deja vu: text-base penalty discussion

[Kean Johnston <jk...@sco.com>]

Hello fellow subverters :)

It's been a while since I last seriously looked at svn. I
decided to again today and picked up 1.2.3. Two tiny compile
errors (will be submitting a patch for that later) and all
was good. However, I noticed that my pet peeve - the text-base
penalty, is still extant. A year or two ago we had a long thread
on this but I see not much has changed. I'd like to re-open the
issue.

Here's what I'd dearly like to see. I would like it to be
possible to do text-base-less checkouts. Think: nightly
build machines. These are machines that have absolutely no
need of anything except for the raw files. No-one is ever
going to be editing there. In fact, the filesystem gets wiped
every night. In such environments (not uncommon) the current
text-base implementation imposes a 100% space penalty. Now
that I think about, such machines could do without the entire
.svn directory and just give me a raw dump. In fact thats such
a common thing to want to do I am sure there is a command that
already does it and someone is going to tell me what it is :)

Even in the case where I am doing active development, my
gigabit connection to teh server is plenty fast enought that
if I chose to do so, it would be nice to have a single file
that lists stat and crc32 type information as a means of
detecting that a file had changed. If it has, and I do a
svn diff, I care more about the disk space than the network
overhead. Or perhaps re-introduce the idea of 'svn edit',
which when executed, creates the local copy for network-less
diffs etc.

I am totally up for making this happen, if others agree or
would find it useful. But before I do I'd like to hear from
the powers-that-be what the problems are likely to be.

Kean

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Re: deja vu: text-base penalty discussion

[Kean Johnston <jk...@sco.com>]

>> .svn directory and just give me a raw dump. In fact thats such
>> a common thing to want to do I am sure there is a command that
>> already does it and someone is going to tell me what it is :)
> 
> 
> svn export

:) Thankee.

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Re: deja vu: text-base penalty discussion

[Steve Williams <st...@kromestudios.com>]

Kean Johnston wrote:
> Here's what I'd dearly like to see. I would like it to be
> possible to do text-base-less checkouts. Think: nightly
> build machines. These are machines that have absolutely no
> need of anything except for the raw files. No-one is ever
> going to be editing there. In fact, the filesystem gets wiped
> every night. In such environments (not uncommon) the current
> text-base implementation imposes a 100% space penalty. Now
> that I think about, such machines could do without the entire
> .svn directory and just give me a raw dump. In fact thats such
> a common thing to want to do I am sure there is a command that
> already does it and someone is going to tell me what it is :)

svn export


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Re: deja vu: text-base penalty discussion

[Ximon Eighteen <xi...@int.greenpeace.org>]

Kean Johnston wrote:
> Hello fellow subverters :)
> 
> It's been a while since I last seriously looked at svn. I
> decided to again today and picked up 1.2.3. Two tiny compile
> errors (will be submitting a patch for that later) and all
> was good. However, I noticed that my pet peeve - the text-base
> penalty, is still extant. A year or two ago we had a long thread
> on this but I see not much has changed. I'd like to re-open the
> issue.
> 
> Here's what I'd dearly like to see. I would like it to be
> possible to do text-base-less checkouts. Think: nightly
> build machines. These are machines that have absolutely no
> need of anything except for the raw files. No-one is ever
> going to be editing there. In fact, the filesystem gets wiped
> every night. In such environments (not uncommon) the current
> text-base implementation imposes a 100% space penalty. Now
> that I think about, such machines could do without the entire
> .svn directory and just give me a raw dump. In fact thats such
> a common thing to want to do I am sure there is a command that
> already does it and someone is going to tell me what it is :)

svn export?


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