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Posted to users@camel.apache.org by Zhemzhitsky Sergey <Se...@troika.ru> on 2012/02/16 15:52:20 UTC
camel-nmr pub-sub
Hi there,
I’d like to use NMR to communicate between OSGi bundles and I need multiple consumers to subscribe to NMR endpoint.
The problem is only one of the consumers receive messages, although I can see multiple endpoints in JMX.
Is it possible to use NMR for pub-sub-like communication in camel?
Best Regards,
Sergey
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RE: camel-nmr pub-sub
Posted by Zhemzhitsky Sergey <Se...@troika.ru>.
>> There is an option in AMQ connection URIs to defer object serialization
Thanks a lot for the tip. I suppose it's the "marshal" option. Will check it a little bit later.
>> allows for multiple containers to be clustered together via JBI clustering.
Does it mean that I can pass messages by means of camel-nmr between different nodes of the cluster?
Best Regards,
Sergey
-----Original Message-----
From: Raul Kripalani [mailto:raul@fusesource.com]
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:25 PM
To: users@camel.apache.org
Subject: Re: camel-nmr pub-sub
NMR gives you synchronous invocations too (InOut), and allows for multiple containers to be clustered together via JBI clustering.
There is an option in AMQ connection URIs to defer object serialisation, especially intended for the VM transport where the objects don't need to be serialised. You might what to check it out.
On 17 Feb 2012, at 07:24, Zhemzhitsky Sergey <Se...@troika.ru> wrote:
> It seems that camel-vm component works in OSGi environment rather good to communicate between bundles and as it extends seda component it supports pub-sub.
>
> So now the question is why there are a lot of places and blogs that suggest to use nmr for inter-bundle communication if camel-vm could be used for the same purpose? I understand that nmr is not coupled with the camel and I'm wondering that benefits nmr can provide when it's used together with camel (except for exchange/transport listeners)?
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Sergey
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zhemzhitsky Sergey [mailto:Sergey_Zhemzhitsky@troika.ru]
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:21 PM
> To: users@camel.apache.org
> Subject: RE: camel-nmr pub-sub
>
> camel-seda only works in a single camel context. I need to communicate between OSGi bundles in the same JVM and camel-nmr fits rather well for this task.
>
> I need to pass rather large amount of data between bundles and JMS component even if used in the same VM (for example vm transport in activemq) requires serialization, so I'm looking for a better solution.
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Sergey
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ashwin Karpe [mailto:akarpe@fusesource.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:14 PM
> To: users@camel.apache.org
> Subject: Re: camel-nmr pub-sub
>
> Hi,
>
> Any particular reason why it has to be an NMR endpoint. Can this not be done using SEDA... The NMR in JBI was built around SEDA or JMS...
>
> Just a thought...
>
> - Ashwin...
>
> -----
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> Progress Software Corporation subsidiary) http://fusesource.com
>
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Re: camel-nmr pub-sub
Posted by Raul Kripalani <ra...@fusesource.com>.
NMR gives you synchronous invocations too (InOut), and allows for
multiple containers to be clustered together via JBI clustering.
There is an option in AMQ connection URIs to defer object
serialisation, especially intended for the VM transport where the
objects don't need to be serialised. You might what to check it out.
On 17 Feb 2012, at 07:24, Zhemzhitsky Sergey
<Se...@troika.ru> wrote:
> It seems that camel-vm component works in OSGi environment rather good to communicate between bundles and as it extends seda component it supports pub-sub.
>
> So now the question is why there are a lot of places and blogs that suggest to use nmr for inter-bundle communication if camel-vm could be used for the same purpose? I understand that nmr is not coupled with the camel and I'm wondering that benefits nmr can provide when it's used together with camel (except for exchange/transport listeners)?
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Sergey
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zhemzhitsky Sergey [mailto:Sergey_Zhemzhitsky@troika.ru]
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:21 PM
> To: users@camel.apache.org
> Subject: RE: camel-nmr pub-sub
>
> camel-seda only works in a single camel context. I need to communicate between OSGi bundles in the same JVM and camel-nmr fits rather well for this task.
>
> I need to pass rather large amount of data between bundles and JMS component even if used in the same VM (for example vm transport in activemq) requires serialization, so I'm looking for a better solution.
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Sergey
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ashwin Karpe [mailto:akarpe@fusesource.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:14 PM
> To: users@camel.apache.org
> Subject: Re: camel-nmr pub-sub
>
> Hi,
>
> Any particular reason why it has to be an NMR endpoint. Can this not be done using SEDA... The NMR in JBI was built around SEDA or JMS...
>
> Just a thought...
>
> - Ashwin...
>
> -----
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Ashwin Karpe
> Apache Camel Committer & Sr Principal Consultant FUSESource (a Progress Software Corporation subsidiary) http://fusesource.com
>
> Blog: http://opensourceknowledge.blogspot.com
> ---------------------------------------------------------
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RE: camel-nmr pub-sub
Posted by Zhemzhitsky Sergey <Se...@troika.ru>.
It seems that camel-vm component works in OSGi environment rather good to communicate between bundles and as it extends seda component it supports pub-sub.
So now the question is why there are a lot of places and blogs that suggest to use nmr for inter-bundle communication if camel-vm could be used for the same purpose? I understand that nmr is not coupled with the camel and I'm wondering that benefits nmr can provide when it's used together with camel (except for exchange/transport listeners)?
Best Regards,
Sergey
-----Original Message-----
From: Zhemzhitsky Sergey [mailto:Sergey_Zhemzhitsky@troika.ru]
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:21 PM
To: users@camel.apache.org
Subject: RE: camel-nmr pub-sub
camel-seda only works in a single camel context. I need to communicate between OSGi bundles in the same JVM and camel-nmr fits rather well for this task.
I need to pass rather large amount of data between bundles and JMS component even if used in the same VM (for example vm transport in activemq) requires serialization, so I'm looking for a better solution.
Best Regards,
Sergey
-----Original Message-----
From: Ashwin Karpe [mailto:akarpe@fusesource.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:14 PM
To: users@camel.apache.org
Subject: Re: camel-nmr pub-sub
Hi,
Any particular reason why it has to be an NMR endpoint. Can this not be done using SEDA... The NMR in JBI was built around SEDA or JMS...
Just a thought...
- Ashwin...
-----
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Ashwin Karpe
Apache Camel Committer & Sr Principal Consultant FUSESource (a Progress Software Corporation subsidiary) http://fusesource.com
Blog: http://opensourceknowledge.blogspot.com
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RE: camel-nmr pub-sub
Posted by Zhemzhitsky Sergey <Se...@troika.ru>.
camel-seda only works in a single camel context. I need to communicate between OSGi bundles in the same JVM and camel-nmr fits rather well for this task.
I need to pass rather large amount of data between bundles and JMS component even if used in the same VM (for example vm transport in activemq) requires serialization, so I'm looking for a better solution.
Best Regards,
Sergey
-----Original Message-----
From: Ashwin Karpe [mailto:akarpe@fusesource.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:14 PM
To: users@camel.apache.org
Subject: Re: camel-nmr pub-sub
Hi,
Any particular reason why it has to be an NMR endpoint. Can this not be done using SEDA... The NMR in JBI was built around SEDA or JMS...
Just a thought...
- Ashwin...
-----
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Apache Camel Committer & Sr Principal Consultant FUSESource (a Progress Software Corporation subsidiary) http://fusesource.com
Blog: http://opensourceknowledge.blogspot.com
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Re: camel-nmr pub-sub
Posted by Ashwin Karpe <ak...@fusesource.com>.
Hi,
Any particular reason why it has to be an NMR endpoint. Can this not be done
using SEDA... The NMR in JBI was built around SEDA or JMS...
Just a thought...
- Ashwin...
-----
---------------------------------------------------------
Ashwin Karpe
Apache Camel Committer & Sr Principal Consultant
FUSESource (a Progress Software Corporation subsidiary)
http://fusesource.com
Blog: http://opensourceknowledge.blogspot.com
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