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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by "John D. Hardin" <jh...@impsec.org> on 2006/07/22 04:03:21 UTC

Delivery failure notification (fwd)

The folks over at accessintel (the server bouncing list traffic) don't
seem to know what they are doing.

I got a bounce and tried to let them know about it, and got the below
in return.

I hope the listadmins unsub them.

--
 John Hardin KA7OHZ    ICQ#15735746    http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/
 jhardin@impsec.org    FALaholic #11174    pgpk -a jhardin@impsec.org
 key: 0xB8732E79 - 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C  AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
  ...every time I sit down in front of a Windows machine I feel as
  if the computer is just a place for the manufacturers to put their
  advertising.                              -- fwadling on Y! SCOX
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 3 days until The 37th anniversary of Apollo 11 landing on the Moon


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 19:49:26 -0400
From: nortonadmin@accessintel.com
To: jhardin@impsec.org
Subject: [utf-8] Delivery failure notification@

Your message with Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) (fwd) 
could not be delivered to the following recipients:

abuse@accessintel.com, postmaster@accessintel.com

Please do not resend your original message.

Delivery attempts will continue to be made for 5  day(s).




Re: Delivery failure notification (fwd)

Posted by Nigel Frankcom <ni...@blue-canoe.net>.
They have a nice feedback link :->

http://www.accessintel.com/feedback.htm

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 22:00:52 -0800, John Andersen <js...@pen.homeip.net>
wrote:

>On Friday 21 July 2006 21:42, John D. Hardin wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Jul 2006, John Andersen wrote:
>> > On Friday 21 July 2006 18:03, John D. Hardin wrote:
>> > > The folks over at accessintel (the server bouncing list traffic) don't
>> > > seem to know what they are doing.
>> > >
>> > > I got a bounce and tried to let them know about it, and got the below
>> > > in return.
>> > >
>> > > I hope the listadmins unsub them.
>> >
>> > Its a microsoft smtp server.  What would you expect!!??!
>>
>> Well, yeah, but does that prevent them from defining "postmaster" and
>> "abuse" aliases?
>>
>> --
>
>
>Well there seems no point in going after addresses that would be used
>by technically competent admins, who would not be in this situation in
>the first place.
>
>My messages are indicating the email address in question is 
>  <SS...@accessintel.com>  and Email to that address does not
>bounce.  So I am making a point of CCing the entire thread to that
>person in the hopes that someone who actually READS that account
>might go upside the head of the sysadmin in charge.....
>
>
>
>
>>  John Hardin KA7OHZ    ICQ#15735746    http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/
>>  jhardin@impsec.org    FALaholic #11174    pgpk -a jhardin@impsec.org
>>  key: 0xB8732E79 - 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C  AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>  So Microsoft's invented the ASCII equivalent to ugly ink spots that
>>  appear on your letter when your pen is malfunctioning.
>>          -- Greg Andrews, about Microsoft's way to encode apostrophes
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>  3 days until The 37th anniversary of Apollo 11 landing on the Moon

Re: Delivery failure notification (fwd)

Posted by John Andersen <js...@pen.homeip.net>.
On Friday 21 July 2006 21:42, John D. Hardin wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jul 2006, John Andersen wrote:
> > On Friday 21 July 2006 18:03, John D. Hardin wrote:
> > > The folks over at accessintel (the server bouncing list traffic) don't
> > > seem to know what they are doing.
> > >
> > > I got a bounce and tried to let them know about it, and got the below
> > > in return.
> > >
> > > I hope the listadmins unsub them.
> >
> > Its a microsoft smtp server.  What would you expect!!??!
>
> Well, yeah, but does that prevent them from defining "postmaster" and
> "abuse" aliases?
>
> --


Well there seems no point in going after addresses that would be used
by technically competent admins, who would not be in this situation in
the first place.

My messages are indicating the email address in question is 
  <SS...@accessintel.com>  and Email to that address does not
bounce.  So I am making a point of CCing the entire thread to that
person in the hopes that someone who actually READS that account
might go upside the head of the sysadmin in charge.....




>  John Hardin KA7OHZ    ICQ#15735746    http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/
>  jhardin@impsec.org    FALaholic #11174    pgpk -a jhardin@impsec.org
>  key: 0xB8732E79 - 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C  AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>  So Microsoft's invented the ASCII equivalent to ugly ink spots that
>  appear on your letter when your pen is malfunctioning.
>          -- Greg Andrews, about Microsoft's way to encode apostrophes
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>  3 days until The 37th anniversary of Apollo 11 landing on the Moon

-- 
_____________________________________
John Andersen

Re: Delivery failure notification (fwd)

Posted by John Rudd <jr...@ucsc.edu>.
On Jul 21, 2006, at 10:51 PM, jdow wrote:

> From: "John D. Hardin" <jh...@impsec.org>
>
>> On Fri, 21 Jul 2006, John Andersen wrote:
>>> On Friday 21 July 2006 18:03, John D. Hardin wrote:
>>> > The folks over at accessintel (the server bouncing list traffic) 
>>> don't
>>> > seem to know what they are doing.
>>> >
>>> > I got a bounce and tried to let them know about it, and got the 
>>> below
>>> > in return.
>>> >
>>> > I hope the listadmins unsub them.
>>> Its a microsoft smtp server.  What would you expect!!??!
>> Well, yeah, but does that prevent them from defining "postmaster" and
>> "abuse" aliases?
>
> I suppose you sent a suitably scathing note to 
> domainadmin@pbimedia.com,
> their listed technical contact, didn't you?
>

And perhaps a report to the people at RFC-Ignorant?


Re: Delivery failure notification (fwd)

Posted by "John D. Hardin" <jh...@impsec.org>.
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006, jdow wrote:

> > Well, yeah, but does that prevent them from defining "postmaster" and
> > "abuse" aliases?
> 
> I suppose you sent a suitably scathing note to domainadmin@pbimedia.com,
> their listed technical contact, didn't you?

Not yet.

--
 John Hardin KA7OHZ    ICQ#15735746    http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/
 jhardin@impsec.org    FALaholic #11174    pgpk -a jhardin@impsec.org
 key: 0xB8732E79 - 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C  AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
 A weapons registration phase ... 4) allows for a degree of control
 to be exercised during the collection phase; 5) assists in the
 planning of the collection phase; ...
                      -- the UN, who "doesn't want to confiscate guns"
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
 2 days until The 37th anniversary of Apollo 11 landing on the Moon


Re: Delivery failure notification (fwd)

Posted by jdow <jd...@earthlink.net>.
From: "John D. Hardin" <jh...@impsec.org>

> On Fri, 21 Jul 2006, John Andersen wrote:
> 
>> On Friday 21 July 2006 18:03, John D. Hardin wrote:
>> > The folks over at accessintel (the server bouncing list traffic) don't
>> > seem to know what they are doing.
>> >
>> > I got a bounce and tried to let them know about it, and got the below
>> > in return.
>> >
>> > I hope the listadmins unsub them.
>> 
>> Its a microsoft smtp server.  What would you expect!!??!
> 
> Well, yeah, but does that prevent them from defining "postmaster" and
> "abuse" aliases?

I suppose you sent a suitably scathing note to domainadmin@pbimedia.com,
their listed technical contact, didn't you?

{^_^}

Re: Delivery failure notification (fwd)

Posted by "John D. Hardin" <jh...@impsec.org>.
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006, John Andersen wrote:

> On Friday 21 July 2006 18:03, John D. Hardin wrote:
> > The folks over at accessintel (the server bouncing list traffic) don't
> > seem to know what they are doing.
> >
> > I got a bounce and tried to let them know about it, and got the below
> > in return.
> >
> > I hope the listadmins unsub them.
> 
> Its a microsoft smtp server.  What would you expect!!??!

Well, yeah, but does that prevent them from defining "postmaster" and
"abuse" aliases?

--
 John Hardin KA7OHZ    ICQ#15735746    http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/
 jhardin@impsec.org    FALaholic #11174    pgpk -a jhardin@impsec.org
 key: 0xB8732E79 - 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C  AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
 So Microsoft's invented the ASCII equivalent to ugly ink spots that
 appear on your letter when your pen is malfunctioning.
         -- Greg Andrews, about Microsoft's way to encode apostrophes
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 3 days until The 37th anniversary of Apollo 11 landing on the Moon


Re: Delivery failure notification (fwd)

Posted by John Andersen <js...@pen.homeip.net>.
On Friday 21 July 2006 18:03, John D. Hardin wrote:
> The folks over at accessintel (the server bouncing list traffic) don't
> seem to know what they are doing.
>
> I got a bounce and tried to let them know about it, and got the below
> in return.
>
> I hope the listadmins unsub them.

Its a microsoft smtp server.  What would you expect!!??!

-- 
_____________________________________
John Andersen

Re: Delivery failure notification (fwd)

Posted by jdow <jd...@earthlink.net>.
Ah - spamming the list this way, I suspect.
{^_^}
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John D. Hardin" <jh...@impsec.org>
To: "SpamAssassin Users List" <us...@spamassassin.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 19:03
Subject: Delivery failure notification (fwd)


> 
> The folks over at accessintel (the server bouncing list traffic) don't
> seem to know what they are doing.
> 
> I got a bounce and tried to let them know about it, and got the below
> in return.
> 
> I hope the listadmins unsub them.
> 
> --
> John Hardin KA7OHZ    ICQ#15735746    http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/
> jhardin@impsec.org    FALaholic #11174    pgpk -a jhardin@impsec.org
> key: 0xB8732E79 - 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C  AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>  ...every time I sit down in front of a Windows machine I feel as
>  if the computer is just a place for the manufacturers to put their
>  advertising.                              -- fwadling on Y! SCOX
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 3 days until The 37th anniversary of Apollo 11 landing on the Moon
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 19:49:26 -0400
> From: nortonadmin@accessintel.com
> To: jhardin@impsec.org
> Subject: [utf-8] Delivery failure notification@
> 
> Your message with Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) (fwd) 
> could not be delivered to the following recipients:
> 
> abuse@accessintel.com, postmaster@accessintel.com
> 
> Please do not resend your original message.
> 
> Delivery attempts will continue to be made for 5  day(s).
> 
>