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Posted to legal-discuss@apache.org by Omar Mefire <om...@gmail.com> on 2016/05/05 22:09:36 UTC

Re: Collecting Telemetry data for Apache Cordova project

I have recently started working on the telemetry inclusion into Cordova and
would like to request help from Apache Legal with drafting the privacy
notice.

Here is the detailed telemetry proposal:
- https://github.com/cordova/cordova-discuss/pull/43
- https://github.com/cordova/cordova-discuss/pull/43/files

Omar Mefire,

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Parashuram <n....@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree that there should be an opt-out method.
>
>
> Parashuram
> http://nparashuram.com
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Tommy Williams <to...@devgeeks.org> wrote:
>
>> "From my non-lawyer point of view, what's important is to make sure
>> users are informed of what's happening, and can opt out of it.”
>>
>> This x 1000
>>
>> As a staunch privacy advocate, I would be very uncomfortable collecting
>> data without allowing users to opt out.
>>
>> - tommy
>>
>>
>> On 3 November 2015 at 09:08:54, Parashuram (n.parashuram@gmail.com)
>> wrote:
>>
>> David,
>>
>> Would you happen to have links to discussions of threads in the Flex or
>> CloudStack projects where this is discussed ?
>>
>> I think we should atleast have a privacy policy, and let users opt out of
>> collecting data. The main purpose of this data is to understand the places
>> where users experience most errors, or the commands that are most unused in
>> our Cordova tooling. Cordova has a NodeJS based command line interface and
>> this is where the data would be collected. We have not yet decided on where
>> this data is stored or who controls it.
>>
>> Before we looked into those questions, I first wanted to check if it was
>> even ok for us to collect this information. Now that I understand that
>> Apache does not have policies against collecting data, I think that it
>> would make sense for Cordova committers to get back and answer the
>> questions like
>> - where the data lives - I am guessing this would be some Apache server
>> - who can access this data - I think at the minimum, the apache
>> committers and PMC would be able to access the data. We should discuss this
>> in the community and see if it makes sense to let everyone be able to read
>> this data, since this is aggregated and anonymous anyway.
>> - Who controls the data - this should be the committers and the PMC, but
>> will also be discussed in the community.
>>
>>
>> Parashuram
>> http://nparashuram.com
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:36 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
>>
>>> The Flex folks connect some (very limited) telemetry.
>>> The CloudStack folks are discussing it and working on it.
>>> But I am unaware of any data collection policies from a foundation
>>> perspective
>>>
>>> My personal questions would be:
>>> * Where does the data live / how is it collected
>>> * Who has access to it
>>> * Who controls the data
>>>
>>> --David
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > The Apache Cordova project currently has a command line interface that
>>> our
>>> > users use to create and developer multi-platform mobile applications.
>>> The
>>> > Apache Cordova community has been working on many features to make the
>>> user
>>> > experience better. Currently however, we have no way of knowing which
>>> > features we implement are used by users and which are not. We also do
>>> not
>>> > have good data about the typical commands that fail or the situations
>>> under
>>> > which they fail.
>>> >
>>> > To make better informed decisions, one proposal that the community was
>>> > discussing was about adding some sort of telemetry that reports back
>>> data.
>>> > This data would totally anonymous, aggregated and only used for data
>>> driven
>>> > decision making when deciding on implementing new features. I wanted to
>>> > understand if there are any Apache policies around telemetry. I am not
>>> aware
>>> > of other projects that collect telemetry, and wanted some guidance on
>>> how to
>>> > approach the problem.
>>> >
>>> > It would be great if you could point us to resources, or help us
>>> understand
>>> > best practices on collecting telemetry data for an Apache project.
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Collecting Telemetry data for Apache Cordova project

Posted by Omar Mefire <om...@gmail.com>.
Here's what we ended up with:

-
https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/blob/0d5f185c45f11a46e3dc5b720e23d4b38a40779a/www/privacy/index.md

Reviews of this would be appreciated.

Otherwise, we'll use this as our privacy policy.

Thanks!

Omar Mefire,


On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Omar Mefire <om...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Alex,
> I'll use this and do something similar for Apache Cordova and submit it
> for review.
>
> Omar Mefire,
>
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> This is not an official answer, but back in 2013, Apache Flex wanted to
>> track a little bit of information about our user's use of our Installer.
>> We ended up with a footer (that isn't hidden by scrollbars) in our UI with
>> the words:
>> "Anonymous usage statistics will be collected in accordance with our
>> privacy policy."  And when you click on the words, it takes you to this
>> privacy policy page [1].
>>
>> Maybe you can use something like this.
>>
>> HTH,
>> -Alex
>>
>> [1] http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html
>>
>>
>> From: Omar Mefire <om...@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: "legal-discuss@apache.org" <le...@apache.org>
>> Date: Monday, May 9, 2016 at 10:46 AM
>> To: "private@cordova.apache.org" <pr...@cordova.apache.org>, "
>> legal-discuss@apache.org" <le...@apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: Collecting Telemetry data for Apache Cordova project
>>
>> ping ...
>> Any updates regarding this ?
>>
>> The development of this feature is almost complete and the missing part
>> is the privacy notice.
>>
>> See the PR here for implementation details:
>> https://github.com/apache/cordova-cli/pull/247
>>
>> Omar Mefire,
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Omar Mefire <om...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have recently started working on the telemetry inclusion into Cordova
>>> and would like to request help from Apache Legal with drafting the privacy
>>> notice.
>>>
>>> Here is the detailed telemetry proposal:
>>> - https://github.com/cordova/cordova-discuss/pull/43
>>> - https://github.com/cordova/cordova-discuss/pull/43/files
>>>
>>> Omar Mefire,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Parashuram <n....@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree that there should be an opt-out method.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Parashuram
>>>> http://nparashuram.com
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Tommy Williams <to...@devgeeks.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "From my non-lawyer point of view, what's important is to make sure
>>>>> users are informed of what's happening, and can opt out of it.”
>>>>>
>>>>> This x 1000
>>>>>
>>>>> As a staunch privacy advocate, I would be very uncomfortable
>>>>> collecting data without allowing users to opt out.
>>>>>
>>>>> - tommy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3 November 2015 at 09:08:54, Parashuram (n.parashuram@gmail.com)
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> David,
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you happen to have links to discussions of threads in the Flex
>>>>> or CloudStack projects where this is discussed ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we should atleast have a privacy policy, and let users opt out
>>>>> of collecting data. The main purpose of this data is to understand the
>>>>> places where users experience most errors, or the commands that are most
>>>>> unused in our Cordova tooling. Cordova has a NodeJS based command line
>>>>> interface and this is where the data would be collected. We have not yet
>>>>> decided on where this data is stored or who controls it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Before we looked into those questions, I first wanted to check if it
>>>>> was even ok for us to collect this information. Now that I understand that
>>>>> Apache does not have policies against collecting data, I think that it
>>>>> would make sense for Cordova committers to get back and answer the
>>>>> questions like
>>>>> - where the data lives - I am guessing this would be some Apache server
>>>>> - who can access this data - I think at the minimum, the apache
>>>>> committers and PMC would be able to access the data. We should discuss this
>>>>> in the community and see if it makes sense to let everyone be able to read
>>>>> this data, since this is aggregated and anonymous anyway.
>>>>> - Who controls the data - this should be the committers and the PMC,
>>>>> but will also be discussed in the community.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Parashuram
>>>>> http://nparashuram.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:36 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Flex folks connect some (very limited) telemetry.
>>>>>> The CloudStack folks are discussing it and working on it.
>>>>>> But I am unaware of any data collection policies from a foundation
>>>>>> perspective
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My personal questions would be:
>>>>>> * Where does the data live / how is it collected
>>>>>> * Who has access to it
>>>>>> * Who controls the data
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --David
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Parashuram N <
>>>>>> panarasi@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The Apache Cordova project currently has a command line interface
>>>>>> that our
>>>>>> > users use to create and developer multi-platform mobile
>>>>>> applications. The
>>>>>> > Apache Cordova community has been working on many features to make
>>>>>> the user
>>>>>> > experience better. Currently however, we have no way of knowing
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> > features we implement are used by users and which are not. We also
>>>>>> do not
>>>>>> > have good data about the typical commands that fail or the
>>>>>> situations under
>>>>>> > which they fail.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > To make better informed decisions, one proposal that the community
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> > discussing was about adding some sort of telemetry that reports
>>>>>> back data.
>>>>>> > This data would totally anonymous, aggregated and only used for
>>>>>> data driven
>>>>>> > decision making when deciding on implementing new features. I
>>>>>> wanted to
>>>>>> > understand if there are any Apache policies around telemetry. I am
>>>>>> not aware
>>>>>> > of other projects that collect telemetry, and wanted some guidance
>>>>>> on how to
>>>>>> > approach the problem.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > It would be great if you could point us to resources, or help us
>>>>>> understand
>>>>>> > best practices on collecting telemetry data for an Apache project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: Collecting Telemetry data for Apache Cordova project

Posted by Omar Mefire <om...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Alex,
I'll use this and do something similar for Apache Cordova and submit it for
review.

Omar Mefire,


On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:

> This is not an official answer, but back in 2013, Apache Flex wanted to
> track a little bit of information about our user's use of our Installer.
> We ended up with a footer (that isn't hidden by scrollbars) in our UI with
> the words:
> "Anonymous usage statistics will be collected in accordance with our
> privacy policy."  And when you click on the words, it takes you to this
> privacy policy page [1].
>
> Maybe you can use something like this.
>
> HTH,
> -Alex
>
> [1] http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html
>
>
> From: Omar Mefire <om...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "legal-discuss@apache.org" <le...@apache.org>
> Date: Monday, May 9, 2016 at 10:46 AM
> To: "private@cordova.apache.org" <pr...@cordova.apache.org>, "
> legal-discuss@apache.org" <le...@apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Collecting Telemetry data for Apache Cordova project
>
> ping ...
> Any updates regarding this ?
>
> The development of this feature is almost complete and the missing part is
> the privacy notice.
>
> See the PR here for implementation details:
> https://github.com/apache/cordova-cli/pull/247
>
> Omar Mefire,
>
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Omar Mefire <om...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have recently started working on the telemetry inclusion into Cordova
>> and would like to request help from Apache Legal with drafting the privacy
>> notice.
>>
>> Here is the detailed telemetry proposal:
>> - https://github.com/cordova/cordova-discuss/pull/43
>> - https://github.com/cordova/cordova-discuss/pull/43/files
>>
>> Omar Mefire,
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Parashuram <n....@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree that there should be an opt-out method.
>>>
>>>
>>> Parashuram
>>> http://nparashuram.com
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Tommy Williams <to...@devgeeks.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "From my non-lawyer point of view, what's important is to make sure
>>>> users are informed of what's happening, and can opt out of it.”
>>>>
>>>> This x 1000
>>>>
>>>> As a staunch privacy advocate, I would be very uncomfortable collecting
>>>> data without allowing users to opt out.
>>>>
>>>> - tommy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3 November 2015 at 09:08:54, Parashuram (n.parashuram@gmail.com)
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> David,
>>>>
>>>> Would you happen to have links to discussions of threads in the Flex or
>>>> CloudStack projects where this is discussed ?
>>>>
>>>> I think we should atleast have a privacy policy, and let users opt out
>>>> of collecting data. The main purpose of this data is to understand the
>>>> places where users experience most errors, or the commands that are most
>>>> unused in our Cordova tooling. Cordova has a NodeJS based command line
>>>> interface and this is where the data would be collected. We have not yet
>>>> decided on where this data is stored or who controls it.
>>>>
>>>> Before we looked into those questions, I first wanted to check if it
>>>> was even ok for us to collect this information. Now that I understand that
>>>> Apache does not have policies against collecting data, I think that it
>>>> would make sense for Cordova committers to get back and answer the
>>>> questions like
>>>> - where the data lives - I am guessing this would be some Apache server
>>>> - who can access this data - I think at the minimum, the apache
>>>> committers and PMC would be able to access the data. We should discuss this
>>>> in the community and see if it makes sense to let everyone be able to read
>>>> this data, since this is aggregated and anonymous anyway.
>>>> - Who controls the data - this should be the committers and the PMC,
>>>> but will also be discussed in the community.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Parashuram
>>>> http://nparashuram.com
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:36 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Flex folks connect some (very limited) telemetry.
>>>>> The CloudStack folks are discussing it and working on it.
>>>>> But I am unaware of any data collection policies from a foundation
>>>>> perspective
>>>>>
>>>>> My personal questions would be:
>>>>> * Where does the data live / how is it collected
>>>>> * Who has access to it
>>>>> * Who controls the data
>>>>>
>>>>> --David
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The Apache Cordova project currently has a command line interface
>>>>> that our
>>>>> > users use to create and developer multi-platform mobile
>>>>> applications. The
>>>>> > Apache Cordova community has been working on many features to make
>>>>> the user
>>>>> > experience better. Currently however, we have no way of knowing which
>>>>> > features we implement are used by users and which are not. We also
>>>>> do not
>>>>> > have good data about the typical commands that fail or the
>>>>> situations under
>>>>> > which they fail.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > To make better informed decisions, one proposal that the community
>>>>> was
>>>>> > discussing was about adding some sort of telemetry that reports back
>>>>> data.
>>>>> > This data would totally anonymous, aggregated and only used for data
>>>>> driven
>>>>> > decision making when deciding on implementing new features. I wanted
>>>>> to
>>>>> > understand if there are any Apache policies around telemetry. I am
>>>>> not aware
>>>>> > of other projects that collect telemetry, and wanted some guidance
>>>>> on how to
>>>>> > approach the problem.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It would be great if you could point us to resources, or help us
>>>>> understand
>>>>> > best practices on collecting telemetry data for an Apache project.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: Collecting Telemetry data for Apache Cordova project

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
This is not an official answer, but back in 2013, Apache Flex wanted to track a little bit of information about our user's use of our Installer.  We ended up with a footer (that isn't hidden by scrollbars) in our UI with the words:
"Anonymous usage statistics will be collected in accordance with our privacy policy."  And when you click on the words, it takes you to this privacy policy page [1].

Maybe you can use something like this.

HTH,
-Alex

[1] http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html


From: Omar Mefire <om...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: "legal-discuss@apache.org<ma...@apache.org>" <le...@apache.org>>
Date: Monday, May 9, 2016 at 10:46 AM
To: "private@cordova.apache.org<ma...@cordova.apache.org>" <pr...@cordova.apache.org>>, "legal-discuss@apache.org<ma...@apache.org>" <le...@apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Collecting Telemetry data for Apache Cordova project

ping ...
Any updates regarding this ?

The development of this feature is almost complete and the missing part is the privacy notice.

See the PR here for implementation details: https://github.com/apache/cordova-cli/pull/247

Omar Mefire,


On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Omar Mefire <om...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have recently started working on the telemetry inclusion into Cordova and would like to request help from Apache Legal with drafting the privacy notice.

Here is the detailed telemetry proposal:
- https://github.com/cordova/cordova-discuss/pull/43
- https://github.com/cordova/cordova-discuss/pull/43/files

Omar Mefire,

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Parashuram <n....@gmail.com>> wrote:
I agree that there should be an opt-out method.


Parashuram
http://nparashuram.com

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Tommy Williams <to...@devgeeks.org>> wrote:
"From my non-lawyer point of view, what's important is to make sure
users are informed of what's happening, and can opt out of it.”

This x 1000

As a staunch privacy advocate, I would be very uncomfortable collecting data without allowing users to opt out.

- tommy



On 3 November 2015 at 09:08:54, Parashuram (n.parashuram@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>) wrote:

David,

Would you happen to have links to discussions of threads in the Flex or CloudStack projects where this is discussed ?

I think we should atleast have a privacy policy, and let users opt out of collecting data. The main purpose of this data is to understand the places where users experience most errors, or the commands that are most unused in our Cordova tooling. Cordova has a NodeJS based command line interface and this is where the data would be collected. We have not yet decided on where this data is stored or who controls it.

Before we looked into those questions, I first wanted to check if it was even ok for us to collect this information. Now that I understand that Apache does not have policies against collecting data, I think that it would make sense for Cordova committers to get back and answer the questions like
- where the data lives - I am guessing this would be some Apache server
- who can access this data - I think at the minimum, the apache committers and PMC would be able to access the data. We should discuss this in the community and see if it makes sense to let everyone be able to read this data, since this is aggregated and anonymous anyway.
- Who controls the data - this should be the committers and the PMC, but will also be discussed in the community.


Parashuram
http://nparashuram.com

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:36 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>> wrote:
The Flex folks connect some (very limited) telemetry.
The CloudStack folks are discussing it and working on it.
But I am unaware of any data collection policies from a foundation perspective

My personal questions would be:
* Where does the data live / how is it collected
* Who has access to it
* Who controls the data

--David

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The Apache Cordova project currently has a command line interface that our
> users use to create and developer multi-platform mobile applications. The
> Apache Cordova community has been working on many features to make the user
> experience better. Currently however, we have no way of knowing which
> features we implement are used by users and which are not. We also do not
> have good data about the typical commands that fail or the situations under
> which they fail.
>
> To make better informed decisions, one proposal that the community was
> discussing was about adding some sort of telemetry that reports back data.
> This data would totally anonymous, aggregated and only used for data driven
> decision making when deciding on implementing new features. I wanted to
> understand if there are any Apache policies around telemetry. I am not aware
> of other projects that collect telemetry, and wanted some guidance on how to
> approach the problem.
>
> It would be great if you could point us to resources, or help us understand
> best practices on collecting telemetry data for an Apache project.





Re: Collecting Telemetry data for Apache Cordova project

Posted by Omar Mefire <om...@gmail.com>.
ping ...
Any updates regarding this ?

The development of this feature is almost complete and the missing part is
the privacy notice.

See the PR here for implementation details:
https://github.com/apache/cordova-cli/pull/247

Omar Mefire,


On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Omar Mefire <om...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have recently started working on the telemetry inclusion into Cordova
> and would like to request help from Apache Legal with drafting the privacy
> notice.
>
> Here is the detailed telemetry proposal:
> - https://github.com/cordova/cordova-discuss/pull/43
> - https://github.com/cordova/cordova-discuss/pull/43/files
>
> Omar Mefire,
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Parashuram <n....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree that there should be an opt-out method.
>>
>>
>> Parashuram
>> http://nparashuram.com
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Tommy Williams <to...@devgeeks.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "From my non-lawyer point of view, what's important is to make sure
>>> users are informed of what's happening, and can opt out of it.”
>>>
>>> This x 1000
>>>
>>> As a staunch privacy advocate, I would be very uncomfortable collecting
>>> data without allowing users to opt out.
>>>
>>> - tommy
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3 November 2015 at 09:08:54, Parashuram (n.parashuram@gmail.com)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> Would you happen to have links to discussions of threads in the Flex or
>>> CloudStack projects where this is discussed ?
>>>
>>> I think we should atleast have a privacy policy, and let users opt out
>>> of collecting data. The main purpose of this data is to understand the
>>> places where users experience most errors, or the commands that are most
>>> unused in our Cordova tooling. Cordova has a NodeJS based command line
>>> interface and this is where the data would be collected. We have not yet
>>> decided on where this data is stored or who controls it.
>>>
>>> Before we looked into those questions, I first wanted to check if it was
>>> even ok for us to collect this information. Now that I understand that
>>> Apache does not have policies against collecting data, I think that it
>>> would make sense for Cordova committers to get back and answer the
>>> questions like
>>> - where the data lives - I am guessing this would be some Apache server
>>> - who can access this data - I think at the minimum, the apache
>>> committers and PMC would be able to access the data. We should discuss this
>>> in the community and see if it makes sense to let everyone be able to read
>>> this data, since this is aggregated and anonymous anyway.
>>> - Who controls the data - this should be the committers and the PMC, but
>>> will also be discussed in the community.
>>>
>>>
>>> Parashuram
>>> http://nparashuram.com
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:36 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Flex folks connect some (very limited) telemetry.
>>>> The CloudStack folks are discussing it and working on it.
>>>> But I am unaware of any data collection policies from a foundation
>>>> perspective
>>>>
>>>> My personal questions would be:
>>>> * Where does the data live / how is it collected
>>>> * Who has access to it
>>>> * Who controls the data
>>>>
>>>> --David
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Parashuram N <pa...@microsoft.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> >
>>>> > The Apache Cordova project currently has a command line interface
>>>> that our
>>>> > users use to create and developer multi-platform mobile applications.
>>>> The
>>>> > Apache Cordova community has been working on many features to make
>>>> the user
>>>> > experience better. Currently however, we have no way of knowing which
>>>> > features we implement are used by users and which are not. We also do
>>>> not
>>>> > have good data about the typical commands that fail or the situations
>>>> under
>>>> > which they fail.
>>>> >
>>>> > To make better informed decisions, one proposal that the community was
>>>> > discussing was about adding some sort of telemetry that reports back
>>>> data.
>>>> > This data would totally anonymous, aggregated and only used for data
>>>> driven
>>>> > decision making when deciding on implementing new features. I wanted
>>>> to
>>>> > understand if there are any Apache policies around telemetry. I am
>>>> not aware
>>>> > of other projects that collect telemetry, and wanted some guidance on
>>>> how to
>>>> > approach the problem.
>>>> >
>>>> > It would be great if you could point us to resources, or help us
>>>> understand
>>>> > best practices on collecting telemetry data for an Apache project.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>