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[jira] [Created] (SOLR-2841) Scriptable UpdateRequestChain

Scriptable UpdateRequestChain
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                 Key: SOLR-2841
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-2841
             Project: Solr
          Issue Type: New Feature
          Components: update
            Reporter: Jan Høydahl


UpdateProcessorChains must currently be defined with XML in solrconfig.xml. We should explore a scriptable chain implementation with a DSL that allows for full flexibility. The first step would be to make UpdateChain implementations pluggable in solrconfig.xml, for backward compat support.

Benefits and possibilities with a Scriptable UpdateChain:
* A compact DSL for defining Processors and Chains (Workflows would be a better, less limited term here)
* Keeping update processor config separate from solrconfig.xml gives better separations of roles
* Use this as an opportunity to natively support scripting language Processors (ideas from SOLR-1725)

This issue is spun off from SOLR-2823.

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[jira] [Commented] (SOLR-2841) Scriptable UpdateRequestChain

Posted by "Jan Høydahl (Commented JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Jan Høydahl commented on SOLR-2841:
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Interesting idea, but only update side has been considered this far.
                
> Scriptable UpdateRequestChain
> -----------------------------
>
>                 Key: SOLR-2841
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-2841
>             Project: Solr
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: update
>            Reporter: Jan Høydahl
>
> UpdateProcessorChains must currently be defined with XML in solrconfig.xml. We should explore a scriptable chain implementation with a DSL that allows for full flexibility. The first step would be to make UpdateChain implementations pluggable in solrconfig.xml, for backward compat support.
> Benefits and possibilities with a Scriptable UpdateChain:
> * A compact DSL for defining Processors and Chains (Workflows would be a better, less limited term here)
> * Keeping update processor config separate from solrconfig.xml gives better separations of roles
> * Use this as an opportunity to natively support scripting language Processors (ideas from SOLR-1725)
> This issue is spun off from SOLR-2823.

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[jira] [Commented] (SOLR-2841) Scriptable UpdateRequestChain

Posted by "Lance Norskog (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Lance Norskog commented on SOLR-2841:
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+1

Another use case for scripting at the top level is "multi-query" queries:  where the app creates the second based on the first. Would your proposal handle this problem?

Many use cases for grouping/collapsing can be implemented with 2 queries. Perhaps the guts of collapsing could be simplified if the more outré use cases could be pushed out into multiple queries.
                
> Scriptable UpdateRequestChain
> -----------------------------
>
>                 Key: SOLR-2841
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-2841
>             Project: Solr
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: update
>            Reporter: Jan Høydahl
>
> UpdateProcessorChains must currently be defined with XML in solrconfig.xml. We should explore a scriptable chain implementation with a DSL that allows for full flexibility. The first step would be to make UpdateChain implementations pluggable in solrconfig.xml, for backward compat support.
> Benefits and possibilities with a Scriptable UpdateChain:
> * A compact DSL for defining Processors and Chains (Workflows would be a better, less limited term here)
> * Keeping update processor config separate from solrconfig.xml gives better separations of roles
> * Use this as an opportunity to natively support scripting language Processors (ideas from SOLR-1725)
> This issue is spun off from SOLR-2823.

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[jira] [Commented] (SOLR-2841) Scriptable UpdateRequestChain

Posted by "Chris Male (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Chris Male commented on SOLR-2841:
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bq. Another use case for scripting at the top level is "multi-query" queries: where the app creates the second based on the first. Would your proposal handle this problem?

So you mean having scriptable query time logic? That seems a pretty scary thing to get into.
                
> Scriptable UpdateRequestChain
> -----------------------------
>
>                 Key: SOLR-2841
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-2841
>             Project: Solr
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: update
>            Reporter: Jan Høydahl
>
> UpdateProcessorChains must currently be defined with XML in solrconfig.xml. We should explore a scriptable chain implementation with a DSL that allows for full flexibility. The first step would be to make UpdateChain implementations pluggable in solrconfig.xml, for backward compat support.
> Benefits and possibilities with a Scriptable UpdateChain:
> * A compact DSL for defining Processors and Chains (Workflows would be a better, less limited term here)
> * Keeping update processor config separate from solrconfig.xml gives better separations of roles
> * Use this as an opportunity to natively support scripting language Processors (ideas from SOLR-1725)
> This issue is spun off from SOLR-2823.

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[jira] [Commented] (SOLR-2841) Scriptable UpdateRequestChain

Posted by "Jan Høydahl (Commented JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Jan Høydahl commented on SOLR-2841:
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The DSL could be based on Groovy, JRuby, Jython or JS. Here's my quasi sketch of a Groovy example from 2823:

...This approach also solves another wish of mine, namely being able to define chains outside of solrconfig.xml. Logically, configuring schema and document processing is done by a "content" guy, but configuring solrconfig.xml is done by the "hardware/operations" guys. Imagine a solr/conf/pipeline.groovy defined in solrconfig.xml:

{code:xml}
<updateProcessorChain class="solr.ScriptedUpdateProcessorChainFactory" file="updateprocessing.groovy" />
{code}

updateprocessing.groovy:
{code}
chain simple {
  process(langid)
  process(copyfield)
  chain(logAndRun)
}

chain moreComplex {
  process(langid)
  if(doc.getFieldValue("employees") > 10)
    process(copyfield)
  else
    chain(myOtherProcesses)
  doc.deleteField("title")
  chain(logAndRun)
}

chain logAndRun {
  process(log)
  process(run)
}

processor langid {
  class = "solr.LanguageIdentifierUpdateProcessorFactory"
  config("langid.fl", "title,body")
  config("langid.langField", "language")
  config("map", true)
}

processor copyfield {
  script = "copyfield.groovy"
  config("from", "title")
  config("to", "title_en")
}
{code}

I don't know what it takes to code such a thing, but if we had it, I'd never go back to defining pipelines in XML :)
                
> Scriptable UpdateRequestChain
> -----------------------------
>
>                 Key: SOLR-2841
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-2841
>             Project: Solr
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: update
>            Reporter: Jan Høydahl
>
> UpdateProcessorChains must currently be defined with XML in solrconfig.xml. We should explore a scriptable chain implementation with a DSL that allows for full flexibility. The first step would be to make UpdateChain implementations pluggable in solrconfig.xml, for backward compat support.
> Benefits and possibilities with a Scriptable UpdateChain:
> * A compact DSL for defining Processors and Chains (Workflows would be a better, less limited term here)
> * Keeping update processor config separate from solrconfig.xml gives better separations of roles
> * Use this as an opportunity to natively support scripting language Processors (ideas from SOLR-1725)
> This issue is spun off from SOLR-2823.

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