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Editor poll
We support way too many editors, making it difficult for a new person to
get up and running quickly. I think we need to support one or two
editors really well. We can certainly support more.
What editor do you use? What editor do you think needs better support?
Richard
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Re: Editor poll
Posted by Sachin <sa...@techblue.co.uk>.
Or just suggest the tinyMCE people to fix it themselves ;-)
Just leaving for home. Good night :-)
Regards
Sachin
On Wednesday 07 July 2010 10:36 PM, Vik Tara wrote:
> On 07/07/2010 05:49 PM, Sachin wrote:
>> Hi Vik
>>
>> I have removed the options from tinyMCE though. My tinyMCE only shows
>> those options which are usable.
>
> Cool - but it must be very late there - you should go home :)
>
>> But the problem is we can not export tinyMCE with lenya as there is
>> licencing problem. So if I have to update tinyMCE in future I have to
>> apply the changes again.
>>
> Florent is hosting an SVN for Lenya modules - we should create a
> module and place it there until such time as the licensing issues can
> be overcome somehow.
>
> Incidentally - as anyone ever contacted the TinyMCE people and asked
> them if they would consider a dual licence? Maybe worth a shot...
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Vik
>
>
>
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Re: Editor poll
Posted by Vik Tara <vi...@propco.co.uk>.
On 07/07/2010 05:49 PM, Sachin wrote:
> Hi Vik
>
> I have removed the options from tinyMCE though. My tinyMCE only shows
> those options which are usable.
Cool - but it must be very late there - you should go home :)
> But the problem is we can not export tinyMCE with lenya as there is
> licencing problem. So if I have to update tinyMCE in future I have to
> apply the changes again.
>
Florent is hosting an SVN for Lenya modules - we should create a module
and place it there until such time as the licensing issues can be
overcome somehow.
Incidentally - as anyone ever contacted the TinyMCE people and asked
them if they would consider a dual licence? Maybe worth a shot...
Regards
Vik
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Re: Editor poll
Posted by Sachin <sa...@techblue.co.uk>.
Hi Vik
I have removed the options from tinyMCE though. My tinyMCE only shows
those options which are usable. But the problem is we can not export
tinyMCE with lenya as there is licencing problem. So if I have to update
tinyMCE in future I have to apply the changes again.
Regards
Sachin
On Wednesday 07 July 2010 10:06 PM, Vik Tara wrote:
> Hi Sachin
>
>> I am using TinyMCE editor. Just integrated version 3.0 in my Lenya
>> 2.0.3.
>
> Well done!
>
>> But even the latest version of tinyMCE has all the deprecated
>>> tags(though it cleans up when we save the page). But this can create
>>> lot
>>> of confusion in user's mind as the options are still there.
>
> I think we should work on this during the Lenya meeting and remove
> those options.
>
> Otherwise you're right, it's very confusing.
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Vik
>
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Re: Editor poll
Posted by Vik Tara <vi...@propco.co.uk>.
Hi Sachin
> I am using TinyMCE editor. Just integrated version 3.0 in my Lenya 2.0.3.
Well done!
> But even the latest version of tinyMCE has all the deprecated
>> tags(though it cleans up when we save the page). But this can create lot
>> of confusion in user's mind as the options are still there.
I think we should work on this during the Lenya meeting and remove those
options.
Otherwise you're right, it's very confusing.
Regards
Vik
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Re: Editor poll
Posted by Sachin <sa...@techblue.co.uk>.
Hi
I am using TinyMCE editor. Just integrated version 3.0 in my Lenya 2.0.3.
All is working fine except couple of problems on which I am working
right now. But even the latest version of tinyMCE has all the deprecated
tags(though it cleans up when we save the page). But this can create lot
of confusion in user's mind as the options are still there.
Otherwise for a user TinyMCE is good one.
Regards
Sachin
On Wednesday 07 July 2010 09:42 PM, Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Am 07.07.10 15:42, schrieb Richard Frovarp:
>
>> What editor do you use?
>
> * Firedocs
> * Source editor ^-^
>
>> What editor do you think needs better support?
>
> Firedocs, especially re. documentation and examples.
>
> But I agree that we should ship an editor that is (kind-of) platform
> independent and doesn't require installing a plug-in. Alas, this seems
> only possible for (X)HTML documents.
>
> -- Andreas
>
>
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Re: Editor poll
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Am 07.07.10 15:42, schrieb Richard Frovarp:
> What editor do you use?
* Firedocs
* Source editor ^-^
> What editor do you think needs better support?
Firedocs, especially re. documentation and examples.
But I agree that we should ship an editor that is (kind-of) platform
independent and doesn't require installing a plug-in. Alas, this seems
only possible for (X)HTML documents.
-- Andreas
--
Andreas Hartmann, CTO
BeCompany GmbH
http://www.becompany.ch
Tel.: +41 (0) 43 818 57 01
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Re: Editor poll
Posted by Petteri Sulonen <ps...@gmail.com>.
I agree. I use TinyMCE and the source editor, because I got them to
work reasonably well -- not perfectly though.
Personally, I don't really care which editor is used, as long as it
works well. The big challenge IMO is to stay reasonably up-to-date
with it; browser updates tend to break dynamic user interfaces, which
means that a few-years-old editor will very likely have a number of
blocker-level issues when used with current-generation browsers.
TinyMCE as it is is just barely good enough; UI- and feature-wise it's
fine, it just has occasional hiccups, and I've had to disable some
features to stop users from mangling the pages. But if there's a
better alternative out there, I would have no objections to switching.
I would much prefer a simple editor with stripped-down functionality
that's solid as a rock to one that's more feature-rich but a little
bit flaky.
I know this isn't easy; even Google has trouble getting the Blogger
editor to work decently even on their own browser, and they certainly
don't want for resources.
/Petteri
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org> wrote:
> We support way too many editors, making it difficult for a new person to get
> up and running quickly. I think we need to support one or two editors really
> well. We can certainly support more.
>
> What editor do you use? What editor do you think needs better support?
>
> Richard
>
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Re: Editor poll
Posted by Gaurav Kalia <ga...@techblue.co.uk>.
Hi All
> What editor do you use? What editor do you think needs better support?
>
For us TineMCE if we can upgrade to the latest stable version of TineMCE
that will be great. :)
Thanks
Gaurav
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Re: Editor poll
Posted by Gaurav Kalia <ga...@techblue.co.uk>.
Here is the Demo of two editors
Below is the link for latest TinyMCE Editor:
http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/examples/full.php
Below is the link for upgraded version of FCK Editor which is now CK Editor:
http://ckeditor.com/demo
We can choose from these and if somebody else has a better option,
please share.
Thanks
Gaurav
On Wednesday 07 July 2010 08:19 PM, Gaurav Kalia wrote:
> Hi All
>> What editor do you use? What editor do you think needs better support?
>
> For us TinyMCE if we can upgrade to the latest stable version of
> TinyMCE that will be great. :)
>
> Thanks
>
> Gaurav
>
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Re: Editor poll
Posted by Gaurav Kalia <ga...@techblue.co.uk>.
Hi All
> What editor do you use? What editor do you think needs better support?
>
For us TinyMCE if we can upgrade to the latest stable version of TinyMCE
that will be great. :)
Thanks
Gaurav
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Re: Editor poll
Posted by Jürgen Ragaller <ra...@apache.org>.
Hi all
Am 07.07.2010 um 16:16 schrieb Rainer Schöpf:
> On Wed, 7 Jul 2010, Richard Frovarp wrote:
>
>> We support way too many editors, making it difficult for a new person to get
>> up and running quickly. I think we need to support one or two editors really
>> well. We can certainly support more.
>>
>> What editor do you use? What editor do you think needs better support?
TinyMCE (2.x)
>
> At my site (www.dante.de) we recommend TinyMCE. Users report problems with kupu
> (though I haven't been able to reproduce them). BXE is nice in principle, but
> nearly all users don't understand how to use it.
>
> I'd like to try and make TinyMCE 3.x work with lenya.
That would be great!
I tried that once but had problems to get it working.
Jürgen
null-oder-eins GmbH Zürich
web & graphic design
www.null-oder-eins.ch
ragaller@apache.org
Skype: callto://ragaller
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Re: Editor poll
Posted by Vik Tara <vi...@propco.co.uk>.
For me:
TinyMCE and Firedocs
On 07/07/2010 03:16 PM, Rainer Schöpf wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jul 2010, Richard Frovarp wrote:
>
> > We support way too many editors, making it difficult for a new person to get
> > up and running quickly. I think we need to support one or two editors really
> > well. We can certainly support more.
> >
> > What editor do you use? What editor do you think needs better support?
>
> At my site (www.dante.de) we recommend TinyMCE. Users report problems with kupu
> (though I haven't been able to reproduce them). BXE is nice in principle, but
> nearly all users don't understand how to use it.
>
> I'd like to try and make TinyMCE 3.x work with lenya.
>
> Rainer
>
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Re: Editor poll
Posted by Rainer Schöpf <ra...@gmx.net>.
On Wed, 7 Jul 2010, Richard Frovarp wrote:
> We support way too many editors, making it difficult for a new person to get
> up and running quickly. I think we need to support one or two editors really
> well. We can certainly support more.
>
> What editor do you use? What editor do you think needs better support?
At my site (www.dante.de) we recommend TinyMCE. Users report problems with kupu
(though I haven't been able to reproduce them). BXE is nice in principle, but
nearly all users don't understand how to use it.
I'd like to try and make TinyMCE 3.x work with lenya.
Rainer
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