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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Loren Wilton <lw...@earthlink.net> on 2020/12/08 18:18:28 UTC

Possible spam sign

I just received a spam with this interesting From address:

From: "VA Rate Guide" 
<in...@amazon.com>

I wonder if it is worth checking for mail from more than one sender at once?

        Loren


Re: Possible spam sign

Posted by Benny Pedersen <me...@junc.eu>.
Loren Wilton skrev den 2020-12-08 19:18:
> I just received a spam with this interesting From address:
> 
> From: "VA Rate Guide"
> <in...@amazon.com>
> 
> I wonder if it is worth checking for mail from more than one sender at 
> once?

Received: from [47.140.131.2] (helo=watson1)
	by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4)
	(envelope-from <lw...@earthlink.net>)
	id 1kmhZF-0002TY-Oh
	for users@spamassassin.apache.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 13:18:29 -0500

clear text sasl password ?

if from: header have more domains to block, then block it :=)

Re: Possible spam sign

Posted by RW <rw...@googlemail.com>.
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 10:18:28 -0800
Loren Wilton wrote:

> I just received a spam with this interesting From address:
> 
> From: "VA Rate Guide" 
> <in...@amazon.com>
> 
> I wonder if it is worth checking for mail from more than one sender
> at once?

Multiple senders in "From" headers is rare, but RFC compliant.

What you have there isn't syntactically correct; the address aren't
properly separated by commas.

Re: Possible spam sign

Posted by John Hardin <jh...@impsec.org>.
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, Loren Wilton wrote:

>>>> That probably should have hit at least one scored base rule:
>>>>
>>>>   https://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/?rule=%2FFROM_2_
>>> 
>>> Nope. I think my rules are up to date, but maybe not.
>> 
>> Feel free to pastebin it and I'll take a look.
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WQ0Mm1iUsKhTj51mFJwwehuTatSm8Nux/view?usp=sharing

That was scanned by SA? Are the SA scan results buried in the 
X-VadeSecure-Cause header somehow?

It's too long to hit FROM_2_EMAILS_SHORT, and the longer message rules 
that it hits (__HTML_LENGTH_1024_1536 and __PDS_HTML_LENGTH_2048) are 
ham-only combos in the masscheck corpus.

I've added some new rules for masscheck eval based on it.

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Re: Possible spam sign

Posted by Loren Wilton <lw...@earthlink.net>.
>>> That probably should have hit at least one scored base rule:
>>>
>>>   https://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/?rule=%2FFROM_2_
>>
>> Nope. I think my rules are up to date, but maybe not.
>
> Feel free to pastebin it and I'll take a look.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WQ0Mm1iUsKhTj51mFJwwehuTatSm8Nux/view?usp=sharing


Re: Possible spam sign

Posted by John Hardin <jh...@impsec.org>.
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, Loren Wilton wrote:

>> That probably should have hit at least one scored base rule:
>>
>>   https://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/?rule=%2FFROM_2_
>
> Nope. I think my rules are up to date, but maybe not.

Feel free to pastebin it and I'll take a look.


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Re: Possible spam sign

Posted by Loren Wilton <lw...@earthlink.net>.
> That probably should have hit at least one scored base rule:
> 
>   https://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/?rule=%2FFROM_2_

Nope. I think my rules are up to date, but maybe not.


Re: Possible spam sign

Posted by John Hardin <jh...@impsec.org>.
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, Loren Wilton wrote:

> I just received a spam with this interesting From address:
>
> From: "VA Rate Guide" <in...@amazon.com>
>
> I wonder if it is worth checking for mail from more than one sender at once?

That probably should have hit at least one scored base rule:

   https://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/?rule=%2FFROM_2_



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Re: Possible spam sign

Posted by "Luis E. Muñoz" <sa...@lem.click>.
On 8 Dec 2020, at 12:47, Grant Taylor wrote:

> I think that the strict RFC specification does allow for multiple 
> senders, but I don't remember how it's done and it's so rare that I'd 
> accept the false positive.

Yes to both.

-lem

Re: Possible spam sign

Posted by Grant Taylor <gt...@tnetconsulting.net>.
On 12/8/20 11:18 AM, Loren Wilton wrote:
> I just received a spam with this interesting From address:
> 
> From: "VA Rate Guide" 
> <in...@amazon.com> 

Ew.

> I wonder if it is worth checking for mail from more than one sender at 
> once?

The BOFH in me would be tempted to add one point for each extra @.

I think that the strict RFC specification does allow for multiple 
senders, but I don't remember how it's done and it's so rare that I'd 
accept the false positive.



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