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Posted to dev@cayenne.apache.org by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org> on 2010/01/22 11:28:01 UTC
Apache retreat in Ireland
http://apache.eventbrite.com/
I am seriously considering going there. I like the fact that ASF is
trying to move from official expensive conference to a number of
smaller informal events. If others want to join we can share a car
(although the place is pretty close to Dublin, so public
transportation seems like a reasonable option).
Andrus
Re: Apache retreat in Ireland
Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
ApacheCon as opposed to a retreat has a fee (IIRC below|around a 1000
USD with a discount for committers). Also ApacheCons are held in
fairly expensive hotels. You don't have to stay in that hotel to
attend (though most people do, not sure why), but you still have to
find an alternative in the same area.
> I thought ASF will pay for airplane tickets if kindly asked to..
Apache recently started providing limited travel assistance, given on
a case to case basis to those considered in need of such assistance.
So this is more of an exception, not the rule. Also I think speakers'
all|some expenses are paid and the conference fee is waived.
> At least hotel rooms and food are included, don't they?
For retreat yes (although the details are not final on the food). For
ApacheCon - no.
> what do "Free" labels on retreat site mean?
No conference fee, and a free room.
Andrus
On Jan 26, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Andrey Razumovsky wrote:
> I see. And what about "fortune cost"? I thought ASF will pay for
> airplane
> tickets if kindly asked to.. At least hotel rooms and food are
> included,
> don't they? Otherwise, what do "Free" labels on retreat site mean?
>
> 2010/1/26 Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>
>
>> Yes, I was at ApacheCon once in 2006 coincidentally also held in
>> Dublin.
>> Apache conference format was the same as any big technology
>> conference, held
>> in a big hotel, with some open source "celebrity" keynote speaker,
>> corporate
>> sponsors (Google, Sun, etc.) having stands in the common area. And
>> then a
>> few days of sessions, with each session held by the Apache committers
>> talking about their projects (e.g. a sample schedule
>> http://us.apachecon.com/c/acus2009/schedule/2009/11/04 ). I am not
>> sure
>> what percentage of attendees are committers vs. non-Apache
>> developers, but I
>> think it is more than 50%. So it is a good albeit fairly expensive
>> way to
>> meet people from various projects (I didn't use this opportunity to
>> the full
>> extent in 2006 as I was still very new to Apache).
>>
>> This year there will be still a traditional conference in US in
>> November
>> (which I am tentatively going to attend and maybe give a Cayenne
>> presentation), but Apache is experimenting with "non-conference"
>> formats
>> (e.g. BarCamp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BarCamp ) - smaller
>> cheaper
>> informal gatherings that focus on more face-to-face meeting and
>> doesn't cost
>> a fortune for attendees.
>>
>> A retreat in Ireland is one such attempt. I think another
>> announcement with
>> more details is coming out soon, as currently the event organizers
>> are using
>> the registration on the eventbrite site as a questionnaire on
>> people's
>> preferences about the event details (e.g. catering vs. cooking,
>> etc.).
>>
>> Andrus
>>
>>
>> On Jan 26, 2010, at 12:37 AM, Andrey Razumovsky wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> When I first got a notification couple months ago, that seemed
>>> interesting.
>>> I sent some questions to those responsible for the organization,
>>> but never
>>> got an answer. Have you ever been on Apache Cons? So can you share
>>> some
>>> experience of what's going on there?
>>>
>>> 2010/1/22 Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>
>>>
>>> http://apache.eventbrite.com/
>>>>
>>>> I am seriously considering going there. I like the fact that ASF is
>>>> trying
>>>> to move from official expensive conference to a number of smaller
>>>> informal
>>>> events. If others want to join we can share a car (although the
>>>> place is
>>>> pretty close to Dublin, so public transportation seems like a
>>>> reasonable
>>>> option).
>>>>
>>>> Andrus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andrey
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Andrey
Re: Apache retreat in Ireland
Posted by Andrey Razumovsky <ra...@gmail.com>.
I see. And what about "fortune cost"? I thought ASF will pay for airplane
tickets if kindly asked to.. At least hotel rooms and food are included,
don't they? Otherwise, what do "Free" labels on retreat site mean?
2010/1/26 Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>
> Yes, I was at ApacheCon once in 2006 coincidentally also held in Dublin.
> Apache conference format was the same as any big technology conference, held
> in a big hotel, with some open source "celebrity" keynote speaker, corporate
> sponsors (Google, Sun, etc.) having stands in the common area. And then a
> few days of sessions, with each session held by the Apache committers
> talking about their projects (e.g. a sample schedule
> http://us.apachecon.com/c/acus2009/schedule/2009/11/04 ). I am not sure
> what percentage of attendees are committers vs. non-Apache developers, but I
> think it is more than 50%. So it is a good albeit fairly expensive way to
> meet people from various projects (I didn't use this opportunity to the full
> extent in 2006 as I was still very new to Apache).
>
> This year there will be still a traditional conference in US in November
> (which I am tentatively going to attend and maybe give a Cayenne
> presentation), but Apache is experimenting with "non-conference" formats
> (e.g. BarCamp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BarCamp ) - smaller cheaper
> informal gatherings that focus on more face-to-face meeting and doesn't cost
> a fortune for attendees.
>
> A retreat in Ireland is one such attempt. I think another announcement with
> more details is coming out soon, as currently the event organizers are using
> the registration on the eventbrite site as a questionnaire on people's
> preferences about the event details (e.g. catering vs. cooking, etc.).
>
> Andrus
>
>
> On Jan 26, 2010, at 12:37 AM, Andrey Razumovsky wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> When I first got a notification couple months ago, that seemed
>> interesting.
>> I sent some questions to those responsible for the organization, but never
>> got an answer. Have you ever been on Apache Cons? So can you share some
>> experience of what's going on there?
>>
>> 2010/1/22 Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>
>>
>> http://apache.eventbrite.com/
>>>
>>> I am seriously considering going there. I like the fact that ASF is
>>> trying
>>> to move from official expensive conference to a number of smaller
>>> informal
>>> events. If others want to join we can share a car (although the place is
>>> pretty close to Dublin, so public transportation seems like a reasonable
>>> option).
>>>
>>> Andrus
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Andrey
>>
>
>
--
Andrey
Re: Apache retreat in Ireland
Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
Yes, I was at ApacheCon once in 2006 coincidentally also held in
Dublin. Apache conference format was the same as any big technology
conference, held in a big hotel, with some open source "celebrity"
keynote speaker, corporate sponsors (Google, Sun, etc.) having stands
in the common area. And then a few days of sessions, with each session
held by the Apache committers talking about their projects (e.g. a
sample schedule http://us.apachecon.com/c/acus2009/schedule/
2009/11/04 ). I am not sure what percentage of attendees are
committers vs. non-Apache developers, but I think it is more than 50%.
So it is a good albeit fairly expensive way to meet people from
various projects (I didn't use this opportunity to the full extent in
2006 as I was still very new to Apache).
This year there will be still a traditional conference in US in
November (which I am tentatively going to attend and maybe give a
Cayenne presentation), but Apache is experimenting with "non-
conference" formats (e.g. BarCamp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
BarCamp ) - smaller cheaper informal gatherings that focus on more
face-to-face meeting and doesn't cost a fortune for attendees.
A retreat in Ireland is one such attempt. I think another announcement
with more details is coming out soon, as currently the event
organizers are using the registration on the eventbrite site as a
questionnaire on people's preferences about the event details (e.g.
catering vs. cooking, etc.).
Andrus
On Jan 26, 2010, at 12:37 AM, Andrey Razumovsky wrote:
> Hi,
>
> When I first got a notification couple months ago, that seemed
> interesting.
> I sent some questions to those responsible for the organization, but
> never
> got an answer. Have you ever been on Apache Cons? So can you share
> some
> experience of what's going on there?
>
> 2010/1/22 Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>
>
>> http://apache.eventbrite.com/
>>
>> I am seriously considering going there. I like the fact that ASF is
>> trying
>> to move from official expensive conference to a number of smaller
>> informal
>> events. If others want to join we can share a car (although the
>> place is
>> pretty close to Dublin, so public transportation seems like a
>> reasonable
>> option).
>>
>> Andrus
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Andrey
Re: Apache retreat in Ireland
Posted by Andrey Razumovsky <ra...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
When I first got a notification couple months ago, that seemed interesting.
I sent some questions to those responsible for the organization, but never
got an answer. Have you ever been on Apache Cons? So can you share some
experience of what's going on there?
2010/1/22 Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>
> http://apache.eventbrite.com/
>
> I am seriously considering going there. I like the fact that ASF is trying
> to move from official expensive conference to a number of smaller informal
> events. If others want to join we can share a car (although the place is
> pretty close to Dublin, so public transportation seems like a reasonable
> option).
>
> Andrus
>
--
Andrey