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Posted to dev@netbeans.apache.org by thufir <ha...@gmail.com> on 2017/11/05 12:58:32 UTC
gmane again
As has been discussed before, without result (except an unsubscribe):
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e645012d7a630cd61056e28b18fea1c156afe4879e539f635aa6a116@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
Who would have the following information, if not the list admin?
thufir writes:
> netbeans is going over to apache.
>
>
> will gmane add/reconfigure the mailing lists?
If someone provides Gmane with the group names and the new addresses,
and information about whether resubscription is required: yes.
It isn't going to happen without any information.
Send it to admin@gmane.org
Best regards,
Adam
asjo@koldfront.dkGmane-discuss@hawk.netfonds.nohttp://hawk.netfonds.no/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmane-discuss
To re-iterate: someone has the above requested information. Probably
only one person, or perhaps a few. That person is probably the list
admin for this group. Which is why I'd like to speak directly with the
list admin. Yes, we are all Apache -- which is wonderful -- but likely
only the list admin is able to answer the above questions. Hence the
second, or perhaps third, attempt to gather this information.
Yes, I've read "how to participate" and no, it doesn't answer the above
questions. Again, it's likely that only the list admin would know --
which is why I'm again trying to reach that individual in order to get
those answers.
Thanks,
Thufir
Re: gmane again
Posted by thufir <ha...@gmail.com>.
they just need to know whether subscribers to the current netbeans
mailing list will need to subscribe to the new apache mailing list.
Also, the group name. It's a hierarchy, like java packages. They start
with gmane because they're hosted on gmane.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_newsgroup#Hierarchies
for example: gmane.linux.ubuntu.user is a mailing list. Most apache
mailing lists are gmane.comp.apache.* so it can be pretty much whatever
"apache" wants. gmane.comp.apache.ide.netbeans? More that they need to
know about the subscriptions as above.
-Thufir
On 2017-11-05 02:20 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Sent it already, with you in the cc, with questions about what this means.
> What does resubscription mean? What are group names?
>
> Can you help and explain what it is you’re asking for?
>
> Gj
>
> On Sunday, November 5, 2017, thufir <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> thufir writes:
>>
>>> netbeans is going over to apache.
>>>
>>>
>>> will gmane add/reconfigure the mailing lists?
>> If someone provides Gmane with the group names and the new addresses,
>> and information about whether resubscription is required: yes.
>>
>> It isn't going to happen without any information.
>>
>> Send it to admin@gmane.org
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> asjo@koldfront.dkGmane-discuss@hawk.netfonds.nohttp://hawk.n
>> etfonds.no/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmane-discuss
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2017-11-05 01:34 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>
>>> What is the information that you need?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Geertjan
>>>
>>> On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 at 22:31, thufir <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> for gmane to continue, as they have, as described here:
>>>>
>>>> https://netbeans.org/community/lists/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can reiterate what information gmane would need with regards to
>>>> Apache. Typically that would be the individual(s) who admin this
>>>> specific list; they would know. Do point to where the required
>>>> information is contained in the "how to participate" guide. What is the
>>>> hoopla? It's two simple questions -- which I'll be more than glad to
>>>> forward to this list yet again. Asking these questions triggers
>>>> "unsubscribe" responses and pointing to "how to participate". So, not
>>>> eager to bombard the list again with questions just to get get
>>>> "unsubscribe" or "how to participate" links.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Geertjan, I'm not "convinced" that I specifically "need" to speak with
>>>> the list admin. Who else would have that information? Pointing to the
>>>> "how to participate" guide, yes, I'm well aware of that guide.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Thufir
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2017-11-05 11:30 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's great, thanks for the info.
>>>>>
>>>>> I contacted thufir, i.e., the person who started this thread, as well as
>>>>> gmane admin, and passed on the above information to them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thufir is absolutely convinced he needs to interact with the admins of
>>>>> Apache NetBeans, whoever they are, they don't exist, I have told him
>>>>>
>>>> that,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
Re: gmane again
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Sent it already, with you in the cc, with questions about what this means.
What does resubscription mean? What are group names?
Can you help and explain what it is you’re asking for?
Gj
On Sunday, November 5, 2017, thufir <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> thufir writes:
>
> > netbeans is going over to apache.
> >
> >
> > will gmane add/reconfigure the mailing lists?
>
> If someone provides Gmane with the group names and the new addresses,
> and information about whether resubscription is required: yes.
>
> It isn't going to happen without any information.
>
> Send it to admin@gmane.org
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Adam
>
> asjo@koldfront.dkGmane-discuss@hawk.netfonds.nohttp://hawk.n
> etfonds.no/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmane-discuss
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2017-11-05 01:34 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
>> What is the information that you need?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Geertjan
>>
>> On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 at 22:31, thufir <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> for gmane to continue, as they have, as described here:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://netbeans.org/community/lists/
>>>
>>>
>>> I can reiterate what information gmane would need with regards to
>>> Apache. Typically that would be the individual(s) who admin this
>>> specific list; they would know. Do point to where the required
>>> information is contained in the "how to participate" guide. What is the
>>> hoopla? It's two simple questions -- which I'll be more than glad to
>>> forward to this list yet again. Asking these questions triggers
>>> "unsubscribe" responses and pointing to "how to participate". So, not
>>> eager to bombard the list again with questions just to get get
>>> "unsubscribe" or "how to participate" links.
>>>
>>>
>>> Geertjan, I'm not "convinced" that I specifically "need" to speak with
>>> the list admin. Who else would have that information? Pointing to the
>>> "how to participate" guide, yes, I'm well aware of that guide.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Thufir
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2017-11-05 11:30 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's great, thanks for the info.
>>>>
>>>> I contacted thufir, i.e., the person who started this thread, as well as
>>>> gmane admin, and passed on the above information to them.
>>>>
>>>> Thufir is absolutely convinced he needs to interact with the admins of
>>>> Apache NetBeans, whoever they are, they don't exist, I have told him
>>>>
>>> that,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
Re: gmane again
Posted by thufir <ha...@gmail.com>.
thufir writes:
> netbeans is going over to apache.
>
>
> will gmane add/reconfigure the mailing lists?
If someone provides Gmane with the group names and the new addresses,
and information about whether resubscription is required: yes.
It isn't going to happen without any information.
Send it to admin@gmane.org
Best regards,
Adam
asjo@koldfront.dkGmane-discuss@hawk.netfonds.nohttp://hawk.netfonds.no/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmane-discuss
On 2017-11-05 01:34 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> What is the information that you need?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geertjan
>
> On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 at 22:31, thufir <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> for gmane to continue, as they have, as described here:
>>
>>
>> https://netbeans.org/community/lists/
>>
>>
>> I can reiterate what information gmane would need with regards to
>> Apache. Typically that would be the individual(s) who admin this
>> specific list; they would know. Do point to where the required
>> information is contained in the "how to participate" guide. What is the
>> hoopla? It's two simple questions -- which I'll be more than glad to
>> forward to this list yet again. Asking these questions triggers
>> "unsubscribe" responses and pointing to "how to participate". So, not
>> eager to bombard the list again with questions just to get get
>> "unsubscribe" or "how to participate" links.
>>
>>
>> Geertjan, I'm not "convinced" that I specifically "need" to speak with
>> the list admin. Who else would have that information? Pointing to the
>> "how to participate" guide, yes, I'm well aware of that guide.
>>
>>
>> -Thufir
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2017-11-05 11:30 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>> That's great, thanks for the info.
>>>
>>> I contacted thufir, i.e., the person who started this thread, as well as
>>> gmane admin, and passed on the above information to them.
>>>
>>> Thufir is absolutely convinced he needs to interact with the admins of
>>> Apache NetBeans, whoever they are, they don't exist, I have told him
>> that,
>>
>>
Re: gmane again
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
What is the information that you need?
Thanks,
Geertjan
On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 at 22:31, thufir <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> for gmane to continue, as they have, as described here:
>
>
> https://netbeans.org/community/lists/
>
>
> I can reiterate what information gmane would need with regards to
> Apache. Typically that would be the individual(s) who admin this
> specific list; they would know. Do point to where the required
> information is contained in the "how to participate" guide. What is the
> hoopla? It's two simple questions -- which I'll be more than glad to
> forward to this list yet again. Asking these questions triggers
> "unsubscribe" responses and pointing to "how to participate". So, not
> eager to bombard the list again with questions just to get get
> "unsubscribe" or "how to participate" links.
>
>
> Geertjan, I'm not "convinced" that I specifically "need" to speak with
> the list admin. Who else would have that information? Pointing to the
> "how to participate" guide, yes, I'm well aware of that guide.
>
>
> -Thufir
>
>
>
> On 2017-11-05 11:30 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> > That's great, thanks for the info.
> >
> > I contacted thufir, i.e., the person who started this thread, as well as
> > gmane admin, and passed on the above information to them.
> >
> > Thufir is absolutely convinced he needs to interact with the admins of
> > Apache NetBeans, whoever they are, they don't exist, I have told him
> that,
>
>
Re: gmane again
Posted by thufir <ha...@gmail.com>.
for gmane to continue, as they have, as described here:
https://netbeans.org/community/lists/
I can reiterate what information gmane would need with regards to
Apache. Typically that would be the individual(s) who admin this
specific list; they would know. Do point to where the required
information is contained in the "how to participate" guide. What is the
hoopla? It's two simple questions -- which I'll be more than glad to
forward to this list yet again. Asking these questions triggers
"unsubscribe" responses and pointing to "how to participate". So, not
eager to bombard the list again with questions just to get get
"unsubscribe" or "how to participate" links.
Geertjan, I'm not "convinced" that I specifically "need" to speak with
the list admin. Who else would have that information? Pointing to the
"how to participate" guide, yes, I'm well aware of that guide.
-Thufir
On 2017-11-05 11:30 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> That's great, thanks for the info.
>
> I contacted thufir, i.e., the person who started this thread, as well as
> gmane admin, and passed on the above information to them.
>
> Thufir is absolutely convinced he needs to interact with the admins of
> Apache NetBeans, whoever they are, they don't exist, I have told him that,
Re: gmane again
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
That's great, thanks for the info.
I contacted thufir, i.e., the person who started this thread, as well as
gmane admin, and passed on the above information to them.
Thufir is absolutely convinced he needs to interact with the admins of
Apache NetBeans, whoever they are, they don't exist, I have told him that,
and have encouraged him to interact with the community as a whole, via this
mailing list that we are now on. I have no confidence that I have got the
message across to him, he keeps insisting he needs to be in touch with
Apache admins, and so I believe this thread will continue for some time,
and I hope others will help in trying to bring this point across to thufir.
Thanks,
Gj
On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 7:58 PM, Matthias Bläsing <mb...@doppel-helix.eu>
wrote:
> Hey Geertjan,
>
> Am Sonntag, den 05.11.2017, 13:59 +0100 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
> > I responded before and I'm responding again -- what is the information
> you
> > need, let's discuss this here as a community.
> >
> > And what is gmane and why is it important to you?
>
> gmane is mostly a mailinglist <-> NNTP gateway service. Instead of
> subscribing to mailinglists, you use a newsreader, that pulls the
> message via NNTP.
>
> There are many people, that feel better with a newsreader, than their
> mail software.
>
> To do its job, the gmane system needs to subscribe to the mailinglist,
> that it should act as a gateway for. So I assume, that thufir is asking
> for that.
>
> I think the necessary information can be found here:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
>
> Section "Talk with other users and NetBeans committers". Some more info
> can be found her:
>
> http://apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html
>
> HTH
>
> Matthias
>
Re: gmane again
Posted by Matthias Bläsing <mb...@doppel-helix.eu>.
Hey Geertjan,
Am Sonntag, den 05.11.2017, 13:59 +0100 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
> I responded before and I'm responding again -- what is the information you
> need, let's discuss this here as a community.
>
> And what is gmane and why is it important to you?
gmane is mostly a mailinglist <-> NNTP gateway service. Instead of
subscribing to mailinglists, you use a newsreader, that pulls the
message via NNTP.
There are many people, that feel better with a newsreader, than their
mail software.
To do its job, the gmane system needs to subscribe to the mailinglist,
that it should act as a gateway for. So I assume, that thufir is asking
for that.
I think the necessary information can be found here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate
Section "Talk with other users and NetBeans committers". Some more info
can be found her:
http://apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html
HTH
Matthias
Re: gmane again
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
I responded before and I'm responding again -- what is the information you
need, let's discuss this here as a community.
And what is gmane and why is it important to you?
Thanks,
Gj
On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 1:58 PM, thufir <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As has been discussed before, without result (except an unsubscribe):
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e645012d7a630cd61056e28
> b18fea1c156afe4879e539f635aa6a116@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
>
>
> Who would have the following information, if not the list admin?
>
>
>
> thufir writes:
>
> > netbeans is going over to apache.
> >
> >
> > will gmane add/reconfigure the mailing lists?
>
> If someone provides Gmane with the group names and the new addresses,
> and information about whether resubscription is required: yes.
>
> It isn't going to happen without any information.
>
> Send it to admin@gmane.org
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Adam
>
> asjo@koldfront.dkGmane-discuss@hawk.netfonds.nohttp://hawk.n
> etfonds.no/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmane-discuss
>
>
>
>
> To re-iterate: someone has the above requested information. Probably only
> one person, or perhaps a few. That person is probably the list admin for
> this group. Which is why I'd like to speak directly with the list admin.
> Yes, we are all Apache -- which is wonderful -- but likely only the list
> admin is able to answer the above questions. Hence the second, or perhaps
> third, attempt to gather this information.
>
> Yes, I've read "how to participate" and no, it doesn't answer the above
> questions. Again, it's likely that only the list admin would know -- which
> is why I'm again trying to reach that individual in order to get those
> answers.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Thufir
>