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Full Installation vs. Language Pack
Hi all
I arrived at this page
http://www.openoffice.org/download/full_vs_lp.html
from the Help link in the Download page.
This explanation
"Since OpenOffice 3.4.0 dictionaries are no longer included in language
packs, only in full installations. Dictionaries are not part of the
OpenOffice project but stored on the extensions website (hosted by
Sourceforge.net). They get improved independent of the release schedule of
OpenOffice and are offered separately. They can be updated at any time when
new versions are released."
does not make *any* sense. Dictionaries are allowed to be included in the
Full Install but not on the Language packs because they "are not part of
the OpenOffice project"???
Is it just me who sees a double standard here?
If they are NOT part of the Project then NONE of them can be included with
the Full Install...
I think Apache needs to make this license problem clear...
I hope this is just some confusion and that in the next version the
Dictionaries are also included in the Language packs (and the help page is
corrected)
Just my 2 confused cents...
Re: Full Installation vs. Language Pack
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Pedro Lino wrote:
> I think the sentence should be rewritten to something like
> Currently dictionaries are not included in language packs, only in full
> installations. ...
Thanks, fixed earlier today at
http://www.openoffice.org/download/full_vs_lp.html
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: Full Installation vs. Language Pack
Posted by Pedro Lino <pe...@gmail.com>.
Hi Andrea
Thank you for the quick answer!
I think the sentence should be rewritten to something like
Currently dictionaries are not included in language packs, only in full
installations. This limitation is a technical issue (to be fixed as soon as
possible) which requires users who install language packs to take an extra
step to manually download the matching dictionary from the
Extensions website (hosted by Sourceforge.net).
Dictionaries get improved independent of the release schedule of OpenOffice
and are offered separately. They can be updated at any time when new
versions are released.
(some links could be added, namely to the Extensions site)
> I hope this is just some confusion and that in the next version the
>> Dictionaries are also included in the Language packs (and the help page is
>> corrected)
>>
>
> That's the aim. For sure, once the bug is fixed, we have no policy
> obstacles. We just need someone to take care of this bug!
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124473
>
>
I'm glad this was indeed a confusion. I sincerely hope that someone with
the needed skills does take on that task... Unfortunately I'm not able to
help with solving this problem.
Kind regards,
Pedro
Re: Full Installation vs. Language Pack
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Pedro Lino wrote:
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/full_vs_lp.html ...
> "Since OpenOffice 3.4.0 dictionaries are no longer included in language
> packs, only in full installations. Dictionaries are not part of the
> OpenOffice project but stored on the extensions website (hosted by
> Sourceforge.net). They get improved independent of the release schedule of
> OpenOffice and are offered separately. They can be updated at any time when
> new versions are released."
> does not make *any* sense.
Well, it does! I mean, all pieces are correct, but they are juxtaposed
in a bad way that indeed does not clarify anything and leads to wrong
interpretations.
Aim of the text is to say:
- Full installs have bundled dictionaries
- Language packs do not (not because of any policy, but simply because
we haven't adapted them yet to do so; the link you see in the page goes
to a bug report, for this reason)
- All dictionaries have their independent schedule, so their updates are
not necessarily aligned to the OpenOffice updates and their content is
not controlled by the project.
If you want to rephrase the page to reflect these concepts in a clearer
way, we can surely update it.
> Dictionaries are allowed to be included in the
> Full Install but not on the Language packs because they "are not part of
> the OpenOffice project"???
Wrong conclusions. It is a merely technical issue, see link in the
original page.
> Is it just me who sees a double standard here?
> If they are NOT part of the Project then NONE of them can be included with
> the Full Install...
> I think Apache needs to make this license problem clear...
There is no double standard and no ambiguity (except for the badly
written text). You will see a huge, successfully concluded, legal
analysis at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-117
> I hope this is just some confusion and that in the next version the
> Dictionaries are also included in the Language packs (and the help page is
> corrected)
That's the aim. For sure, once the bug is fixed, we have no policy
obstacles. We just need someone to take care of this bug!
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124473
Regards,
Andrea.
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