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Posted to user@openmeetings.apache.org by Ali Alhaidary <al...@the5stars.org> on 2020/10/04 14:18:16 UTC
odd case or normal?
the following scenario is almost always happening:
1. the user enters the room
2. connection is not established (fails).
3. the user turns his mic off.
4. wait for few seconds.
5 the user turns his mic on.
6. connection to media server is established and keeps on even if the
session went for hours.
Looking at log files, I could not locate any ERROR or java exception or
WAR that I assume is related to this case.
Any idea of what is happening?
Re: odd case or normal?
Posted by Denis Noctor <de...@gmail.com>.
Will check this out and report back tomorrow. Thanks Maxim for taking the time and effort to get back to this issue. Really much appreciated.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 5, 2020, at 2:21 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Here
> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-server/src/main/assembly/scripts/openmeetings.service#L32
>
> you can see 2 options: -Xms1G -Xmx4G
> -Xms1G sets initially allocated memory (1GB in this case)
> -Xmx4G sets maximum amount of memory this java process can use
>
> so if you have something like -Xms8G -Xmx8G in your startup script this might lead to the case there all system memory will be taken
>
>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 at 13:32, Denis Noctor <de...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi there. I needed to make a clean install (OM 5 M4) before recording all changes and so on... but agree this might be a java process issue. Will set up another clean AWS instance setup with 5.0.1 most recent snapshot tomorrow, compare with current installation and report back tomorrow. Apart from Tomcat4... the only major installations changes I have noticed (not including improved UI and Android / IOS) improvements / is the MySQL-connector-Java 8.0.19 to 8.0.20 and “chown -R nobody:nogroup /opt/open501”... I haven’t used “nogroup” in previous installations / upgrades. Hope this makes sense. None of my current users use Mac / Safari etc. Talk soon. All the best, Denis.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 5, 2020, at 12:45 AM, Ali Alhaidary <al...@the5stars.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> attached an updated (by me) copy of tomcat4, however, memory is not consumed if OM started after a reboot (2G max for 3 classes, 5 students each, audio only), but if multiple stop and start is done, all memory is consumed.
>>>
>>>> On 10/5/20 3:27 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>> 98% of RAM might be an issue
>>>> was the memory consumed by java process?
>>>> What are the `-Xmx` and `-Xms` parameters for OM?
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 at 01:29, Denis Noctor <de...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I experienced this after upgrading to a 5.0.1 snapshot and was about to follow up a response to Maxim. Not at a computer at the moment but I experienced exactly the same. I am using Ubuntu 18.04 on AWS with 8 gigs ram. When SSH’ing to my server (with only one user logged in (me) I noticed RAM usage was 98%...
>>>>>
>>>>> I downgraded to OM 5 M4 and everything is fine again (but lack the advantages of the snapshot upgrade)... RAM usage dropped a lot also... a lot!
>>>>>
>>>>> Will take some time to compare tomcat3 and tomcat4 on startup, folder permissions and differences between OM 5 M4 and recent snapshot.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Denis.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Oct 4, 2020, at 9:18 AM, Ali Alhaidary <al...@the5stars.org> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > the following scenario is almost always happening:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 1. the user enters the room
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 2. connection is not established (fails).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 3. the user turns his mic off.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 4. wait for few seconds.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 5 the user turns his mic on.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 6. connection to media server is established and keeps on even if the session went for hours.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Looking at log files, I could not locate any ERROR or java exception or WAR that I assume is related to this case.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Any idea of what is happening?
>>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Maxim
>>> <tomcat4>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
Re: odd case or normal?
Posted by Denis Noctor <de...@gmail.com>.
Thanks again Maxim. Will check this out in the morning. Apologies for causing upset... but curious also to know If other users expressed similar concerns on “upgrade”.... rather than a “fresh install”. Talk soon. All the best, Denis.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 5, 2020, at 2:21 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Here
> https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-server/src/main/assembly/scripts/openmeetings.service#L32
>
> you can see 2 options: -Xms1G -Xmx4G
> -Xms1G sets initially allocated memory (1GB in this case)
> -Xmx4G sets maximum amount of memory this java process can use
>
> so if you have something like -Xms8G -Xmx8G in your startup script this might lead to the case there all system memory will be taken
>
>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 at 13:32, Denis Noctor <de...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi there. I needed to make a clean install (OM 5 M4) before recording all changes and so on... but agree this might be a java process issue. Will set up another clean AWS instance setup with 5.0.1 most recent snapshot tomorrow, compare with current installation and report back tomorrow. Apart from Tomcat4... the only major installations changes I have noticed (not including improved UI and Android / IOS) improvements / is the MySQL-connector-Java 8.0.19 to 8.0.20 and “chown -R nobody:nogroup /opt/open501”... I haven’t used “nogroup” in previous installations / upgrades. Hope this makes sense. None of my current users use Mac / Safari etc. Talk soon. All the best, Denis.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 5, 2020, at 12:45 AM, Ali Alhaidary <al...@the5stars.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> attached an updated (by me) copy of tomcat4, however, memory is not consumed if OM started after a reboot (2G max for 3 classes, 5 students each, audio only), but if multiple stop and start is done, all memory is consumed.
>>>
>>>> On 10/5/20 3:27 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>> 98% of RAM might be an issue
>>>> was the memory consumed by java process?
>>>> What are the `-Xmx` and `-Xms` parameters for OM?
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 at 01:29, Denis Noctor <de...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I experienced this after upgrading to a 5.0.1 snapshot and was about to follow up a response to Maxim. Not at a computer at the moment but I experienced exactly the same. I am using Ubuntu 18.04 on AWS with 8 gigs ram. When SSH’ing to my server (with only one user logged in (me) I noticed RAM usage was 98%...
>>>>>
>>>>> I downgraded to OM 5 M4 and everything is fine again (but lack the advantages of the snapshot upgrade)... RAM usage dropped a lot also... a lot!
>>>>>
>>>>> Will take some time to compare tomcat3 and tomcat4 on startup, folder permissions and differences between OM 5 M4 and recent snapshot.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Denis.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Oct 4, 2020, at 9:18 AM, Ali Alhaidary <al...@the5stars.org> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > the following scenario is almost always happening:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 1. the user enters the room
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 2. connection is not established (fails).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 3. the user turns his mic off.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 4. wait for few seconds.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 5 the user turns his mic on.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 6. connection to media server is established and keeps on even if the session went for hours.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Looking at log files, I could not locate any ERROR or java exception or WAR that I assume is related to this case.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Any idea of what is happening?
>>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Maxim
>>> <tomcat4>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
Re: odd case or normal?
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Here
https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-server/src/main/assembly/scripts/openmeetings.service#L32
you can see 2 options: -Xms1G -Xmx4G
-Xms1G sets initially allocated memory (1GB in this case)
-Xmx4G sets maximum amount of memory this java process can use
so if you have something like -Xms8G -Xmx8G in your startup script this
might lead to the case there all system memory will be taken
On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 at 13:32, Denis Noctor <de...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there. I needed to make a clean install (OM 5 M4) before recording all
> changes and so on... but agree this might be a java process issue. Will set
> up another clean AWS instance setup with 5.0.1 most recent snapshot
> tomorrow, compare with current installation and report back tomorrow. Apart
> from Tomcat4... the only major installations changes I have noticed (not
> including improved UI and Android / IOS) improvements / is the
> MySQL-connector-Java 8.0.19 to 8.0.20 and “chown -R nobody:nogroup
> /opt/open501”... I haven’t used “nogroup” in previous installations /
> upgrades. Hope this makes sense. None of my current users use Mac / Safari
> etc. Talk soon. All the best, Denis.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 5, 2020, at 12:45 AM, Ali Alhaidary <al...@the5stars.org>
> wrote:
>
> attached an updated (by me) copy of tomcat4, however, memory is not
> consumed if OM started after a reboot (2G max for 3 classes, 5 students
> each, audio only), but if multiple stop and start is done, all memory is
> consumed.
> On 10/5/20 3:27 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>
> 98% of RAM might be an issue
> was the memory consumed by java process?
> What are the `-Xmx` and `-Xms` parameters for OM?
>
> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 at 01:29, Denis Noctor <de...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I experienced this after upgrading to a 5.0.1 snapshot and was about to
>> follow up a response to Maxim. Not at a computer at the moment but I
>> experienced exactly the same. I am using Ubuntu 18.04 on AWS with 8 gigs
>> ram. When SSH’ing to my server (with only one user logged in (me) I noticed
>> RAM usage was 98%...
>>
>> I downgraded to OM 5 M4 and everything is fine again (but lack the
>> advantages of the snapshot upgrade)... RAM usage dropped a lot also... a
>> lot!
>>
>> Will take some time to compare tomcat3 and tomcat4 on startup, folder
>> permissions and differences between OM 5 M4 and recent snapshot.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Denis.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Oct 4, 2020, at 9:18 AM, Ali Alhaidary <al...@the5stars.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > the following scenario is almost always happening:
>> >
>> > 1. the user enters the room
>> >
>> > 2. connection is not established (fails).
>> >
>> > 3. the user turns his mic off.
>> >
>> > 4. wait for few seconds.
>> >
>> > 5 the user turns his mic on.
>> >
>> > 6. connection to media server is established and keeps on even if the
>> session went for hours.
>> >
>> > Looking at log files, I could not locate any ERROR or java exception or
>> WAR that I assume is related to this case.
>> >
>> > Any idea of what is happening?
>> >
>>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
> <tomcat4>
>
>
--
Best regards,
Maxim
Re: odd case or normal?
Posted by Denis Noctor <de...@gmail.com>.
Hi there. I needed to make a clean install (OM 5 M4) before recording all changes and so on... but agree this might be a java process issue. Will set up another clean AWS instance setup with 5.0.1 most recent snapshot tomorrow, compare with current installation and report back tomorrow. Apart from Tomcat4... the only major installations changes I have noticed (not including improved UI and Android / IOS) improvements / is the MySQL-connector-Java 8.0.19 to 8.0.20 and “chown -R nobody:nogroup /opt/open501”... I haven’t used “nogroup” in previous installations / upgrades. Hope this makes sense. None of my current users use Mac / Safari etc. Talk soon. All the best, Denis.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 5, 2020, at 12:45 AM, Ali Alhaidary <al...@the5stars.org> wrote:
>
> attached an updated (by me) copy of tomcat4, however, memory is not consumed if OM started after a reboot (2G max for 3 classes, 5 students each, audio only), but if multiple stop and start is done, all memory is consumed.
>
>> On 10/5/20 3:27 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>> 98% of RAM might be an issue
>> was the memory consumed by java process?
>> What are the `-Xmx` and `-Xms` parameters for OM?
>>
>>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 at 01:29, Denis Noctor <de...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I experienced this after upgrading to a 5.0.1 snapshot and was about to follow up a response to Maxim. Not at a computer at the moment but I experienced exactly the same. I am using Ubuntu 18.04 on AWS with 8 gigs ram. When SSH’ing to my server (with only one user logged in (me) I noticed RAM usage was 98%...
>>>
>>> I downgraded to OM 5 M4 and everything is fine again (but lack the advantages of the snapshot upgrade)... RAM usage dropped a lot also... a lot!
>>>
>>> Will take some time to compare tomcat3 and tomcat4 on startup, folder permissions and differences between OM 5 M4 and recent snapshot.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Denis.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Oct 4, 2020, at 9:18 AM, Ali Alhaidary <al...@the5stars.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > the following scenario is almost always happening:
>>> >
>>> > 1. the user enters the room
>>> >
>>> > 2. connection is not established (fails).
>>> >
>>> > 3. the user turns his mic off.
>>> >
>>> > 4. wait for few seconds.
>>> >
>>> > 5 the user turns his mic on.
>>> >
>>> > 6. connection to media server is established and keeps on even if the session went for hours.
>>> >
>>> > Looking at log files, I could not locate any ERROR or java exception or WAR that I assume is related to this case.
>>> >
>>> > Any idea of what is happening?
>>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
> <tomcat4>
Re: odd case or normal?
Posted by Ali Alhaidary <al...@the5stars.org>.
attached an updated (by me) copy of tomcat4, however, memory is not
consumed if OM started after a reboot (2G max for 3 classes, 5 students
each, audio only), but if multiple stop and start is done, all memory is
consumed.
On 10/5/20 3:27 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> 98% of RAM might be an issue
> was the memory consumed by java process?
> What are the `-Xmx` and `-Xms` parameters for OM?
>
> On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 at 01:29, Denis Noctor <denisnoctor@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I experienced this after upgrading to a 5.0.1 snapshot and was
> about to follow up a response to Maxim. Not at a computer at the
> moment but I experienced exactly the same. I am using Ubuntu
> 18.04 on AWS with 8 gigs ram. When SSH’ing to my server (with only
> one user logged in (me) I noticed RAM usage was 98%...
>
> I downgraded to OM 5 M4 and everything is fine again (but lack the
> advantages of the snapshot upgrade)... RAM usage dropped a lot
> also... a lot!
>
> Will take some time to compare tomcat3 and tomcat4 on startup,
> folder permissions and differences between OM 5 M4 and recent
> snapshot.
>
> All the best,
>
> Denis.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 4, 2020, at 9:18 AM, Ali Alhaidary
> <ali.alhaidary@the5stars.org <ma...@the5stars.org>>
> wrote:
> >
> > the following scenario is almost always happening:
> >
> > 1. the user enters the room
> >
> > 2. connection is not established (fails).
> >
> > 3. the user turns his mic off.
> >
> > 4. wait for few seconds.
> >
> > 5 the user turns his mic on.
> >
> > 6. connection to media server is established and keeps on even
> if the session went for hours.
> >
> > Looking at log files, I could not locate any ERROR or java
> exception or WAR that I assume is related to this case.
> >
> > Any idea of what is happening?
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
Re: odd case or normal?
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
98% of RAM might be an issue
was the memory consumed by java process?
What are the `-Xmx` and `-Xms` parameters for OM?
On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 at 01:29, Denis Noctor <de...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I experienced this after upgrading to a 5.0.1 snapshot and was about to
> follow up a response to Maxim. Not at a computer at the moment but I
> experienced exactly the same. I am using Ubuntu 18.04 on AWS with 8 gigs
> ram. When SSH’ing to my server (with only one user logged in (me) I noticed
> RAM usage was 98%...
>
> I downgraded to OM 5 M4 and everything is fine again (but lack the
> advantages of the snapshot upgrade)... RAM usage dropped a lot also... a
> lot!
>
> Will take some time to compare tomcat3 and tomcat4 on startup, folder
> permissions and differences between OM 5 M4 and recent snapshot.
>
> All the best,
>
> Denis.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 4, 2020, at 9:18 AM, Ali Alhaidary <al...@the5stars.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > the following scenario is almost always happening:
> >
> > 1. the user enters the room
> >
> > 2. connection is not established (fails).
> >
> > 3. the user turns his mic off.
> >
> > 4. wait for few seconds.
> >
> > 5 the user turns his mic on.
> >
> > 6. connection to media server is established and keeps on even if the
> session went for hours.
> >
> > Looking at log files, I could not locate any ERROR or java exception or
> WAR that I assume is related to this case.
> >
> > Any idea of what is happening?
> >
>
--
Best regards,
Maxim
Re: odd case or normal?
Posted by Denis Noctor <de...@gmail.com>.
I experienced this after upgrading to a 5.0.1 snapshot and was about to follow up a response to Maxim. Not at a computer at the moment but I experienced exactly the same. I am using Ubuntu 18.04 on AWS with 8 gigs ram. When SSH’ing to my server (with only one user logged in (me) I noticed RAM usage was 98%...
I downgraded to OM 5 M4 and everything is fine again (but lack the advantages of the snapshot upgrade)... RAM usage dropped a lot also... a lot!
Will take some time to compare tomcat3 and tomcat4 on startup, folder permissions and differences between OM 5 M4 and recent snapshot.
All the best,
Denis.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 4, 2020, at 9:18 AM, Ali Alhaidary <al...@the5stars.org> wrote:
>
> the following scenario is almost always happening:
>
> 1. the user enters the room
>
> 2. connection is not established (fails).
>
> 3. the user turns his mic off.
>
> 4. wait for few seconds.
>
> 5 the user turns his mic on.
>
> 6. connection to media server is established and keeps on even if the session went for hours.
>
> Looking at log files, I could not locate any ERROR or java exception or WAR that I assume is related to this case.
>
> Any idea of what is happening?
>