RE: oneway messages in soap

["Forden, David Keith" <Da...@epiqus.com>]

Well there are a few. We are developing a commercial product and use the JMS
implementation inherent in the application server chosen by our customer
(e.g. BEA WebLogic, SilverStream). I have tried JBossMQ (formerly SpyderMQ)
and it seems to be quite OK. It is fully JMS 1.0.2 compliant. It is open
source.

Open3, OpenJMS, JORAM and ObjectCube (from Enhydra.org) are more examples
available, go forth and evaluate (I'll go fifth :-)).

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Mangala Gowri Nanda [mailto:mangala_gowri@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 1:21 PM
To: soap-user@xml.apache.org
Subject: RE: oneway messages in soap


Thats an interesting point Dave. Is there any public domain
implementation of JMS that you would recommend ?

Thanks,

gowri

--- "Forden, David Keith" <Da...@epiqus.com> wrote:
> With Apache SOAP ther is an issue with one way message. If the
> consumer is
> down there will be no persistent store for the message. I know
> because I
> have looked at the code and there is no message persistence. This is
> one
> fairly compelling reason to use something like JMS or MQ Series as a
> message
> transport.
> 
> In terms of decoupling I cannot see the benefit of one way message
> unless
> there is guaranteed delivery (using persistent queue or similar). You
> may
> want to think about that.
> 
> Dave
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mangala Gowri Nanda [mailto:mangala_gowri@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 8:03 PM
> To: soap-user@xml.apache.org
> Subject: RE: oneway messages in soap
> 
> 
> Thanks Dave :-) But there must be a simpler solution !
> 
> The TODO under the soap source directory has the following comment:
> 
> - change the APIs to enable one to use this code to do just one
> directional messaging instead of only RPCs. The code already does
> support one directional messaging (the RPC layer is on top of that),
> but I think we can improve the APIs a bit to make that clearer.
> 
> Could someone point me to this hidden oracle ?
> 
> Or I will have to wait for Dave's product to roll out !
> 
> gowri
> 
> 
> --- "Forden, David Keith" <Da...@epiqus.com> wrote:
> > Implement SOAP over JMS :-). We are doing that currently in a new
> > product.
> > That way the one-way message just gets queued, committed to the
> > messaging
> > system and returns. The recipient can dequeue it anytime. This
> frees
> > them
> > and effectively decouples the 2 components.
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mangala Gowri Nanda [mailto:mangala_gowri@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 7:33 PM
> > To: soap-user@xml.apache.org
> > Subject: oneway messages in soap
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > How do you send oneway messages with SOAP ?
> > 
> > I want to send a message from a client to a server in a
> non-blocking
> > mode. However, both invoke() and send() block until a response is
> > received from the server. I tried setting a very small timeout
> (1ms).
> > Then the client returns immediately after sending the message with
> a
> > "read timed out" exception (which is okay) but tomcat also throws a
> > whole lot of exceptions because of the broken pipe. There must be a
> > cleaner, more efficient way to do this ! Could someone tell me how
> ?
> > 
> > Also how does notification work ?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > gowri
> > 
> > 
> > --- graham glass <gr...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > > hi dennis,
> > > 
> > 
> > (...)
> > 
> > > 
> > > i don't understand what you mean about SOAP being strict
> > > request-response vs. CORBA/IIOP.
> > > 
> > > SOAP supports oneway, notification, etc.
> > > in addition, two SOAP programs can happily communicate with each
> > > other bidirectionally.
> > > 
> > > our company's GLUE platform supports the same kind of
> functionality
> > > as CORBA and RMI without adding anything to the standard SOAP
> > > protocol.
> > > 
> > > the main things that we're waiting for on the standards front
> > > are security and transactions, and these seem like they'll arrive
> > > very soon.
> > > 
> > > cheers,
> > > graham
> > > 
> > 
> > (...)
> > 
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