig really the right answer for me? Are there any other projects that simply act as gadget containers or am I on the right track here? Thanks in advance.
-----Original Message-----
From: peeyush gulati [mailto:peeyushgulati@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 4:41 PM
To: shindig-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: using shindig
Yes you need to imlement PersonService, AppDataService and ActivityService.
etc
For reference you can have a look at PARTUZA'S code base if you are looking
for using PHP shindig. It will give you a idea of how services are being
implemented.
Other than that small changes like setting web_prefix in config file.
I am more on PHP side, so don,t know what you are planning to use PHP/Java
. This is common for both so go ahead.
Cheers
Peeyush
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Paulo Siqueira <pa...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to understand how to use Shindig in my container. If I
> understood
> correctly after investigating the code a little bit, I must basically
> implement PersonService and ActivityService. Is this correct? If not, what
> should I do?
>
> My plan is to use Shindig to make my webapp OpenSocial conformant. This is
> what I can do with this project, right?
> €
> []s,
>
> --
> Paulo Renato C. Siqueira
> http://www.jcranky.com
>
--
Thanks and Regards
Peeyush Gulati
+91-9916304135
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Re: using shindig
Posted by peeyush gulati <pe...@gmail.com>.
Yes you need to imlement PersonService, AppDataService and ActivityService.
etc
For reference you can have a look at PARTUZA'S code base if you are looking
for using PHP shindig. It will give you a idea of how services are being
implemented.
Other than that small changes like setting web_prefix in config file.
I am more on PHP side, so don,t know what you are planning to use PHP/Java
. This is common for both so go ahead.
Cheers
Peeyush
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Paulo Siqueira <pa...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to understand how to use Shindig in my container. If I
> understood
> correctly after investigating the code a little bit, I must basically
> implement PersonService and ActivityService. Is this correct? If not, what
> should I do?
>
> My plan is to use Shindig to make my webapp OpenSocial conformant. This is
> what I can do with this project, right?
> €
> []s,
>
> --
> Paulo Renato C. Siqueira
> http://www.jcranky.com
>
--
Thanks and Regards
Peeyush Gulati
+91-9916304135