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Tutorial not working for me

I apologize if this is a really stupid question. I followed all
instructions on installing Tutorial, got data loaded, everything works
great until I try to query with a field name -- e.g., name:foundation. I
get zero results from this or any other query which specifies a field name.
Simple queries return results, and the field names are listed in those
results correctly. But if I query using names that I know are there and
values that I know are there, I get nothing.

I figure this must be something basic that is not right about the way
things have gotten set up, but I am completely blocked at this point. I
tried blowing it all away and restarting from scratch with no luck. Where
should I be looking for problems here? I am running this on a MacBook, OS X
10.9, latest JDK (1.8).

James

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Re: Tutorial not working for me

Posted by "Pritchett, James" <jp...@learningally.org>.
I looked at the managed-schema and it does appear that fields like "name"
were not indexed (if I'm reading this correctly):

<field name="name" type="strings"/>

Not sure if this is because some step was missed, the post command was done
incorrectly, or what. Tutorial says nothing about schemas or indexes. For
reference, here's the entire tutorial run, copied and pasted from my
terminal window with just a few ellipses to collapse the 4000+ document
loads and query results.

marplon:solr-6.2.0 jpritchett$ ./bin/solr start -e cloud -noprompt

Welcome to the SolrCloud example!

Starting up 2 Solr nodes for your example SolrCloud cluster.

Creating Solr home directory
/Users/jpritchett/solr-6.2.0/example/cloud/node1/solr
Cloning /Users/jpritchett/solr-6.2.0/example/cloud/node1 into
   /Users/jpritchett/solr-6.2.0/example/cloud/node2

Starting up Solr on port 8983 using command:
bin/solr start -cloud -p 8983 -s "example/cloud/node1/solr"

Waiting up to 30 seconds to see Solr running on port 8983 [-]
Started Solr server on port 8983 (pid=8216). Happy searching!


Starting up Solr on port 7574 using command:
bin/solr start -cloud -p 7574 -s "example/cloud/node2/solr" -z
localhost:9983

Waiting up to 30 seconds to see Solr running on port 7574 [/]
Started Solr server on port 7574 (pid=8408). Happy searching!


Connecting to ZooKeeper at localhost:9983 ...
Uploading
/Users/jpritchett/solr-6.2.0/server/solr/configsets/data_driven_schema_configs/conf
for config gettingstarted to ZooKeeper at localhost:9983

Creating new collection 'gettingstarted' using command:
http://localhost:8983/solr/admin/collections?action=CREATE&name=gettingstarted&numShards=2&replicationFactor=2&maxShardsPerNode=2&collection.configName=gettingstarted

{
  "responseHeader":{
    "status":0,
    "QTime":16272},
  "success":{
    "172.16.3.78:8983_solr":{
      "responseHeader":{
        "status":0,
        "QTime":7526},
      "core":"gettingstarted_shard1_replica2"},
    "172.16.3.78:7574_solr":{
      "responseHeader":{
        "status":0,
        "QTime":7838},
      "core":"gettingstarted_shard2_replica1"}}}

Enabling auto soft-commits with maxTime 3 secs using the Config API

POSTing request to Config API:
http://localhost:8983/solr/gettingstarted/config
{"set-property":{"updateHandler.autoSoftCommit.maxTime":"3000"}}
Successfully set-property updateHandler.autoSoftCommit.maxTime to 3000


SolrCloud example running, please visit: http://localhost:8983/solr

marplon:solr-6.2.0 jpritchett$ bin/post -c gettingstarted docs/
java -classpath /Users/jpritchett/solr-6.2.0/dist/solr-core-6.2.0.jar
-Dauto=yes -Dc=gettingstarted -Ddata=files -Drecursive=yes
org.apache.solr.util.SimplePostTool docs/
SimplePostTool version 5.0.0
Posting files to [base] url
http://localhost:8983/solr/gettingstarted/update...
Entering auto mode. File endings considered are
xml,json,jsonl,csv,pdf,doc,docx,ppt,pptx,xls,xlsx,odt,odp,ods,ott,otp,ots,rtf,htm,html,txt,log
Entering recursive mode, max depth=999, delay=0s
Indexing directory docs (3 files, depth=0)
POSTing file index.html (text/html) to [base]/extract
POSTing file quickstart.html (text/html) to [base]/extract

[etc.]

POSTing file SolrVelocityResourceLoader.html (text/html) to [base]/extract
POSTing file VelocityResponseWriter.html (text/html) to [base]/extract
4329 files indexed.
COMMITting Solr index changes to
http://localhost:8983/solr/gettingstarted/update...
Time spent: 0:06:03.224
marplon:solr-6.2.0 jpritchett$ bin/post -c gettingstarted
example/exampledocs/*.xml
java -classpath /Users/jpritchett/solr-6.2.0/dist/solr-core-6.2.0.jar
-Dauto=yes -Dc=gettingstarted -Ddata=files
org.apache.solr.util.SimplePostTool example/exampledocs/gb18030-example.xml
example/exampledocs/hd.xml example/exampledocs/ipod_other.xml
example/exampledocs/ipod_video.xml example/exampledocs/manufacturers.xml
example/exampledocs/mem.xml example/exampledocs/money.xml
example/exampledocs/monitor.xml example/exampledocs/monitor2.xml
example/exampledocs/mp500.xml example/exampledocs/sd500.xml
example/exampledocs/solr.xml example/exampledocs/utf8-example.xml
example/exampledocs/vidcard.xml
SimplePostTool version 5.0.0
Posting files to [base] url
http://localhost:8983/solr/gettingstarted/update...
Entering auto mode. File endings considered are
xml,json,jsonl,csv,pdf,doc,docx,ppt,pptx,xls,xlsx,odt,odp,ods,ott,otp,ots,rtf,htm,html,txt,log
POSTing file gb18030-example.xml (application/xml) to [base]
POSTing file hd.xml (application/xml) to [base]

[etc.]

14 files indexed.
COMMITting Solr index changes to
http://localhost:8983/solr/gettingstarted/update...
Time spent: 0:00:07.578
marplon:solr-6.2.0 jpritchett$ bin/post -c gettingstarted
example/exampledocs/books.json
java -classpath /Users/jpritchett/solr-6.2.0/dist/solr-core-6.2.0.jar
-Dauto=yes -Dc=gettingstarted -Ddata=files
org.apache.solr.util.SimplePostTool example/exampledocs/books.json
SimplePostTool version 5.0.0
Posting files to [base] url
http://localhost:8983/solr/gettingstarted/update...
Entering auto mode. File endings considered are
xml,json,jsonl,csv,pdf,doc,docx,ppt,pptx,xls,xlsx,odt,odp,ods,ott,otp,ots,rtf,htm,html,txt,log
POSTing file books.json (application/json) to [base]/json/docs
1 files indexed.
COMMITting Solr index changes to
http://localhost:8983/solr/gettingstarted/update...
Time spent: 0:00:01.782
marplon:solr-6.2.0 jpritchett$ bin/post -c gettingstarted
example/exampledocs/books.csv
java -classpath /Users/jpritchett/solr-6.2.0/dist/solr-core-6.2.0.jar
-Dauto=yes -Dc=gettingstarted -Ddata=files
org.apache.solr.util.SimplePostTool example/exampledocs/books.csv
SimplePostTool version 5.0.0
Posting files to [base] url
http://localhost:8983/solr/gettingstarted/update...
Entering auto mode. File endings considered are
xml,json,jsonl,csv,pdf,doc,docx,ppt,pptx,xls,xlsx,odt,odp,ods,ott,otp,ots,rtf,htm,html,txt,log
POSTing file books.csv (text/csv) to [base]
1 files indexed.
COMMITting Solr index changes to
http://localhost:8983/solr/gettingstarted/update...
Time spent: 0:00:00.204
marplon:solr-6.2.0 jpritchett$ curl "
http://localhost:8983/solr/gettingstarted/select?wt=json&indent=true&q=foundation
"
{
  "responseHeader":{
    "zkConnected":true,
    "status":0,
    "QTime":264,
    "params":{
      "q":"foundation",
      "indent":"true",
      "wt":"json"}},
  "response":{"numFound":4156,"start":0,"maxScore":0.098080166,"docs":[
      {
        "id":"0553293354",
        "cat":["book"],
        "name":["Foundation"],
        "price":[7.99],
        "inStock":[false],
        "author":["Isaac Asimov"],
        "series_t":["Foundation Novels"],
        "sequence_i":1,
        "genre_s":"scifi",
        "_version_":1545646368061652992},

        [etc.]]
  }}
marplon:solr-6.2.0 jpritchett$ curl "
http://localhost:8983/solr/gettingstarted/select?wt=json&indent=true&q=name:foundation
"
{
  "responseHeader":{
    "zkConnected":true,
    "status":0,
    "QTime":47,
    "params":{
      "q":"name:foundation",
      "indent":"true",
      "wt":"json"}},
  "response":{"numFound":0,"start":0,"maxScore":0.0,"docs":[]
  }}
marplon:solr-6.2.0 jpritchett$


On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Erick Erickson <er...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> My bet:
> the fields (look in managed_schema or, possibly schema.xml)
> has stored="true" and indexed="false" set for the fields
> in question.
>
> Pretty much everyone takes a few passes before this really
> makes sense. "stored" means you see the results returned,
> "indexed" must be true before you can search on something.
>
> Second possibility: You've somehow indexed fields as
> "string" type rather than one of the text based fieldTypes.
> "string" types are not tokenized, thus a field with
> "My dog has fleas" will fail to find "My". It'll even not match
> "my dog has fleas" (note capital "M").
>
> The admin UI>>select core>>analysis page will show you
> lots of this kind of detail, although I admit it takes a bit to
> understand all the info (do un-check the "verbose" button
> for the nonce).
>
> Now, all that aside, please show us the field definition for
> one of the fields in question and, as John mentions, the exact
> query (I'd also ass &debugQuery=true to the results).
>
> Saying you followed the exact instructions somewhere isn't
> really helpful. It's likely that there's something innocent-seeming
> that was done differently. Giving the information asked for
> will help us diagnose what's happening and, perhaps,
> improve the docs if we can understand the mis-match.
>
> Best,
> Erick
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Pritchett, James
> <jp...@learningally.org> wrote:
> > I am following the exact instructions in the tutorial: copy and pasting
> all
> > commands & queries from the tutorial:
> > https://lucene.apache.org/solr/quickstart.html. Where it breaks down is
> > this one:
> >
> > http://localhost:8983/solr/gettingstarted/select?wt=json&
> indent=true&q=name:foundation
> >
> > This returns no results. Tried in the web admin view as well, also tried
> > various field:value combinations to no avail. Clearly something didn't
> get
> > configured correctly, but I saw no error messages when running all the
> data
> > loads, etc. given in the tutorial.
> >
> > Sorry to be so clueless, but I don't really have anything to go on for
> > troubleshooting besides asking dumb questions.
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:24 AM, John Bickerstaff <
> john@johnbickerstaff.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Please share the exact query syntax?
> >>
> >> Are you using a collection you built or one of the examples?
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Pritchett, James <
> >> jpritchett@learningally.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I apologize if this is a really stupid question. I followed all
> >> > instructions on installing Tutorial, got data loaded, everything works
> >> > great until I try to query with a field name -- e.g.,
> name:foundation. I
> >> > get zero results from this or any other query which specifies a field
> >> name.
> >> > Simple queries return results, and the field names are listed in those
> >> > results correctly. But if I query using names that I know are there
> and
> >> > values that I know are there, I get nothing.
> >> >
> >> > I figure this must be something basic that is not right about the way
> >> > things have gotten set up, but I am completely blocked at this point.
> I
> >> > tried blowing it all away and restarting from scratch with no luck.
> Where
> >> > should I be looking for problems here? I am running this on a MacBook,
> >> OS X
> >> > 10.9, latest JDK (1.8).
> >> >
> >> > James
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > *James Pritchett*
> >> >
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Re: Tutorial not working for me

Posted by "Pritchett, James" <jp...@learningally.org>.
Thanks for that. I totally get how it is with complicated, open source
projects. And from experience, I realize that beginner-level documentation
is really hard, especially with these kinds of projects: by the time you
get to documentation, everybody involved is so expert in all the details
that they can't imagine approaching from a blank slate.

Thanks for the suggestions. Had to chuckle, though: one of your links (
quora.com) is the one that I started with. Step 1: "Download Solr, actually
do the tutorial ..."

Best wishes,

James

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 1:41 PM, John Bickerstaff <jo...@johnbickerstaff.com>
wrote:

> I totally empathize about the sense of wasted time.  On Solr in particular
> I pulled my hair out for months - and I had access to people who had been
> using it for over two years!!!
>
> For what it's worth - this is kind of how it goes with most open source
> projects in my experience.  It's painful - and - the more moving parts the
> open source project has, the more painful the learning curve (usually)...
>
> But - the good news is that's why this list is here - we're all trying to
> help each other, so feel free to ping the list sooner rather than later
> when you're frustrated.  My new rule is one hour of being blocked...  I
> used to wait days - but everyone on the list seems to really understand how
> frustrating it is to be stuck and people have really taken time to help me
> - so I'm less hesitant.  And, of course, I try to pay it forward by
> contributing as much as I can in the same way.
>
> On that note: I've been particularly focused on working with Solr in terms
> of being able to keep upgrading simple by just replacing and re-indexing so
> if you have questions on that space (Disaster Recovery, Zookeeper config,
> etc) I may be able to help - and if you're looking for "plan" for building
> and maintaining a simple solrCloud working model on Ubuntu VMs on
> VirtualBox, I can *really* help you.
>
> Off the top of my head - some places to start:
>
> http://yonik.com/getting-started-with-solr/
> https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-best-way-to-learn-SOLR
> http://blog.outerthoughts.com/2015/11/learning-solr-comprehensively/
> http://www.solr-start.com/
>
> I think everyone responsible for those links is also a frequent "helper" on
> this email forum.
>
> Also (and I'm aware it's a glass half-full thing which frequently irritates
> me, but I'll say it anyway).  Having run into this problem I'm willing to
> wager you'll never forget this particular quirk and if you see the problem
> in future, you'll know exactly what's wrong.  It shouldn't have been
> "wrong" with the example, but for my part at least - I've begun to think of
> stuff like this as just part of the learning curve because it happens
> nearly every time.
>
> Software is hard - complex projects like SOLR are hard.  It's why we get
> paid to do stuff like this.  I'm actually getting paid pretty well right
> now because Solr is recognized as difficult and I have (with many thanks to
> this list) become known as someone who "knows Solr"...
>
> It *could* and *should* be better, but open source is what it is as a
> result of the sum total of what everyone has contributed - and we're all
> happy to help you as best we can.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Pritchett, James <
> jpritchett@learningally.org> wrote:
>
> > Second possibility: You've somehow indexed fields as
> > "string" type rather than one of the text based fieldTypes.
> > "string" types are not tokenized, thus a field with
> > "My dog has fleas" will fail to find "My". It'll even not match
> > "my dog has fleas" (note capital "M").
> >
> > That appears to be the issue. Searching for name:Foundation indeed
> returns
> > the expected result. I will now go find some better entry point to SOLR
> > than the tutorial, which has wasted enough of my time for one day. Any
> > suggestions would be welcome.
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Erick Erickson <
> erickerickson@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > My bet:
> > > the fields (look in managed_schema or, possibly schema.xml)
> > > has stored="true" and indexed="false" set for the fields
> > > in question.
> > >
> > > Pretty much everyone takes a few passes before this really
> > > makes sense. "stored" means you see the results returned,
> > > "indexed" must be true before you can search on something.
> > >
> > > Second possibility: You've somehow indexed fields as
> > > "string" type rather than one of the text based fieldTypes.
> > > "string" types are not tokenized, thus a field with
> > > "My dog has fleas" will fail to find "My". It'll even not match
> > > "my dog has fleas" (note capital "M").
> > >
> > > The admin UI>>select core>>analysis page will show you
> > > lots of this kind of detail, although I admit it takes a bit to
> > > understand all the info (do un-check the "verbose" button
> > > for the nonce).
> > >
> > > Now, all that aside, please show us the field definition for
> > > one of the fields in question and, as John mentions, the exact
> > > query (I'd also ass &debugQuery=true to the results).
> > >
> > > Saying you followed the exact instructions somewhere isn't
> > > really helpful. It's likely that there's something innocent-seeming
> > > that was done differently. Giving the information asked for
> > > will help us diagnose what's happening and, perhaps,
> > > improve the docs if we can understand the mis-match.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Erick
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Pritchett, James
> > > <jp...@learningally.org> wrote:
> > > > I am following the exact instructions in the tutorial: copy and
> pasting
> > > all
> > > > commands & queries from the tutorial:
> > > > https://lucene.apache.org/solr/quickstart.html. Where it breaks down
> > is
> > > > this one:
> > > >
> > > > http://localhost:8983/solr/gettingstarted/select?wt=json&
> > > indent=true&q=name:foundation
> > > >
> > > > This returns no results. Tried in the web admin view as well, also
> > tried
> > > > various field:value combinations to no avail. Clearly something
> didn't
> > > get
> > > > configured correctly, but I saw no error messages when running all
> the
> > > data
> > > > loads, etc. given in the tutorial.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry to be so clueless, but I don't really have anything to go on
> for
> > > > troubleshooting besides asking dumb questions.
> > > >
> > > > James
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:24 AM, John Bickerstaff <
> > > john@johnbickerstaff.com
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Please share the exact query syntax?
> > > >>
> > > >> Are you using a collection you built or one of the examples?
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Pritchett, James <
> > > >> jpritchett@learningally.org> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > I apologize if this is a really stupid question. I followed all
> > > >> > instructions on installing Tutorial, got data loaded, everything
> > works
> > > >> > great until I try to query with a field name -- e.g.,
> > > name:foundation. I
> > > >> > get zero results from this or any other query which specifies a
> > field
> > > >> name.
> > > >> > Simple queries return results, and the field names are listed in
> > those
> > > >> > results correctly. But if I query using names that I know are
> there
> > > and
> > > >> > values that I know are there, I get nothing.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I figure this must be something basic that is not right about the
> > way
> > > >> > things have gotten set up, but I am completely blocked at this
> > point.
> > > I
> > > >> > tried blowing it all away and restarting from scratch with no
> luck.
> > > Where
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Re: Tutorial not working for me

Posted by John Bickerstaff <jo...@johnbickerstaff.com>.
I totally empathize about the sense of wasted time.  On Solr in particular
I pulled my hair out for months - and I had access to people who had been
using it for over two years!!!

For what it's worth - this is kind of how it goes with most open source
projects in my experience.  It's painful - and - the more moving parts the
open source project has, the more painful the learning curve (usually)...

But - the good news is that's why this list is here - we're all trying to
help each other, so feel free to ping the list sooner rather than later
when you're frustrated.  My new rule is one hour of being blocked...  I
used to wait days - but everyone on the list seems to really understand how
frustrating it is to be stuck and people have really taken time to help me
- so I'm less hesitant.  And, of course, I try to pay it forward by
contributing as much as I can in the same way.

On that note: I've been particularly focused on working with Solr in terms
of being able to keep upgrading simple by just replacing and re-indexing so
if you have questions on that space (Disaster Recovery, Zookeeper config,
etc) I may be able to help - and if you're looking for "plan" for building
and maintaining a simple solrCloud working model on Ubuntu VMs on
VirtualBox, I can *really* help you.

Off the top of my head - some places to start:

http://yonik.com/getting-started-with-solr/
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-best-way-to-learn-SOLR
http://blog.outerthoughts.com/2015/11/learning-solr-comprehensively/
http://www.solr-start.com/

I think everyone responsible for those links is also a frequent "helper" on
this email forum.

Also (and I'm aware it's a glass half-full thing which frequently irritates
me, but I'll say it anyway).  Having run into this problem I'm willing to
wager you'll never forget this particular quirk and if you see the problem
in future, you'll know exactly what's wrong.  It shouldn't have been
"wrong" with the example, but for my part at least - I've begun to think of
stuff like this as just part of the learning curve because it happens
nearly every time.

Software is hard - complex projects like SOLR are hard.  It's why we get
paid to do stuff like this.  I'm actually getting paid pretty well right
now because Solr is recognized as difficult and I have (with many thanks to
this list) become known as someone who "knows Solr"...

It *could* and *should* be better, but open source is what it is as a
result of the sum total of what everyone has contributed - and we're all
happy to help you as best we can.



On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Pritchett, James <
jpritchett@learningally.org> wrote:

> Second possibility: You've somehow indexed fields as
> "string" type rather than one of the text based fieldTypes.
> "string" types are not tokenized, thus a field with
> "My dog has fleas" will fail to find "My". It'll even not match
> "my dog has fleas" (note capital "M").
>
> That appears to be the issue. Searching for name:Foundation indeed returns
> the expected result. I will now go find some better entry point to SOLR
> than the tutorial, which has wasted enough of my time for one day. Any
> suggestions would be welcome.
>
> James
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Erick Erickson <er...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > My bet:
> > the fields (look in managed_schema or, possibly schema.xml)
> > has stored="true" and indexed="false" set for the fields
> > in question.
> >
> > Pretty much everyone takes a few passes before this really
> > makes sense. "stored" means you see the results returned,
> > "indexed" must be true before you can search on something.
> >
> > Second possibility: You've somehow indexed fields as
> > "string" type rather than one of the text based fieldTypes.
> > "string" types are not tokenized, thus a field with
> > "My dog has fleas" will fail to find "My". It'll even not match
> > "my dog has fleas" (note capital "M").
> >
> > The admin UI>>select core>>analysis page will show you
> > lots of this kind of detail, although I admit it takes a bit to
> > understand all the info (do un-check the "verbose" button
> > for the nonce).
> >
> > Now, all that aside, please show us the field definition for
> > one of the fields in question and, as John mentions, the exact
> > query (I'd also ass &debugQuery=true to the results).
> >
> > Saying you followed the exact instructions somewhere isn't
> > really helpful. It's likely that there's something innocent-seeming
> > that was done differently. Giving the information asked for
> > will help us diagnose what's happening and, perhaps,
> > improve the docs if we can understand the mis-match.
> >
> > Best,
> > Erick
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Pritchett, James
> > <jp...@learningally.org> wrote:
> > > I am following the exact instructions in the tutorial: copy and pasting
> > all
> > > commands & queries from the tutorial:
> > > https://lucene.apache.org/solr/quickstart.html. Where it breaks down
> is
> > > this one:
> > >
> > > http://localhost:8983/solr/gettingstarted/select?wt=json&
> > indent=true&q=name:foundation
> > >
> > > This returns no results. Tried in the web admin view as well, also
> tried
> > > various field:value combinations to no avail. Clearly something didn't
> > get
> > > configured correctly, but I saw no error messages when running all the
> > data
> > > loads, etc. given in the tutorial.
> > >
> > > Sorry to be so clueless, but I don't really have anything to go on for
> > > troubleshooting besides asking dumb questions.
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:24 AM, John Bickerstaff <
> > john@johnbickerstaff.com
> > >> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Please share the exact query syntax?
> > >>
> > >> Are you using a collection you built or one of the examples?
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Pritchett, James <
> > >> jpritchett@learningally.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I apologize if this is a really stupid question. I followed all
> > >> > instructions on installing Tutorial, got data loaded, everything
> works
> > >> > great until I try to query with a field name -- e.g.,
> > name:foundation. I
> > >> > get zero results from this or any other query which specifies a
> field
> > >> name.
> > >> > Simple queries return results, and the field names are listed in
> those
> > >> > results correctly. But if I query using names that I know are there
> > and
> > >> > values that I know are there, I get nothing.
> > >> >
> > >> > I figure this must be something basic that is not right about the
> way
> > >> > things have gotten set up, but I am completely blocked at this
> point.
> > I
> > >> > tried blowing it all away and restarting from scratch with no luck.
> > Where
> > >> > should I be looking for problems here? I am running this on a
> MacBook,
> > >> OS X
> > >> > 10.9, latest JDK (1.8).
> > >> >
> > >> > James
> > >> >
> > >> > --
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> > >> >
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Re: Tutorial not working for me

Posted by "Pritchett, James" <jp...@learningally.org>.
Second possibility: You've somehow indexed fields as
"string" type rather than one of the text based fieldTypes.
"string" types are not tokenized, thus a field with
"My dog has fleas" will fail to find "My". It'll even not match
"my dog has fleas" (note capital "M").

That appears to be the issue. Searching for name:Foundation indeed returns
the expected result. I will now go find some better entry point to SOLR
than the tutorial, which has wasted enough of my time for one day. Any
suggestions would be welcome.

James

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Erick Erickson <er...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> My bet:
> the fields (look in managed_schema or, possibly schema.xml)
> has stored="true" and indexed="false" set for the fields
> in question.
>
> Pretty much everyone takes a few passes before this really
> makes sense. "stored" means you see the results returned,
> "indexed" must be true before you can search on something.
>
> Second possibility: You've somehow indexed fields as
> "string" type rather than one of the text based fieldTypes.
> "string" types are not tokenized, thus a field with
> "My dog has fleas" will fail to find "My". It'll even not match
> "my dog has fleas" (note capital "M").
>
> The admin UI>>select core>>analysis page will show you
> lots of this kind of detail, although I admit it takes a bit to
> understand all the info (do un-check the "verbose" button
> for the nonce).
>
> Now, all that aside, please show us the field definition for
> one of the fields in question and, as John mentions, the exact
> query (I'd also ass &debugQuery=true to the results).
>
> Saying you followed the exact instructions somewhere isn't
> really helpful. It's likely that there's something innocent-seeming
> that was done differently. Giving the information asked for
> will help us diagnose what's happening and, perhaps,
> improve the docs if we can understand the mis-match.
>
> Best,
> Erick
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Pritchett, James
> <jp...@learningally.org> wrote:
> > I am following the exact instructions in the tutorial: copy and pasting
> all
> > commands & queries from the tutorial:
> > https://lucene.apache.org/solr/quickstart.html. Where it breaks down is
> > this one:
> >
> > http://localhost:8983/solr/gettingstarted/select?wt=json&
> indent=true&q=name:foundation
> >
> > This returns no results. Tried in the web admin view as well, also tried
> > various field:value combinations to no avail. Clearly something didn't
> get
> > configured correctly, but I saw no error messages when running all the
> data
> > loads, etc. given in the tutorial.
> >
> > Sorry to be so clueless, but I don't really have anything to go on for
> > troubleshooting besides asking dumb questions.
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:24 AM, John Bickerstaff <
> john@johnbickerstaff.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Please share the exact query syntax?
> >>
> >> Are you using a collection you built or one of the examples?
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Pritchett, James <
> >> jpritchett@learningally.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I apologize if this is a really stupid question. I followed all
> >> > instructions on installing Tutorial, got data loaded, everything works
> >> > great until I try to query with a field name -- e.g.,
> name:foundation. I
> >> > get zero results from this or any other query which specifies a field
> >> name.
> >> > Simple queries return results, and the field names are listed in those
> >> > results correctly. But if I query using names that I know are there
> and
> >> > values that I know are there, I get nothing.
> >> >
> >> > I figure this must be something basic that is not right about the way
> >> > things have gotten set up, but I am completely blocked at this point.
> I
> >> > tried blowing it all away and restarting from scratch with no luck.
> Where
> >> > should I be looking for problems here? I am running this on a MacBook,
> >> OS X
> >> > 10.9, latest JDK (1.8).
> >> >
> >> > James
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > *James Pritchett*
> >> >
> >> > Leader, Process Redesign and Analysis
> >> >
> >> > ______________________________
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > *Learning Ally™*Together It’s Possible
> >> > 20 Roszel Road | Princeton, NJ 08540 | Office: 609.243.7608
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Re: Tutorial not working for me

Posted by Erick Erickson <er...@gmail.com>.
My bet:
the fields (look in managed_schema or, possibly schema.xml)
has stored="true" and indexed="false" set for the fields
in question.

Pretty much everyone takes a few passes before this really
makes sense. "stored" means you see the results returned,
"indexed" must be true before you can search on something.

Second possibility: You've somehow indexed fields as
"string" type rather than one of the text based fieldTypes.
"string" types are not tokenized, thus a field with
"My dog has fleas" will fail to find "My". It'll even not match
"my dog has fleas" (note capital "M").

The admin UI>>select core>>analysis page will show you
lots of this kind of detail, although I admit it takes a bit to
understand all the info (do un-check the "verbose" button
for the nonce).

Now, all that aside, please show us the field definition for
one of the fields in question and, as John mentions, the exact
query (I'd also ass &debugQuery=true to the results).

Saying you followed the exact instructions somewhere isn't
really helpful. It's likely that there's something innocent-seeming
that was done differently. Giving the information asked for
will help us diagnose what's happening and, perhaps,
improve the docs if we can understand the mis-match.

Best,
Erick

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Pritchett, James
<jp...@learningally.org> wrote:
> I am following the exact instructions in the tutorial: copy and pasting all
> commands & queries from the tutorial:
> https://lucene.apache.org/solr/quickstart.html. Where it breaks down is
> this one:
>
> http://localhost:8983/solr/gettingstarted/select?wt=json&indent=true&q=name:foundation
>
> This returns no results. Tried in the web admin view as well, also tried
> various field:value combinations to no avail. Clearly something didn't get
> configured correctly, but I saw no error messages when running all the data
> loads, etc. given in the tutorial.
>
> Sorry to be so clueless, but I don't really have anything to go on for
> troubleshooting besides asking dumb questions.
>
> James
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:24 AM, John Bickerstaff <john@johnbickerstaff.com
>> wrote:
>
>> Please share the exact query syntax?
>>
>> Are you using a collection you built or one of the examples?
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Pritchett, James <
>> jpritchett@learningally.org> wrote:
>>
>> > I apologize if this is a really stupid question. I followed all
>> > instructions on installing Tutorial, got data loaded, everything works
>> > great until I try to query with a field name -- e.g., name:foundation. I
>> > get zero results from this or any other query which specifies a field
>> name.
>> > Simple queries return results, and the field names are listed in those
>> > results correctly. But if I query using names that I know are there and
>> > values that I know are there, I get nothing.
>> >
>> > I figure this must be something basic that is not right about the way
>> > things have gotten set up, but I am completely blocked at this point. I
>> > tried blowing it all away and restarting from scratch with no luck. Where
>> > should I be looking for problems here? I am running this on a MacBook,
>> OS X
>> > 10.9, latest JDK (1.8).
>> >
>> > James
>> >
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Re: Tutorial not working for me

Posted by "Pritchett, James" <jp...@learningally.org>.
I am following the exact instructions in the tutorial: copy and pasting all
commands & queries from the tutorial:
https://lucene.apache.org/solr/quickstart.html. Where it breaks down is
this one:

http://localhost:8983/solr/gettingstarted/select?wt=json&indent=true&q=name:foundation

This returns no results. Tried in the web admin view as well, also tried
various field:value combinations to no avail. Clearly something didn't get
configured correctly, but I saw no error messages when running all the data
loads, etc. given in the tutorial.

Sorry to be so clueless, but I don't really have anything to go on for
troubleshooting besides asking dumb questions.

James

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:24 AM, John Bickerstaff <john@johnbickerstaff.com
> wrote:

> Please share the exact query syntax?
>
> Are you using a collection you built or one of the examples?
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Pritchett, James <
> jpritchett@learningally.org> wrote:
>
> > I apologize if this is a really stupid question. I followed all
> > instructions on installing Tutorial, got data loaded, everything works
> > great until I try to query with a field name -- e.g., name:foundation. I
> > get zero results from this or any other query which specifies a field
> name.
> > Simple queries return results, and the field names are listed in those
> > results correctly. But if I query using names that I know are there and
> > values that I know are there, I get nothing.
> >
> > I figure this must be something basic that is not right about the way
> > things have gotten set up, but I am completely blocked at this point. I
> > tried blowing it all away and restarting from scratch with no luck. Where
> > should I be looking for problems here? I am running this on a MacBook,
> OS X
> > 10.9, latest JDK (1.8).
> >
> > James
> >
> > --
> >
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Re: Tutorial not working for me

Posted by John Bickerstaff <jo...@johnbickerstaff.com>.
Please share the exact query syntax?

Are you using a collection you built or one of the examples?

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Pritchett, James <
jpritchett@learningally.org> wrote:

> I apologize if this is a really stupid question. I followed all
> instructions on installing Tutorial, got data loaded, everything works
> great until I try to query with a field name -- e.g., name:foundation. I
> get zero results from this or any other query which specifies a field name.
> Simple queries return results, and the field names are listed in those
> results correctly. But if I query using names that I know are there and
> values that I know are there, I get nothing.
>
> I figure this must be something basic that is not right about the way
> things have gotten set up, but I am completely blocked at this point. I
> tried blowing it all away and restarting from scratch with no luck. Where
> should I be looking for problems here? I am running this on a MacBook, OS X
> 10.9, latest JDK (1.8).
>
> James
>
> --
>
>
> *James Pritchett*
>
> Leader, Process Redesign and Analysis
>
> ______________________________
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Re: Tutorial not working for me

Posted by Alexandre Rafalovitch <ar...@gmail.com>.
And bringing shipped and website version in sync I assume. Ok, I'll be
happy to watch whatever issue that happens in and proof-read when it
is done.

Regards,
   Alex.
----
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http://www.solr-start.com/


On 20 September 2016 at 00:16, Steve Rowe <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For now, I was thinking of making it reflect current reality as much as possible, without changing coverage.
>
> --
> Steve
> www.lucidworks.com
>
>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Alexandre Rafalovitch <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Whatever works. If JIRA, SOLR-6871 is probably a reasonable place.
>> Depends on the scope of "updating" you want to do.
>>
>> Regards,
>>   Alex.
>> ----
>> Newsletter and resources for Solr beginners and intermediates:
>> http://www.solr-start.com/
>>
>>
>> On 20 September 2016 at 00:02, Steve Rowe <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Alex,
>>>
>>> Sure - I assume you mean independently from SOLR-9526 and SOLR-6871?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Steve
>>> www.lucidworks.com
>>>
>>>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Alexandre Rafalovitch <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 19 September 2016 at 23:37, Steve Rowe <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I’m going to start working on updating the quick start tutorial - nobody has updated it since 5.0 AFAICT.
>>>>
>>>> Is that something that's worth discussing in a group/JIRA/etc?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>  Alex.
>>>>
>>>> ----
>>>> Newsletter and resources for Solr beginners and intermediates:
>>>> http://www.solr-start.com/
>>>
>

Re: Tutorial not working for me

Posted by Steve Rowe <sa...@gmail.com>.
For now, I was thinking of making it reflect current reality as much as possible, without changing coverage.

--
Steve
www.lucidworks.com

> On Sep 19, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Alexandre Rafalovitch <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Whatever works. If JIRA, SOLR-6871 is probably a reasonable place.
> Depends on the scope of "updating" you want to do.
> 
> Regards,
>   Alex.
> ----
> Newsletter and resources for Solr beginners and intermediates:
> http://www.solr-start.com/
> 
> 
> On 20 September 2016 at 00:02, Steve Rowe <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Alex,
>> 
>> Sure - I assume you mean independently from SOLR-9526 and SOLR-6871?
>> 
>> --
>> Steve
>> www.lucidworks.com
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Alexandre Rafalovitch <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 19 September 2016 at 23:37, Steve Rowe <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I’m going to start working on updating the quick start tutorial - nobody has updated it since 5.0 AFAICT.
>>> 
>>> Is that something that's worth discussing in a group/JIRA/etc?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>>  Alex.
>>> 
>>> ----
>>> Newsletter and resources for Solr beginners and intermediates:
>>> http://www.solr-start.com/
>> 


Re: Tutorial not working for me

Posted by Alexandre Rafalovitch <ar...@gmail.com>.
Whatever works. If JIRA, SOLR-6871 is probably a reasonable place.
Depends on the scope of "updating" you want to do.

Regards,
   Alex.
----
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http://www.solr-start.com/


On 20 September 2016 at 00:02, Steve Rowe <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> Sure - I assume you mean independently from SOLR-9526 and SOLR-6871?
>
> --
> Steve
> www.lucidworks.com
>
>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Alexandre Rafalovitch <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 19 September 2016 at 23:37, Steve Rowe <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I’m going to start working on updating the quick start tutorial - nobody has updated it since 5.0 AFAICT.
>>
>> Is that something that's worth discussing in a group/JIRA/etc?
>>
>> Regards,
>>   Alex.
>>
>> ----
>> Newsletter and resources for Solr beginners and intermediates:
>> http://www.solr-start.com/
>

Re: Tutorial not working for me

Posted by Steve Rowe <sa...@gmail.com>.
Hi Alex,

Sure - I assume you mean independently from SOLR-9526 and SOLR-6871?

--
Steve
www.lucidworks.com

> On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Alexandre Rafalovitch <ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 19 September 2016 at 23:37, Steve Rowe <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I’m going to start working on updating the quick start tutorial - nobody has updated it since 5.0 AFAICT.
> 
> Is that something that's worth discussing in a group/JIRA/etc?
> 
> Regards,
>   Alex.
> 
> ----
> Newsletter and resources for Solr beginners and intermediates:
> http://www.solr-start.com/


Re: Tutorial not working for me

Posted by Alexandre Rafalovitch <ar...@gmail.com>.
On 19 September 2016 at 23:37, Steve Rowe <sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I’m going to start working on updating the quick start tutorial - nobody has updated it since 5.0 AFAICT.

Is that something that's worth discussing in a group/JIRA/etc?

Regards,
   Alex.

----
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Re: Tutorial not working for me

Posted by Steve Rowe <sa...@gmail.com>.
In the data driven configset, autoguessing text fields as the “strings" field type is intended to enable faceting.  The catch-all _text_ field enables search on all fields, but this may not be a good alternative to fielded search. 

I’m going to start working on updating the quick start tutorial - nobody has updated it since 5.0 AFAICT.

--
Steve
www.lucidworks.com

> On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Chris Hostetter <ho...@fucit.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> : I apologize if this is a really stupid question. I followed all
> 
> It's not a stupid question, the tutorial is completley broken -- and for 
> that matter, in my opinion, the data_driven_schema_configs used by that 
> tutorial (and recommended for new users) are largely useless for the same 
> underlying reason...
> 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-9526
> 
> Thank you very much for asking about this - hopefully the folks who 
> understand this more (and don't share my opinion that the entire concept 
> of data_driven schemas are a terrible idea) can chime in and explain WTF 
> is going on here)
> 
> 
> -Hoss
> http://www.lucidworks.com/


Re: Tutorial not working for me

Posted by "Pritchett, James" <jp...@learningally.org>.
>
>
>
> From your perspective as a new user, did you find it
> anoying/frustrating/confusing that the README.txt in the films example
> required/instructed you to first create a handful of fields using a curl
> command to hit the Schema API before you could index any of the documents?
>
> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=lucene-solr.git;a=
> blob;f=solr/example/films/README.txt
>
>
> N
​o, I didn't find that to be a problem. In fact, in my view that's not a
bug, that's a feature -- at least from my very limited experience, it seems
like that kind of schema setup is probably pretty standard stuff when
building a SOLR core, and so including it in the example teaches you
something useful that you'll need to do pretty much right off the bat. I
don't think that I did it via curl, though ... I must have used the admin
interface, which was just simpler than copying and pasting that
hairy-looking, multiline command into a terminal. If you used the films
example as the basis for a tutorial and wrote it up in pretty HTML, you
could include screenshots, etc. That would make it completely painless.

James

Re: Tutorial not working for me

Posted by Chris Hostetter <ho...@fucit.org>.
: FWIW, my next step was to work with the movie example file, which worked
: perfectly and was a much, much better "getting started" intro. You could do
: worse than to build a new tutorial/getting started from this example.
: Dataset is way more fun, too -- a quality that should never be
: underestimated in a tutorial.

Thanks for that feedback James - I have one followup question if you don't 
mind...

From your perspective as a new user, did you find it 
anoying/frustrating/confusing that the README.txt in the films example 
required/instructed you to first create a handful of fields using a curl 
command to hit the Schema API before you could index any of the documents?

https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=lucene-solr.git;a=blob;f=solr/example/films/README.txt


-Hoss
http://www.lucidworks.com/

Re: Tutorial not working for me

Posted by "Pritchett, James" <jp...@learningally.org>.
FWIW, my next step was to work with the movie example file, which worked
perfectly and was a much, much better "getting started" intro. You could do
worse than to build a new tutorial/getting started from this example.
Dataset is way more fun, too -- a quality that should never be
underestimated in a tutorial.

James

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 8:34 PM, Chris Hostetter <ho...@fucit.org>
wrote:

>
> : I apologize if this is a really stupid question. I followed all
>
> It's not a stupid question, the tutorial is completley broken -- and for
> that matter, in my opinion, the data_driven_schema_configs used by that
> tutorial (and recommended for new users) are largely useless for the same
> underlying reason...
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-9526
>
> Thank you very much for asking about this - hopefully the folks who
> understand this more (and don't share my opinion that the entire concept
> of data_driven schemas are a terrible idea) can chime in and explain WTF
> is going on here)
>
>
> -Hoss
> http://www.lucidworks.com/
>



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Re: Tutorial not working for me

Posted by Chris Hostetter <ho...@fucit.org>.
: I apologize if this is a really stupid question. I followed all

It's not a stupid question, the tutorial is completley broken -- and for 
that matter, in my opinion, the data_driven_schema_configs used by that 
tutorial (and recommended for new users) are largely useless for the same 
underlying reason...

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-9526

Thank you very much for asking about this - hopefully the folks who 
understand this more (and don't share my opinion that the entire concept 
of data_driven schemas are a terrible idea) can chime in and explain WTF 
is going on here)


-Hoss
http://www.lucidworks.com/

Re: Tutorial not working for me

Posted by John Bickerstaff <jo...@johnbickerstaff.com>.
what happens if you issue this?  Do you see the field in question in the
results?

http://localhost:8983/solr/gettingstarted/select?wt=json&indent=true&q=
<http://localhost:8983/solr/gettingstarted/select?wt=json&indent=true&q=name:foundation>
*:*

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Alexandre Rafalovitch <ar...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> If your fields are of type string, you have to match them exactly.
>
> But the general queries are probably going against _text_ or similar which
> copyFields context of all other fields without storing but tokenize with
> its own text rules.
>
> Check df parameter in solrconfig.xml or params.json.
>
> Regards,
>    Alex
>
> On 16 Sep 2016 10:06 PM, "Pritchett, James" <jp...@learningally.org>
> wrote:
>
> I apologize if this is a really stupid question. I followed all
> instructions on installing Tutorial, got data loaded, everything works
> great until I try to query with a field name -- e.g., name:foundation. I
> get zero results from this or any other query which specifies a field name.
> Simple queries return results, and the field names are listed in those
> results correctly. But if I query using names that I know are there and
> values that I know are there, I get nothing.
>
> I figure this must be something basic that is not right about the way
> things have gotten set up, but I am completely blocked at this point. I
> tried blowing it all away and restarting from scratch with no luck. Where
> should I be looking for problems here? I am running this on a MacBook, OS X
> 10.9, latest JDK (1.8).
>
> James
>
> --
>
>
> *James Pritchett*
>
> Leader, Process Redesign and Analysis
>
> ______________________________
>
>
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Re: Tutorial not working for me

Posted by Alexandre Rafalovitch <ar...@gmail.com>.
If your fields are of type string, you have to match them exactly.

But the general queries are probably going against _text_ or similar which
copyFields context of all other fields without storing but tokenize with
its own text rules.

Check df parameter in solrconfig.xml or params.json.

Regards,
   Alex

On 16 Sep 2016 10:06 PM, "Pritchett, James" <jp...@learningally.org>
wrote:

I apologize if this is a really stupid question. I followed all
instructions on installing Tutorial, got data loaded, everything works
great until I try to query with a field name -- e.g., name:foundation. I
get zero results from this or any other query which specifies a field name.
Simple queries return results, and the field names are listed in those
results correctly. But if I query using names that I know are there and
values that I know are there, I get nothing.

I figure this must be something basic that is not right about the way
things have gotten set up, but I am completely blocked at this point. I
tried blowing it all away and restarting from scratch with no luck. Where
should I be looking for problems here? I am running this on a MacBook, OS X
10.9, latest JDK (1.8).

James

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